Quote: beachbumbabs...and that's the first thing we all look at on men; "ring check"
How valid a test is it, however. Some women wear wedding rings "to keep the flies off" but are not in fact married, yet nowadays its often used as an attractant. A woman may go into a club with a wedding ring on because it increases the action since its viewed as an indication of a shorter term viewpoint.
Women judge men by ring, but also by age, physique, apparent wealth (clothes styling or jewelry).
Quote: FleaStiffHow valid a test is it, however. Some women wear wedding rings "to keep the flies off" but are not in fact married, yet nowadays its often used as an attractant. A woman may go into a club with a wedding ring on because it increases the action since its viewed as an indication of a shorter term viewpoint.
Women judge men by ring, but also by age, physique, apparent wealth (clothes styling or jewelry).
I would agree with everything you said here, Flea; there's lots more that could be said on the subject. Women who are divorced, widowed, or even never married often do wear a ring. I think it's interesting and amusing you said "shorter term viewpoint"; well phrased. But I submit that women do better indicate their availability, at least by percentage, with the wearing or not wearing of a ring, if by availability we're talking frame of mind. On men, it's almost irrelevant.
70% of women are married.
90% of married women wear a ring.
30% of unmarried women wear a ring.
You see a random woman wearing a ring. What is the probability she is married?
Quote: WizardLet's pause for a math problem. Let's say:
70% of women are married.
90% of married women wear a ring.
30% of unmarried women wear a ring.
You see a random woman wearing a ring. What is the probability she is married?
Where'd I go wrong? Check my spoiler:
(Married women * % of Married women who wear a ring) less (Unmarried women * percentage of unmarried women who wear a ring) = Percentage of women wearing a ring who are also married.
Quote: WizardLet's pause for a math problem. Let's say:
70% of women are married.
90% of married women wear a ring.
30% of unmarried women wear a ring.
You see a random woman wearing a ring. What is the probability she is married?
A classic example of Bayesian inference:
Let A = a woman is married
Let B = a woman is wearing a ring
Givens:
p(A) = 0.7
p(B|A) = 0.9
p(B|!A) = 0.3
From the last given, we can compute the total probability of a woman wearing a ring:
P(B) = P(B|A)*P(A) + P(B|!A)*P(!A) = 0.9*0.7 + 0.3*(1-0.7) = 0.72.
Okay, now we can apply Bayes' Theorem:
p(A|B) = P(B|A)*P(A)/P(B)
The conditional probability that the ring-wearing woman is married = the conditional probability that a married woman wears a ring * the unconditional probability of a woman being married / the unconditional probability of a woman wearing a ring.
=0.9 * 0.7 / 0.72
=0.875
So if you see a woman wearing a ring, there's an 87.5% chance she's married.
(30% * 30%)(100) = 9 of them are not married and wearing rings.
Total # of women in the room wearing rings = 63 + 9 = 72
Therefore, if you meet one of the 72 women wearing rings then 63 of them will actually be married:
63/72 = 87.5% probability that if you meet a random woman in this room wearing a ring that she will actually be married.
Now outside the room it is a jungle out there, so all bets are off.
I shouldn't have taken that freaking IQ test. It has dropped severely since the last time I took it ten years ago. (168 to 144) I think I am letting that get to me...lol
Quote: FleaStiffHow valid a test is it, however. Some women wear wedding rings "to keep the flies off" but are not in fact married.
And when they eventually, during the course of normal conversation, tell YOU that they are not married, that they wear it to keep unwanted suitors at bay, well.... you then know you are not an unwanted suitor...... no better signal.....
Quote: FaceToss your BMI chart out the window (or put it in the toilet with the other stuff of similar...properties). Mine says I should be from 160 to 195. 160! I graduated HS at 188 and I was almost painfully trim. In the height of my coke use I was 172, and I looked disgusting. I now float between 208 and 215, depending on what phase of the hockey season I'm in. The chart says I'm "overweight" by 20 lbs, but I've never looked (or felt) better. Resting pulse still in the high 40s, BP still 6X over 10X... it's all good.
If you're healthy, that's all that matters.
Couldn't agree more. The charts say I should be between 136 and 184 as a 6'0" male. That is patently ridiculous. I'm currently overweight at about 225 but 200 would be a perfectly healthy weight for me. I was 190 in high school when I was in the best shape of my life. I'm just built a little thicker.
Not to mention that if you do any kind of weight training, you will weigh more, but it will be muscle, which is incredibly healthy.
Heart attack convinced me to drop some weight. Just under 200 now. Short term goal is 180. Dream goal is 165. That's what I weighed when paroled from USAF in 1966.
