Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul
November 12th, 2024 at 1:28:44 PM
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Why do you think it's a joke?Quote: billryanThis fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Do you think it's all fake?
Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?
Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?
If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 12th, 2024 at 1:36:47 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfWhy do you think it's a joke?Quote: billryanThis fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Do you think it's all fake?
Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?
Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?
If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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…And can you bet on said shenanigans?!? 😂😂😂
It’s a dog eat dog world.
…Or maybe it’s the other way around!
November 12th, 2024 at 1:41:42 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfWhy do you think it's a joke?Quote: billryanThis fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Do you think it's all fake?
Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?
Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?
If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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Boxing is fought in three-minute rounds with half-pound gloves. They will "fight" using the gloves worn during sparring sessions, designed not to hurt your partner.
Tyson would not get a license in Nevada, California or NY.
It's a made-for-television event.
I have no idea if the fight will be real or if they will follow a script, and I don't care.
It's a shame that boxing has sunk so low that this will be one of the 'better" fights of the year. Being the Heavyweight World Champion used to mean something, now I doubt half this fights viewers can even name one of them.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
November 12th, 2024 at 1:46:16 PM
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Exactly!!Quote: camaplQuote: AxelWolfWhy do you think it's a joke?Quote: billryanThis fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Do you think it's all fake?
Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?
Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?
If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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…And can you bet on said shenanigans?!? 😂😂😂
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If you feel strongly something is something's amiss, and you are correct, you can clean up.
Regardless, I love Boxing and I really enjoy special event stuff like this... I.E. Celebrity boxing, Floyd Mayweather vs. Conor McGregor, etc.
I have an added benefit regarding the betting. I have some rather juicy Sports bonuses that need some wagering requirements, or I'm done wagering and I want to put some cover bets in to keep more offers coming, get increased limits, and ensure faster payouts.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 12th, 2024 at 2:38:06 PM
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It's to my understanding that Pro women Fighters fight with 2-minute rounds, and I believe there have been mens Pro bouts that have had the two-minute rounds as well, so I'm not sure if that really matters.Quote: billryanQuote: AxelWolfWhy do you think it's a joke?Quote: billryanThis fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Do you think it's all fake?
Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?
Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?
If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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Boxing is fought in three-minute rounds with half-pound gloves. They will "fight" using the gloves worn during sparring sessions, designed not to hurt your partner.
Tyson would not get a license in Nevada, California or NY.
It's a made-for-television event.
I have no idea if the fight will be real or if they will follow a script, and I don't care.
It's a shame that boxing has sunk so low that this will be one of the 'better" fights of the year. Being the Heavyweight World Champion used to mean something, now I doubt half this fights viewers can even name one of them.
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I don't know if he could have gotten a license/ it sanctioned here in Nevada, or not, do you have a source saying they were going to reject it?
I certainly wouldn't have bet against them allowing the fight here. Wasn't Mike Tyson banned in the 90s from ever boxing in the United States again? I wonder what changed that, oh let me guess, big ass money involved? They're probably pissed off it's not happening in Las Vegas.
It seems odd that they wouldn't allow a license/it sanctioned but yet, they allow people to bet on the fight? If they don't think the fight is legitimate, then they cannot allow people to bet on it.
Personally, I don't think Just because something has special rules that it should automatically be called a joke.
This is probably going to be one of the most viewed fights ever.
If you think boxing has hit an all-time low, perhaps you should support this, as it may very well add some life back into boxing. What killed boxing? I always assumed it was the rise of MMA.
However, I found this article very interesting and logical. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/127217-why-is-boxing-slowly-dying-and-can-it-be-saved
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 13th, 2024 at 3:08:48 AM
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Quote: AxelWolf
...If you think boxing has hit an all-time low, perhaps you should support this, as it may very well add some life back into boxing. What killed boxing? I always assumed it was the rise of MMA.
However, I found this article very interesting and logical. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/127217-why-is-boxing-slowly-dying-and-can-it-be-saved
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There's a saying about the types of British "football": Soccer is a gentleman's sport played by ruffians. Rugby is a ruffian's sport played by gentlemen.
I see that in MMA vs. boxing too. In boxing I see a lot of hype, outrageously overpriced and inaccessible events, competitors who aren't exactly role models.
In MMA I see a lot of class acts, exciting and unpredictable competition, athletes from all over the world and from all kinds of combat sport backgrounds comparing and improving their arts.
And one is a subset of the other. In every fighting sport where there is striking, boxing is a basic skill. So 100% of MMA guys are competent boxers, even if they aren't going to win a title against a specialist. In that respect you can compare it to decathlon, where they are all outstanding athletes but the decathlon record for each individual event is nowhere near the world record for specialists in that event.
