Is AP'ing worth it anymore?

Quote: AxelWolf

Why are you guys busting on Tony regarding that AP situation? It's absolutely +EV.

It's like getting a 50% loss rebate, that's hugely profitable.

Obviously, it's time-consuming doing 17 trips back, and there is better stuff, but you guys are not looking at it the right way. It's unlikely he is taking full advantage of the true potential or doing it correctly.
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i actually didnt get the full use of the promotion. since i dont have a valid address, i didnt find out til too late and i only got part of the last half of the month. sure wish i couldve done the entire month. but thats actually the 2nd time a casino sent an offer like this. other place was Hollywood st louis for 150 multiple times throughout the month before i got banned at all hollywood properties.

if i knew upfront and had a chance to plan, id book my airbnb in the city which would give me the offer and play there the entire month, (mostly the coupons, and during the rest of the time just play poker, preferably a different casino). but u have no way to know ahead of time which casino will give u a great offer like this and which wont, or u would know exactly where to visit for the sole purpose of playing live BJ

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Quote: sevencard2003

of course u use a card. thats where a big part of the payback comes. for example, go to Ballys shreveport if u have never had a card there before since it changed ownership from the eldorado. lose $5000-6000 and leave, dont come back for months and u might get the same mail offer i did offering $300 free bet 17 times during the month. (that coupon is worth slightly less than half its face value)
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Wow amazing ap play there Tony. Lose $5-6k and get back $5100 in free bets that are worth half their value…
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Lose money on every play, but make it up with volume. That sounds like a plan.
The only thing better than having a plan is having a good one.
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Volume would be great here, you'll get closer to the expected EV on the game and make more money too. Imagine back counting and coming in with a large bet 30 different times and getting 30 different offers @ +EV for each of those bets. Whenever you lose you get back approximately 50%. Whenever you win, you win.

That's not how I would approach this situation, but that's clear and easy to understand.

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of course u use a card. thats where a big part of the payback comes. for example, go to Ballys shreveport if u have never had a card there before since it changed ownership from the eldorado. lose $5000-6000 and leave, dont come back for months and u might get the same mail offer i did offering $300 free bet 17 times during the month. (that coupon is worth slightly less than half its face value)
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Wow amazing ap play there Tony. Lose $5-6k and get back $5100 in free bets that are worth half their value…
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Lose money on every play, but make it up with volume. That sounds like a plan.
The only thing better than having a plan is having a good one.
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Don’t forget the free rooms he gets which make him an overall better winner lol…
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It comes with RFB too? Isn't Tony a nomad, that's a big savings ontop of the +EV. It's looking better and better.

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Quote: AxelWolf

Why are you guys busting on Tony regarding that AP situation? It's absolutely +EV.

It's like getting a 50% loss rebate, that's hugely profitable.

Obviously, it's time-consuming doing 17 trips back, and there is better stuff, but you guys are not looking at it the right way. It's unlikely he is taking full advantage of the true potential or doing it correctly.
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i actually didnt get the full use of the promotion. since i dont have a valid address, i didnt find out til too late and i only got part of the last half of the month. sure wish i couldve done the entire month. but thats actually the 2nd time a casino sent an offer like this. other place was Hollywood st louis for 150 multiple times throughout the month before i got banned at all hollywood properties.

if i knew upfront and had a chance to plan, id book my airbnb in the city which would give me the offer and play there the entire month, (mostly the coupons, and during the rest of the time just play poker, preferably a different casino). but u have no way to know ahead of time which casino will give u a great offer like this and which wont, or u would know exactly where to visit for the sole purpose of playing live BJ
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Dude WTF!!! You haven't figured out how to solve that problem after all these years?
Here are 3 inexpensive options.
1)Get an online P.O. box that will take pictures of your mail/offers when requested and even alert you whenever the mail comes in.
2)Get P.O. box that will forward your mail.
3)Pay A friend who will let you use their address and take pictures of the mail.

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Quote: sevencard2003

Quote: AxelWolf

Why are you guys busting on Tony regarding that AP situation? It's absolutely +EV.

It's like getting a 50% loss rebate, that's hugely profitable.

Obviously, it's time-consuming doing 17 trips back, and there is better stuff, but you guys are not looking at it the right way. It's unlikely he is taking full advantage of the true potential or doing it correctly.
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i actually didnt get the full use of the promotion. since i dont have a valid address, i didnt find out til too late and i only got part of the last half of the month. sure wish i couldve done the entire month. but thats actually the 2nd time a casino sent an offer like this. other place was Hollywood st louis for 150 multiple times throughout the month before i got banned at all hollywood properties.

