When will casinos open?
The British were the largest market for pelts.Quote: billryanThere weren't 100 million natives living in the New World in the Colonial era and it's doubtful many British soldiers ever saw a Buffalo, let alone slaughtered them with black powder single shot muskets.
At that time, the Bison were the largest biomass on the planet, larger than the African water buffalo now.Quote: rxwineI saw that bison skull pile, wow. (next to impossible to believe those animals were even close to being used for anything but massive rot)
Signs in Montana claim one herd was five miles wide and one hundred miles long.
note; of course the buffalo used social distancing
Quote: rxwineSmall casinos can get robbed pretty easily compared to big ones. Like the Longhorn in vegas. It's only 30 steps to cashier's cage. Usually only one security guard. Just sayin' Not sayin' it's a good way to stay free.
Yes, and you could get away with $84 and food stamps.
Quote: DRichYes, and you could get away with $84 and food stamps.
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I'm sure the cash reserve is low, but it's probably a little more than the 7-11 on the corner, which I think has about $100 out of the safe.
Quote: WizardTravelocity is taking Vegas hotel reservations at many properties, including the Venetian, starting May 1.
Quote: billryanThe British barely left the coasts in the hundred and fifty years, give or take a few, they controlled their colonies.
They didn't kill 100 million native Indians. By all accounts, there were more Indians in what would become the USofA in 1783 than there were in 1607. In Canada, the British treated Indians much better than our American government did.
“....The Indians, Columbus reported, “are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they never say no.”…The only gold was bits of dust…So they fled, were hunted down with dogs and were killed…hanged or burned to death….. In 1495, they (Columbus’ expedition) went on a slave raid, rounded up fifteen hundred, two hundred died en route. The rest arrived alive in Spain and were put up for sale by the archdeacon…In two years, through murder, mutilation, or suicide, half of the 250,000 Indians on Haiti were dead…When it became clear that there was no gold left, the Indians were taken as slave labor on huge estates, known later as encomiendas… and died by the thousands.
In Virginia, 1607 , Powhatan addressed a plea to John Smith:
I have seen two generations of my people die….I know the difference between peace and war better than any man in my country. I am now grown old, and must die soon; my authority must descend to my brothers, Opitchapan, Opechancanough and Catatough—then to my two sisters, and to my two daughters. ….and that your love to them may be like mine to you. Why will you take by force what you may have quietly by love? Why will you destroy us who supply you with food? What can you get by war? We can hide our provisions and run into the woods; then you will starve for wronging your friends. Why are you so jealous of us? We are unarmed, and willing to give you what you ask…
John Winthrop declared the area legally a “vacuum.” The Indians, he said, had not “subdued” the land, and therefore had only a “natural” right to it, but not a “civil right.” A “natural right” did not have legal standing.
The Puritans also appealed to Psalms 2:8:”Ask of me, and I shall give thee, the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.” Romans 13:2: “Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.”
The Indians drew 3 lessons from the 1636 Pequot War: (1) that the Englishmen’s most solemn pledge would be broken whenever obligation conflicted with advantage; (2) that the English way of war had no limit of scruple or mercy; and (3) that weapons of Indian making were almost useless against weapons of European manufacture."
A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn.
Even then....True safety won’t happen until we get a vaccine.
Should be interesting. We have to get the economy moving again but there are still BIG roadblocks come May 1. Masks, no smoking, every other slot closed, 3 to table are all likely in play.
Quote: petroglyphThe British were the largest market for pelts.
Not Buffalo pelts. Not a lot of Buffalo east of the Great Plains, even in the 18th century.
Quote: jjjoooggg“....The Indians, Columbus reported, “are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they never say no.”…The only gold was bits of dust…So they fled, were hunted down with dogs and were killed…hanged or burned to death….. In 1495, they (Columbus’ expedition) went on a slave raid, rounded up fifteen hundred, two hundred died en route. The rest arrived alive in Spain and were put up for sale by the archdeacon…In two years, through murder, mutilation, or suicide, half of the 250,000 Indians on Haiti were dead…When it became clear that there was no gold left, the Indians were taken as slave labor on huge estates, known later as encomiendas… and died by the thousands.