So boxing will never die, no sooner than judo and Greco-Roman wrestling will ever die. And I think all those things will go on to be niche sports and they will all continue to be taught, but mostly as training for MMA which is destined to be the big money sport that boxing once was.
November 13th, 2024 at 5:02:39 AM
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Quote: billryanQuote: AxelWolfWhy do you think it's a joke?Quote: billryanThis fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Do you think it's all fake?
Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?
Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?
If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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Boxing is fought in three-minute rounds with half-pound gloves. They will "fight" using the gloves worn during sparring sessions, designed not to hurt your partner.
Tyson would not get a license in Nevada, California or NY.
It's a made-for-television event.
I have no idea if the fight will be real or if they will follow a script, and I don't care.
It's a shame that boxing has sunk so low that this will be one of the 'better" fights of the year. Being the Heavyweight World Champion used to mean something, now I doubt half this fights viewers can even name one of them.
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I bet all of the viewers of this fight could name one heavyweight champion…
November 13th, 2024 at 6:29:08 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleQuote: billryanQuote: AxelWolfWhy do you think it's a joke?Quote: billryanThis fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Do you think it's all fake?
Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?
Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?
If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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Boxing is fought in three-minute rounds with half-pound gloves. They will "fight" using the gloves worn during sparring sessions, designed not to hurt your partner.
Tyson would not get a license in Nevada, California or NY.
It's a made-for-television event.
I have no idea if the fight will be real or if they will follow a script, and I don't care.
It's a shame that boxing has sunk so low that this will be one of the 'better" fights of the year. Being the Heavyweight World Champion used to mean something, now I doubt half this fights viewers can even name one of them.
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I bet all of the viewers of this fight could name one heavyweight champion…
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I assume billryan meant that they could not name a current heavyweight champion. I couldn't even tell you how many there are. Except for Tyson Fury, I didn't even recognize the names of any of the champions listed on Wikipedia since Klitschko.
November 13th, 2024 at 6:42:09 PM
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When Muhammad Ali fought US Olympic hero Leon Spinks, it drew nearly half the national television audience. Larry Holmes won his title on ABC. CBS signed the Olympic Champs from the 1976 Olympics and turned them into stars. Then boxing abandoned television for PPV and lost its audience. MMA and Pro Wrestling embraced cable tv and prospered.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
November 13th, 2024 at 7:07:44 PM
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Quote: billryanWhen Muhammad Ali fought US Olympic hero Leon Spinks, it drew nearly half the national television audience. Larry Holmes won his title on ABC. CBS signed the Olympic Champs from the 1976 Olympics and turned them into stars. Then boxing abandoned television for PPV and lost its audience. MMA and Pro Wrestling embraced cable tv and prospered.
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That's a widely accepted explanation. The typical kid who gets into boxing, he's not exactly from a home with deluxe cable packages where they are into PPV, so when would he get to see boxing? I remember watching high level pro boxing on broadcast TV when I was a kid in the 70s.
November 14th, 2024 at 10:41:59 PM
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Katie Taylor vs Amanda Serrano
I know I saw Katie Taylor -130 Ish a few days ago and Amanda Serrano at plus money.
I didn't pay much attention to it Im limited to how much I could bet.
I see Katie Taylor is now +money and Katie Serrano is - money.
Did the line move that much, or did that book mix up the fighters?
I know I saw Katie Taylor -130 Ish a few days ago and Amanda Serrano at plus money.
I didn't pay much attention to it Im limited to how much I could bet.
I see Katie Taylor is now +money and Katie Serrano is - money.
Did the line move that much, or did that book mix up the fighters?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 15th, 2024 at 5:45:29 AM
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Tyson slapped Paul yesterday. Ticket sales must not be great?
November 15th, 2024 at 7:33:51 AM
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I also noticed that the lines changed for Taylor and Serrano. I have no idea why an Olympic gold medalist that won their last fight would be the underdog. All I can guess is that people were more impressed by Serrano’s presence during pressers/weigh in.
November 15th, 2024 at 7:49:45 AM
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Quote: billryanWhen Muhammad Ali fought US Olympic hero Leon Spinks, it drew nearly half the national television audience. Larry Holmes won his title on ABC. CBS signed the Olympic Champs from the 1976 Olympics and turned them into stars. Then boxing abandoned television for PPV and lost its audience. MMA and Pro Wrestling embraced cable tv and prospered.
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Boxing "abandoned television for PPV"? How many of the fights that were on TV were expected to be close, much less upsets?
