pecogg
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March 10th, 2011 at 3:12:43 AM permalink
I mentioned recently, in another thread, that I live near Oklahoma, but refuse to play there, as each casino I've been to (2), charged a .50 commission on all table game bets. My meager Internet research skills have been unable to help me determine why this is. Is it some sort of policy, state law, or do the casinos just do this because they can? I was convinced it was state law until, recently, a friend who was travelling near Oklahoma told me that a casino just inside the Oklahoma state line, had a commission-free promotion for the weekend. Does anyone know for sure? Thanks in advance.
JIMMYFOCKER
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March 10th, 2011 at 4:35:36 AM permalink
Never heard of such
FleaStiff
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March 10th, 2011 at 5:38:20 AM permalink
Its not law.
Its just a way of squeezing more money out of the players, particularly at low-bet tables.
Some casinos charge a commission for making a BJ bet of less than a certain amount. So they accommodate the fleas by taking their bets but slap them with a surcharge for doing it.
ItsCalledSoccer
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March 10th, 2011 at 5:57:42 AM permalink
Which OK casinos? The ones on the Red River, while still not great (except sometimes the poker is pretty good), doesn't do this, IIRC. But yeah, still not great ...
JIMMYFOCKER
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March 10th, 2011 at 6:06:42 AM permalink
Oklahoma has good food and hot woman, I do know that.
pecogg
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March 10th, 2011 at 6:51:20 AM permalink
The one's I'm referring to are: Kiowa Casino, which is just north of Witchia Falls, Texas, and I believe the Lucky Star in Clinton, OK, does the same, unless that's changed recently.

I played at Kiowa a year or two back. I hadn't played blackjack in a while and felt the itch while I was traveling through the area, since my home state does not allow casino gambling. Lost nearly all of my $100 buy-in in a matter of a few minutes. Took about $8 worth of chips to the window to cash out, and the cashier (kidding around) asked me, "Big bills?" I went along and replied, "Yes, big bills." We both had a laugh. Put the remainder into a dollar slot and got back up to around $60. Took that to the TCP table (where they also charged .50 commission on each bet) and worked that up to around $200 in just a few hands (every hand paid a bonus, either straights or flushes, even toking the dealer). Went back to the window and told the same lady, "Now I'll take big bills!" Both laughed, and I left with my meager winnings. Point is, each table game required a .50 commission on each hand. Haven't played, and won't play, anywhere in Oklahoma since.
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March 10th, 2011 at 7:36:00 AM permalink
Quote: pecogg

I mentioned recently, in another thread, that I live near Oklahoma, but refuse to play there, as each casino I've been to (2), charged a .50 commission on all table game bets. My meager Internet research skills have been unable to help me determine why this is. Is it some sort of policy, state law, or do the casinos just do this because they can? I was convinced it was state law until, recently, a friend who was travelling near Oklahoma told me that a casino just inside the Oklahoma state line, had a commission-free promotion for the weekend. Does anyone know for sure? Thanks in advance.



Yes, it's a state law. Oklahoma only has Indian casinos. As part of the compact with the Indians allowing casinos to have table games, the casinos must collect .50 commission on all table game bets (side bets are not subject to the $.50)

Some casinos do not charge the commission to the players, they "eat" it themselves.
pecogg
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March 10th, 2011 at 9:34:13 AM permalink
Thanks for the information! Wow, it's hard to believe there's a casino out there that would voluntarily eat that expense, when they could just as easily fall back on "we have no option; it's state law." Wonder how anyone gets ahead - it's hard enough to stay even or make a small profit when one doesn't have a per-hand commission to contend with. Thanks.
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March 10th, 2011 at 9:42:47 AM permalink
Quote: pecogg

Thanks for the information! Wow, it's hard to believe there's a casino out there that would voluntarily eat that expense, when they could just as easily fall back on "we have no option; it's state law." Wonder how anyone gets ahead - it's hard enough to stay even or make a small profit when one doesn't have a per-hand commission to contend with. Thanks.



Any costs imposed by government are paid by the cutomer, no matter how vehemently the seller claims to absorb it. In this case the casinos who "eat" the comission make it up in house edge or in some other way (food, drink, hotels, shows, parking, whatever).
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
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March 10th, 2011 at 10:04:38 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Any costs imposed by government are paid by the cutomer, no matter how vehemently the seller claims to absorb it. In this case the casinos who "eat" the comission make it up in house edge or in some other way (food, drink, hotels, shows, parking, whatever).



Incorrect. At Downstream Casino (where there is no commission) parking is free. The rules on Pai Gow Poker are the same as they are at any other casino. The lunch buffet was $9.99 (no tax!). I'm not paying for these costs in any way.

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