Evenbob's Roulette Thread
November 3rd, 2023 at 4:23:43 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfI do remember you saying that. You 100% said it.
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You're playing some kind of a game here, either that or you have a medical problem you need to have looked at. It's like you keep asking me the same questions over and over and over and over and over hoping I'm going to give different answers so then you can say GOTCHA! It's either that, or you're living in an alternate reality where what you read is processed wrong. Either way I don't have time for this anymore, there's no end to it with you. Do you even realize how many times you've asked me this one specific question. And how many times I've answered it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 4th, 2023 at 11:22:36 PM
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I never heard of this guy and he could be totally full of crap for all I know, I find it hard to believe that somebody who looks like this and talks like he does got banned in Vegas for winning too much. What I am intrigued by is something he said in this video at minute 11 for about 60 seconds.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 5th, 2023 at 1:07:49 AM
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I like his story how he started with $200 at BJ and ran that up to $5K at $25/hand (he probably used a progression there), then turned $5K into $13K, then turned $13K into $26K, then turned $26K into $125K, then went to another casino and negotiated higher limits and turned $125K into $350K then turned the $350K into $800K.
So that's 6 sessions in succession. He seems to be good at doubling, tripling or quintupling his buy-ins, and don't forget his first session where he won to 25X his buy-in.
His challenge for the interviewer was to quintuple the buy-in of $500 to $2500. Mikki said it could go to $0 or to $2500, there's half a chance of either.
The problem with gamblers that I think he's alluding to is that people keep coming back and the house edge eats them alive eventually. If you win big before that happens, you'll be in the clear. With real world inflation the way it is nowadays, what kind of bankroll do you need, how much do you need to win each year, and what casinos will not kick you out for winning that much. I guess you've got to go to Vegas to find out because most every casino in small town USA is gonna kick you out for winning too much way before you win a million bucks a year from them, much less a million bucks a week.
So that's 6 sessions in succession. He seems to be good at doubling, tripling or quintupling his buy-ins, and don't forget his first session where he won to 25X his buy-in.
His challenge for the interviewer was to quintuple the buy-in of $500 to $2500. Mikki said it could go to $0 or to $2500, there's half a chance of either.
The problem with gamblers that I think he's alluding to is that people keep coming back and the house edge eats them alive eventually. If you win big before that happens, you'll be in the clear. With real world inflation the way it is nowadays, what kind of bankroll do you need, how much do you need to win each year, and what casinos will not kick you out for winning that much. I guess you've got to go to Vegas to find out because most every casino in small town USA is gonna kick you out for winning too much way before you win a million bucks a year from them, much less a million bucks a week.
November 5th, 2023 at 10:38:03 AM
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Quote: ChumpChangeI guess you've got to go to Vegas to find out because most every casino in small town USA is gonna kick you out for winning too much way before you win a million bucks a year from them, much less a million bucks a week.
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They will kick you out if they think you can win a lot, you don't even have to do it. If they consider you a threat they're going to get rid of you. They've experienced too many times where they didn't do that and then they regretted it. Indian casinos are hugely competitive because they're all competing for a fixed number of players. It's not like Vegas where you got millions of tourists wandering around, the Indian casinos get 99% of their business from people who live in their area. So they are always sweating the bottom line.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 6th, 2023 at 7:44:54 AM
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It's interesting that in the states where online casinos are legal most of the lawsuits come from players making bets on sports in large amounts like $5,000 and $10,000 and at the last minute there's a glitch and their winning bet is canceled. There's never a glitch when it's a losing bet only one is going to be a winner. So there's class action lawsuits in several States against these casinos because obviously they're doing something. I see very few lawsuits from people getting non-payment I haven't found any lawsuits from people getting banned. Not yet anyway.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 6th, 2023 at 1:31:06 PM
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I'm going to try something new. I'm going to flat bet but I'm changing my game. I'm going to start off betting $20 and the next session I'm going to take half my win and bet $30. The session after that I'll take half my win and bet $45. Next session after that I'll round it up to $70. Next session after that I'll bet a $105. And so on. I say it's flat betting because if I lose I will continue betting the same amount until I win the session. I'm only upping the amount for a new session. I'm going to do this for 2 weeks and I haven't done the math yet to see how much I will have at the end of 2 weeks. Of course this is winning every session but that's what I do. If I didn't win every session I wouldn't play. I know that sounds kind of ridiculous but I look at playing the same way I look at having a job. When I work for a day I get paid for that day or I don't work. When I was in the antique business if I bought items for $500 I knew for a fact I was going to sell them for $1,500 or I wouldn't buy them. Likewise I have to know I'm going to win every session when I play or I can't play because I'm not a gambler. This is what I've been working towards all these years, I'm not a risk taker. I think that's something you're born with, or something you learn at an early age and I never learned how to do that. Playing this way I'll always be risking the money I won and not any money of my own. It's a form of the parlay which is the oldest known bet in roulette.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 7th, 2023 at 9:19:12 AM