MMA has an advantage over boxing; non-title bouts last, what, less than 20 minutes? (Three 5-minute rounds)
Also, I would hardly say that wrestling prospered because it embraced cable TV; it became popular because Vince McMahon went into areas that the NWA abandoned, put his shows on broadcast (syndicated) TV, and used them to sell his house shows. Okay, he got the Saturday evening spot on TBS in 1984, but that barely moved the needle.
One problem with boxing is, there are what seem to be 27 different sets of titles. WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO (IIRC, the reason WBO even exists was to give Ray Leonard the opportunity to win a "world title" in a fifth different weight class), IIRC (International In-Ring Congress), WBG (World Boxing Guys), IBT (International Boxing Types), East 34th Street Ladies' Tuesday Afternoon Social Club, Country Music Association, and Boxing Federation (sponsors of the East 34th Street Ladies' Tuesday Afternoon Social Club, Country Music Association, and Boxing Federation Country Music Awards - the only awards show that caters to its viewers by having only performances, and then showing a link in the closing credits to the website that lists the winners). It didn't help "in the day" that "heavyweight champion" Ken Norton never won a world title fight in his career.
November 15th, 2024 at 8:33:40 AM
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Never thought about it but the length of fights vs modern consumers attention span is a massive advantage for MMA.
Me, used to love boxing, you'd have to pay me to watch MMA.
Me, used to love boxing, you'd have to pay me to watch MMA.
November 15th, 2024 at 8:48:04 AM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: billryanWhen Muhammad Ali fought US Olympic hero Leon Spinks, it drew nearly half the national television audience. Larry Holmes won his title on ABC. CBS signed the Olympic Champs from the 1976 Olympics and turned them into stars. Then boxing abandoned television for PPV and lost its audience. MMA and Pro Wrestling embraced cable tv and prospered.
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Boxing "abandoned television for PPV"? How many of the fights that were on TV were expected to be close, much less upsets?
MMA has an advantage over boxing; non-title bouts last, what, less than 20 minutes? (Three 5-minute rounds)
Also, I would hardly say that wrestling prospered because it embraced cable TV; it became popular because Vince McMahon went into areas that the NWA abandoned, put his shows on broadcast (syndicated) TV, and used them to sell his house shows. Okay, he got the Saturday evening spot on TBS in 1984, but that barely moved the needle.
One problem with boxing is, there are what seem to be 27 different sets of titles. WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO (IIRC, the reason WBO even exists was to give Ray Leonard the opportunity to win a "world title" in a fifth different weight class), IIRC (International In-Ring Congress), WBG (World Boxing Guys), IBT (International Boxing Types), East 34th Street Ladies' Tuesday Afternoon Social Club, Country Music Association, and Boxing Federation (sponsors of the East 34th Street Ladies' Tuesday Afternoon Social Club, Country Music Association, and Boxing Federation Country Music Awards - the only awards show that caters to its viewers by having only performances, and then showing a link in the closing credits to the website that lists the winners). It didn't help "in the day" that "heavyweight champion" Ken Norton never won a world title fight in his career.
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Were you around in the 1970s? The televised fights were the Jimmy Young-Larry Holmes title fight, Foreman vs. Jimmy Young, Norton vs. Cooney, Leonard vs. Wilfredo Benitez, Duran vs. Buchanan, and Ali vs. whomever. Then you had guys like Boom Boom Mancini, who fought almost monthly, and CBS promoting the seven Gold Medalists. CBS also sponsored the heavyweight tournament to decide the world heavyweight champion. NBC promoted Duane Bobick and his fight vs Norton was on prime-time TV. Spinks beat Ali on national tv., ABC had boxing regularly on the weekends.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
November 15th, 2024 at 9:04:09 AM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyI just hope this whole thing isn't a work to set up something on WWE Raw when it starts on Netflix in early January.
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And just as I was convinced the fight is on the up-and-up, Tyson slaps Paul in the face. I had a flashback to when Andy Kaufman threw water in Jerry Lawler's face on the set of David Letterman's show.
Then again, it was probably just an attempt to get more people to subscribe to Netflix to watch the fight. I wouldn't be surprised if Paul was in on it.
November 15th, 2024 at 10:08:36 AM
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Paul is going into the fight with a full, thick beard. Roberto Duran needed a waiver to box with a goatee back in his day.
I can only hope Tyson can throw a punch better than that slap he threw. That was weak.
