Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul
I think the under would be a good bet, however I'm worried both of these fighters understand that a short quick fight is not good for anyone.
It seems more likely that it's legit but theres all kinds of possible shenanigans to be had.
There are some so-called experts that actually claim Mike Tyson is going to win.
I'm not sure if or what I'm going to bet on but I'm definitely going to be watching this fight. Mike
Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano should be a good match up I have bet on both of these wound fighters in the past, I'm leaning towards Katie Taylor.
If Jake wins , I'll ignore
Quote: billryanI'll watch a replay, but I don't care either way. I'm just happy Mike Tyson lived to be this age and is leading the good life. The man has overcome so much.
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Most convicted rapists have ‘overcome so much’.
He served his time, I’ll watch the fight if it is convenient.
So you are taking the under?Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting./link]
I watched some of his training and he looks really good.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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Saw this today
I doubt there is any gas left in the tank
Quote: AxelWolfSo you are taking the under?Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting./link]
I watched some of his training and he looks really good.
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No I'm not going to bet on that. I don't bet on female fighting either because it aesthetically offends me. They should be playing at Graces instead.
https://hylandhouse.org/at-home-activities/the-flying-circle-make-your-own-game-of-graces/
Going from my own athletic perspective, I'm around the same age as Tyson and was quite a gorilla, back in the day. But I would not even think of attempting some of the things I used to do in the weight room or elsewhere, because it doesn't last. Not for me, for him, or for anyone. The difference between looking like you can do it to a layman and being able to compete against a professional are subtle. Kind of like chess in that if I were to play against a grandmaster, there is no question who would win. He might win in 30 or 40 moves and to a non-chessplayer it might look like we were evenly matched until the very end, but an expert would see I never had a chance and my fate was sealed 10-15 moves before the checkmate.
Quote: DRichIf there is no college football on TV that night I will watch the fight since it is on Netflix. I would never pay to watch it.
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The "main card" begins on Netflix at 8 Eastern, but it's not clear if there are any fights before Tyson-Paul.
Wyoming-Colorado State and North Texas-UTSA start at 8; UCLA-Washington starts at 9.
Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: DRichIf there is no college football on TV that night I will watch the fight since it is on Netflix. I would never pay to watch it.
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The "main card" begins on Netflix at 8 Eastern, but it's not clear if there are any fights before Tyson-Paul.
Wyoming-Colorado State and North Texas-UTSA start at 8; UCLA-Washington starts at 9.
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If that is the case I will probably be watching the Roadrunners game.
You must do well with the ladies.Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI don't bet on female fighting either because it aesthetically offends me. They should be playing at Graces instead.
https://hylandhouse.org/at-home-activities/the-flying-circle-make-your-own-game-of-graces/
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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I can recall exactly the same argument being made to prevent the Holyfield-Tyson match-up decades back. People were seriously concerned Tyson would literally kill Holyfied.
Holyfield won. So did George Foreman when he was two years older, in worse shape, against an actual boxing world champion.
So I don't take this fight seriously enough to bet on it. But no judgment for anyone who does.
Quote: Archvaldor1Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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I can recall exactly the same argument being made to prevent the Holyfield-Tyson match-up decades back. People were seriously concerned Tyson would literally kill Holyfied.
Holyfield won. So did George Foreman when he was two years older, in worse shape, against an actual boxing world champion.
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Holyfield was 34 when he beat Tyson
George Foreman's last fight was at age 48
Tyson is now 58
that's a very, very big difference
getting into the ring at age 58 is quite astonishing to me
Albert Hughes Jr. fought at age 70 in 2019 - that's even crazier - insane - he KOed his 43 year old opponent
here's big Al in the ring at age 70:
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Quote: terapinedIf Mike wins , I'll watch the replay
If Jake wins , I'll ignore
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ding ding ding winnar
and jake is a 3:1 favorite??? (-$275 at sports books)
Yeah, mike is old (almost 60).
But Jake's claim to fame is that he fought famous scrubs (big name but has been mma fighters).
Also, doesnt Mike hate jake for all the shade that Jake has thrown his way?
Or just pre-fight fiction to get people interested?
If it's real, i can see Mike tear Jake's head off in 1st round
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: terapinedIf Mike wins , I'll watch the replay
If Jake wins , I'll ignore
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ding ding ding winnar
and jake is a 3:1 favorite??? (-$275 at sports books)
Yeah, mike is old (almost 60).
But Jake's claim to fame is that he fought famous scrubs (big name but has been mma fighters).
Also, doesnt Mike hate jake for all the shade that Jake has thrown his way?
Or just pre-fight fiction to get people interested?
If it's real, i can see Mike tear Jake's head off in 1st round
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Tyson has said he likes Jake. Last interview I saw with him.
Have no idea if that makes an overall difference in any fight. Don't know if it's ever been analyzed. Have seen some pretty brutal fights from fighters who like each other.
Absolutely not, they love each other.Quote: 100xOdds
Also, doesn't Mike hate Jake for all the shade that Jake has thrown his way?
I swear Mike had to contain himself from smiling too much and outright laughing during a "shoving match"
Perhaps that's normal for him under those circumstances, but I don't think so, at least not when it's that obvious.
