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3 votes (17.64%)
2 votes (11.76%)
2 votes (11.76%)
7 votes (41.17%)
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USpapergames
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January 2nd, 2021 at 4:11:31 PM permalink
https://youtu.be/OT71hro0Gl0

I don't care about your fear of losing your job over giving your honest opinion, I want to hear some raw feedback of what everyone thinks of the incident.
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USpapergames
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January 2nd, 2021 at 5:27:57 PM permalink
Is someone taking down my thread & if so, why??? This is totally gambling-related material!
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Wizard
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January 2nd, 2021 at 5:50:56 PM permalink
I know two survivors of it.

My vote was only the gunman is at fault. I have reason to believe there was probably a second gunman who got cold feet at the last minute.

I'll allow the thread because it's Vegas related, but will have no compunction to take action if it veers into conspiracy theories.
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USpapergames
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January 2nd, 2021 at 6:07:05 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I know two survivors of it.

My vote was only the gunman is at fault. I have reason to believe there was probably a second gunman who got cold feet at the last minute.

I'll allow the thread because it's Vegas related, but will have no compunction to take action if it veers into conspiracy theories.



Oh wow, no definitely not making any claims to conspiracy theories. I honestly only have an opinion as to whom was at fault. I wasn't there so all I can make an opinion on is the facts.

I'm so sorry for all the people who had to go through that crisis
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January 2nd, 2021 at 6:16:28 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I know two survivors of it.

My vote was only the gunman is at fault. I have reason to believe there was probably a second gunman who got cold feet at the last minute.

I'll allow the thread because it's Vegas related, but will have no compunction to take action if it veers into conspiracy theories.



I would love to know why you think there may have been a second gunman that got cold feet. I haven't heard it even mentioned.
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USpapergames
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January 2nd, 2021 at 6:55:16 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I would love to know why you think there may have been a second gunman that got cold feet. I haven't heard it even mentioned.



I 2nd your comment. I lean more to their just being 1 gunman but again I'm just sticking with the variable facts so I left it open. But when I say responsible, I don't mean directly responsible for the deaths and injuries. Even being partially responsible is being responsible!
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USpapergames
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January 2nd, 2021 at 7:01:26 PM permalink
Omg someone just voted the victims were responsible just like when Mandalay bay Bay sued all the victims for getting shot :'(

That was supposed to be a joke in the poll votes guys!
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January 3rd, 2021 at 1:05:41 AM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Is someone taking down my thread & if so, why??? This is totally gambling-related material!

I took down the duplicate.
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January 3rd, 2021 at 11:57:15 PM permalink
So this discussion is just terrible. Allow me to spice things up.

I could understand not wanting to talk about the casino's blame in all of this. Maybe your a** h*** boss sees your comment and cans you for your opinion. But surely you can give me an opinion on LVPD or the casino's security??? Surely nobody would ever care about an opinion of those individuals (unless somehow they are all connected?). Btw I consider responsibility to be not just for the actions of the people that died that night but also the actions of how the crises was handled as a whole. There is no excuse for having a memorial of the largest shooting in American history 7 miles away from the site of the crime!

As yourself, is it's acceptable for police offices to cower instead of stopping someone from killing people??? Do we not pay law enforcement as an act of civic duty to actively step in the line of fire when necessary??? How many people would still be alive today if LVPD didn't pursue the gunman over 10 minutes sooner??? If you're not saying something about it I'm just going to assume your silence says it's acceptable to you!

Let's talk about the casino security. Do you think it's acceptable to be able to transport DOZENS of FULL-SCALE RIFLES into a casino hotel??? Not only was the security so lax that no room cards were needed to gain access to the elevators but he had a KID do all the transporting of these massive firearms 💪!!! How is a minor allowed to roam free without their parents is a mystery to me, yet allow transporting dozens of firearms??? Does nobody see any issues in the routines & procedures with the casino's security? The sad thing is in the documentary it appears that the contracted security company had warned Mandalay Bay of their flaw elevator security flaw years prior to the incident, so maybe the bulk of the blame should be on the casino? But then again I also believe it was the security companies' responsibility to report any casino security flaws that don't meet (I want to say it's a federal law) federal or state standards? I'm not an expert on this, that's why I posted this question since I want to know what everyone else thinks but nobody wants to open up on the topic :(
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January 4th, 2021 at 8:36:31 AM permalink
Here's an article I wrote a few days after the incident, if you're interested:

https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/las-vegas-shooting/

The article was written prior to the ban on political discussion on the Forums, so please keep that in mind if you want to quote and respond to anything in it in this thread. While I don't blame Mandalay Bay, there are some suggestions for what they (and other public venues) can do in the future that aren't necessarily political in nature.
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