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Quote: EvenBobI'm going to try something new. I'm going to flat bet but I'm changing my game. I'm going to start off betting $20 and the next session I'm going to take half my win and bet $30. The session after that I'll take half my win and bet $45. Next session after that I'll round it up to $70. Next session after that I'll bet a $105. And so on. I say it's flat betting because if I lose I will continue betting the same amount until I win the session. I'm only upping the amount for a new session. I'm going to do this for 2 weeks and I haven't done the math yet to see how much I will have at the end of 2 weeks. Of course this is winning every session but that's what I do. If I didn't win every session I wouldn't play. I know that sounds kind of ridiculous but I look at playing the same way I look at having a job. When I work for a day I get paid for that day or I don't work. When I was in the antique business if I bought items for $500 I knew for a fact I was going to sell them for $1,500 or I wouldn't buy them. Likewise I have to know I'm going to win every session when I play or I can't play because I'm not a gambler. This is what I've been working towards all these years, I'm not a risk taker. I think that's something you're born with, or something you learn at an early age and I never learned how to do that. Playing this way I'll always be risking the money I won and not any money of my own. It's a form of the parlay which is the oldest known bet in roulette.
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I'm going to choose the casino I do my sessions at randomly every time just so I set up no pattern. I'm going to be playing half a dozen casinos so I have my 18-in plastic roulette wheel broken up into six sections and each section represents a casino. Many people here would remember from my old days I had a full size roulette wheel for a while but I got rid of it. I had the neighbor girl to spin it for me and I paid her and man that I take a lot of flack for that. Lol
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 7:51:32 AM
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Broke my own rule, don't play when you're tired. I'm playing two sessions a day and increasing my bet by taking 50% of my last win and adding it to my last bet. Last night I was tired and I should not have played and because it was not playing my game I lost my first bet and then I got a zero. For the next 20 minutes I could not win two in a row but I soldiered on and I eventually won my one unit. If I hadn't been tired I would have seen immediately that I should not be betting. This gives me a clue when this happens to what regular people see when they play roulette. To them it's all confusing, to them it's all a complete mystery. To me it's not a mystery at all, I knew exactly why I was losing, well I wasn't actually losing I was holding my own, but I knew exactly why it was happening and I just hung in there knowing that I would eventually win the session. I really don't think it's possible for me to lose because my ability to break even constantly is amazing.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 9:24:05 AM
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if you lose all 20 do you raise your bet next trip or just stick to same 1-2 units … also how often do you lose all 20 thanks in advance
November 8th, 2023 at 11:47:43 AM
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Quote: johnnydepzif you lose all 20 do you raise your bet next trip or just stick to same 1-2 units … also how often do you lose all 20 thanks in advance
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I never lose all 20 units if that's my starting bankroll because I never lose a session. I only play when I know I can win, or at least have a chance of winning a unit if I lose my first bet. I know that sounds strange but that's the way it is I've been doing this for a really long time and that's always been my goal to get so good at it that I never lose a session. So that means there are times when I see nothing to bet on but that's fine, that's part of my edge.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 1:40:24 PM
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In today's afternoon session I was writing down the outcomes like I always do and as I'm writing them down I see a bet so I jump in and make it. Turns out I was right but in my haste I didn't add 50% of my last bet to this one so the amount I bet was the same as my last one. No big deal, but that's what happens when you're in a hurry. Every time I win on the first bet I play virtually for five or six more to see what my recovery would have been if I got the first one wrong. Today's recovery would have been awful, there was no recovery it was just like last night win lose win lose win lose. So I have to surmise that me jumping in like that and making the bet was luck. There was no skill involved. But that happens sometimes we can all use some luck. With these two sessions back to back this might be the start of the Global Effect, where it just goes bad on all my roulette wheels for a while. We will see.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 1:59:32 PM
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do you do a virtual win before you place a bet and if you don’t and you lose, do you do a virtual but after that?