Quote: AxelWolfSo you are taking the under?Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting./link]
I watched some of his training and he looks really good.
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2 minute rounds. I’m taking the over.
Quote: Archvaldor1Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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I can recall exactly the same argument being made to prevent the Holyfield-Tyson match-up decades back. People were seriously concerned Tyson would literally kill Holyfied.
Holyfield won. So did George Foreman when he was two years older, in worse shape, against an actual boxing world champion.
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I don't remember that at all. What I do remember is Tyson ducking Holyfield. Going into the fight, the winner of Holyfield vs. Dokes was supposed to get a title shot against Tyson. After Holyfield won, all sorts of excuses were made, and the loser- Dokes- was signed to fight Tyson.
There were a lot of legitimate concerns about Foreman's comeback.
I can't see how that's a bad bet unless it's totally orchestrated.
Im thinking about loading up on this bet assuming I can find it at multiple places.
Quote: AxelWolfWill the fight go to the distance? I got the NO at -225 it is now at -227, I only got down a few hundred so far.
I can't see how that's a bad bet unless it's totally orchestrated.
Im thinking about loading up on this bet assuming I can find it at multiple places.
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As far as orchestrated, a fight can be completely clean, but you still have to worry about some funky-ass judging.
That shouldn't affect if it goes the distance or not.Quote: rxwineQuote: AxelWolfWill the fight go to the distance? I got the NO at -225 it is now at -227, I only got down a few hundred so far.
I can't see how that's a bad bet unless it's totally orchestrated.
Im thinking about loading up on this bet assuming I can find it at multiple places.
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As far as orchestrated, a fight can be completely clean, but you still have to worry about some funky-ass judging.
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The shenanigans I would be worried about is a situation where the two fighters have conspired to make sure the fans are getting their money's worth I.E. making it go the distance for a rematch, future promotions, or for whatever other financial reasons.
If this turns out to be a really good match, they both stand to make a lot more money in the long run.
I wouldn't put it past Jake Paul to let Mike Tyson win since that would be super huge for everyone involved, including the fans.
I am probably overthinking it.Quote: rawtuffThat's the overwhelming logic, yes, but it's quite possible for Paul to hold back a lot out of respect for Tyson and let the match go to the distance like a regular exhibition fight often times does. 8 rounds at 2 minutes each is already a red flag for a serious bet on the no for 'to go to the distance'.
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I do not even know why I think there is some significant value to be had somewhere in this fight. It may end up being one of my biggest single-betting situations of the year.
Quote: AxelWolfI am probably overthinking it.Quote: rawtuffThat's the overwhelming logic, yes, but it's quite possible for Paul to hold back a lot out of respect for Tyson and let the match go to the distance like a regular exhibition fight often times does. 8 rounds at 2 minutes each is already a red flag for a serious bet on the no for 'to go to the distance'.
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I do not even know why I think there is some significant value to be had somewhere in this fight. It may end up being one of my biggest single-betting situations of the year.
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Save your money for Wrestlemania.
I would expect Tyson to have slower reflexes. You could probably judge that from video.
Basketball players fake fouls all the time, but I don't think it looks very convincing usually when they fall.
Quote: terapinedQuote: AutomaticMonkeyI think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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Saw this today
I doubt there is any gas left in the tank
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He could be a Vinny Testeverde and be a 3rd string QB for 10yrs.
Vinny made like $1M year being a bench warmer after his QB days as a starter were over.
Quote: Archvaldor1Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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I can recall exactly the same argument being made to prevent the Holyfield-Tyson match-up decades back. People were seriously concerned Tyson would literally kill Holyfied.
Holyfield won. So did George Foreman when he was two years older, in worse shape, against an actual boxing world champion.
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yeah, WTF in fat Foreman winning the belt again in his 50s?!?
Did the champ at that time not look at the tapes of Foreman's previous 2 fights as an old man?
He used the same crab style of boxing
Quote: FinsRuleQuote: AxelWolfSo you are taking the under?Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting./link]
I watched some of his training and he looks really good.
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2 minute rounds. I’m taking the over.
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Won't shorter rounds help the guy in worse shape because he gets to rest faster?
(I'm thinking a pro boxer in his 20s has better cardio than a 58yr old)
Quote: rxwineQuote: AxelWolfWill the fight go to the distance? I got the NO at -225 it is now at -227, I only got down a few hundred so far.
I can't see how that's a bad bet unless it's totally orchestrated.
Im thinking about loading up on this bet assuming I can find it at multiple places.
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As far as orchestrated, a fight can be completely clean, but you still have to worry about some funky-ass judging.
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Thought exhibition match so no judges? It's either knockout or tie if it goes the distance
But
Bars and restaurants with DirecTV have been authorized to show the full fight card
Quote: rxwineStudies have shown men can keep in better shape than people used to think. Into their 70’s. Probably early 70’s. Just sayin’
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"In shape," but not competitively. Up at an elite level that last couple of percent of ability is the difference between being the champion and not being even a contender.
