Garnabby
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December 14th, 2011 at 3:31:57 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thanks for your trust. Yes, I stand behind both of them.


"If gambling didn't make casinos money, they would shut down or restructure to offer more profitable services.

If you're a gambler, you could keep trying to win against the casinos, but long-term most people won't succeed. Casino gambling is designed so that the house wins more often than the player. And nobody can escape that. If a player found some way to swing the odds in their favour, the casino would change the rules or ban the player. Casinos are not charities.

So a gambler can make money by selling advice to other players. He (or she) doesn't need to know a secret about how to win, he just has to pretend that he does. Other gamblers will listen because they are so keen to win.

In my personal opinion, the gambling writer is no better or worse than the casino. They both are trying to make money off people by pretending that it is easy to win." ( http://www.psychforums.com/gambling-addiction/topic76068.html )
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
Garnabby
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December 14th, 2011 at 3:59:51 PM permalink
Quote: BovadaService

Hi All - Bovada Customer Service here!.


Well, maybe you can and want to comment to a couple of things which the "Wizard", in your employ(?), has repeatedly conspicuously avoided.

To begin, how is your "casino" any different from the myriad of others with similar "reputation"? Is the only reason the Wizard "plugs" only yours that he is paid a lot(?) to do so? Paid a lot(?) to convince the "intelligent" that knowing the simple math involved ought to justify "the habit". ( Some Bodog complaints at http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=morris+mohawk+gaming+group+complaints&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripoffreport.com%2Fdirectory%2Fmorris-mohawk-gaming.aspx&ei=ZDPpTuvBDqji2QXKgfHACw&usg=AFQjCNHMe_Xmz-eaYee9zjO-DI-IvT8nnA )

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Previously Morris Mohawk Gaming Group licensed the use of the Bodog Brand to operate and instead, but we will now operate under the Bovada Brand name.


Wasn't that a pretend change of ownership, to further try to insulate its fugitive founder from US and Cdn federal prosecution? Maybe "the law" is getting too-close for comfort again; or there are changes coming to the Reserves(?), where the old servers lay?

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As for Bovada.LV as a name choice, we want to build a unique, strong brand. Bovada is a name we can make into whatever we want. As well, the fact it starts with B-O should help you find us in your browser for the first few weeks.


That's pretty-much what Calvin said about the old name, when others commented on its simple-mindedness. Looks like he's still "in the picture".
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
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December 14th, 2011 at 4:34:38 PM permalink
Quote: Garnabby

someone pissed in my corn flakes today


Tone it down please. If you are so steadfastly anti-gambling and anti-casinos, then it stands to reason you would be happier if you avoided things that are gambling-related.
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December 14th, 2011 at 6:44:34 PM permalink
Garnabby, there is something to be said about respect and class. If I invited you into my home and you did nothing but insult it, chances are you wouldn't be asked back. This is my site, and you should keep that in mind. I know you're not breaking any rules, but there is something to be said for unwritten rules. Bodog basically pays for this site. I don't force anyone to play there, but you are enjoying the service of this site at their expense and mine. Just remember where you are.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Garnabby
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December 15th, 2011 at 8:56:48 AM permalink
Quote: JB

Tone it down please.


Then kindly please do not quote me on that which I DID NOT WRITE; or of which is so-out-of-character as to beg a link.
Quote: JB

Quote: Garnabby

Garnabby: Someone pissed in my corn flakes today.


Quote: JB

If you are so steadfastly anti-gambling and anti-casinos, then it stands to reason you would be happier if you avoided things that are gambling-related.


At least you had the wherewithall to prefix that with an if. Anyway, why should even someone who is "anti-gambing" not be allowed a voice? Surely not because of the obvious rhetoric like, "you would be happier if you avoided things that are gambling-related."
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
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December 15th, 2011 at 9:12:51 AM permalink
Quote: Garnabby

Then kindly please do not quote me on that which I DID NOT WRITE.