I can only hope Tyson can throw a punch better than that slap he threw. That was weak.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
November 15th, 2024 at 11:33:43 AM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: ThatDonGuyI just hope this whole thing isn't a work to set up something on WWE Raw when it starts on Netflix in early January.
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And just as I was convinced the fight is on the up-and-up, Tyson slaps Paul in the face. I had a flashback to when Andy Kaufman threw water in Jerry Lawler's face on the set of David Letterman's show.
Then again, it was probably just an attempt to get more people to subscribe to Netflix to watch the fight. I wouldn't be surprised if Paul was in on it.
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Of course it was. That's an old tradition of prizefighters, "selling the fight" with a kayfabe fight beforehand. I remember Frazier and Ali grappling on a talk show when I was a kid before their last fight. They didn't need to do it to sell tickets, they were just honoring the tradition.
November 15th, 2024 at 12:28:17 PM
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I discovered what has become MMA, in a series of VHS tapes. I think I watched about 8 tapes as that was all there was. None of all the professional training and infrastructure of today. Not much more than a brawl.
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November 15th, 2024 at 1:40:38 PM
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I guess there are people that don't understand this is free to Netflix subscribers, it's not just pay-per-view.
The undercards start at about 5:00 Standard Pacific Time.
>>>Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul full fight card<<<<
Featherweight: Bruce Carrington vs. Dana Coolwell
Lightweight: Lucas Bahdi vs. Armando Casamonica
Super middleweight: Shadasia Green vs. Melinda Watpool
Super middleweight: Neeraj Goyat vs. Whindersson Nunes
Welterweight: Mario Barrios (c) vs. Abel Ramos for the WBC welterweight title
Lightweight: Katie Taylor (c) vs. Amanda Serrano for the WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO and The Ring lightweight titles.
I took a generous Sportsbook bonus with low wagering requirements in anticipation of a full night of entertainment and +EV. Any and all opinions on the undercards are welcome.
My wife has been looking forward to watching this as well. It looks like sushi for her and a Pop's Philly steak night for me.
Is that considered Netflix and chill?
The undercards start at about 5:00 Standard Pacific Time.
>>>Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul full fight card<<<<
Featherweight: Bruce Carrington vs. Dana Coolwell
Lightweight: Lucas Bahdi vs. Armando Casamonica
Super middleweight: Shadasia Green vs. Melinda Watpool
Super middleweight: Neeraj Goyat vs. Whindersson Nunes
Welterweight: Mario Barrios (c) vs. Abel Ramos for the WBC welterweight title
Lightweight: Katie Taylor (c) vs. Amanda Serrano for the WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO and The Ring lightweight titles.
I took a generous Sportsbook bonus with low wagering requirements in anticipation of a full night of entertainment and +EV. Any and all opinions on the undercards are welcome.
My wife has been looking forward to watching this as well. It looks like sushi for her and a Pop's Philly steak night for me.
Is that considered Netflix and chill?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 15th, 2024 at 2:11:04 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfIt looks like sushi for her and a Pop's Philly steak night for me.
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So, Wolf would you say you're more like Tony Soprano who growls the Philly Cheesesteak order at the waitress, versus Little Carmine with the seared Ahi and mixed greens order who actually looks the waitress in the eye and says Please when ordering? Or a mixture of both?
Ordering etiquette aside do you ever order that seared Ahi and mixed greens?
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
November 15th, 2024 at 2:14:15 PM
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Quote: ImthefishI also noticed that the lines changed for Taylor and Serrano. I have no idea why an Olympic gold medalist that won their last fight would be the underdog. All I can guess is that people were more impressed by Serrano’s presence during pressers/weigh in.
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It was a pretty controversial split decision last time they fought. It’s 5 pounds heavier this time. Taylor seems to do well on the score cards.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
November 15th, 2024 at 2:22:15 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks this isn't a real fight? I think it is completely staged and the outcome is already known, just like Professional Wrestling. No matter what you think of Jake Paul, he seems to be a brilliant businessman.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
November 15th, 2024 at 2:24:24 PM
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My wife watched the video of that Tyson slap and says it was genuine as was the other guy’s reaction (don’t know his name - don’t care).
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
November 15th, 2024 at 2:40:02 PM
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I really don't like fish or seafood, especially if it's raw.Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfIt looks like sushi for her and a Pop's Philly steak night for me.
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So, Wolf would you say you're more like Tony Soprano who growls the Philly Cheesesteak order at the waitress, versus Little Carmine with the seared Ahi and mixed greens order who actually looks the waitress in the eye and says Please when ordering? Or a mixture of both?
Ordering etiquette aside do you ever order that seared Ahi and mixed greens?
