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September 1st, 2011 at 4:34:21 PM permalink
I'm still considering living in Vegas for a least 7 months
out of the year. Somebody just told me in a PM that
living in Vegas is far different from visiting there. I know
I loved Hawaii, but when I moved there for 6 months I
ended up hating the place. What are the pro's and con's
of living in Vegas. I love the city, but I don't want to end
up hating it like I did Hawaii.
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September 1st, 2011 at 4:39:19 PM permalink
Why would someone hate Hawaii? On the other side, I live in Holland and I hate this place too. But it seems so hard for me to hate Hawaii...
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September 1st, 2011 at 4:43:33 PM permalink
You didn't like Hawaii. You must be a grumpy old man!!! sorry, had to take the shot.

From what I've been reading, off the top of my head.

Las Vegas

Pros:
- very cheap housing
- proximity to world class casinos
- easy to get to anywhere else in the United States
- hot, dry weather (can be a pro or a con) - snow is almost non-existent (but not god nonexistent)
- lots of activities and things to do both gambling and non-gambling related
- great food
- great concerts
- the Wizard lives there (pucker intentional).

Cons
- transient population
- very high crime in certain areas
- ease to become gambling derelict
- very bad drinking water supply (3rd worst in the country)
- hot, dry weather
- very high unemployment, low paying and unsteady jobs
- difficult to make friends (transient)
- traffic can be a bear
- no professional sports
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September 1st, 2011 at 4:47:24 PM permalink
Quote: Flynn

Why would someone hate Hawaii? On the other side, I live in Holland and I hate this place too. But it seems so hard for me to hate Hawaii...



I worked with a guy who hated HI. Said traffic was both bad (HI has most cars per mile of paved road in USA) and dangerous with tourists who were lost and not paying attention. Said you were often just missed being T-Boned at lights. Housing was and is super expensive. Today milk is $9/gal. Everything costs more.

Weather is nice but monotanous. If you are like me and like to drive several hundred miles you are SOOL.

I'd visit but doubt I would live there.
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September 1st, 2011 at 4:50:36 PM permalink
Here is my take on his thoughts:

Las Vegas

Pros:
- very cheap housing- Do what I am doing and move here with as little as possible and prepay a lease. My 3 month prepaid lease is 1/2 the price of 1 month here in San Francisco.
- proximity to world class casinos- Does not matter, if you live there you should stay out!
- easy to get to anywhere else in the United States- And the world, but so are most other major cities.
- hot, dry weather (can be a pro or a con) - snow is almost non-existent (but not god nonexistent)- I am dreading the heat, but like anything the body will get used to it.
- lots of activities and things to do both gambling and non-gambling related- True, and it is less expensive than other cities.
- great food- Yep!
- great concerts- Yep
- the Wizard lives there (pucker intentional).

Cons
- transient population- Here in San Francisco it is just as bad or worse
- very high crime in certain areas- Same as here in the SF bay area
- ease to become gambling derelict- True so stay out of the casino
- very bad drinking water supply (3rd worst in the country)- Brita water filter?
- hot, dry weather- But there is no humidity! I lived on the east coast for 3 years and the humidity is the worst! There is a saying it is not the heat but the humidity.
- very high unemployment, low paying and unsteady jobs- High unemployment here too, and since the cost of living is cheaper there the jobs pay less. I read somewhere that a $40,000 a year job in San Francisco is equal to a $27,000 in Las Vegas.
- difficult to make friends- I disagree, I found the people in LV much friendlier than here in SF.
- traffic can be a bear- Just like here in CA.
- no professional sports- I have no interest in sports

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September 1st, 2011 at 4:58:28 PM permalink
Quote: Flynn

Why would someone hate Hawaii? On the other side, I live in Holland and I hate this place too. But it seems so hard for me to hate Hawaii...



Hawaii is full of predjudiced people. All the different nationalities there
hate each other and they all hate the US military. It just got to me, and
I could never find a job because I was white. Hawaii is very clannish,
and unless you're rich and self supporting, I wouldn't live there.
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September 1st, 2011 at 5:02:37 PM permalink
More cons:

highest car insurance rates in the country (mine more than doubled from Washington rates)
smog (summer rains are like being stuck in a stinky hot shower)
suicide rate highest in nation (maybe except for Detroit)
month of May brings an infestation of roaches the size of crickets. I can't even walk though my place at night in bare feet without a light on. Nasty.

