Hot Blonde Challenge
Hi Mike. Well I've gained weight since then as has been evidenced in the photos from this year's WoV Con event. But other than that I still live in Los Angeles, I'm still single, and trying to live a healthy life. My plans are to get back down to my weigh-in weight and possibly even lower than that as time permits.Quote: WizardHi HB, nice to see you back. I think we'd all be interested in what has happened since Oct 17, 2012. Not just your weight, but the whole enchilada of your life.
P.S. I miss my skinny arms!
Also, in my opinion, in that October 2012 end-of-the-challenge photo she looked too thin. A matter of taste, I suppose.
Edit: I was typing this as HB posted her own comments.
OMG. Thank you but I'm embarrassed by this picture cause I'm already a few drinks in at this point. Yikes.Quote: DocI have no idea what has gone on in HB's life or how her weight may have fluctuated since the challenge. On the other hand, I thought she was looking pretty good at WoVCon]I[ late last May.
Also, in my opinion, in that October 2012 end-of-the-challenge photo she looked too thin. A matter of taste, I suppose.
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Edit: I was typing this as HB posted her own comments.
You definitely had a fod bet. Any personal accomplishment bet should always be followed up with a time line. -EV otherwise. How is it going with the boobjob thing?.Quote: HotBlondeHi Mike. Well I've gained weight since then as has been evidenced in the photos from this year's WoV Con event. But other than that I still live in Los Angeles, I'm still single, and trying to live a healthy life. My plans are to get back down to my weigh-in weight and possibly even lower than that as time permits.
P.S. I miss my skinny arms!
Quote: HotBlondeI'm embarrassed by this picture ....
If you're serious, I'll delete it from my post (let me know), but you would then have to delete it from where you quoted me. I don't plan to delete it from the thread where it was originally posted -- it is part of the event documentation!
It's ok. I just look a little cross-eyed in that pic. It's all good though.Quote: DocIf you're serious, I'll delete it from my post (let me know), but you would then have to delete it from where you quoted me. I don't plan to delete it from the thread where it was originally posted -- it is part of the event documentation!
Quote: HotBlondeI just look a little cross-eyed in that pic.
Blame it on the photographer -- the picture is more out of focus than you were.
Quote: HotBlondeMy plans are to get back down to my weigh-in weight and possibly even lower than that as time permits.
Thanks for the update. Speaking for myself only, I don't think you need to get as low as the weigh-in weight. 10 pounds over whatever that weight was would a good target.
Thank you. And I say this with love but I've found this forum to not be the most positive place for me to spend my time. I've learned (the hard way) that "anything goes" on the internet and people feel they can say anything they want, including vicious and mean things. I love my friend Michael and I love Vegas and math and stuff like that but I won't be participating much on here any more. It's for my own peace of mind.Quote: SOOPOOIt is great to hear from HB! I hope to convince her to come to Vegas when I can next get there. HB knows she can always join me for a yummy meal! Even though HB didn't like the picture of herself, I'm betting the gentlemen on the forum found no faults! Anyway, I am also hoping that HB starts posting again on a variety of threads; I think she added a unique perspective. Welcome back, HB!
Being 5'8" I'm supposed to weigh between 122-164 pounds. I weighed in at 150.2 pounds. Gaining 10 pounds on top of that would put me very close to being overweight. So maybe 145-ish would be good. We'll have to wait and see.Quote: WizardThanks for the update. Speaking for myself only, I don't think you need to get as low as the weigh-in weight. 10 pounds over whatever that weight was would a good target.
Quote: HotBlondeI won't be participating much on here any more. It's for my own peace of mind.
Whether you visit/participate here in the future or not, there are a couple of things you might keep in mind:
Quote: DocI thought she was looking pretty good at WoVCon]I[ late last May. ... Also, in my opinion, in that October 2012 end-of-the-challenge photo she looked too thin.
Quote: SOOPOOEven though HB didn't like the picture of herself, I'm betting the gentlemen on the forum found no faults!
Quote: WizardI don't think you need to get as low as the weigh-in weight. 10 pounds over whatever that weight was would a good target.
Thinner/lighter isn't always better or healthier, particularly if taken to an extreme. Or at least it doesn't necessarily make guys think you look better.