November 8th, 2023 at 2:48:21 PM
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Bob, I'm a little confused. Feel free to correct me as I can't remember 100%, but didn't you start a poll asking if we wanted your roulette thread/talk shut down? I thought you weren't even playing roulette anymore and you were now playing Baccarat. You had 2 thread's shut down, only to talk about roulette on this thread. You are hijacking this thread. Isn't this thread about how risk adverse people are?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 8th, 2023 at 3:30:53 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfBob, I'm a little confused. Feel free to correct me as I can't remember 100%, but didn't you start a poll asking if we wanted your roulette thread/talk shut down? I thought you weren't even playing roulette anymore and you were now playing Baccarat. You had 2 thread's shut down, only to talk about roulette on this thread. You are hijacking this thread. Isn't this thread about how risk adverse people are?
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That was another roulette thread, as you well know. I'm always playing around with Baccarat but I would never quit playing roulette because I can't make any real money at Baccarat it's just not enough information. I wish I could cuz I really like that game. I'm talking about Roulette in this thread because the former owner of wov told me I can't start any more roulette threads I can only talk about it in a thread that I started myself formerly. So I chose this one but I asked permission first. I was told it was fine as long as I'm not starting a new roulette thread.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 3:38:50 PM
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Quote: johnnydepzdo you do a virtual win before you place a bet and if you don’t and you lose, do you do a virtual but after that?
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I almost always virtually bet to see if the outcomes are playing my game. I didn't do that earlier today and just got lucky because if I had virtually bet I wouldn't have bet at all. And yes if I lose the first bet I will then virtually bet to see how it's going. If it's not doing well I will switch to another wheel. It usually takes me only two or three bets to recover and if it takes longer I just keep playing till I make one unit. Always flat betting when I'm playing for real money. The only time I would ever use a progression is if I'm just playing around on a penny roulette wheel for literally pennies. For entertainment. But using a progression when you're playing for real money iis way too dangerous cuz you can get in over your head no matter how good you think you are.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 4:27:47 PM
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are your play only black or red? If so, you should definitely only be playing bac way better odds not even close I can’t believe their actual people in this world who play any other games besides baccarat by far best odds
November 8th, 2023 at 4:46:30 PM
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Quote: johnnydepzare your play only black or red? If so, you should definitely only be playing bac way better odds not even close I can’t believe their actual people in this world who play any other games besides baccarat by far best odds
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I play all three even chances, black red, odd even, high low. I also make up my own even chance bets using the streets and double streets. I have far more streams of information to choose from then you do in Baccarat. In baccarat you have one stream of information, banker and player. You have other so-called streets but they're just derivations of banker and player, they don't really mean anything. I played baccarat many times but the winning is very uneven and it's very easy to lose a session. With roulette I make money every time I play. I'm only looking to make one unit, but that unit can be any dollar size that I want. My goal is always to make my bet, quit, and leave the session. I have no desire to sit there and play play play. That's for hardcore gamblers of which I am not. I'm only in it for the money. If you're in it to have fun, to have a good time, my method is not for you. This is just a job, a money making job like any other job.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 5:01:13 PM
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I would love to learn, so basically you are just looking for different kind of trends and what is the most you’ve ever gone down before making your unit? How many units do you play with?
November 8th, 2023 at 5:32:45 PM
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But why did you have your other roulette threads shut down? I thought it was because you weren't going to talk about roulette anymore. So why are we talking about roulette?Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfBob, I'm a little confused. Feel free to correct me as I can't remember 100%, but didn't you start a poll asking if we wanted your roulette thread/talk shut down? I thought you weren't even playing roulette anymore and you were now playing Baccarat. You had 2 thread's shut down, only to talk about roulette on this thread. You are hijacking this thread. Isn't this thread about how risk adverse people are?
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That was another roulette thread, as you well know. I'm always playing around with Baccarat but I would never quit playing roulette because I can't make any real money at Baccarat it's just not enough information. I wish I could cuz I really like that game. I'm talking about Roulette in this thread because the former owner of wov told me I can't start any more roulette threads I can only talk about it in a thread that I started myself formerly. So I chose this one but I asked permission first. I was told it was fine as long as I'm not starting a new roulette thread.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 8th, 2023 at 5:35:20 PM
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why do you care bro your like obsessed grow up
November 8th, 2023 at 5:54:08 PM
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I'm not your bro. What you said to me is definitely suspension-worthy.Quote: johnnydepzwhy do you care bro your like obsessed grow up
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Me and Bob have been going back and forth for years same crap different day. Who really cares?