if i knew upfront and had a chance to plan, id book my airbnb in the city which would give me the offer and play there the entire month, (mostly the coupons, and during the rest of the time just play poker, preferably a different casino). but u have no way to know ahead of time which casino will give u a great offer like this and which wont, or u would know exactly where to visit for the sole purpose of playing live BJ
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Dude WTF!!! You haven't figured out how to solve that problem after all these years?
Here are 3 inexpensive options.
1)Get an online P.O. box that will take pictures of your mail/offers when requested and even alert you whenever the mail comes in.
2)Get P.O. box that will forward your mail.
3)Pay A friend who will let you use their address and take pictures of the mail.
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i have one guy who forwards me pictures of offers, but sometimes the mail gets sent back since im not actually living there and sometimes it gets thru. but usually casinos just copy and paste the address on your ID and u dont even realize its being sent to an adddress u will never get a thing at. i have no idea what most casinos are using for my address. this is why i think casinos should do email instead of PO mail offers. unlike a street address, an email stays with you for LIFE and never changes.

because he took a picture and sent it to me, i found out i get $20 at boomtown slot play every day in March but fridays and i get $40 on fridays. thats 31 different free play offers and ive never got anything near that valuable at boomtown but im not in reno to pick it up and even if i was it costs more to Uber there and back than the 20 or 40 a day is worth. useless unless a local with a car can pick it up

Quote: sevencard2003

because he took a picture and sent it to me, i found out i get $20 at boomtown slot play every day in March but fridays and i get $40 on fridays. thats 31 different free play offers and ive never got anything near that valuable at boomtown but im not in reno to pick it up and even if i was it costs more to Uber there and back than the 20 or 40 a day is worth. useless unless a local with a car can pick it up
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Get a full-service PO box at a location you spend most of your time at and whatever state your ID is from. Have your mailing address added to the ID. Leave off the P.O. Box. IE 2121 Sevencard BLVD #21

Alternatively, get a passport thus forcing them to manually put in whatever address you tell them. That's your best option giving you the freedom to have mail sent wherever you want. You can get a passport ID card that fits in your wallet.

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because he took a picture and sent it to me, i found out i get $20 at boomtown slot play every day in March but fridays and i get $40 on fridays. thats 31 different free play offers and ive never got anything near that valuable at boomtown but im not in reno to pick it up and even if i was it costs more to Uber there and back than the 20 or 40 a day is worth. useless unless a local with a car can pick it up
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Nathan/Karen rides the bus to pick up $5 in FP.

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: sevencard2003

Quote: AxelWolf

Why are you guys busting on Tony regarding that AP situation? It's absolutely +EV.

It's like getting a 50% loss rebate, that's hugely profitable.

Obviously, it's time-consuming doing 17 trips back, and there is better stuff, but you guys are not looking at it the right way. It's unlikely he is taking full advantage of the true potential or doing it correctly.
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i actually didnt get the full use of the promotion. since i dont have a valid address, i didnt find out til too late and i only got part of the last half of the month. sure wish i couldve done the entire month. but thats actually the 2nd time a casino sent an offer like this. other place was Hollywood st louis for 150 multiple times throughout the month before i got banned at all hollywood properties.

if i knew upfront and had a chance to plan, id book my airbnb in the city which would give me the offer and play there the entire month, (mostly the coupons, and during the rest of the time just play poker, preferably a different casino). but u have no way to know ahead of time which casino will give u a great offer like this and which wont, or u would know exactly where to visit for the sole purpose of playing live BJ
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Dude WTF!!! You haven't figured out how to solve that problem after all these years?
Here are 3 inexpensive options.
1)Get an online P.O. box that will take pictures of your mail/offers when requested and even alert you whenever the mail comes in.
2)Get P.O. box that will forward your mail.
3)Pay A friend who will let you use their address and take pictures of the mail.
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How about just logging into your players account online and checking your offers

Why make this hard?

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Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: sevencard2003

Quote: AxelWolf

Why are you guys busting on Tony regarding that AP situation? It's absolutely +EV.

It's like getting a 50% loss rebate, that's hugely profitable.

Obviously, it's time-consuming doing 17 trips back, and there is better stuff, but you guys are not looking at it the right way. It's unlikely he is taking full advantage of the true potential or doing it correctly.
link to original post

i actually didnt get the full use of the promotion. since i dont have a valid address, i didnt find out til too late and i only got part of the last half of the month. sure wish i couldve done the entire month. but thats actually the 2nd time a casino sent an offer like this. other place was Hollywood st louis for 150 multiple times throughout the month before i got banned at all hollywood properties.

if i knew upfront and had a chance to plan, id book my airbnb in the city which would give me the offer and play there the entire month, (mostly the coupons, and during the rest of the time just play poker, preferably a different casino). but u have no way to know ahead of time which casino will give u a great offer like this and which wont, or u would know exactly where to visit for the sole purpose of playing live BJ
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Dude WTF!!! You haven't figured out how to solve that problem after all these years?
Here are 3 inexpensive options.
1)Get an online P.O. box that will take pictures of your mail/offers when requested and even alert you whenever the mail comes in.
2)Get P.O. box that will forward your mail.
3)Pay A friend who will let you use their address and take pictures of the mail.
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How about just logging into your players account online and checking your offers

Why make this hard?
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Not all have that setup and even ones that do oftentimes send out bonus offerings etc via snail mail, ones that don't show up online or come via E-mail.