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I do love clam chowder, shrimp when prepared correctly, prawns, and occasionally fish and chips. But pretty much everything else fish or seafood-related, I won't touch. As for lobster, it makes me want to hurl. Oh, I forgot, there have been a few occasions where I have enjoyed certain crab cakes that my wife ordered.
I'm not really into eating mixed WEEDS, they taste too bitter to me. I generally stick to broccoli, mushrooms, cauliflower, green beans, corn, cucumbers, yellow squash, and spinach if prepared properly.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 15th, 2024 at 2:46:04 PM
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Quote: MDawgMy wife watched the video of that Tyson slap and says it was genuine as was the other guy’s reaction (don’t know his name - don’t care).
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I hope it wasn't real, because it was weak.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
November 15th, 2024 at 2:52:06 PM
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Quote: DRichAm I the only one that thinks this isn't a real fight? I think it is completely staged and the outcome is already known, just like Professional Wrestling. No matter what you think of Jake Paul, he seems to be a brilliant businessman.
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While I am still not ruling out my "WWE run-in before the fight" possibility - one after the fight is also a possibility - if it turns out that the fight was fixed, it would ruin whatever credibility either of them had in the boxing (and, if Paul had any desires to do so, the MMA) ring. On top of that, anybody who bet serious money on Paul would be accused of being in on the fix, especially if they try to cash their winning tickets immediately after the fight.
November 15th, 2024 at 2:53:30 PM
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I don't think it's completely staged and the outcome is already known. Do I think it's completely on the up and up? That's hard to believe as well.Quote: DRichAm I the only one that thinks this isn't a real fight? I think it is completely staged and the outcome is already known, just like Professional Wrestling. No matter what you think of Jake Paul, he seems to be a brilliant businessman.
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But here's my question... would the Nevada Gaming Commission(or whatever state gaming Commission) allow betting on an event that was completely staged or even if they caught wind there were any Shenanigans going on?
Hypothetically, let's say Jake Paul and Mike Tyson both knew that Jake Paul could come out and smash him in the first round. I find it hard to believe Jake Paul would ever let that happen.
I think almost everyone would love it if Mike Tyson came out and knocked Jake Paul out in the first round. They might not even be disappointed the fight didn't last very long.
If Mike Tyson goes down too quickly it's going to be horrible for Netflix, horrible for boxing bad for Jake Paul, and bad for Mike Tyson.
Perhaps there's some kind of unspoken agreement that they will go easy on each other during the first rounds but at some point, I think it's going to be on. Maybe they'll just take a couple of rounds to feel each other out?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 15th, 2024 at 2:57:09 PM
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I have to agree with you. However, there might be some unspoken understanding of what needs to happen to make sure this event is not a big failure.Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: DRichAm I the only one that thinks this isn't a real fight? I think it is completely staged and the outcome is already known, just like Professional Wrestling. No matter what you think of Jake Paul, he seems to be a brilliant businessman.
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While I am still not ruling out my "WWE run-in before the fight" possibility - one after the fight is also a possibility - if it turns out that the fight was fixed, it would ruin whatever credibility either of them had in the boxing (and, if Paul had any desires to do so, the MMA) ring. On top of that, anybody who bet serious money on Paul would be accused of being in on the fix, especially if they try to cash their winning tickets immediately after the fight.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 15th, 2024 at 3:03:40 PM
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If Tyson wins, he beat a social media entertainer. Big whoop.
If Jake Paul wins, he beats a 56-year-old man. Big whoop.
I can't imagine why anyone cares about the result.
If Jake Paul wins, he beats a 56-year-old man. Big whoop.
I can't imagine why anyone cares about the result.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
November 15th, 2024 at 3:04:45 PM
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I'd rather watch Paul take on Caitlin in a one-on-one game of hoops.
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November 15th, 2024 at 3:15:45 PM
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Perhaps there's some kind of unspoken agreement that they will go easy on each other during the first rounds but at some point, I think it's going to be on. Maybe they'll just take a couple of rounds to feel each other out?
If the fight is legit we will see the best of Tyson in the first round or two. Stamina declines with age but his power will still be there
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November 15th, 2024 at 4:20:36 PM
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The 14 oz. gloves are gonna be lame...
November 15th, 2024 at 6:54:36 PM
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Quote: unJonQuote: ImthefishI also noticed that the lines changed for Taylor and Serrano. I have no idea why an Olympic gold medalist that won their last fight would be the underdog. All I can guess is that people were more impressed by Serrano’s presence during pressers/weigh in.