Recent UNLV poll asked residents and found that:
40% residents would like to leave Las Vegas if they could
65% feel no sense of belonging
8% were actually born here

More pros:

excellent public library system with a great website backing it up
great food. If you like worldly cuisines, there are whole neighborhoods devoted to authentic markets and restaurants, like Spring Mountain, extending 3 miles west of the Strip (at TI).
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September 1st, 2011 at 5:25:04 PM permalink
Quote: zippyboy

More cons:

smog (summer rains are like being stuck in a stinky hot shower)



Really? I've visited in May and the air was clear as, well, as clear as air.

You ought to fly into Mex City someday. For one thing you can spot it froma disatnce by the brown stain hanging over it. For another you'd know what smog is.

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month of May brings an infestation of roaches the size of crickets. I can't even walk though my place at night in bare feet without a light on. Nasty.



All over or in some places? As I said I've been there in May from '08 to '10 and saw no such vermin at all on the Strip, Downtown or Hoover Dam. There was a pleasant lack of mosquitos, too.
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September 1st, 2011 at 6:19:05 PM permalink
Looking at the grocery ads at Von's and Albertsons,
I don't see a bit of difference in the prices in MI or
NV. Liquor is cheaper in NV by a couple dollars a
half gallon.
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September 1st, 2011 at 8:04:45 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Looking at the grocery ads at Von's and Albertsons,
I don't see a bit of difference in the prices in MI or
NV. Liquor is cheaper in NV by a couple dollars a
half gallon.



I think if you have money, then Western Las Vegas (where the Wiz lives) is one of the nicest places in the country to retire. Very comfortable weather, nice homes, lots of golf, comfortable casinos, etc.

There are some incredible homes to the south as well. summerlin is by far the largest master planned community in the Las Vegas region. Some of it is within the city limits, and some outside. It is from the vast tracts of land that Howard Hughes accumulated in the 1960's.

They have homes for $12,700 (1 bdr./1 bath)


Where else are you going to buy a 3 bdr, 3 bath 5 year old home for less than $100K?
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September 1st, 2011 at 8:08:32 PM permalink
My problem is I hate high heat, and I avoid visiting Vegas in
the summer, let alone living there. Thats why I'm looking at
mobile homes.
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September 1st, 2011 at 11:15:13 PM permalink
The only thing I can suggest is spend a month there living, not as a tourist... I've no idea if you can get short-stay rentals, but I imagine you can. Go roughly when you'd like to be living here, and live, doing what it is you do week to week, with some driving around, looking at places to live/eat/shop. Course, doing your research, budgets and all that makes perfect sense too, but nothing beats being in a place.

I did 3 months in Canada before emigrating, and I knew by the third week I wanted to move and by the sixth week I was pretty much in a west coast frame of mind and was pulling up my UK roots. I figure a month of being somewhere to LIVE not visit should tell you what you need to know. Or, to be fairer, it told me what I needed to know.

Otherwise, good luck with it.
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September 1st, 2011 at 11:23:00 PM permalink
I've been all around the country, and FWIW the three "best" areas I found, and considered living at, were:

1) Boulder, Colo.

2) Santa Fe, NM

3) Portland, Or.

I chose door number three and have never regretted it.

Las Vegas is inferior to any of the above three cities.
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September 1st, 2011 at 11:30:57 PM permalink
Portland Oregon is the only US city that I've visited I'd like to spend a lot more time in. I'll admit I've not been to that many, and only West Coast ones, but that's one hell of a great city to relax in.
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September 1st, 2011 at 11:31:00 PM permalink
Quote: MrV



3) Portland, Or.

I chose door number three and have never regretted it.



You live in Portland? Its the homeless capital of the US, Portland
has more homeless people than per capita than any other US city.
It also rains 250 days a year. Its the meth capital of the West Coast.
Read this:


Portland Sucks (read the comments, they're better than the article)
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September 2nd, 2011 at 12:50:47 AM permalink
Do a 3 month lease like me and see if you like it. Dump a much stuff as you can. Getting rid of possessions is very cleansing.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 3:07:15 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You live in Portland? Its the homeless capital of the US, Portland
has more homeless people than per capita than any other US city.
It also rains 250 days a year. Its the meth capital of the West Coast.



You, sir, are a liar; or in the alternative you are badly informed.

It rains LESS than 250 days a year.

Other cities exceed our homeless rate per capita, e.g. LA and San Francisco.

The meth problem in PDX is no worse than in LA or LAS.

I will not argue that Portland is perfect: it isn't.

It will however affirm that its imperfections are the easiest to live with and accept.

