rxwine
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December 4th, 2010 at 2:08:17 PM permalink
Would you bet lifetime earnings on 5 billion hands of multi-play full pay deuces wild?

5 billion separate poker hands are represented (just like on the 3, 5, 10, 50 and 100 play machines.)

You get the deal and a draw. After that you get to keep the results of your play.

Your lifetime earnings as displayed on this poker machine are divided into the 5 billion hands -- you of course get 4000 units on a royal regardless, even if each hand is representing something odd like .23 cents, because it is to pay at full pay odds.

Fairness is guaranteed.

Your lifetime earnings will be represented on a single TITO. You can then deposit it in the Eternally Big Cash ChangerTM and do with the results as you wish. (Hopefully you won't gamble it away in the casino before you get back to your bank. ;)
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December 4th, 2010 at 2:17:40 PM permalink
I wouldn't, not on a single play - too much variance to risk my lifetime earnings. I would make the bet under the following conditions:
a) It's 5B separate hands, or maybe 500M hands of 10-Play, and
b) I get to use an optimal-strategy auto-hold feature and don't actually have to sit there and play the 5B hands. That'd take forever.
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December 4th, 2010 at 2:25:46 PM permalink
Yes, as a reminder, your "deal" hand would be the same for all hands. So you could start out with the worst hand in DW or the best. That's the risk.
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December 4th, 2010 at 2:26:12 PM permalink
This is another hypothetical, theoretical question that I just can't see what the point of it is. The issue about optimal-auto-hold is key here. No one plays perfectly even after a single hour, no matter how much they rant and rave that they do. And yes mkl, I've seen proof of that.

So how about something from the real world?
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December 4th, 2010 at 2:31:25 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

That'd take forever.



yeah, even on "Turbo" setting, I imagine it would take quite awhile.
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December 4th, 2010 at 3:45:16 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Would you bet lifetime earnings on 5 billion hands of multi-play full pay deuces wild?
5 billion separate poker hands are represented (just like on the 3, 5, 10, 50 and 100 play machines.)
You get the deal and a draw. After that you get to keep the results of your play.
Your lifetime earnings as displayed on this poker machine are divided into the 5 billion hands -- you of course get 4000 units on a royal regardless, even if each hand is representing something odd like .23 cents, because it is to pay at full pay odds.
Fairness is guaranteed.
Your lifetime earnings will be represented on a single TITO. You can then deposit it in the Eternally Big Cash ChangerTM and do with the results as you wish. (Hopefully you won't gamble it away in the casino before you get back to your bank. ;)



It would be +EV, of course, but you lose more than half the hands in FPDW, so I'd only do it if I needed a big double up.

This isn't a lot different from betting it all on ONE hand; you still have to suffer the variance of the dealt hand, which is the single biggest determinant of the final result. You only benefit from the 5 billion hands via the "smoothing out" of results from hands like a 4-card flush or a single deuce, or positive EV hands like 22, 67 suited.
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December 4th, 2010 at 5:02:41 PM permalink
Are we talking about a 5Billion line machine?

1 draw, 5 Billion redraws with my holds?

No I would not play that game.

I also wouldn't bother with 5 billion hands of Deuces wild if each hand was 1/5 billionth of my life time wage. I'd only gain 0.7% on my wages. It's about a 3 month bonus.
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