ChumpChange
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November 20th, 2020 at 10:55:45 AM permalink
Is ICE gonna be locking up people for driving while COVID?
Vegasrider
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November 20th, 2020 at 1:47:35 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Again, there are numerous choke points that would shut down the highways. As I mentioned, how many ways are there for New Englanders to cross the Hudson? I can only think of five bridges but there may be another one or two I am forgetting..



Ferry to LI from Bridgeport or New London.
Gabes22
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November 20th, 2020 at 3:22:23 PM permalink
Some state crossings are easier to shutdown than others. Like IL into MO where you have to cross the mighty Mississippi, but where I live 4 miles from the IL/IN border I have 15 border crossings within 15 minutes of me and none spanning a river
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billryan
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November 20th, 2020 at 3:29:25 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Ferry to LI from Bridgeport or New London.



Sure. Now you have to get off Long Island, which puts you in the same situation as before. That's assuming the ferries would be open for non-essential traffic.
Back in the 1970s, they built a nuclear power plant and were starting to build a second on Long Island. Then Three Mile Island happened and it dawned on people that there were about a dozen traffic lanes to evacuate the whole population. The only thing that has changed on LI highways since then is an HOV lane was added.
You'd be better off heading north to Canada.
racquet
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November 20th, 2020 at 3:36:31 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Sure. Now you have to get off Long Island, which puts you in the same situation as before... You'd be better off heading north to Canada.



You need an atlas. It would show clearly that Long Island is part of the state of NY, and that heading north from Long Island you'd need to cross Long Island Sound.

Your idea, I assumed, was to prevent travel across state lines. I'm betting that you didn't do too well in geography class. Good thing you weren't around to advise Columbus. We'd all be speaking Narragansett.
billryan
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November 20th, 2020 at 4:13:50 PM permalink
Quote: racquet

You need an atlas. It would show clearly that Long Island is part of the state of NY, and that heading north from Long Island you'd need to cross Long Island Sound.

Your idea, I assumed, was to prevent travel across state lines. I'm betting that you didn't do too well in geography class. Good thing you weren't around to advise Columbus. We'd all be speaking Narragansett.



I was responding to the suggestion that a New Englander suggesting they could take a ferry to LI as a way of getting out of New England. I've never mentioned closing state borders. I said you can easily restrict traffic on interstates by closing off the choke points. The Hudson River is such a checkpoint. A dozen cops could seal every crossing from NYC to Albany. Come out west and see how few crossings there are on the Colorado. Then you have this giant hole called the Grand Canyon that you can't drive over, under or through. Unlike the metropolitan areas of the NorthEast, there are very few backroads in the west that will get you places. I've tried. I wanted to drive a vehicle from Vegas to Bisbee that had a top speed of forty. Searched for days for such a road. It doesn't exist.
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777
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November 21st, 2020 at 11:53:03 AM permalink
Quote: racquet

Solutions have to be practical, reasonable, and enforceable.



From enforcement perspective, I would say the non-compliance rate on Covid-19 prevention measures/regulations is similar to the non-compliance rate on the speed limit regulations. Despite the very high level difficultly in enforcing Covid-19 and speed limit regulations, both type of regulations had saved many lives. So the enforceability on Covid-19 prevention measures should not be a big concern. The much larger issue is the practicality and reasonableness of Covid-19 prevention measures/regulations when the economy and quality of life are taken into considerations.

Various Covid-19 prevention measures as mask wearing, social distancing, crowd size, movement, self-quarantine/isolation, partial or complete closure can be extremely difficult to enforce, or may not be enforceable in certain locality/situation. But the facts are these measures had demonstrated certain degree of high/medium/low effectiveness in controlling the spread of Covid-19. And the difficultly problem for society is to balance the benefit of controlling Covid-19 spread vs. the adverse impact on the economy and the quality of live.
kewlj
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November 21st, 2020 at 1:15:43 PM permalink
Regarding new shutdowns here in Nevada/Las Vegas, particularly possible casino shutdowns, I am having a hard time getting a read in Governor Sisolak. On November 10 he had a news conference where he asked people to stay at home for two weeks to slow the escalating numbers. But at the very same time, he emphasized that Nevada casinos were open for business and encouraged out of state business, which made no sense.

So fast forward the two weeks is up this Tuesday and they have already announced there is going to be some new restriction, so we are left guessing as to whether that might be bar and restaurants. Or Casinos. Or what.

Personally, I am hoping to avoid another casino shutdown right now for selfish reasons. I have a ton of free play offers for December. Over 5 grand and still waiting on two casino mailers. That is a very high amount for the limited machine play that I do. I didn't particularly play more in September/October which would have generated these higher offers. I think several places have upped their offers in an attempt to get more players in.

So I have had such a lousy year with my blackjack results, up $8800 after being in the red most of the year and have no plans for anymore blackjack play this year, That I would really like to add 5 or 6 grand from this free play to my machine play total. I mean I am not planning on playing anything to generate future offer, I just want to collect my free play for December. I feel I can pop into a casino in the morning hours when they aren't crowded, play a machine away from other patrons, for 5 minutes, collecting my free play, with minimal risk, But the way the year has gone, casinos will shutdown Tuesday and I will lose those free play offers. :/
DRich
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November 21st, 2020 at 1:31:25 PM permalink
I am hoping the casinos will stay open and they restrict eating, drinking, and smoking on the casino floor and require 100% mask use at all times.
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billryan
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November 21st, 2020 at 2:32:01 PM permalink
I'm starting to see more and more of these clear visors similar to motorcycle visors. One of my workers has one you wear around your neck that you can flip up. If I were in a position to have to wear a mask most of the time, I think I'd go that route.

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