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EvenBob
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September 11th, 2011 at 3:33:09 AM permalink
Has anybody here stayed at the Golden Gate?
Its the oldest hotel in Vegas and I've never been
in it. Do they have roulette? I love old hotels. I
stayed in the old part of Binions several times
and it was pretty cool. GG's rates are very cheap
and the rooms have all been recently redone.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
FleaStiff
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September 11th, 2011 at 5:06:16 AM permalink
Its an old hotel, so any renovations will never involve moving the walls and making the rooms larger. They are small rooms with even smaller bathrooms. Thats it. Don't even think fancy or spacious. It ain't. Rooms are cheap. Occasionally noisy too. For thirty dollars you ain't a gonna be getting the Ritz Carlton.
Roulette? Well, of course they have it. Just don't ask me anything about one or two zeroes but I would imagine it would be two.
pacomartin
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September 11th, 2011 at 7:43:28 PM permalink
From the NGC, the games are:
"CRAPS",2
"ROULETTE",1
"TWENTY ONE",11
"3-CARD POKER",1
"LET IT RIDE",1
"OTHER GAMES",1
"TOTAL SLOTS",330

It's a small place across the street from the bus station. Over 100 years old.



Used to be called the Sal Sagev hotel ( Las Vegas spelled backwards)
EvenBob
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September 11th, 2011 at 7:49:49 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin


It's a small place across the street from the bus station. Over 100 years old.



I've walked by it a hundred times. When I think about it,
I might have eaten at a cramped restaurant on the main
floor, many years ago. It was dark and a lot of dark wood,
and wooden booths. Food was good, as I recall.
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ddloml
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September 11th, 2011 at 7:55:38 PM permalink
The small restaurant in back is home to the famous $0.99 shrimp cocktail (although it might be $1.99 now). I had a sandwich there one that was pretty good too. The casino is tiny. I had my first big win at Let It Ride there several years ago when I hit a straight on a $3 table :>)
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September 11th, 2011 at 8:35:03 PM permalink
Quote: ddloml

The small restaurant in back is home to the famous $0.99 shrimp cocktail (although it might be $1.99 now). I had a sandwich there one that was pretty good too. The casino is tiny. I had my first big win at Let It Ride there several years ago when I hit a straight on a $3 table :>)


I think there are actually two small restaurants (maybe more). The shrimp cocktail is at a cafeteria-line/deli place just a step from their version of a party pit. Just after WoVCon, the Wizard introduced me to a different little restaurant at Golden Gate: Dupar's. My wife and I had dinner there with the Wizard and Gofaster87. I suppose they might have the shrimp, too, but I didn't look for it there.
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September 11th, 2011 at 8:36:58 PM permalink
Great place, I like the casino a lot. Very small. Confident in saying it's the smallest casino in Las Vegas. Great party pit, best in town in my opinion. Some historic stuff scattered around. Never been in the hotel rooms. Wizard said he would review it soon. (Or I will).
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September 11th, 2011 at 8:42:51 PM permalink
The cars depicted in front of the place on the postcard must be out of the 40's or earlier. Or at least, I'm not sure if there were any 50's models looking like that.
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September 11th, 2011 at 8:56:59 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

The cars depicted in front of the place on the postcard must be out of the 40's or earlier. Or at least, I'm not sure if there were any 50's models looking like that.


The only 50's cars I recall looking even the least bit like that were some of the MG models: the TC and TD, I think. Not sure of their years. As for the cars in the photo, I would guess them to be 30's vintage, or even late 20's, but I'm certainly not an authority on vehicles of that era.
EvenBob
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September 11th, 2011 at 9:22:09 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

The cars depicted in front of the place on the postcard must be out of the 40's or earlier.



1920's. These are from the mid 20's and are very similar.



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September 11th, 2011 at 10:59:36 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

I think there are actually two small restaurants (maybe more). The shrimp cocktail is at a cafeteria-line/deli place just a step from their version of a party pit. Just after WoVCon, the Wizard introduced me to a different little restaurant at Golden Gate: Dupar's. My wife and I had dinner there with the Wizard and Gofaster87. I suppose they might have the shrimp, too, but I didn't look for it there.



Du-Par's is a classic Los Angeles eatery that started in the Farmer's Market here in 1938. I had forgotten it has a Las Vegas location.
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September 12th, 2011 at 3:49:07 AM permalink
Du-Par's


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September 12th, 2011 at 6:02:10 AM permalink
Ah. Pies. The fifties. Nostalgia just ain't what it used to be.