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It was a pretty controversial split decision last time they fought. It’s 5 pounds heavier this time. Taylor seems to do well on the score cards.
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Serrano now -260. Wow crazy line move. Wonder what the information asymmetry is.
I took the over 5.5 rounds in the Tyson/Paul fight.
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November 15th, 2024 at 7:18:49 PM
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Quote: billryanIf Tyson wins, he beat a social media entertainer. Big whoop.
If Jake Paul wins, he beats a 56-year-old man. Big whoop.
I can't imagine why anyone cares about the result.
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other than bettors, I think there's a lot of people who would love to see Paul get knocked out, including the entire island of Puerto Rico. Not gonna be the outcome, but it's one people would like to see.
November 15th, 2024 at 7:54:27 PM
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I’m trying to watch. The girls fight was on. Saw 1 round. Then ‘NETFLIX has encountered an error’ keeps showing up.
Came back on in round 5!
What a fight. Virtually no defense. Seemed like there were 100 punches by each girl that were knockout worthy. I think the Irish girl landed the bigger punches. And the decision seemed reasonable. The announcers didn’t think so….
Came back on in round 5!
What a fight. Virtually no defense. Seemed like there were 100 punches by each girl that were knockout worthy. I think the Irish girl landed the bigger punches. And the decision seemed reasonable. The announcers didn’t think so….
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November 16th, 2024 at 12:28:00 AM
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What the hell was that???!?! They call that professional pugilism? That wasn't pugilism, that looked like my neighbor Marcie and her sister Fegele fighting over the last blintz, when they both need to lose 50 pounds.
I watched it for free in a sports book, but if I had paid to watch and the main event was like that I'd be asking for a refund. That was a disgrace of a fight.
I watched it for free in a sports book, but if I had paid to watch and the main event was like that I'd be asking for a refund. That was a disgrace of a fight.
November 16th, 2024 at 3:28:28 AM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyWhat the hell was that???!?! They call that professional pugilism? That wasn't pugilism, that looked like my neighbor Marcie and her sister Fegele fighting over the last blintz, when they both need to lose 50 pounds.
I watched it for free in a sports book, but if I had paid to watch and the main event was like that I'd be asking for a refund. That was a disgrace of a fight.
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I saw the results.
Yup, went all the way as I predicted.
Now did they really hit each other or just played patty cake with their hands?
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November 16th, 2024 at 4:26:03 AM
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Quote: 100xOddsQuote: AutomaticMonkeyWhat the hell was that???!?! They call that professional pugilism? That wasn't pugilism, that looked like my neighbor Marcie and her sister Fegele fighting over the last blintz, when they both need to lose 50 pounds.
I watched it for free in a sports book, but if I had paid to watch and the main event was like that I'd be asking for a refund. That was a disgrace of a fight.
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I saw the results.
Yup, went all the way as I predicted.
Now did they really hit each other or just played patty cake with their hands?
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I was a little surprised. It looked to me that Tyson was actually trying the first two rounds and then just ran out of gas. From round 3 on it looked like Paul was just toying with him and not trying for a knockout. They both seemed happy that it went the distance.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
November 16th, 2024 at 5:00:59 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI don't think it's completely staged and the outcome is already known. Do I think it's completely on the up and up? That's hard to believe as well.
This.
Looked to me like both boxers had an awareness of their incentives: neither wanted to get knocked out and played it fairly safe.
I doubt there was any kind of formal agreement. Most of us would do the same if millions of pounds were at stake.
November 16th, 2024 at 9:50:43 AM
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No one is going to pay Tyson to fight anyone else. If he wants more money, he'll probably have to walk a tightrope over the Grand Canyon or something very unusual.
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November 16th, 2024 at 9:58:04 AM
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Quote: rxwineNo one is going to pay Tyson to fight anyone else. If he wants more money, he'll probably have to walk a tightrope over the Grand Canyon or something very unusual.
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Tyson had a one-man show on Broadway a few years ago, and it was amazing. I was truly surprised by how gibe he was. If he needed money, I'm sure he could do a residency at any casino in Vegas.
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November 16th, 2024 at 10:54:05 AM
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If you're a boxing fan and you avoided this event just because you thought Mike Tyson and Jake Paul was a joke fight, you missed out on a pretty good night of boxing.
In the first fight Neeraj Goyat vs. Whindersson Nunes. Nunes the underdog was seriously outmatched. I'm sure most people thought the fight was lame, but I still enjoyed it. Goyat was so dominant he backed Nunes into the corner and humped him. <<<That was very disrespectful. I was hoping Nunes would get Lucky and knock that cocky Goyat out somehow.