Edit: Again, I was typing while HB was posting.
I beg to differ. Remember the survey that someone put up here in the forum asking which girl they were most attracted to? the picture with the 3 girls standing side by side? I could be wrong, and I often am, but most of the men on here picked the skinniest girl as being the most desirable. Extra points for whoever can dig up that thread.Quote: DocThinner/lighter isn't always better or healthier, particularly if taken to an extreme. Or at least it doesn't necessarily make guys think you look better.
Quote: HotBlondeBeing 5'8" I'm supposed to weigh between 122-164 pounds...
Toss your BMI chart out the window (or put it in the toilet with the other stuff of similar...properties). Mine says I should be from 160 to 195. 160! I graduated HS at 188 and I was almost painfully trim. In the height of my coke use I was 172, and I looked disgusting. I now float between 208 and 215, depending on what phase of the hockey season I'm in. The chart says I'm "overweight" by 20 lbs, but I've never looked (or felt) better. Resting pulse still in the high 40s, BP still 6X over 10X... it's all good.
If you're healthy, that's all that matters.
Agreed! I heard it said once that the only time it's bad to be overweight or obese is when it's causing issues. Otherwise there's no problem.Quote: FaceIf you're healthy, that's all that matters.
Quote: FaceToss your BMI chart out the window (or put it in the toilet with the other stuff of similar...properties). Mine says I should be from 160 to 195. 160! I graduated HS at 188 and I was almost painfully trim. In the height of my coke use I was 172, and I looked disgusting. I now float between 208 and 215, depending on what phase of the hockey season I'm in. The chart says I'm "overweight" by 20 lbs, but I've never looked (or felt) better. Resting pulse still in the high 40s, BP still 6X over 10X... it's all good.
If you're healthy, that's all that matters.
Agreed... I'm less concerned about my weight, and more about my time to run a mile and 10km.
My running times aren't great, though, but more I train, the weight comes off anyways, and helps to have less to push around the track. But did do a half marathon last weekend, so will be training to hit the Vegas Half in 2014.
Quote: FaceToss your BMI chart out the window (or put it in the toilet with the other stuff of similar...properties). Mine says I should be from 160 to 195. 160! I graduated HS at 188 and I was almost painfully trim. In the height of my coke use I was 172, and I looked disgusting. I now float between 208 and 215, depending on what phase of the hockey season I'm in. The chart says I'm "overweight" by 20 lbs, but I've never looked (or felt) better. Resting pulse still in the high 40s, BP still 6X over 10X... it's all good.
If you're healthy, that's all that matters.
Have you been checked for bradycardia?
You'll always be on my good side. Its been alleged in another thread that this forum is infested with bullies. Despite that, if there isn't a challenge at stake I think you'll find it not so hostile.
Quote: HotBlondeBeing 5'8" I'm supposed to weigh between 122-164 pounds. I weighed in at 150.2 pounds. Gaining 10 pounds on top of that would put me very close to being overweight. So maybe 145-ish would be good. We'll have to wait and see.
I don't know who sets those standards. My former doctor says I'm borderline overweight, and honestly think my weight is fine. I'm 5'11" and 170. Some have told me I should put on a few more pounds.
Quote: FaceToss your BMI chart out the window (or put it in the toilet with the other stuff of similar...properties). Mine says I should be from 160 to 195. 160! I graduated HS at 188 and I was almost painfully trim.
Quote: WizardMy former doctor says I'm borderline overweight, and honestly think my weight is fine. I'm 5'11" and 170.
I don't understand these weight/BMI "guidelines" either. As a result, I usually don't pay much attention to them unless my weight is way off from where it "should" be.
I'm no doctor, but saying that 170 lbs. is near overweight for a 5'11" guy in his 40's sounds crazy to me.
Quote: 1BBHave you been checked for bradycardia?
Had to look it up.
The only "issue" I've ever had is becoming dizzy when standing up quickly after being at rest for a long time. I've been sitting here at the PC for about 45 minutes; I just stood up and I'm fine. If I got playing Minecraft for 4 hours and then ran to the toilet... I'd have a few seconds of "whoa", and then it's gone.