In Virginia, 1607 , Powhatan addressed a plea to John Smith:
The Indians drew 3 lessons from the 1636 Pequot War: (1) that the Englishmen’s most solemn pledge would be broken whenever obligation conflicted with advantage; (2) that the English way of war had no limit of scruple or mercy; and (3) that weapons of Indian making were almost useless against weapons of European manufacture."
A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn.
Was Columbus British? I've heard he was Italian, Corsican and even a light skinned African Jew, but never heard him called British.
So the year the English first land in Virginia, an Indian says he has seen them fight for two generations?
Quote: billryanWas Columbus British? I've heard he was Italian, Corsican and even a light skinned African Jew, but never heard him called British.
So the year the English first land in Virginia, an Indian says he has seen them fight for two generations?
If you want to check my source, "A People's history of the United States" is on Kindle. Search key words. All was quoted Word for word from his book. This was the textbook for history at university of Texas in Austin
I don't think that he was implying two generations of fighting. He said he saw his people "die" or pass away naturaly for two generations.
I didn't say that the Spaniard Columbus was British. John Smith and John Winthrop are. USA was under British rule until our independence in 1776.
"For a while, the English tried softer tactics. But ultimately, it was back to annihilation. The Indian population of 10 million that lived north of Mexico when Columbus came would ultimately be reduced to less than a million,"
"A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn.
“ Columbus sent expedition after expedition... they found no gold fields but had to fill up the ships returning to Spain with some kind of dividend. In the year 1495, they went on a great slave raid, rounded up 1500 Arawak ...put them in pens guarded by Spaniards ... 200 died en route. The rest arrived alive in Spain and were put up for sale by the archdeacon” “a peoples history of the united states “ by howard zinn
Now, if you said the Spanish, or even the Europeans killed 100 million, I'd still say you were wrong but were at least in the right ballpark.
Keep in mind that most Native tribes in the East choose to fight for the British against Americans both in the Revolution, and again in 1812.
Quote: TDVegasThe massive contagion issues aren’t going away May 1. I am wondering how they plan to open these venues with contagion still looming large. I have to assume some big societal norms are going to change
If casinos are accepting reservations next month, t expect they will reopen the instant some government authority says it's OK. Like TD, I have wondered about changes casinos might institute when they reopen. Anything might happen.
Roger Snow, SrVP at Scientific Games, has a few suggestions of his own for what might be the New Normal. (He even admits how dumb it will look if he gets it all wrong.) Snow suggests these possibilities:
- Casinos will disinfect (or wash) casino chips.
- Cameras will automatically sense body temperature of guests as they arrive.
- Some dealers and other casino staff will wear masks, possibly with corporate branding. Gamblers may wear "fashion" masks.
- Slots will be positioned to enforce social distancing.
- Buffets will NEVER return to your or any casinos.
According to Snow, this may be your New Normal.
Quote: LuckyPhow
According to Snow, this may be your New Normal.
That actually sounds pretty realistic, even reasonable. The corporate branding on the masks made me laugh, but it's not really funny, I can see it. Thanks for the good post and link.
Quote: LuckyPhowIf casinos are accepting reservations next month, t expect they will reopen the instant some government authority says it's OK. Like TD, I have wondered about changes casinos might institute when they reopen. Anything might happen.
Roger Snow, SrVP at Scientific Games, has a few suggestions of his own for what might be the New Normal. (He even admits how dumb it will look if he gets it all wrong.) Snow suggests these possibilities:
- Casinos will disinfect (or wash) casino chips.
- Cameras will automatically sense body temperature of guests as they arrive.
- Some dealers and other casino staff will wear masks, possibly with corporate branding. Gamblers may wear "fashion" masks.
- Slots will be positioned to enforce social distancing.
- Buffets will NEVER return to your or any casinos.
According to Snow, this may be your New Normal.
Time will tell. The casino environment is very difficult to control and mitigate the spread.
Large groups of people together with transfers of money, transfer of chips, dice, cards, hands on machines, vaping smoke spew, smoke spew, ashes on machines, people moving from machine to machine.
A bit different than 50-100 people sitting in a movie theater and doing nothing but watching a screen and eating their popcorn. Yes, close proximity....but effectively no transfers via the above noted issues.
I’m trying to grasp how we are going to safely open the casino doors....and frankly, I can’t grasp safe. The high contagion is not going away May 1.