Don't believe chart numbers either. Just know that was my best fighting weight. Heart Doctor say all his patients swear afterwards to
quit smoking, watch diet, lose weight etc. Not one in 100 do and after a year back to same-old-same for the 99.
Not that I am that scared of dying. Just well, I was 28 and Josie 18 when we married. SWEET back then, but statistics against me now. LOL
Quote: beachbumbabsI think it's interesting and amusing you said "shorter term viewpoint"; well phrased. But I submit that women do better indicate their availability, at least by percentage, with the wearing or not wearing of a ring, if by availability we're talking frame of mind. On men, it's almost irrelevant.
Women have other ways of indicating frame of mind as well but a ring often indicates they want a man who is not put off his stride by their marital status. In most situations a woman wearing a ring is signalling "Keep Your Distance" though she does retain the ability to indicate on an individual basis that its merely a false flag and the light is green for the man to whom she is saying this. Its simply that in some clubs and restaurants a ring does not signal "Keep Your Distance" it signals to all: "We Have Tonight, Who Needs Tomorrow". The wearer is not interested if the man is "a good catch" but instead is more interested "if he is good in bed" since its presumed that she already has a good catch stashed somewhere else. This of course defeats the value of the flag since it has opposite meanings depending upon which port it is flown in. It is however easy for a woman to indicate "I'm serious, Lothario..Get Lost".
Irrelevant on men? I don't know. Many women actually take note of the ring but take greater note of the dollar value of the watch.
(FYI Bob - I think I am going to AC this weekend)
Quote: FleaStiffWomen have other ways of indicating frame of mind as well but a ring often indicates they want a man who is not put off his stride by their marital status. In most situations a woman wearing a ring is signalling "Keep Your Distance" though she does retain the ability to indicate on an individual basis that its merely a false flag and the light is green for the man to whom she is saying this. Its simply that in some clubs and restaurants a ring does not signal "Keep Your Distance" it signals to all: "We Have Tonight, Who Needs Tomorrow". The wearer is not interested if the man is "a good catch" but instead is more interested "if he is good in bed" since its presumed that she already has a good catch stashed somewhere else. This of course defeats the value of the flag since it has opposite meanings depending upon which port it is flown in. It is however easy for a woman to indicate "I'm serious, Lothario..Get Lost".
Irrelevant on men? I don't know. Many women actually take note of the ring but take greater note of the dollar value of the watch.
Flea,
You're such a romantic. :D
Yes. Its been a life-long burden.Quote: beachbumbabsFlea, You're such a romantic. :D
Quote: FleaStiffSome women wear wedding rings "to keep the flies off" but are not in fact married, yet nowadays its often used as an attractant. A woman may go into a club with a wedding ring on because it increases the action since its viewed as an indication of a shorter term viewpoint.).
The couple years I went to clubs, I never bothered to look for a ring. They either act interested or they didn't. If they act interested I wasn't thinking about a ring.
As for wedding rings. If they have one, its a challenge, if they don't have one they are sure things. I do sometimes wish I was single in Vegas but then I see all those coked out people whisping their way between clubs or all the single moms at the dog parks walking around with their babies under one arm and their Chihuahua under the other......
It used to be much easier way back when
Quote: BuzzardDoes anybody know when the term " the baby daddy" became part of the language ?
Probably the same time "Teen Mom" became a popular TV program?
Quote: TomspurThese BMI charts are bull****. There was another thread on here that made me stick in my digits to see what comes up. I weight 213 and I'm 6'1. I am muscular and pretty fit. This stupid thing says I'm at a 28.1 which means I'm overweight. I said f*** you and almost dumped the entire thing out the window. Luckily a colleague told me that you can throw work computers out the window because they "bill you".......The whole thing was a complete and utter loss :)
As for wedding rings. If they have one, its a challenge, if they don't have one they are sure things. I do sometimes wish I was single in Vegas but then I see all those coked out people whisping their way between clubs or all the single moms at the dog parks walking around with their babies under one arm and their Chihuahua under the other......
It used to be much easier way back when
Classic rant. Well played.
Quote: Tomspur
It used to be much easier way back when
Maybe, but probably not. Women never change, they present
one face to you, but it's not who they really are. They always
have an agenda, and by the time you find out what it is, it's
usually too late. Most of the time it's just not worth the
hassle.
Quote: HotBlondeMy plan is to lose 30.8 pounds from now till then but I'm guessing I'll lose 35.8 pounds by then
This will what, get you down to 225 again? Did you gain all of it back
or just part of it.