It seems odd to me why you would care if I care one way or the other.
To be honest your entire account seems odd to me, especially given what threads you've posted in.
Feel free to block or just ignore me, problem solved.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 8th, 2023 at 5:56:46 PM
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Quote: johnnydepzwhy do you care bro your like obsessed grow up
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Let's call that 3 days for personal insult.
May the cards fall in your favor.
November 8th, 2023 at 5:58:32 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfBut why did you have your other roulette threads shut down? ,
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Because they were out of control, because it was just a contest to see who could pile on me the most and I got tired of it. Ask either Gordon or Dieter and they will tell you why I asked to have those shut down. So I waited a while and started another one and the same thing happened. With this thread I just said screw it I'm going to let it go, and finally everybody got tired of it and they're leaving me alone. Everybody got tired of repeating the same crap over and over and over like nobody had ever heard it before. Which is fine with me I don't like answering all that nonsense everyday because it never changes. This is fine now that it's being mostly ignored.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 6:02:15 PM
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Quote: johnnydepzI would love to learn, so basically you are just looking for different kind of trends and what is the most you’ve ever gone down before making your unit? How many units do you play with?
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The way I play now I never go down cuz I'm only trying to make one unit so I'm always really close to even if I lose the first bet. If you have other questions when you come back after you're suspended I will answer them for you.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 6:18:45 PM
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Quote: johnnydepzwhy do you care bro your like obsessed grow up
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He cares because he's doing the lords work here.
For the record I consider Bob a frenemy.😊 Axels just having fun it's not serious.
November 8th, 2023 at 6:23:47 PM
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Quote: rainman
He cares because he's doing the lords work here.
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If that's the Lord's work what would the devil's work be exactly..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 6:58:57 PM
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Tonight's session first bet was correct if I'd been wrong it would have taken seven bets to win again. There's a definite pattern here, the Global Effect is looming. I've been wondering where it is because it's been a while. I'm spoiled, I always want the 'best of it' as the old players used to say. I hate having to work for it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 8th, 2023 at 7:41:15 PM
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EvenBob "Here's the deal. If there is a consensus (a generally accepted decision among a group of people) that I should keep going in the roulette thread please make your choice known in this poll. I will abide by whatever the decision is, but it has to be a majority decision. In order for the poll to be legitimate there has to be a minimum of 25 votes. If the result is for me to stop talking about roulette then the roulette thread will be closed as well as this thread."
So basically you're seeking a loophole dishonoring an agreement you made( If the result is for me to stop talking about roulette) by using a loophole and just continuing in a different thread.
Why are you talking about roulette if you shouldn't be?
So basically you're seeking a loophole dishonoring an agreement you made( If the result is for me to stop talking about roulette) by using a loophole and just continuing in a different thread.
Why are you talking about roulette if you shouldn't be?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 8th, 2023 at 9:11:19 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfEvenBob "Here's the deal. If there is a consensus (a generally accepted decision among a group of people) that I should keep going in the roulette thread please make your choice known in this poll. I will abide by whatever the decision is, but it has to be a majority decision. In order for the poll to be legitimate there has to be a minimum of 25 votes. If the result is for me to stop talking about roulette then the roulette thread will be closed as well as this thread."
So basically you're seeking a loophole dishonoring an agreement you made( If the result is for me to stop talking about roulette) by using a loophole and just continuing in a different thread.
Why are you talking about roulette if you shouldn't be?
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LOL! Look around, what do you see. Do you see a courtroom? Do you see a church with the congregation? Do you see somebody running for political office? What you see here is something called 'social media'.
"Social media refers to online platforms that enable users to create, share,
and exchange information, ideas, and content in virtual communities and
networks. These platforms often allow users to connect with others and
engage in real-time communication."