Just my *informed* opinion ...
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September 2nd, 2011 at 4:51:44 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

You, sir, are a liar; or in the alternative you are badly informed It rains LESS than 250 days a year.



Interesting United States Weather Facts and Extremes

10 sunniest cities
Annual percent of possible sunshine
1. Yuma, Arizona 90%
2. Las Vegas, Nevada 85%
3. Phoenix, Arizona 85%
4. Tucson, Arizona 85%
5. El Paso, Texas 83%
6. Flagstaff, Arizona 79%
7. Fresno, California 79%
8. Reno, Nevada 79%
9. Sacramento, California 78%
10. Albuquerque, N.M. 76%

10 cloudiest cities
Avg number of cloudy days per year
1. Astoria, Oregon 240
2. Quillayute, Washington 240
3. Olympia, Washington 229
4. Seattle, Washington 227
5. Portland, Oregon 223
6. Kalispell, Montana 213
7. Binghamton, New York 212
8. Beckley, West Virginia 211
9. Elkins, West Virginia 211
10. Eugene, Oregon 209
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September 2nd, 2011 at 7:52:00 AM permalink
http://www.city-data.com/forum/las-vegas/

Check out this website. It is a forum on living in Las Vegas. Lots of good info both bad and good.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 8:22:14 AM permalink
Pacomartin said, regarding Portland, that it rains 250 days a year.

When challenged, he found a reference to PDX being CLOUDY 223 days per year.

So what?

BIG difference between clouds and rain, and Binghamton, NY is cloudy almost as frequently as Portland; what rep does IT have?

It would be illuminating to view the authority you relied upon for your assertion ("250"): please cite to it.

A more accurate count of the number of rain days would be approx. 155 per year.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 8:28:14 AM permalink
stepping on toes here I think. Some very touch toes, with bunions and such?
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September 2nd, 2011 at 8:37:45 AM permalink
PDX Rain data found here

On average, 156 days with rain >.01, 44 days with trace of rain, 171 days with no precipitation at all.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 10:12:22 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

stepping on toes here I think. Some very touch toes, with bunions and such?



Nah, I don't care what people think about Portland, but when someone SAYS something that is demonstrably FALSE, I'll object.

It's like saying "The Hard Way Bets are the best best on the craps table."

I've no agenda or beef with the claimant: all I want is the truth, just give me some truth.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 10:15:35 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

I've been all around the country, and FWIW the three "best" areas I found, and considered living at, were:

1) Boulder, Colo.

2) Santa Fe, NM

3) Portland, Or.

I chose door number three and have never regretted it.

Las Vegas is inferior to any of the above three cities.



#1 is commonly referred to as the Republic Of Boulder by Coloradans.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 2:32:23 PM permalink
My sister lives in Portland. She could have written half the
comments in the article I linked to. I've been to Portland
several times. Nuff said.



Meth in Portland

Portland#1 Depressed City

#1 Per Capita in Homelessness
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September 2nd, 2011 at 2:59:41 PM permalink
Considering the topic of this thread, it is ironic that the second article you cited ranks Las Vegas as the top city for suicides.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 3:06:20 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

Considering the topic of this thread, it is ironic that the second article you cited ranks Las Vegas as the top city for suicides.



Thats because money is such a huge part of the equation
in Vegas. In Portland, its depressing, but that leads more
to drug abuse than suicide. Like the guy in the video said,
when he's on meth he's happy. Its the homeless problem
in Vegas (and Portland) that bothers me. Being around
'street people' makes me nervous, it always leads to increased
crime.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 5:11:57 PM permalink
Nevada would also appear to be number one in homelessness ... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/10/national/main2349515.shtml

"Nevada had the highest share of its population homeless, about 0.68 percent...Advocates for the homeless blame Nevada's high rate on a variety of factors, including drugs, gambling, mental health issues, low wages, high rents and a lack of insurance. "They get a job. They get some money under their pocket. They gamble it away..." "

FWIW, anecdotally, meth use appears to be on the decline in Stumptown.

Now folks are leaning increasingly on heroin and oxycontin.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 9:17:24 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Nevada would also appear to be number one in homelessness .



Portland is number one PER CAPITA. Do you know what per capita
means? Portland also leads the nation in prescribed anti depressants
per capita, let alone all the illegal drugs they do. You're the only person
I've ever heard who says they love Portland. What gives..
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September 2nd, 2011 at 9:38:27 PM permalink
Portland is also the whitest big city in the U.S.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 10:32:09 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Portland is number one PER CAPITA. Do you know what per capita
means? Portland also leads the nation in prescribed anti depressants
per capita, let alone all the illegal drugs they do. You're the only person
I've ever heard who says they love Portland. What gives..