Ugly situation. Bring on the vaccine. It’s the only true method to combat the enormous challenges of putting a lot of people together and not having outbreak after outbreak.
Governor Sisolak....as much as he’s trying, probably has no damn clue how to effectively open the doors again.
Quote: TDVegasQuote: LuckyPhowIf casinos are accepting reservations next month, t expect they will reopen the instant some government authority says it's OK. Like TD, I have wondered about changes casinos might institute when they reopen. Anything might happen.
Roger Snow, SrVP at Scientific Games, has a few suggestions of his own for what might be the New Normal. (He even admits how dumb it will look if he gets it all wrong.) Snow suggests these possibilities:
- Casinos will disinfect (or wash) casino chips.
- Cameras will automatically sense body temperature of guests as they arrive.
- Some dealers and other casino staff will wear masks, possibly with corporate branding. Gamblers may wear "fashion" masks.
- Slots will be positioned to enforce social distancing.
- Buffets will NEVER return to your or any casinos.
According to Snow, this may be your New Normal.
Time will tell. The casino environment is very difficult to control and mitigate the spread.
Large groups of people together with transfers of money, transfer of chips, dice, cards, hands on machines, vaping smoke spew, smoke spew, ashes on machines, people moving from machine to machine.
A bit different than 50-100 people sitting in a movie theater and doing nothing but watching a screen and eating their popcorn. Yes, close proximity....but effectively no transfers via the above noted issues.
I’m trying to grasp how we are going to safely open the casino doors....and frankly, I can’t grasp safe. The high contagion is not going away May 1.
Ugly situation. Bring on the vaccine. It’s the only true method to combat the enormous challenges of putting a lot of people together.
I agree.
The vaccine is still eleven months away at the least (they said a year and already it's been a month gone by)
I do believe there will be an interim period once they have a medical means to prevent death. That's really the main issue here.
We don't need to wait for the vaccine to reopen. Just a treatment where if you catch Coronavirus you go to the hospital, get some shots and fight off the infection without fear of dying.
I'm anxious to see the trial results of just such a medication. Results should be in by next week
And no, it's not hydroxychloriquine or remdesvir
Quote: darkozQuote: TDVegasQuote: LuckyPhowIf casinos are accepting reservations next month, t expect they will reopen the instant some government authority says it's OK. Like TD, I have wondered about changes casinos might institute when they reopen. Anything might happen.
Roger Snow, SrVP at Scientific Games, has a few suggestions of his own for what might be the New Normal. (He even admits how dumb it will look if he gets it all wrong.) Snow suggests these possibilities:
- Casinos will disinfect (or wash) casino chips.
- Cameras will automatically sense body temperature of guests as they arrive.
- Some dealers and other casino staff will wear masks, possibly with corporate branding. Gamblers may wear "fashion" masks.
- Slots will be positioned to enforce social distancing.
- Buffets will NEVER return to your or any casinos.
According to Snow, this may be your New Normal.
Time will tell. The casino environment is very difficult to control and mitigate the spread.
Large groups of people together with transfers of money, transfer of chips, dice, cards, hands on machines, vaping smoke spew, smoke spew, ashes on machines, people moving from machine to machine.
A bit different than 50-100 people sitting in a movie theater and doing nothing but watching a screen and eating their popcorn. Yes, close proximity....but effectively no transfers via the above noted issues.
I’m trying to grasp how we are going to safely open the casino doors....and frankly, I can’t grasp safe. The high contagion is not going away May 1.
Ugly situation. Bring on the vaccine. It’s the only true method to combat the enormous challenges of putting a lot of people together.
I agree.
The vaccine is still eleven months away at the least (they said a year and already it's been a month gone by)
I do believe there will be an interim period once they have a medical means to prevent death. That's really the main issue here.
We don't need to wait for the vaccine to reopen. Just a treatment where if you catch Coronavirus you go to the hospital, get some shots and fight off the infection without fear of dying.
I'm anxious to see the trial results of just such a medication. Results should be in by next week
And no, it's not hydroxychloriquine or remdesvir
As we open, the 4 groups at serious risk will be...
-Elderly....
-Elderly with compromised health...
-Anyone with compromised health...
-Anyone with lung issues (ie smokers)...