This is what we used to call in the early days of the internet, a chat room. Where people get together, they often don't use their real names, and they casually chat about different things. It's a new version of the Town Square. The rules are very flexible, you can't use foul language or call people names, you have to be civil to each other, it's a place where you engage in casual conversation. It's not a place where you go up to somebody and say, Mr Smith, I have it recorded here that 6 months ago you said this in the Town Square, but today you said something else. Can you please explain yourself? This is social media where people can basically say what they like within certain boundaries and if you don't like it, you don't have to read it. You can block it, you can ignore it. If you don't like the way I do things, the solution is so simple. Constantly asking me to explain myself to you is ridiculous. Who put you in charge of anything. Wizard of Vegas is a social media platform, with people who use a lot of fake names and spout their opinions. Quit acting like it's the New York Times where every column is subject to a fact check. I do what I do and if you don't like it, oh well.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 9th, 2023 at 10:18:41 AM
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First session of the day went good, but again if I had not gotten it right on the first bet recovery would have taken awhile. Sometimes there's a very thin line between luck and skill. I think it was luck that I got it right on the first bet but it would have been skill to recover from it. I'll take the luck any day, LOL.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 10th, 2023 at 6:39:25 PM
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Only had time for one session today but it was okay. The first bet was a win, and virtual after that was good. The bet is increasing every day and I'm wondering when it's going to start making me nervous. It should not but it's human nature. I remember a book I read about 15 years ago a card counter in Las Vegas had been doing red chips for about a year and a half and he wanted to switch to green but it took him six or eight months to work up the guts to do it because he had convinced himself that going to green was going to change everything. So he finally did it and of course it changed nothing. I know that no matter how high my bet goes as long as I have the correct bank behind it it's not going to be any different than playing the minimum bet. It's a subconscious thing, just like that guy going from red to green.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 11th, 2023 at 8:17:41 PM
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Played one session got one unit slam bam thank you ma'am. The funny thing is way back when I first started doing this right at the beginning I remember thinking, the ideal way to play would be instead of all this sitting and playing just bet once for the amount you want to make, get your money and leave. At the time I thought no way, and it took me 16 or 17 years to get there. I wasn't trying to get there, it just came down to being the only logical way to play. Why do anymore than you absolutely have to do. If you have a goal and you make it with one win why would you go on. To do so would mean you're greedy and you have a gambling problem. It's exactly like hunting for dinner. Your goal is to go into the woods shoot something for dinner and go home. If you did that, and then you shot two or three other animals just for the heck of it, you've got a problem.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 11th, 2023 at 11:19:30 PM
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I saw one poster elsewhere that said he just goes to play craps to win $5K to $9K per day. I'll have to think long and hard about doing that instead of winning 10X that amount in a day and getting permabanned from playing craps by the casino.
November 12th, 2023 at 9:55:48 AM
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???Quote: ChumpChangeI saw one poster elsewhere that said he just goes to play craps to win $5K to $9K per day. I'll have to think long and hard about doing that instead of winning 10X that amount in a day and getting permabanned from playing craps by the casino.
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Only a few idiot pit bosses are going to ban legit craps players just for winning. I guess they might back someome off while they have surveillance checks to make sure they are not cheating somehow. If you can make 5k-9k a day playing craps who cares if a few places ban you, there are soo many places to play craps.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 13th, 2023 at 7:13:38 AM
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question if you lose the 1st you wait for how many vertual wins to place the next wager and do you think this can work with back or only rulette
November 13th, 2023 at 10:21:44 AM
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Quote: johnnydepzquestion if you lose the 1st you wait for how many vertual wins to place the next wager and do you think this can work with back or only rulette
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Bob is suspended so I’ll try and make a guess as to how he might answer….
I rarely ever lose the first wager, but in that extremely unlikely event I’ll find a wheel ‘that is playing my game’. Then I’ll make ‘a non random bet’ against the ‘random outcome’ but not using a progression. You see, I don’t gamble; I’ll only make the bet when it will hit 80% of the time. But I won’t bet more than $1 because I don’t want to be banned from the casino like would happen if I won $2 on consecutive days. My system works for all games, but is better at roulette than baccarat because I have more useless information available to me in roulette. In roulette, I can ignore the green numbers. There are no green numbers in baccarat for me to ignore.
Two decades of posts like that!!! TWO DECADES! To resume tomorrow when his suspension is over.