I took the underdog for a small amount getting pretty nice odds, and I lost.
The second fight (Mario Barrios vs. Abel Ramos) was a pretty damn good fight. Mario Barrios was dominating with his Jabs. He first landed a big hit that buckled Ramose and soon after knocked down Ramos early. I didn't think Ramos had a chance he may have even been Saved by the Bell. Ramos then he came back with some pretty good hits and knocked down Barrios. That fight went the distance and ended up a draw. Once again I had the underdog getting pretty nice odds, I think it was like four to one. I thought the favorite should have won, but I was happy he didn't. That fight deserves a rematch.
In the third fight Katie Taylor vs Amanda Serrano I bet Katy Taylor the first time I bet Taylor I had to lay money the second time I bet Katie Taylor I got +200 and +180.
That was a pretty awesome fight but before they announced the winner I was damn certain I was going to lose. Amanda Serrano got
absolutely robbed for the second time, I've been super lucky on bad decisions when betting on boxing. Katie Taylor is known for headbutting and there was some absolute head-butting going on. Amanda Serrano got caught above the eye during the first head-butt and reopened it up pretty badly during the second head-butt. One of the announcers thought they were going to stop the fight fight but, they didn't. In the later rounds that fight turned into an all-out brawl with very little defense, it was a pretty exciting fight.
Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson.
Oh boy, I bet that it wouldn't go the distance. I thought Tyson would somehow get lucky early and knock Jake out or Jake would knock him out for the fight would be stopped before the final round.
In the first fight Neeraj Goyat vs. Whindersson Nunes. Nunes the underdog was seriously outmatched. I'm sure most people thought the fight was lame, but I still enjoyed it. Goyat was so dominant he backed Nunes into the corner and humped him. <<<That was very disrespectful. I was hoping Nunes would get Lucky and knock that cocky Goyat out somehow.
I took the underdog for a small amount getting pretty nice odds, and I lost.
The second fight (Mario Barrios vs. Abel Ramos) was a pretty damn good fight. Mario Barrios was dominating with his Jabs. He first landed a big hit that buckled Ramose and soon after knocked down Ramos early. I didn't think Ramos had a chance he may have even been Saved by the Bell. Ramos then he came back with some pretty good hits and knocked down Barrios. That fight went the distance and ended up a draw. Once again I had the underdog getting pretty nice odds, I think it was like four to one. I thought the favorite should have won, but I was happy he didn't. That fight deserves a rematch.
In the third fight Katie Taylor vs Amanda Serrano I bet Katy Taylor the first time I bet Taylor I had to lay money the second time I bet Katie Taylor I got +200 and +180.
That was a pretty awesome fight but before they announced the winner I was damn certain I was going to lose. Amanda Serrano got
absolutely robbed for the second time, I've been super lucky on bad decisions when betting on boxing. Katie Taylor is known for headbutting and there was some absolute head-butting going on. Amanda Serrano got caught above the eye during the first head-butt and reopened it up pretty badly during the second head-butt. One of the announcers thought they were going to stop the fight fight but, they didn't. In the later rounds that fight turned into an all-out brawl with very little defense, it was a pretty exciting fight.
Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson.
Oh boy, I bet that it wouldn't go the distance. I thought Tyson would somehow get lucky early and knock Jake out or Jake would knock him out for the fight would be stopped before the final round.
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November 16th, 2024 at 11:17:22 AM
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I'm assuming a Mike Tyson and Jake Paul Boxing Match is just an Exhibition fight, where they PRETEND to fight, but are just having a fake boxing match. iCarly had an exhibition fight where Carly and Shelby were SUPPOSED to have an Exhibition fight(FAKE fighting) but Shelby angrily punched Carly for REAL after Nevel manipulated Carly and Sam's(Carly's Friend) audio to make it sound like Carly PLANNED to push down Shelby's elderly Grandmother when it was purely an accident. The truth was revealed and Shelby, Carly, and Sam beat up Nevel off camera. An Exhibition match between Mike and Jake could be a LOT of fun if it doesn't turn into a REAL anger fight like the Shelby/Carly match.
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November 16th, 2024 at 5:11:34 PM
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Quote: NathanI'm assuming a Mike Tyson and Jake Paul Boxing Match is just an Exhibition fight, where they PRETEND to fight, but are just having a fake boxing match. iCarly had an exhibition fight where Carly and Shelby were SUPPOSED to have an Exhibition fight(FAKE fighting) but Shelby angrily punched Carly for REAL after Nevel manipulated Carly and Sam's(Carly's Friend) audio to make it sound like Carly PLANNED to push down Shelby's elderly Grandmother when it was purely an accident. The truth was revealed and Shelby, Carly, and Sam beat up Nevel off camera. An Exhibition match between Mike and Jake could be a LOT of fun if it doesn't turn into a REAL anger fight like the Shelby/Carly match.