The key is not overwhelming hospitals and ventilators. Cities like Vegas have a high visitor count. We cannot house those visitors in overwhelming numbers in Vegas hospitals. It’s just not set up for that.
It’s a nasty virus but the supermajority will simply stay home (hopefully) if they get it, stay warm, drink fluids....and they will recover as if it was the standard flu. This thing is killing those with either health issues or compromised organs (ie lungs).
This is why....and I know I’m hammering it hard, you cannot allow smoking within the confines of the casino as we re open. It’s a non starter. For those who were or are considering quitting, you’ve just been handed a VERY sound reason to do so....your life.
Quote: FleaStiffMy local ARCADE here in Florida is staying open but limiting occupancy to ten masked customers and wiping things down every hour,
Florida gonna Florida...
Quote: billryanNY State is trying to develop an anti-body test. It appears that those who have been exposed and are no longer contagious may be allowed back to work in the not so distant future. I'm thinking June 1st but maybe sooner. What I don't get is what the majority of people will do. Those that practiced the guidelines and didn't expose themselves seem to be getting the short end of the stick.
Short end of the stick? LOL. I’m sure some people will go get themselves sick on purpose and risk it, so they can get back to work sooner.
Quote: billryanThose that practiced the guidelines and didn't expose themselves seem to be getting the short end of the stick.
The responsible ones getting the short end of the stick. Nothing new there. That's been a spiraling downward of society in general.
Quote: unJonShort end of the stick? LOL. I’m sure some people will go get themselves sick on purpose and risk it, so they can get back to work sooner.
I have heard this sentiment a few times.
From the accounts of how it hits even the healthy I think most people will regret such a decision.
There are plenty of things we can survive like tooth removal or surgery without anesthesia. If keeping your regular day job (not even a major jackpot just your regular 9-5) was hinged on having your appendix removed SANS anesthesia or any type of pain mitigation would the average person willingly do it so they could get back to work?
I don't believe so. Covid-19 results in feeling like you are drowning for days. Not something I would want to experience just to keep my day job
Quote: billryanYou can print it as big as you want. That doesnt make it true. Even your fractured fairty tale book you keep quoting is telling you that. You said the British killed 100 million people and then talk about things Columbus did a hundred years before the British first came to the states.
Now, if you said the Spanish, or even the Europeans killed 100 million, I'd still say you were wrong but were at least in the right ballpark.
Keep in mind that most Native tribes in the East choose to fight for the British against Americans both in the Revolution, and again in 1812.
Imgur set the size of the pics automatically. I didnt set the size.
These links were the source for 100 mill and British. I didn't post because i thought it was too judgemental. A scholar david stannard said 100 mil. Scholar henry dobyn said that there may have been 90-112.5 million in the Americas.
https://www.skeptic.ca/American_Holocaust.htm
https:/https://www.amazon.com/American-Holocaust-Conquest-New-World/dp/0195085574
I come here to see when casinos will open
Quote: Ace2At this point it seems there should be a separate American History thread.
I come here to see when casinos will open
I didnt start it. Someone else brought it up.
Quote: Ace2At this point it seems there should be a separate American History thread.
I come here to see when casinos will open
Agreed
Quote: Ace2At this point it seems there should be a separate American History thread.
I come here to see when casinos will open
I have to assume they are all shooting for May 1. With that said....I don't know how it happens without some acknowledgement from those who shut everything down that we aren't out of the woods and the potential for it blowing up is there. As each day goes by the health concern drops a percentage point and economic concern rises a percentage point.
Where the median is where we say acceptable risk....I do not know. I suspect even the leading infectious disease doctors in a room with economic leaders do not know what's a doable date.
Quote: TDVegasyou cannot allow smoking within the confines of the casino as we re open. It’s a non starter.
I always wonder why a 30-story resort hotel has 4 "smoking permitted" floors, but the casino allows smoking.
If everyone wears a mask, then smoking becomes impossible. Casinos could give a mask to any who need one. Then the casino could require all to wear masks so we all collectively protect each other. That, with other measures (sanitizing, social distance), may protect them enough. I expect the dealers will gladly enforce that rule, as long as it applies fairly to everyone.
Over time, more and more C-virus survivors -- they have have greater immunity after recovery, right? -- may feel safe when gambling. Eventually, masks may no longer be needed as society attains a more complete "herd immunity." Until then, no one knows whether or not they are a pre-symptom virus carrier. I know I'd feel safer in a masked casino.