November 13th, 2023 at 11:36:48 AM
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i think you got this guy all wrong i really think he knows his stuff and your dead wrong about him
November 14th, 2023 at 7:27:27 PM
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People who really know their stuff don't sit around making poverty-level income.Quote: johnnydepzi think you got this guy all wrong i really think he knows his stuff and your dead wrong about him
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As Judge Judy would say, if it doesn't make sense, it's probably not true.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 15th, 2023 at 7:23:40 AM
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Quote: johnnydepzquestion if you lose the 1st you wait for how many vertual wins to place the next wager and do you think this can work with back or only rulette
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Because I'm already betting virtually before I made my first bet, if it loses I can often bet again right away. If I don't think it looks good I'll just start over and wait for another opportunity. This is a method which means you make decisions as you go along nothing is written in stone there are no rules. You have to be aware all the time what's happening with the unfolding outcomes. Baccarat is different because it only has one stream of information that you're stuck with. For it to work with baccarat everything has to be going extremely well. It has to be playing your game a lot.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 15th, 2023 at 7:27:07 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: johnnydepzquestion if you lose the 1st you wait for how many vertual wins to place the next wager and do you think this can work with back or only rulette
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Bob is suspended so I’ll try and make a guess as to how he might answer….
I rarely ever lose the first wager, but in that extremely unlikely event I’ll find a wheel ‘that is playing my game’. Then I’ll make ‘a non random bet’ against the ‘random outcome’ but not using a progression. You see, I don’t gamble; I’ll only make the bet when it will hit 80% of the time. But I won’t bet more than $1 because I don’t want to be banned from the casino like would happen if I won $2 on consecutive days. My system works for all games, but is better at roulette than baccarat because I have more useless information available to me in roulette. In roulette, I can ignore the green numbers. There are no green numbers in baccarat for me to ignore.
Two decades of posts like that!!! TWO DECADES! To resume tomorrow when his suspension is over.
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You forgot to mention that I pay my bills with my roulette winnings.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 15th, 2023 at 7:29:17 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfPeople who really know their stuff don't sit around making poverty-level income.Quote: johnnydepzi think you got this guy all wrong i really think he knows his stuff and your dead wrong about him
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No, they go where the real money is. Buying things for $1.25 at Dollar Tree and returning them to Walmart for $1.75. These are the true AP players, you can learn a lot from them.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 15th, 2023 at 9:26:44 AM
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Someone asked about NON gambling situtions.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfPeople who really know their stuff don't sit around making poverty-level income.Quote: johnnydepzi think you got this guy all wrong i really think he knows his stuff and your dead wrong about him
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No, they go where the real money is. Buying things for $1.25 at Dollar Tree and returning them to Walmart for $1.75. These are the true AP players, you can learn a lot from them.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 15th, 2023 at 12:22:39 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: SOOPOOQuote: johnnydepzquestion if you lose the 1st you wait for how many vertual wins to place the next wager and do you think this can work with back or only rulette
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Bob is suspended so I’ll try and make a guess as to how he might answer….
I rarely ever lose the first wager, but in that extremely unlikely event I’ll find a wheel ‘that is playing my game’. Then I’ll make ‘a non random bet’ against the ‘random outcome’ but not using a progression. You see, I don’t gamble; I’ll only make the bet when it will hit 80% of the time. But I won’t bet more than $1 because I don’t want to be banned from the casino like would happen if I won $2 on consecutive days. My system works for all games, but is better at roulette than baccarat because I have more useless information available to me in roulette. In roulette, I can ignore the green numbers. There are no green numbers in baccarat for me to ignore.
Two decades of posts like that!!! TWO DECADES! To resume tomorrow when his suspension is over.
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You forgot to mention that I pay my bills with my roulette winnings.
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Considering you play for micro stakes would it be accurate to say your bills are micro bills?
November 15th, 2023 at 1:38:16 PM
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I've been occupying myself talking about roulette on another gambling forum for the past 3 days during my vacation. I already have 133 posts there. It's a start..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 15th, 2023 at 8:20:33 PM
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You fooled yourself into thinking that's an actual gambling forum? ROFLMAO!!! Then again, that's not hard to believe considering the fact that you may have possibly fooled yourself into believing you have a winning system/method.Quote: EvenBobI've been occupying myself talking about roulette on another gambling forum for the past 3 days during my vacation. I already have 133 posts there. It's a start..
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Then again, I don't believe that you actually believe. I think you just want us to believe that you believe and for us to believe that you can and do actually beat roulette.