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Nailed it! It's akin to a Shoot Pro Wrestling Match, where the opponents lay in their strikes occasionally, but have an agreement there will be a back & forth exchange for "Entertainment Sake".
This was a glorified shoot pro wrestling match and a boring one at that. Tyson was winded by Round 4 and kept biting his glove to adjust his mouth guard instead of throwing bombs. Paul clearly pulled his punches to "keep things going" and knew he would win by decision if he just landed a few mild punches.
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November 16th, 2024 at 6:06:15 PM
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Quote: 7NeverWins
Nailed it! It's akin to a Shoot Pro Wrestling Match, where the opponents lay in their strikes occasionally, but have an agreement there will be a back & forth exchange for "Entertainment Sake".
This was a glorified shoot pro wrestling match and a boring one at that. Tyson was winded by Round 4 and kept biting his glove to adjust his mouth guard instead of throwing bombs. Paul clearly pulled his punches to "keep things going" and knew he would win by decision if he just landed a few mild punches.
And wouldn't ya know who won the pony???
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And that's more or less what UFC etc. has become. It's basically a shoot fight, but with enough rules to keep it "professional," i.e., they avoid career ending injury, they avoid things that are too gruesome for entertainment, and they avoid things that will end a match too quickly before all the sponsors' spots get run.
November 16th, 2024 at 6:26:35 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyAnd that's more or less what UFC etc. has become. It's basically a shoot fight, but with enough rules to keep it "professional," i.e., they avoid career ending injury, they avoid things that are too gruesome for entertainment, and they avoid things that will end a match too quickly before all the sponsors' spots get run.
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Today is ufc heavy weight championship fight:
Jon Jones (champ) vs Miocic.
Miocic hasnt fought since 2021.
That's the best the ufc can offer for the heavyweight belt?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
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November 16th, 2024 at 6:28:11 PM
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Quote: 7NeverWinsQuote: NathanI'm assuming a Mike Tyson and Jake Paul Boxing Match is just an Exhibition fight, where they PRETEND to fight, but are just having a fake boxing match. iCarly had an exhibition fight where Carly and Shelby were SUPPOSED to have an Exhibition fight(FAKE fighting) but Shelby angrily punched Carly for REAL after Nevel manipulated Carly and Sam's(Carly's Friend) audio to make it sound like Carly PLANNED to push down Shelby's elderly Grandmother when it was purely an accident. The truth was revealed and Shelby, Carly, and Sam beat up Nevel off camera. An Exhibition match between Mike and Jake could be a LOT of fun if it doesn't turn into a REAL anger fight like the Shelby/Carly match.
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Nailed it! It's akin to a Shoot Pro Wrestling Match, where the opponents lay in their strikes occasionally, but have an agreement there will be a back & forth exchange for "Entertainment Sake".
This was a glorified shoot pro wrestling match and a boring one at that. Tyson was winded by Round 4 and kept biting his glove to adjust his mouth guard instead of throwing bombs. Paul clearly pulled his punches to "keep things going" and knew he would win by decision if he just landed a few mild punches.
And wouldn't ya know who won the pony???
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I'm guessing Mike Tyson won the fight. 🤔💡 Jake was REALLY in a disadvantaged situation. If he WON the fight, People would rag and drag him for "Beating up someone who was old enough to be his Father. If he loses, it's,"You got beat up by someone old enough to be your Father, LMAO, what a loser!" Jake REALLY was in a lose lose situation.
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November 16th, 2024 at 9:37:50 PM
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Quote: 100xOddsQuote: AutomaticMonkeyAnd that's more or less what UFC etc. has become. It's basically a shoot fight, but with enough rules to keep it "professional," i.e., they avoid career ending injury, they avoid things that are too gruesome for entertainment, and they avoid things that will end a match too quickly before all the sponsors' spots get run.
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Today is ufc heavy weight championship fight:
Jon Jones (champ) vs Miocic.
Miocic hasnt fought since 2021.
That's the best the ufc can offer for the heavyweight belt?
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In UFC the heavyweight division isn't the most prestigious like it is in boxing. If you're 260 pounds what is your athletic background? You might be a boxer, or a wrestler or judoka but the jiu jitsu and muay thai moves that you need to be proficient in favor a lighter and more agile man.