Quote: HotBlondeMy cousin is coming to Los Angeles 10 weeks from today and I decided to go on a strict weight loss program from now till then. My plan is to lose 30.8 pounds from now till then but I'm guessing I'll lose 35.8 pounds by then when I compare my expectations from what I expected to lose during the first 10 weeks of my challenge 2 years ago compared to what I actually lost in those first 10 weeks. I lost 16.2553529974148% more weight during those first 10 weeks then expected, which is why I expect to lose 30.8 pounds this time around but will likely lose 35.8 pounds. I'm curious to see my final result 10 weeks from now!
WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO START A NEW THREAD SO AS TO AVOID DOWNLOADING ALL THESE 272 UNNECESSARY PAGES EVERY TIME YOU ADD TO THIS OVERLY LONG THREAD?
Quote: FleaStiffWHY DO YOU REFUSE TO START A NEW THREAD SO AS TO AVOID DOWNLOADING ALL THESE 272 UNNECESSARY PAGES EVERY TIME YOU ADD TO THIS OVERLY LONG THREAD?
Why do you write in Caps?
Why do you have to download all 272 pages instead of jumping to the end?
Where is Jimmy Hoffa?
Quote: HotBlondeMy plan is to lose 30.8 pounds from now till ...
I wish you success and hope you'll post your progress.
Quote: HotBlondeMy cousin is coming to Los Angeles 10 weeks from today and I decided to go on a strict weight loss program from now till then. My plan is to lose 30.8 pounds from now till then but I'm guessing I'll lose 35.8 pounds by then when I compare my expectations from what I expected to lose during the first 10 weeks of my challenge 2 years ago compared to what I actually lost in those first 10 weeks. I lost 16.2553529974148% more weight during those first 10 weeks then expected, which is why I expect to lose 30.8 pounds this time around but will likely lose 35.8 pounds. I'm curious to see my final result 10 weeks from now!
If you have not put on much weight from your last challenge be prepared to not meet your goal. Yes you lose the most at the beginning of trying to lose weight but if your body isn't as large as it was and if you are used to working out and dieting it won't come as easily. Not saying without hard work and dedication that it won't happen just know that if you aren't meeting your self imposed quota don't get discouraged, I wish you the best of luck on your endeavor.
Thanks. I'm not sure I will weigh myself during the process. I think I may just do what I need to do and weigh myself at the end of the 10 weeks and see if I hit my goal.Quote: WizardI wish you success and hope you'll post your progress.
Thank you!Quote: TranscendI wish you the best of luck on your endeavor.
Quote: HotBlondeI lost 16.2553529974148% more weight!
Thank goodness you included 13 significant digits in this percentage or we wouldn't have been able to calculate it out on an atomic level.
LOLQuote: sodawaterThank goodness you included 13 significant digits in this percentage or we wouldn't have been able to calculate it out on an atomic level.
OMG that is so mean. They way your mind thinks is sick.........I LOVE IT! I was thiking the same thing.Quote: 1BBHey, we can't let juiciejennie steal all the limelight can we?
New thread needed HOT BRUNET CHALLENGE, Can DJtac score?
Use your imagination. She said a couple times she
had every intention of gaining it all back.
Quote: EvenBobNotice she won't tell us what her current weight is.
Use your imagination. She said a couple times she
had every intention of gaining it all back.
How many times have you gained it all back? I mean, it is common to yo-yo.
Please stop spreading lies about me. I never once said that. Get a life.Quote: EvenBobNotice she won't tell us what her current weight is.
Use your imagination. She said a couple times she
had every intention of gaining it all back.
Quote: 1BBHey, we can't let juiciejennie steal all the limelight can we?
what about luscious Lucy or whoever her 'friend' is?
Quote: HotBlondeI never once said that..
Yup, you did. At the very start of the challenge.
Ok, smarty pants, why don't you find it and paste the quote and tell us what page you found it on.Quote: EvenBobYup, you did. At the very start of the challenge.
Quote: EvenBobI think she can do it, losing weight is not that
hard. Its keeping it off that takes a miracle.
I know dozens of people that lost a good deal
of weight and all of them put it back on. Most
people can stay motivated for 6 or 8 months,
anything longer than that is tough.
Quote: HotBlondeOk, smarty pants, why don't you find it and paste the quote and tell us what page you found it on.
We've done this before, I'm not going thru
it again, I don't have time. And I really
don't care.
Quote: sodawaterlooks like "HotBlonde" has some very serious younger competition for attention-grabbing. I don't like her chances in this race.
Are you competing in the swimwear portion of the competition?