I see it mentioned "trained athletes" have very slow heart rates as a result of sports adaptation, preventing tachycardia during competition. While I'm certainly not pro and don't train as such, I exercise and compete to the point of exhaustion at least 30-40 times a year even now, and have been doing much more than that for the last 18ish years of my life. Makes sense to me.
tl;dr - Ain't worried about it.
Quote: Beethoven9thI'm no doctor, but saying that 170 lbs. is near overweight for a 5'11" guy in his 40's sounds crazy to me.
Unbelievable as it sounds, I honestly believe many doctors still use guidelines that have been dubious from the beginning:
Quote: the linkThe history of the formulas for calculating ideal body weight began in 1871
"Weight (in kg) should equal Height( in cm) - 100, plus or minus 15% for women or 10% for men"
In practice this almost certainly arbitrarily-arrived-at formula is totally ridiculous, yet these ridiculous guidelines may rival vampires in living-dead longevity.
http://www.halls.md/ideal-weight/devine.htm
Quote: odiousgambitUnbelievable as it sounds, I honestly believe many doctors still use guidelines that have been dubious from the beginning:
100% agree. I have taken care of many professional athletes. Of course no names, but one in particular was a linebacker, who was in ridiculously good condition. He had muscles that were on top of his other muscles, and very little fat. But technically, according to his height and weight alone, he was borderline obese.
As far as HB goes, she listed a range of weights, and two separate issues were mentioned by her and others, what is healthy, and what looks good. There is no one who could deny that HB was both healthier and looked better at the end of the HB challenge than at the beginning. As far as whether HB would look better at 135 than 150, or be healthier at 135 than 150, both of those questions are up for debate.
As far as 1BB's comment about me having a crush on HB......I'll leave it that I have always been fascinated by HB, and am very happy I have had the opportunity to participate in her life changing challenge!
Quote: Quote: the linkThe history of the formulas for calculating ideal body weight began in 1871
"Weight (in kg) should equal Height( in cm) - 100, plus or minus 15% for women or 10% for men"
According to this I should weigh between 137 pounds and 186 pounds. So that would mean that if I were to go down to 135 pounds I would be considered underweight.
Quote: BuzzardI think HB should be proudest , not just of the money won, but of proving to her brother and Dad that she could do this !
I'm proudest that I proved to my self that I could do it.
Hell, I never had any doubts ! HONESTLY !
Quote: HotBlondeAgreed! I heard it said once that the only time it's bad to be overweight or obese is when it's causing issues. Otherwise there's no problem.
I've heard the opposite. A low body weight and/or high muscle mass are directly correlated to longevity.
" No FAT folks in the old age home. "
I'll try door #3, thanks.
Quote: BuzzardObesity KILLS, slowly but surely.
I thought that living kills, perhaps slowly but always surely. You make it sound as if obesity guarantees the "slowly" part, tending toward a longer life than otherwise.
;-)
Health issues aside, your bargaining power on the singles market will go up significantly as your weight drops.
Quote: Wizard
Health issues aside, your bargaining power on the singles market will go up significantly as your weight drops.
For sure for women. But it doesn't seem to matter as much for men. Just my experience.....
Quote: SOOPOOFor sure for women. But it doesn't seem to matter as much for men. Just my experience.....
The male equivalent is more like "...your bargaining power on the singles market will go up significantly as your wealth increases."
Quote: SOOPOOFor sure for women. But it doesn't seem to matter as much for men. Just my experience.....
Mine too. No matter what my weight is, I'm equally unsuccessful with women.
And where does financial wealth fit in with the equation with mass?
Quote: SOOPOOFor sure for women. But it doesn't seem to matter as much for men. Just my experience.....
I saw a movie the other day made in the last
10 years. There was a scene where a heavy
set guy in his early 60's was dating a woman
in her late 40's and he did something to piss
her off. His daughter asked if he was worried
about it and he replied "Naw, I'm in a sellers
market."
I think that's what Soopoo means. As men get
older, there are far more single women than
single men.
Quote: boymimboMike, it might have something to do with the wedding ring as well.
I haven't worn mine in years. However, when I did, I found that women were actually nicer to me. I figure it is because without the ring they are scared I'll hit on them and try to flee as quickly as possible.
