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AxelWolf
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November 12th, 2024 at 1:28:44 PM permalink
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This fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Why do you think it's a joke?

Do you think it's all fake?

Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?

Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?

If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 12th, 2024 at 1:36:47 PM permalink
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Quote: billryan

This fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Why do you think it's a joke?

Do you think it's all fake?

Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?

Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?

If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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…And can you bet on said shenanigans?!? 😂😂😂
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November 12th, 2024 at 1:41:42 PM permalink
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Quote: billryan

This fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Why do you think it's a joke?

Do you think it's all fake?

Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?

Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?

If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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Boxing is fought in three-minute rounds with half-pound gloves. They will "fight" using the gloves worn during sparring sessions, designed not to hurt your partner.
Tyson would not get a license in Nevada, California or NY.
It's a made-for-television event.
I have no idea if the fight will be real or if they will follow a script, and I don't care.
It's a shame that boxing has sunk so low that this will be one of the 'better" fights of the year. Being the Heavyweight World Champion used to mean something, now I doubt half this fights viewers can even name one of them.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
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November 12th, 2024 at 1:46:16 PM permalink
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Quote: billryan

This fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Why do you think it's a joke?

Do you think it's all fake?

Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?

Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?

If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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…And can you bet on said shenanigans?!? 😂😂😂
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Exactly!!
If you feel strongly something is something's amiss, and you are correct, you can clean up.


Regardless, I love Boxing and I really enjoy special event stuff like this... I.E. Celebrity boxing, Floyd Mayweather vs. Conor McGregor, etc.

I have an added benefit regarding the betting. I have some rather juicy Sports bonuses that need some wagering requirements, or I'm done wagering and I want to put some cover bets in to keep more offers coming, get increased limits, and ensure faster payouts.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 12th, 2024 at 2:38:06 PM permalink
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Quote: billryan

This fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Why do you think it's a joke?

Do you think it's all fake?

Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?

Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?

If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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Boxing is fought in three-minute rounds with half-pound gloves. They will "fight" using the gloves worn during sparring sessions, designed not to hurt your partner.
Tyson would not get a license in Nevada, California or NY.
It's a made-for-television event.
I have no idea if the fight will be real or if they will follow a script, and I don't care.
It's a shame that boxing has sunk so low that this will be one of the 'better" fights of the year. Being the Heavyweight World Champion used to mean something, now I doubt half this fights viewers can even name one of them.
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It's to my understanding that Pro women Fighters fight with 2-minute rounds, and I believe there have been mens Pro bouts that have had the two-minute rounds as well, so I'm not sure if that really matters.

I don't know if he could have gotten a license/ it sanctioned here in Nevada, or not, do you have a source saying they were going to reject it?

I certainly wouldn't have bet against them allowing the fight here. Wasn't Mike Tyson banned in the 90s from ever boxing in the United States again? I wonder what changed that, oh let me guess, big ass money involved? They're probably pissed off it's not happening in Las Vegas.

It seems odd that they wouldn't allow a license/it sanctioned but yet, they allow people to bet on the fight? If they don't think the fight is legitimate, then they cannot allow people to bet on it.

Personally, I don't think Just because something has special rules that it should automatically be called a joke.

This is probably going to be one of the most viewed fights ever.

If you think boxing has hit an all-time low, perhaps you should support this, as it may very well add some life back into boxing. What killed boxing? I always assumed it was the rise of MMA.

However, I found this article very interesting and logical. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/127217-why-is-boxing-slowly-dying-and-can-it-be-saved
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 13th, 2024 at 3:08:48 AM permalink
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...If you think boxing has hit an all-time low, perhaps you should support this, as it may very well add some life back into boxing. What killed boxing? I always assumed it was the rise of MMA.

However, I found this article very interesting and logical. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/127217-why-is-boxing-slowly-dying-and-can-it-be-saved
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There's a saying about the types of British "football": Soccer is a gentleman's sport played by ruffians. Rugby is a ruffian's sport played by gentlemen.

I see that in MMA vs. boxing too. In boxing I see a lot of hype, outrageously overpriced and inaccessible events, competitors who aren't exactly role models.

In MMA I see a lot of class acts, exciting and unpredictable competition, athletes from all over the world and from all kinds of combat sport backgrounds comparing and improving their arts.

And one is a subset of the other. In every fighting sport where there is striking, boxing is a basic skill. So 100% of MMA guys are competent boxers, even if they aren't going to win a title against a specialist. In that respect you can compare it to decathlon, where they are all outstanding athletes but the decathlon record for each individual event is nowhere near the world record for specialists in that event.

So boxing will never die, no sooner than judo and Greco-Roman wrestling will ever die. And I think all those things will go on to be niche sports and they will all continue to be taught, but mostly as training for MMA which is destined to be the big money sport that boxing once was.
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November 13th, 2024 at 5:02:39 AM permalink
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Quote: billryan

This fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Why do you think it's a joke?

Do you think it's all fake?

Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?

Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?

If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
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Boxing is fought in three-minute rounds with half-pound gloves. They will "fight" using the gloves worn during sparring sessions, designed not to hurt your partner.
Tyson would not get a license in Nevada, California or NY.
It's a made-for-television event.
I have no idea if the fight will be real or if they will follow a script, and I don't care.
It's a shame that boxing has sunk so low that this will be one of the 'better" fights of the year. Being the Heavyweight World Champion used to mean something, now I doubt half this fights viewers can even name one of them.
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I bet all of the viewers of this fight could name one heavyweight champion…
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November 13th, 2024 at 6:29:08 PM permalink
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Quote: billryan

This fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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Why do you think it's a joke?

Do you think it's all fake?

Do you just believe there's no way Mike Tyson can win, and there's no way in hell he should be fighting?

Do you think both Fighters are going to do their absolute best to win?

If you believe there are shenanigans going on what type of shenanigans and how do you think will all play out?
link to original post



Boxing is fought in three-minute rounds with half-pound gloves. They will "fight" using the gloves worn during sparring sessions, designed not to hurt your partner.
Tyson would not get a license in Nevada, California or NY.
It's a made-for-television event.
I have no idea if the fight will be real or if they will follow a script, and I don't care.
It's a shame that boxing has sunk so low that this will be one of the 'better" fights of the year. Being the Heavyweight World Champion used to mean something, now I doubt half this fights viewers can even name one of them.
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I bet all of the viewers of this fight could name one heavyweight champion…
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I assume billryan meant that they could not name a current heavyweight champion. I couldn't even tell you how many there are. Except for Tyson Fury, I didn't even recognize the names of any of the champions listed on Wikipedia since Klitschko.
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November 13th, 2024 at 6:42:09 PM permalink
When Muhammad Ali fought US Olympic hero Leon Spinks, it drew nearly half the national television audience. Larry Holmes won his title on ABC. CBS signed the Olympic Champs from the 1976 Olympics and turned them into stars. Then boxing abandoned television for PPV and lost its audience. MMA and Pro Wrestling embraced cable tv and prospered.
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November 13th, 2024 at 7:07:44 PM permalink
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When Muhammad Ali fought US Olympic hero Leon Spinks, it drew nearly half the national television audience. Larry Holmes won his title on ABC. CBS signed the Olympic Champs from the 1976 Olympics and turned them into stars. Then boxing abandoned television for PPV and lost its audience. MMA and Pro Wrestling embraced cable tv and prospered.
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That's a widely accepted explanation. The typical kid who gets into boxing, he's not exactly from a home with deluxe cable packages where they are into PPV, so when would he get to see boxing? I remember watching high level pro boxing on broadcast TV when I was a kid in the 70s.
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