I know several people who love Portland. Including a very hot chick who made the decision a few months ago to move from Vegas to Portland. Personally I've never been there and have no opinion on it.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 10:55:49 PM permalink
My sister says the thing that bugs her the most about
Portland is the rednecks. Those guys on 'Gold Rush
Alaska' are all from Portland and they are for sure as
redneck as they come. Here's an interesting comment
about living in Portland:

"Portland is a quaint, pretty little city. Some interesting architecture and nice greenery. It is, however, full of grubby hippies full of their own self-importance and bitter about their miserable social standing. I’ve never seen a city packed with so many unsophisticated, provincial yokels who believe that they are learned, hip and oh so well informed... The majority of Portlanders are passive aggressive, spacey and fake. The stinking hippies aren’t about peace and love, even though those are the virtues they apparently expound. They’re more interested in getting stoned or drunk, living in squalor and bitching about people with money. God, I hate this shithole… can’t wait to leave the cesspit of humanity that is PDX."
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September 2nd, 2011 at 11:14:59 PM permalink
This is what you see in Portland, its in your face everywhere. Maybe the locals are used to it,
its like Calcutta in the 60's. Or now, probably.









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September 2nd, 2011 at 11:33:01 PM permalink
It's interesting that the same people who complain about homeless people are the same ones who also complain about welfare. I wonder what the homeless population would swell to if there were no welfare programs. I guess the reply would be "send them all back where they came from". Of course you don't see homeless immigrants on the street as they're cleaning houses and taking care of your children and milking the system. 20% of homeless folks are Veterans according to the statistics. The west coast is very popular for the homeless because of the climate and the general liberal attitute people have.

Just because a city has a large population of homeless doesn't make it less nice to live.
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September 2nd, 2011 at 11:37:51 PM permalink
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Just because a city has a large population of homeless doesn't make it less nice to live.



Of course it does! I couldn't walk a block in Santa Barbara without getting
panhandled. Ditto for the beach area. They were always breaking into my
van. It was why I eventually left CA. It effects the quality of life to see people
laying on the sidewalks and holding signs everywhere you go. Its depressing.
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September 3rd, 2011 at 1:54:32 AM permalink
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This is what you see in Portland ...

No. Its not. What you see in Portland is good clubs, good beer, good foods, good music. Night clubs, craft beers, theaters, music and dance abound in Portland. There is great internet coverage. And good real estate investments. The "homeless problem" often very youthful runaways and throwaways are seen only by tourists, documentary producers and do-gooder social workers. The rest of the people in Portland see some dark cabaret, listen to Edith Piaf renditions in their local pubs, watch a belly dancer, learn ballroom dancing, learn the cello, renovate a building, open a business, go to a wine bar, go a pub that focuses on good food pairings for its new brews, etc. Go to the Secret Society Lounge and look at the people there, listen to the fairly good music, see if any of those people ever see the homeless? They don't! Hippies? The people in Portland are the ones who put on the various hippie festivals or own the land on which they take place.
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September 3rd, 2011 at 3:22:03 AM permalink
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No. Its not. What you see in Portland is



LOL! I've been to Portland, nice try.
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September 3rd, 2011 at 6:33:59 AM permalink
I read this topic from start and it was a good read with different angels and perspective in general.

I come from a different part of the world and wondering what kind of conditions some one has working in Las Vegas.
Do some one know what a Nurse makes in Las Vegas - just want to compare.

Then i wondering if you have a system for renting apartment or are you force to buy.
If you can rent - does the apartment exist in nice areas.
How much is the rent for 2 room with kitchen in average central area in Las Vegas.

I hear so much negative things about USA so i am curios and don't want to offend any one.
From where i come we have free health care - no matter if you broke your leg or need a new heart.
We have insurance if we lose our work and get 80% of salary.
There is both option to rent and buy apartments in good areas.

Just want to compare as who know i could take one free year from work and try Las Vegas - just idea and generally curios.
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September 3rd, 2011 at 7:14:55 AM permalink
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It's interesting that the same people who complain about homeless people are the same ones who also complain about welfare. I wonder what the homeless population would swell to if there were no welfare programs. I guess the reply would be "send them all back where they came from". Of course you don't see homeless immigrants on the street as they're cleaning houses and taking care of your children and milking the system. 20% of homeless folks are Veterans according to the statistics. The west coast is very popular for the homeless because of the climate and the general liberal attitute people have.