Quote: WizardI haven't worn mine in years. However, when I did, I found that women were actually nicer to me. I figure it is because without the ring they are scared I'll hit on them and try to flee as quickly as possible.
Ashton Kutcher, when he married Demi Moore, said
he never got hit on as much in his life as when they
started seeing his ring. You think guys like him never
hear 'no' from women, but he says it's the opposite.
It's a feather in lots of women's caps if they say Ashton
Kutcher hit on them and got turned down. After he put
on the ring, he says women he never had a chance with
were all over him. Poor guy..
Quote: EvenBobAshton Kutcher, when he married Demi Moore, said
he never got hit on as much in his life as when they
started seeing his ring.
I believe it. Maybe they were just being nice, but I thought women were often flirty with me when I wore the ring. Without it, pretty much never. I'll have to leave it to the few women on the forum to explain why.
Quote: EvenBobAshton Kutcher, when he married Demi Moore, said
he never got hit on as much in his life as when they
started seeing his ring.
Quote: WizardI believe it. Maybe they were just being nice, but I thought women were often flirty with me when I wore the ring.
It's an ego thing too. Guys' egos are well-known & much talked about, but women are the same way. To be able to tempt a married man gives them a sense of power.
Quote: Beethoven9thTo be able to tempt a married man gives them a sense of power.
There's a flip side to that, too. Flirting itself is fun, and flirting with a married man is seen by some as "safer" than flirting with single guys.
Remember that video i touted to you about some fish? I know it was mostly BS, Obviously they are just trying to sell something, you had to get past the initial BS. also The guys tells a funny story. 90% is Bull however he explains exactly what your asking about. some of what he was saying makes some sense. He explains some psychology behind it. I would never buy such a thing but it was interesting.Quote: WizardI believe it. Maybe they were just being nice, but I thought women were often flirty with me when I wore the ring. Without it, pretty much never. I'll have to leave it to the few women on the forum to explain why.
Quote: rdw4potusThere's a flip side to that, too. Flirting itself is fun, and flirting with a married man is seen by some as "safer" than flirting with single guys.
Oh, most definitely. And they LOVE it when married guys flirt back. Feeds their ego. :)
Quote: WizardI believe it. Maybe they were just being nice, but I thought women were often flirty with me when I wore the ring. Without it, pretty much never. I'll have to leave it to the few women on the forum to explain why.
Hmm...well, tough question. In my experience, men who wear a ring are just as likely to be flirty as men who don't but are married. You, for example, are a big flirt, but not with your gestures or physical contact. More in tone of voice, phrasing, body posture, and facial expressions; you project a friendly availability. I think you mean it as a compliment to the woman (and I take it as such) that you enjoy her and yet YOU already know you're not going to cross the line yourself, so you don't have to censor your appreciation; but without the ring, women are going to be more guarded around you until THEY know that.
Married men in general can be casual and easy about it because, if it gets out of hand or misunderstood, they can always "twist the ring", wearing it or not. Women who see the ring (and that's the first thing we all look at on men; "ring check") take it on faith (though sometimes wrongly) that you're just enjoying them, not hitting on them, because you're being open about your status. VERY few women I know don't wear a wedding ring, so it's pretty reliable about them; but I'd bet half the married men I know don't wear one, so it's tougher for women to know on what basis the flirt is offered on first appearance.
Again in my experience, men who don't wear a ring and are not married are less likely to be flirty than either of the above. The unmarried men who flirt with me are serious about it, not casual; they're looking for action. Unmarried men who don't flirt with me are generally not interested in giving any signals that might be misconstrued (and I appreciate that; I'm not usually the first to throw a flirt); they'd rather err on the side of distant or cold than be casually flirty (at least on first acquaintance) and cause a misunderstanding. Once we're friends, they flirt outrageously but we already know it's just kidding.
Men with ego problems either married or single who need affirmation from another woman will flirt and then cut it off when they get a response, sending mixed signals. Those are the toughest for me to read until it's too late; I think they're the toughest for everybody. In fact, I don't think it's possible to tell if the guy's about both of you or about just himself until you get to that point, which might include things you wish you hadn't done when you find out. JMHO:YMMV
