IAchance5
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January 19th, 2011 at 5:24:26 AM permalink
Ok, so as most of you already know that I'm going to vegas in two months, and I already have my stay booked at Paris ($112 total for Thurs-Sat nights), but I just want your input on the pros and cons about staying on the strip verses staying downtown. Originally, I wanted to stay downtown at one of those newly renovated properties, but my buddy who's coming with me, likes staying on the strip because of the "nicer" properties (He has been to vegas 3 times and stayed at the Wynn, Caesar's, and Aria). I've heard that downtown is a much better gambling experience because it's more locals, plus the hold % is better than the strip. I also heard that the comp rate (return) is better than the strip. What would you guys do? Just keep the Paris room, and try to get downtown during the weekend, or switch to a downtown property and take a cab down to the strip?
wrongway
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January 19th, 2011 at 6:07:43 AM permalink
We stayed at the Paris last year and really liked it. It is nice in the evening to be able to leave your hotel and already be on the strip. Where to play would depend I think on how much you expect to gamble. Comps and the house hold % don't matter if you are only going through a few hundred per day which is what we do. So we play were we want and take in the sights and have fun, we enjoyed both the strip and downtown. We took the bus by the way. Some like it, some don't. We didn't mind but it's busy at night. On a side note... we actually enjoyed the rapid craps game at Bill's Gambling Hall which is right across the street from the Paris and Bally's. Also enjoyed their $5.99 steak and eggs breakfast but you have to get up early.
FleaStiff
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January 19th, 2011 at 6:23:12 AM permalink
>I'm going to vegas in two months
Good Luck.
>and I already have my stay booked at Paris ($112 total for Thurs-Sat nights),
Good. Then be done with it.
> Originally, I wanted to stay downtown, but my buddy likes staying on the strip because of the "nicer" properties.
Fine, you can keep him happy with that Paris reservation.
>I've heard that downtown is a much better gambling experience
You've heard wrong.
Its better for slot players. Big deal. You going to be feeding slot machines all the time? Then go to the Boulder Strip and get the best! Or better yet, go to The Silver Nugget, a tiny little dump out in the middle of nowhere and get even better slot deals. No rooms, no frills, no nuttin... but good for slot players.
Its better downtown than on the strip for certain limited craps bets. You gonna be making those rather rare craps bets?
Its generally a slightly more relaxed rate of play downtown, but big deal it ain't no deciding factor.
>the hold % is better than the strip.
Not by much and mainly on slots.
>I also heard that the comp rate (return) is better than the strip.
You are speaking about pennies here, not dollars. So it is not a deciding factor. Food and drinks might be a tad better at Paris.
And you can wander on the Strip better than downtown.
>Just keep the Paris room,
Yes.
MathExtremist
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January 19th, 2011 at 8:25:37 AM permalink
The last time I stayed at the Paris, my friend stayed at Bally's next door. He had a larger, nicer room than I did, and for less money (well, mine was comped, but the casino rate was less). I'd stay on the Strip if the vacation aspect of the trip is important, but you might look into moving next door to Bally's.
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gambler
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January 19th, 2011 at 8:29:57 AM permalink
It really depend on what you enjoy doing on your Vegas vacation. If you are going as a hard core gambler who puts in a lot of time at the tables or slots, then your action will take your further downtown. For example, if you are a $100 per hand player giving the casino 4+ hours a day would get you a great rating at a downtown casino with probably a room comp, food comps, etc. That same action at a large casino on the strip will get you a room discount or some free food.

If you are relatively new to Las Vegas and want to do things other then gambling like seeing shows, shopping, eating out, walking, sight seeing, etc. then I would definately stay on the strip. Take a taxi cab up to downtown while you are there and spend an evening wandering around. Yes, some of the properties have been renovated, but in general, downtown is dirty and old.

Personally, I would stay on the strip on this trip. It sounds like your friend definately prefers the location of the strip, the Paris is a great hotel, and the gambling isn't that much better downtown.
AZDuffman
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January 19th, 2011 at 10:04:31 AM permalink
Quote: IAchance5

Ok, so as most of you already know that I'm going to vegas in two months, and I already have my stay booked at Paris ($112 total for Thurs-Sat nights), but I just want your input on the pros and cons about staying on the strip verses staying downtown. Originally, I wanted to stay downtown at one of those newly renovated properties, but my buddy who's coming with me, likes staying on the strip because of the "nicer" properties (He has been to vegas 3 times and stayed at the Wynn, Caesar's, and Aria). I've heard that downtown is a much better gambling experience because it's more locals, plus the hold % is better than the strip. I also heard that the comp rate (return) is better than the strip. What would you guys do? Just keep the Paris room, and try to get downtown during the weekend, or switch to a downtown property and take a cab down to the strip?



When I go I end up staying on the strip and gambling downtown. I would consider doing this. That way you can stay at the "nice" place and gamble at a real casino instead of disneyland. Just how I do it.
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Wavy70
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January 19th, 2011 at 10:05:45 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

And you can wander on the Strip better than downtown.



Not looking to start a pissing contest (Which somehow happens on this board for the most innocuous things) but seeing that Fremont is a closed pedestrian walkway with no traffic to deal with save for 1 intersection how is the strip better for wandering. Some parts of the sidewalk on the strip cataract quite a bit causing log jams.
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FinsRule
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January 19th, 2011 at 10:22:21 AM permalink
When I take a Vegas trip, we usually spend one night downtown, and the rest of the time on the strip. There's just not much to see downtown. In one night, you can hit all the casinos easily.

So yeah, I guess that makes downtown easier to wander, but you don't see as much.

Vegas is all about the glitz and craziness. Staying on the strip is so much better.

Side note: I always laugh when people will tell me they are going to vegas and staying at places like circus circus, or stratosphere. If they're going for 3 nights, it'll cost them like $150. They could stay on the strip in a much better place for maybe $200 if they look around a bit. They'll lose that $50 in taxi fares easily.
mkl654321
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January 19th, 2011 at 10:40:55 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

When I take a Vegas trip, we usually spend one night downtown, and the rest of the time on the strip. There's just not much to see downtown. In one night, you can hit all the casinos easily.

So yeah, I guess that makes downtown easier to wander, but you don't see as much.

Vegas is all about the glitz and craziness. Staying on the strip is so much better.

Side note: I always laugh when people will tell me they are going to vegas and staying at places like circus circus, or stratosphere. If they're going for 3 nights, it'll cost them like $150. They could stay on the strip in a much better place for maybe $200 if they look around a bit. They'll lose that $50 in taxi fares easily.



They're probably laughing right back---the difference between $50/night and $200/night adds up fast. And how much time do you spend in your hotel room when you're in Vegas?
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January 19th, 2011 at 10:51:27 AM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

They're probably laughing right back---the difference between $50/night and $200/night adds up fast. And how much time do you spend in your hotel room when you're in Vegas?

Not to put words in the Fin's mouth, but I suspect he meant $200 for three nights on the strip, just like the $150 for three nights at the Circus or Strat. There are plenty of places on the strip that go for $200 per, and others where (at least on week nights) you could get three for that price. So he really was talking about a $50 difference over three nights, with more than that much consumed getting from the Strat to center strip by cab for three days.

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