Rather than quote a whole page of angry rambling, I summarized it in a concise sentence that said essentially the same thing.

Quote: Garnabby

At least you had the wherewithall to prefix that with an if. Anyway, why should even someone who is "anti-gambing" not be allowed a voice? Surely not because of the obvious rhetoric like, "you would be happier if you avoided things that are gambling-related."


You haven't been silenced. I just don't understand why you need to take your frustrations out on others. Quite frankly, you have the attitude of someone who lost a lot of money gambling and wants to blame the casinos and those who support them.
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December 15th, 2011 at 9:24:29 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Garnabby, there is something to be said about respect and class.


There sure is. Respect is something which must be earned. It has very little to do with "making a bet".

I was simply and openly questioning your conflict of interests between reseacher/promoter/adjunct prof/web-site owner/endorser. It shows up in biases toward posters such as myself, and how you "go after" whom in the industry (if that's required), egs.

Quote: Wizard

If I invited you into my home and you did nothing but insult it, chances are you wouldn't be asked back.


That's odd, with no 's'. I was very-careful, expressly to avoid this sort of reaction, to be forthcoming but factual and measured with each and every one of my posts on this board.
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This is my site, and you should keep that in mind. I know you're not breaking any rules, but there is something to be said for unwritten rules.


Please fill me in on those "unwritten rules" for your board. You mentioned to start new threads instead of ask these questions where arise. But would you address things there, or continue to avoid it?

Quote: Wizard

I don't force anyone to play there.Just remember where you are.


I would hope not, were that really up to you. But you do hand out A LOT OF ADVICE.

Quote: Wizard

Just remember where you are.


I am someone who has never "sold out" to anyone. I won't soon forget that.


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DISCLAIMER: I will not be held accountable for things which i neither write nor expressly imply.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
Garnabby
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December 15th, 2011 at 9:26:22 AM permalink
Quote: JB

Rather than quote a whole page of angry rambling, I summarized it in a concise sentence that said essentially the same thing.


Ask FrGamble, "Would that be an appropriate revision to his bible?" A lot of persons might believe it.

Quote: JB

Quite frankly, you have the attitude of someone who lost a lot of money gambling and wants to blame the casinos and those who support them.


Thank you, for your candor.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
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December 15th, 2011 at 10:43:52 AM permalink
Quote: Garnabby

I was simply and openly questioning your conflict of interests between reseacher/promoter/adjunct prof/web-site owner/endorser. It shows up in biases toward posters such as myself, and how you "go after" whom in the industry (if that's required), egs.



If I could run my sites without advertising, I'd be happy to. In fact, I did for the first three years. However, ultimately, I have to put rice on the table. If there is a better way than I'm doing now, I'm all ears. Once I tried the donation method in an adverting-free period. The number of people in the whole world who made a donation -- two.

So, yes, I would have to admit to some conflict of interest when it comes to Bodog or Bovada. You don't need to keep belaboring the point.

Quote: Garnabby

Please fill me in on those "unwritten rules" for your board.



Let me put it this way.

Would you go to a forum about fishing and rant about what a stupid waste of time it was to just stand there for hours, doing nothing 97% of the time.

Would you go to a forum about wine and rant how terrible it tastes.

Would you go to a forum for fans of the Chicago Cubs and do nothing but rant about how much they stink.

Maybe YOU would. However, most people understand about showing a little respect for the forum they are on and the type of people they are around. Maybe you default to disrespecting until respect is earned. Speaking only for myself, if I'm in someone else's house, business, or web site, I understand I'm a guest and mind my manners about what I say and do. If respect is lost, then I just leave.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Zcore13
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December 15th, 2011 at 2:31:04 PM permalink
Garnabby you are earning no respect with the rubbish you spew. If you don't like the topic of this forum... leave. If you don't like gambling... don't gamble. if you don't like Bodog/Bovada... don't visit their site.

Your rambling, partially on topic, partially unrecognizable points are neither informative nor entertaining.

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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.

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