No, the reply is, "Tell them to find a freaking job." Quit begging. Quit blaming society for their problems.

And to government, quit enbling them. Start rousting them when they squat somewhere. Enforce vagrancy laws against panhandlers. Make being "homeless" in your town hard. Eventually all the homeless will move to San Francisco. And we need to stop calling them "homeless" and start calling them "bums" again. Because that is what they are. When you don't work and prefer to beg; root around in garbage; eat what I throw away, that's what you are, a BUM.

Rudy Gulliani proved that enforcing laws againstg these bums makes them change their behavior. Remember the "squeege men" who ran up to cars stuck in traffic, rubbed dirty water on the windshield, and demanded money for this "service?" He got rid of them. NYC is far from perfect but Rudy showed the stick is better than the carrot when you deal at that level.

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Just because a city has a large population of homeless doesn't make it less nice to live.



This is the kind of statement Limosine Liberals always make. They make it because they don't get continuously panhandled as they go to work to make a living.
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September 3rd, 2011 at 7:53:47 AM permalink
>what a Nurse makes in Las Vegas
I've no idea but various online job ads will give you an idea. Beware that "nurses" may have to submit foreign educational credentials to the Nevada officials before acting as nurses in Nevada. Various nurse assistant jobs are minimum wage positions usually. There are firms that represent Traveling Nurses and handle all arrangements, including obtaining temporary employment, housing and transportation.

>Then i wondering if you have a system for renting apartment or are you force to buy.
Apartments for rent are usually available all over the place with ads in various papers, university bulletin boards and online services. There are also "relocation services" that assist people and just about any real estate broker will send you a relocation package. Many apartments are furnished, many are unfurnished. Just about any city in America has a variety of furniture rental services and many apartment complexes will give you a list of those they recommend.

>If you can rent - does the apartment exist in nice areas.
Yes. And bad areas. Rent varies.

>From where i come we have free health care - no matter if you broke your leg or need a new heart.
Health care here is extremely expensive and without insurance you might not get it.
>We have insurance if we lose our work and get 80% of salary.
Unemployment insurance in the USA varies from state to state. Its temporary and it is nowhere near 80 percent of your salary.
MrV
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September 3rd, 2011 at 7:53:49 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Portland is number one PER CAPITA. Do you know what per capita
means? Portland also leads the nation in prescribed anti depressants
per capita, let alone all the illegal drugs they do. You're the only person
I've ever heard who says they love Portland. What gives..



LOL

EvenBob "goes on the attack" after I exposed him for talking out his A$$ about how it supposedly rains 250 days a year here in Portland.

No doubt he got that little factoid from his venomous, seemingly bipolar "sister."

I've stuck a fork in you, EvenBob, you're "done."

But keep ranting about how horrible Portland is ... the LAST thing we need are more disaffected, disenchanted transplants heading west to The Promised Land.
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September 3rd, 2011 at 8:20:09 AM permalink
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People in Portland see some dark cabaret, listen to Edith Piaf renditions in their local pubs, watch a belly dancer, learn ballroom dancing, learn the cello, renovate a building, open a business, go to a wine bar, go a pub that focuses on good food pairings for its new brews, etc. Go to the Secret Society Lounge and look at the people there, listen to the fairly good music, see if any of those people ever see the homeless? They don't! Hippies? The people in Portland are the ones who put on the various hippie festivals or own the land on which they take place.


Sounds really productive.
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September 3rd, 2011 at 10:33:54 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

>what a Nurse makes in Las Vegas
I've no idea but various online job ads will give you an idea. Beware that "nurses" may have to submit foreign educational credentials to the Nevada officials before acting as nurses in Nevada. Various nurse assistant jobs are minimum wage positions usually. There are firms that represent Traveling Nurses and handle all arrangements, including obtaining temporary employment, housing and transportation.

>Then i wondering if you have a system for renting apartment or are you force to buy.
Apartments for rent are usually available all over the place with ads in various papers, university bulletin boards and online services. There are also "relocation services" that assist people and just about any real estate broker will send you a relocation package. Many apartments are furnished, many are unfurnished. Just about any city in America has a variety of furniture rental services and many apartment complexes will give you a list of those they recommend.

>If you can rent - does the apartment exist in nice areas.
Yes. And bad areas. Rent varies.