There is just one problem ... if you read the complaints about the crime and roach infested Siegel Suites and remember that guy owns this casino then its going to put you off your feed for awhile despite all the pretty pictures of nostalgia.
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September 12th, 2011 at 6:05:37 AM permalink
I have played there a few times. The craps tables are old and long and the padding under the felt seems to feel ribbed as to thwart dice controllers. The girls (very pretty and friendly) that deal the black jack aslo dance (aka party pit) I believe they were 6/5 games with a CSM at the $5 level. It is a cool little Casino and a part of Vegas history. The VP and video keno pay tables were okay but not the best for your gaming dollar downtown. It does feel a little run down but it is old and they seem to have all the most popular games although maybe not at the best pay table. If you are on Fremont street though you should stop in just to say you were there. I know I would not actually stay there.
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September 12th, 2011 at 6:42:14 AM permalink
I like playing at the Golden Gate quite a lot, both craps and blackjack. MrRalph is right about the continuous shufflers, but I know I played 3/2 at $5 last time I visited. The small size of the place means very frequent cocktail service, which for me has meant a couple of late nights and rough mornings after. I second the vote on the girls being very attractive and friendly.
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September 12th, 2011 at 6:55:38 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Ah. Pies. The fifties. Nostalgia just ain't what it used to be.

There is just one problem ... if you read the complaints about the crime and roach infested Siegel Suites and remember that guy owns this casino then its going to put you off your feed for awhile despite all the pretty pictures of nostalgia.



The Golden Gate Hotel is owned by Mark Brandenburg.



The Siegal Suites owner bought the Gold Spike downtown. They are different hotels. The Gold Spike is in infinitely better shape since being bought.
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September 12th, 2011 at 7:39:10 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

The Golden Gate Hotel is owned by Mark Brandenburg. Siegal Suites owner bought the Gold Spike downtown. They are different hotels. .


Ah, sorry 'bout that confusion, particularly this early in the morning. I guess I just can't handle sobriety.
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September 12th, 2011 at 10:36:39 AM permalink
Incidentally, Golden Gate Casino is the ONLY casino I've EVER been to that refused to sell me the $1 souvenir chip at the table. I asked at an empty roulette table, an empty craps table, and the cage. They said I would have to buy in and play. So I bought in for $20 on the craps table, pretended to answer my phone, and left.
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September 12th, 2011 at 11:07:11 AM permalink
Quote: Kayday

I like playing at the Golden Gate quite a lot, both craps and blackjack. MrRalph is right about the continuous shufflers, but I know I played 3/2 at $5 last time I visited. . .



If you play $10 or $15 minimums then you can play Blackjack from a shoe. However, the penetration is around 60% so not a good place for counters.

The place is loud and lively so it will suit those seeking the party-style atmosphere.

The guy in charge of the table games used to run The Golden Nugget so I would imagine that it was a dramatic change for him.
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September 12th, 2011 at 11:31:41 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin



Great images Paco. The Sal Sagev opened at that location in 1931, so the cars in the illustration are probably early 30's models.

The original building was constructed in 1905 (hence the 100+ years old claim). It was originally known as the "Hotel Nevada", it had "luxurious" 10x10 ft. rooms. According to the Golden Gate website, the same rooms can be rented today.
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September 12th, 2011 at 2:45:59 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

it had "luxurious" 10x10 ft. rooms. According to the Golden Gate website, the same rooms can be rented today.



Rooms were smaller 100 years ago because people were smaller, and
they just used rooms to sleep in. There was no TV or radio, no air
conditioning, they didn't hang out in the room like they do today. And
yes, people were tiny 100 years ago compared to today. The average
height of a man in 1900 was about 5' 6". In WWII it was only 5' 7". I've
seen Civil War uniforms from the period and its like they were made
for children. If you went back in history, the first thing you'd notice is
how short everybody was, and how badly they stank.
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September 13th, 2011 at 10:58:13 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

If you went back in history, the first thing you'd notice is
how short everybody was, and how badly they stank.



Oh, history,... I thought you were talking about the Western Casino by the bus terminal
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September 14th, 2011 at 9:47:12 AM permalink
Who says this board has no influence? They are expanding the Golden Gate. According the LVRJ, plans call for adding conference rooms, moving the deli, expanding the casino, and adding 500 sq ft. suites.
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September 14th, 2011 at 12:59:00 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Who says this board has no influence? They are expanding the Golden Gate. According the LVRJ, plans call for adding conference rooms, moving the deli, expanding the casino, and adding 500 sq ft. suites.



Golden Gate has been very effective in marketing to European visitors who are both more impressed with nostalgia, and also much more used to small hotel rooms where they are common.

The parking lot they are using for the expansion has space for about 100 cars and is a very unfortunate use of the space. The penthouse suites might tie in nice with the luxury X-Train which will be bringing customers willing to spend $200 round trip for the train ride. The train will have 1100 seats and operate 5 round trips per week. Some of them will undoubtedly want to stroll right from the train station to their suite.

The Golden Gate fell below $12million per year in gaming revenue (last time they were above was in Fiscal Year 2005 or 2006. Hopefully this will put them well above the breakpoint.
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September 14th, 2011 at 1:05:20 PM permalink
Absolutely love this place. The woodwork inside and the old hotel lobby are amazing. Love looking at all the old pictures on the wall.
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