Quote: LuckyPhowI always wonder why a 30-story resort hotel has 4 "smoking permitted" floors, but the casino allows smoking.
If everyone wears a mask, then smoking becomes impossible. Casinos could give a mask to any who need one. Then the casino could require all to wear masks so we all collectively protect each other. That, with other measures (sanitizing, social distance), may protect them enough. I expect the dealers will gladly enforce that rule, as long as it applies fairly to everyone.
Over time, more and more C-virus survivors -- they have have greater immunity after recovery, right? -- may feel safe when gambling. Eventually, masks may no longer be needed as society attains a more complete "herd immunity." Until then, no one knows whether or not they are a pre-symptom virus carrier. I know I'd feel safer in a masked casino.
So what happens with free alcohol?
People will need to drop their masks while imbibing
Quote: jjjooogggI didnt start it. Someone else brought it up.
Beg your pardon, I think you did. I brought up the Chinese Communist Party, and how they lie, and how they murder, and how this whole shut down is on them, entirely appropriate to this topic. Suddenly Flea Stiff stuck his nose in the conversation, and you started talking about the Indians. That's the way I saw it.
Quote: bobbartopBeg your pardon, I think you did. I brought up the Chinese Communist Party, and how they lie, and how they murder, and how this whole shut down is on them, entirely appropriate to this topic. Suddenly Flea Stiff stuck his nose in the conversation, and you started talking about the Indians. That's the way I saw it.
Well let's just stay on topic. Derailments sometimes are fluid and one doesn't realize they're gone off the rails.
That said, NJ has just extended their health protocol for an additional 30 more days
I believe that includes business closures.
If true, Atlantic City won't be open before May 7th
Quote: darkozWell let's just stay on topic. Derailments sometimes are fluid and one doesn't realize they're gone off the rails.
That said, NJ has just extended their health protocol for an additional 30 more days
I believe that includes business closures.
If true, Atlantic City won't be open before May 7th
The questions should be asked and answered by officials. What are the parameters that you will open business? Generic answers won’t suffice. They should give some hard answers where they are comfortable opening.
The public should know and frankly officials should be transparent.
Without transparency we are all left hanging economically. That’s stress enough alone....an unknown.
Quote: WizardTravelocity is taking Vegas hotel reservations at many properties, including the Venetian, starting May 1.
But I'm guessing with the 'no penalty if you cancel at any time' caveat?
Quote: LuckyPhowIf casinos are accepting reservations next month, t expect they will reopen the instant some government authority says it's OK. Like TD, I have wondered about changes casinos might institute when they reopen. Anything might happen.
Roger Snow, SrVP at Scientific Games, has a few suggestions of his own for what might be the New Normal. (He even admits how dumb it will look if he gets it all wrong.) Snow suggests these possibilities:
- Casinos will disinfect (or wash) casino chips.
- Cameras will automatically sense body temperature of guests as they arrive.
- Some dealers and other casino staff will wear masks, possibly with corporate branding. Gamblers may wear "fashion" masks.
- Slots will be positioned to enforce social distancing.
- Buffets will NEVER return to your or any casinos.
According to Snow, this may be your New Normal.
Within a few months it will be old normal. Buffets might not reopen right off, but they will be back. Don't think casinos will not keep slots as jammed in as possible.
Quote: darkozAgreed
Do you really need a thread to know a casino is closed, and there is no realistic date they might reopen.
Is it better to keep the thread on the first page or let it fade away?
Quote: billryanDo you really need a thread to know a casino is closed, and there is no realistic date they might reopen.
Is it better to keep the thread on the first page or let it fade away?
I believe updates are important
I've no shame, I probably would. As long as it's the cheap paper suit version. I mean, what the hell difference does it make?
I'd prefer to wear a plastic face shield than a mask though.
Gloves really aren't necessary to tell the truth. YOu just have to wash your hands. Gloves still have the germs all over them, as do hands.
Do they have some type of gloves that can actually kill viruses on contact? It seems like that would be really helpful.Quote: rxwineIf casinos opened and said you can only come in with a hazmat suit, would you show up?
I've no shame, I probably would. As long as it's the cheap paper suit version. I mean, what the hell difference does it make?