>From where i come we have free health care - no matter if you broke your leg or need a new heart.
Health care here is extremely expensive and without insurance you might not get it.
>We have insurance if we lose our work and get 80% of salary.
Unemployment insurance in the USA varies from state to state. Its temporary and it is nowhere near 80 percent of your salary.



@ FleaStiff -Thanks for taking time answering my questions - that was a nice reply.

I could read that you mention minimum wage positions - that does not sound so good.
One Nurse in my contry have good salary and are not at minimum wage positions - as we value it as a good occupation - minimum is around 3400$ and up to 4400$ - but i may add we pay 30 to 31 % in tax ...

But i have not fully understand your system - as i read average pepole need two to three jobs to get a regular life in your contry - that is what i read and suppose same apply to Las Vegas.
But i could assume that is because family's that has to save and pay for education for there children - does are free in my contry.
Sorry for comparing - but that is how i can relate to how things are good or bad.
And your tipping system i wont even mention - cant grasp it - but i assume it is because you don't add 20% tax on clothing and food in stores or out visiting restaurant.

Cheers
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.
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September 3rd, 2011 at 10:39:42 AM permalink
Quote: AverageJOE

I could read that you mention minimum wage positions - that does not sound so good.


NO. Read my post more carefully.
Nurses make fairly good money in our country, but alot of our jobtitles contain the word "nurse" but are very low paying. So a CNA or Certified Nursing Assistant would tend to be low pay and often have night work.
Please dont be mislead by some job advertisements that you see online that say Nursing Assistant or Nurses Aide.
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September 3rd, 2011 at 1:22:42 PM permalink
Quote: AverageJOE


And your tipping system i wont even mention - cant grasp it - but i assume it is because you don't add 20% tax on clothing and food in stores or out visiting restaurant.



The tipping culture in Las Vegas is based on the idea to show gratitude for a service with a cash incentive. Many casino workers are often minimum wage (I believe $8.25 an hour) or some how less, I read somewhere $7.50, I am not sure how they can do that. Anyway it is not because there is no 20% tax added, it is solely because that is the only way the casino, bar, and restaurant workers make a living is off the generosity of their customers. It is a huge gamble to have one's salary tip based. Often there tends to be an average of what one can expect. However when customers are not tipping anything or very little it becomes quite frustrating as the employee may begin to worry how they will pay their bills etc...
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September 3rd, 2011 at 1:42:37 PM permalink
Quote: MrV



EvenBob "goes on the attack" after I exposed him for talking out his A$$ about how it supposedly rains 250 days a year here in Portland.



Thats it? Thats your defense of Portland? And you think I'm 'done'?
You haven't given one credible reason for living there. The number
of people on the net that hate Portland is astounding, living there
must be a nightmare. I know visiting there is..
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September 3rd, 2011 at 1:44:40 PM permalink
Hey this is supposed to be about living in Las Vegas everyone needs to stop talking about Portland, stick to the discussion about living in Las Vegas or create a new forum about Portland. Okay?
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September 3rd, 2011 at 1:51:50 PM permalink
Quote: NicksGamingStuff

The tipping culture in Las Vegas is based on the idea to show gratitude for a service with a cash incentive. Many casino workers are often minimum wage (I believe $8.25 an hour) or some how less, I read somewhere $7.50, I am not sure how they can do that. Anyway it is not because there is no 20% tax added, it is solely because that is the only way the casino, bar, and restaurant workers make a living is off the generosity of their customers. It is a huge gamble to have one's salary tip based. Often there tends to be an average of what one can expect. However when customers are not tipping anything or very little it becomes quite frustrating as the employee may begin to worry how they will pay their bills etc...



Nice reply - thanks and i just feel it should be criminal to build employment with minimum salary and add tipping to it - (It is a huge gamble to have one's salary tip based.) - but that is due to i come from a different society - where we have the Junion and protecting laws and saftey net for workers in generally.
Owner of company's can not do what they want and we have certain rights that protect us from bad conditions.

Sorry to say but i get a bad impression.

Cheers
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.
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September 3rd, 2011 at 1:54:47 PM permalink
Doesn't NV have some weird car registration law thats based on the value
of your car? In MI I pay $55 for most vehicles, no matter what their value.
What is it in NV?
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September 3rd, 2011 at 2:18:38 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Thats it? Thats your defense of Portland? And you think I'm 'done'?
You haven't given one credible reason for living there. The number
of people on the net that hate Portland is astounding, living there
must be a nightmare. I know visiting there is..



Goodbye, troll.

*ignore*
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