But hey, look on the bright side, you're not even close to the top three most hated or delusional posters there.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 15th, 2023 at 8:43:52 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfYou fooled yourself into thinking that's an actual gambling forum?
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That's all we talked about, what would you call it. A knitting and crochet forum?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 19th, 2023 at 7:16:35 PM
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One thing I really hate about playing online is making mistakes when I bet. They give you so little time to make a bet that making a mistake of where you place it is very easy to do. I just did it tonight, I had three seconds left and I bet in the wrong spot again. I made it right with the next two bets but it really pisses me off when it happens. All the places on the layout where you can bet are very small and you have to be very precise with the cursor. I'm sure this is done on purpose they could make that layout bigger but they choose not to. Some of them are really bad, almost unplayable and I have large 24-in monitors. How you would ever do this on your phone which I know some people do, I shudder to think about it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 21st, 2023 at 9:15:44 AM
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Moving a reply from elsewhere here.
You still don't seem to be able to realize that choosing how to bet has 0 (zero), nada, zilch effect on the HE and on your probability to win your bet. Especially when betting on half the wheel. (If you choose to bet fewer numbers there is a chance you can chance on a bias exhibited by some of the wheel slots by accident; betting half the wheel neglects any and all potential bias it may exhibit, which is all but non-existing on todays online casinos roulette wheels for all intents and purposes anyway.)
You can take all the time in the world to prepare your next wager, come up with the most elaborated method of choosing your next wager and it makes not one iota difference compared to the end result; a wager made by the bettor who stands at the end of the layout and just throws his chips and bets wherever they land stands the same chance of making a +EV bet (wheel/individual slots bias excluded) - zero.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster.
if a player flat bets any even chance (one unit on one even chance) - what is the probability he will be down after a certain number of spins in double zero Roulette
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The first question is, how would he be choosing where to bet. Is he going to be doing the equivalent of standing at the end of the layout and just throwing his chips and betting wherever they land or does he have a specific non-random way of playing. This is the most important question in the whole thing and you conveniently left it out.
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You still don't seem to be able to realize that choosing how to bet has 0 (zero), nada, zilch effect on the HE and on your probability to win your bet. Especially when betting on half the wheel. (If you choose to bet fewer numbers there is a chance you can chance on a bias exhibited by some of the wheel slots by accident; betting half the wheel neglects any and all potential bias it may exhibit, which is all but non-existing on todays online casinos roulette wheels for all intents and purposes anyway.)
You can take all the time in the world to prepare your next wager, come up with the most elaborated method of choosing your next wager and it makes not one iota difference compared to the end result; a wager made by the bettor who stands at the end of the layout and just throws his chips and bets wherever they land stands the same chance of making a +EV bet (wheel/individual slots bias excluded) - zero.
Don't beat yourself up over past mistakes, you are going to f*** up again in the future, quite possibly in the most spectacular fashion, why worry about yesterday's f*** up's when you have tomorrow's f*** up's to look forward to?
You are a f*** up, and f***** up is part of your growth process, embrace the process.
November 21st, 2023 at 12:21:46 PM
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You still don't seem to be able to realize that choosing how to bet has 0 (zero), nada, zilch effect on the HE and on your probability to win your bet.
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It does have an effect on the probability to win your bet if you're betting in a correct non-random manner.
"There are several techniques that can be used to bet non-randomly in the game of roulette.
One common technique is to place bets based on the past results of spins. For example, a player might bet on red after three consecutive black spins, or bet on a number that has not hit in a while.
Here are some examples of betting non-randomly in the game of roulette:
Betting on a specific number or set of numbers after a long streak of different numbers. This is based on the assumption that the roulette wheel is due to hit a certain number or set of numbers soon.
Betting on red or black after a long streak of the opposite color. This is based on the assumption that the roulette wheel is due to switch colors soon.
Using a betting system, such as the D'Alembert system or the Fibonacci system. These systems involve increasing or decreasing the size of your bet based on the results of your previous spins.
These techniques can help you to increase your chances of winning, and to manage your bankroll more effectively." Bard AI
The techniques described above are very crude and will work in a hit and miss way. To gain your own edge requires a huge amount of study and work.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 21st, 2023 at 12:30:01 PM
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Quote: EvenBob[
It does have an effect on the probability to win your bet if you're betting in a correct non-random manner.
If you want to increase the probability of having a winner, just bet red, black, and green and you will have a winner 100% of the time.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