I'd prefer to wear a plastic face shield than a mask though.
Gloves really aren't necessary to tell the truth. YOu just have to wash your hands. Gloves still have the germs all over them, as do hands.
Quote: AxelWolfDo they have some type of gloves that can actually kill viruses on contact? It seems like that would be really helpful.
Not that I know of. Gloves are useful under certain conditions, but just can't see how they would be useful in a normal environment. They're going to get contaminated pretty quick. Good for people making your sandwich as long as they change them out after operating a register or other similar things. Good for handling things that you can't afford to contaminate for one reason or another: wounds...
Quote: AxelWolfDo they have some type of gloves that can actually kill viruses on contact? It seems like that would be really helpful.
One reason for hospital shortages is they throw away used gloves with each patient
Non-medical and cheapo people will wear the same pair for who knows how long
Quote: WizardTravelocity is taking Vegas hotel reservations at many properties, including the Venetian, starting May 1.
The MGM properties were taking bookings starting April 17th until the federal government recommended the stay at home guidelines go through April 30th, then they shifted to May 1.
I’ve got a trip booked for Memorial Day. I am not very optimistic that it will happen at this point.
I read somewhere that the big conglomerates will stagger the reopenings at first based on demand (I.e. Caesars Palace and The Linq will reopen first. Flamingo, Bally’s, etc. will open later when there is sufficient demand).
Quote: LuckyPhowI always wonder why a 30-story resort hotel has 4 "smoking permitted" floors, but the casino allows smoking.
If everyone wears a mask, then smoking becomes impossible. Casinos could give a mask to any who need one. Then the casino could require all to wear masks so we all collectively protect each other. That, with other measures (sanitizing, social distance), may protect them enough. I expect the dealers will gladly enforce that rule, as long as it applies fairly to everyone.
Over time, more and more C-virus survivors -- they have have greater immunity after recovery, right? -- may feel safe when gambling. Eventually, masks may no longer be needed as society attains a more complete "herd immunity." Until then, no one knows whether or not they are a pre-symptom virus carrier. I know I'd feel safer in a masked casino.
It's kind of the ridiculous aspect of casino smoking. We will let you smoke all over the casino floor, sports book, etc....but we value our non smokers by providing them with rooms "not stunk out by your vice."
"It's ok to stink them out in general population areas, though".
Quote: ams288The MGM properties were taking bookings starting April 17th until the federal government recommended the stay at home guidelines go through April 30th, then they shifted to May 1.
I’ve got a trip booked for Memorial Day. I am not very optimistic that it will happen at this point.
I read somewhere that the big conglomerates will stagger the reopenings at first based on demand (I.e. Caesars Palace and The Linq will reopen first. Flamingo, Bally’s, etc. will open later when there is sufficient demand).
Yes...I suspect this will be the case. The guidelines for opening will likely be tested on these limited openings and either expanded, changed or dumped altogether to the other properties.
Quote: TDVegasIt's kind of the ridiculous aspect of casino smoking. We will let you smoke all over the casino floor, sports book, etc....but we value our non smokers by providing them with rooms "not stunk out by your vice."
"It's ok to stink them out in general population areas, though".
Besides non-smokers not wanting to sleep in a stinky room I suspect the fire department has regulations about smoking floors
I remember reading somewhere that the reason smoking floors are usually lower level than non-smoking is the fire department. Smoking rooms have higher likelihood of fire and lower floors are easier to fight fires
I really don't know all the ways the virus can get inside you and infect you, what about open wounds or cuts? I'm thinking no, but I have no clue.Quote: rxwineEven if you wear gloves out all day, and take them off when you get home, it's still a good idea to wash your hands.
I agree with you about the glove thing, I think I was asking before how the hell do gloves help?
It's hard for me to fathom they they don't have some type of chemical treated gloves that kills viruses on contact.
I recently seen something about some company that claims they have a chemical spray that bonds two surfaces for a significant amount of time and it will kill the virus. I would think that would help significantly if true. I almost thought about looking up the company to see if you could invest in it.
Quote: darkozWell let's just stay on topic.
I'm on topic. I'm not convinced this wasn't intentional, unlike Chernobyl, which was an accident. And I'm not convinced casinos will ever open. On that note, have a nice day.