Whether Tyson can get fight fit I tend to doubt: he's been a shot fighter for a long time now. The end of his career was an embarrassment. Additionally his edge came from cumulative punches rather than single hits which tends to be something which fades faster in age. But we'll see. It would be very satisfying to see him knock Paul down.
Quote: Archvaldor1When I was young man there were many men who lived to 70's but they were wheezing and in terrible shape. Nowadays you see guys in excellent shape that old that can pass for their late 40's. It can be done.
Whether Tyson can get fight fit I tend to doubt: he's been a shot fighter for a long time now. The end of his career was an embarrassment. Additionally his edge came from cumulative punches rather than single hits which tends to be something which fades faster in age. But we'll see. It would be very satisfying to see him knock Paul down.
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Jake Paul beat Nate Diaz
Diaz was recently retired from MMA in his late 30's
Tyson is an old man
No contest
Quote: terapinedQuote: Archvaldor1When I was young man there were many men who lived to 70's but they were wheezing and in terrible shape. Nowadays you see guys in excellent shape that old that can pass for their late 40's. It can be done.
Whether Tyson can get fight fit I tend to doubt: he's been a shot fighter for a long time now. The end of his career was an embarrassment. Additionally his edge came from cumulative punches rather than single hits which tends to be something which fades faster in age. But we'll see. It would be very satisfying to see him knock Paul down.
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Jake Paul beat Nate Diaz
Diaz was recently retired from MMA in his late 30's
Tyson is an old man
No contest
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Diaz was not a boxer.
Quote: FinsRuleThis is an official fight. Not exhibition.
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oh wow! this changes things.
so no headgear.
tyson will lose.
a 58yr old isnt going to be able to take shots to the head as well as someone in his 20s.
And being a pro fight, there will be a winner so less chance of them playing patty cake with their hands to go the distance for a tie so fans get their $ worth.
(ie: tyson vs roy jones fight was exhibition)
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: rxwineStudies have shown men can keep in better shape than people used to think. Into their 70’s. Probably early 70’s. Just sayin’
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"In shape," but not competitively. Up at an elite level that last couple of percent of ability is the difference between being the champion and not being even a contender.
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Well, if I was 70, I wouldn't fight anyone under 65.
Quote: rxwineQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: rxwineStudies have shown men can keep in better shape than people used to think. Into their 70’s. Probably early 70’s. Just sayin’
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"In shape," but not competitively. Up at an elite level that last couple of percent of ability is the difference between being the champion and not being even a contender.
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Well, if I was 70, I wouldn't fight anyone under 65.
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I am 58 and probably couldn't beat anyone under 75 in a fight.
Paul Decision: 19%
Paul TKO: 27%
Draw: 16%
Tyson TKO: 35%
Tyson Decision 3%
With 2 minute rounds and 14 ounce gloves hard to believe Texas commission sanctioned this as a professional bout and not an exhibition.
I will follow AxelWolf and go with the under.
If your watching check out local rising star and NiaFalls kid the "Prince": Undefeated lightweight Lucas “Prince” Bahdi (17-0, 15 KOs) will face veteran Corey “2Smoove” Marksman (10-0-1, 7 KOs) in a 10-round lightweight bout.
I also think Bruce "Shu Shu" Carrington will win his bout on this card.
Quote: Jimmy2TimesHere is how the Box-Rec crew sees the bout (based on 31 votes):
Paul Decision: 19%
Paul TKO: 27%
Draw: 16%
Tyson TKO: 35%
Tyson Decision 3%
With 2 minute rounds and 14 ounce gloves hard to believe Texas commission sanctioned this as a professional bout and not an exhibition.
I will follow AxelWolf and go with the under.
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Yeah, 2min rounds and only 8rounds for a pro fight?!?
I thought pro fights were 3min rounds with 12 or 15 rounds?
Is 14oz gloves light or heavy for a pro fight?
As for going the distance, I would do the over since it's only 8 short rounds. If Tyson is in trouble, he could just clinch which will eat a lot of time relative to 2min.
I assume during sparring that Tyson could handle head shots?
Hate to see a tko with the 1st hard punch to the head by Jake.
That would tarnish Tyson's legacy.
Gloves for pro bouts are 8 ounce and occassionaly12 ounces with 8 ounce most commonly used today. The 14 ounce gloves are what are used in sparring.
Just for clarification the under I believe is 5 1/2 -110 whereas the >Will Not Go The Distance< is the entire eight rounds at -227.Quote: Jimmy2TimesHere is how the Box-Rec crew sees the bout (based on 31 votes):
Paul Decision: 19%
Paul TKO: 27%
Draw: 16%
Tyson TKO: 35%
Tyson Decision 3%
With 2 minute rounds and 14 ounce gloves hard to believe Texas commission sanctioned this as a professional bout and not an exhibition.
I will follow AxelWolf and go with the under.
If your watching check out local rising star and NiaFalls kid the "Prince": Undefeated lightweight Lucas “Prince” Bahdi (17-0, 15 KOs) will face veteran Corey “2Smoove” Marksman (10-0-1, 7 KOs) in a 10-round lightweight bout.
I also think Bruce "Shu Shu" Carrington will win his bout on this card.
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