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March 29th, 2020 at 4:10:34 PM permalink
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For some reason I am reminded of the decades-old movie of a Beverly Hills housewife and two daughters who are suddenly uprooted to rural Australia. The California kids have all these electronic devices for music-listening, the Australian kids play their own musical instruments, The Americans are dumbfounded to learn that the expensive diesel-generated power goes off at 8:00pm.

It is similar with the equipment and inclination for home baking and caning. We may have become to reliant on consumer packaged goods,


I have a breadmaker somewhere, but I pretty much never used it to bake bread; I couldn't get the bread just the way I wanted it, whereas I could get store-bought bread to my satisfaction quite easily. Pizza dough, and bagel dough for bagel dogs, on the other hand, I make myself with my stand mixer.

But what's "caning"? Sugar cane? Candy canes?
(House lightbulb moment) Do you, by any chance, mean canning? It's not called the Las Vegas (and Eastside) Canery, after all...
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March 29th, 2020 at 5:38:00 PM permalink
Went to the store today... TP gone. Flour gone. Eggs gone, even the prepackaged stuff and Egg Beaters. Rice gone, but oddly still plenty of pasta. Tons of bread, no limit on purchase. Tons of milk, limit two per customer. Tons of meat. Frozen veggies very low. Vegetarian meat alternatives almost gone. Tons of produce.

Very few products in general are sold out or short, so that's good to see. Hopefully it stays that way whenever the peak hits, they extend lockdowns, and people start to panic a little more.
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March 29th, 2020 at 5:49:26 PM permalink
No pasta, but plenty of rice here. Even the tri color and chick pea pasta is finally gone.
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March 29th, 2020 at 6:14:31 PM permalink
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But what's "caning"?

A punishment meted out to those who take issue with my 'hunt and peck' typing skills and utter lack of spelling skills.

I've recently been placed on a junk food diet by the quacks but I ain't got no transportation to the grocery store and now all these beans and lentils are verbotten and things like sugar and butter are back in vogue, so i'm binging on what little junk stuff I have in the larder and debating with myself justhow long I should embrace the quack's current whims.
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March 29th, 2020 at 6:35:45 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Went to the store today... TP gone. Flour gone. Eggs gone, even the prepackaged stuff and Egg Beaters. Rice gone, but oddly still plenty of pasta. Tons of bread, no limit on purchase. Tons of milk, limit two per customer. Tons of meat. Frozen veggies very low. Vegetarian meat alternatives almost gone. Tons of produce.

Very few products in general are sold out or short, so that's good to see. Hopefully it stays that way whenever the peak hits, they extend lockdowns, and people start to panic a little more.


I just got back and really the only thing out of stock was TP and BBQ sauce.

I did go to a Dollar General the other day and they had plenty of TP, and everything else.

Haven’t seen hand sanitizer for almost a month now, though.
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April 4th, 2020 at 9:53:09 PM permalink
I heard 1 in 4 small businesses in the
country are closed. That means 75%
are open. How is this by any stretch
'shutting down the economy.'

Walmart letting in 5 people per
1000 sq ft of floor space? Average
WM superstore is 180K sq ft. Mine
is 110K. That's 500 people. There
isn't 500 people in my store the
last Fri before Xmas, let alone now.
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April 4th, 2020 at 10:02:25 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Went to the store today... TP gone. Flour gone. Eggs gone, even the prepackaged stuff and Egg Beaters. Rice gone, but oddly still plenty of pasta. Tons of bread, no limit on purchase. Tons of milk, limit two per customer. Tons of meat. Frozen veggies very low. Vegetarian meat alternatives almost gone. Tons of produce.

Very few products in general are sold out or short, so that's good to see. Hopefully it stays that way whenever the peak hits, they extend lockdowns, and people start to panic a little more.



I must live in bubble suburbia. Where I live we can usually still get toilet paper and paper towels. Our local Menards almost always has it. Hand sanitizer is gone. Even though it's gone, along certain roads nail salons sell it and distilleries sell the stuff in two liter containers for about $20.
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April 4th, 2020 at 10:40:27 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I heard 1 in 4 small businesses in the
country are closed. That means 75%
are open. How is this by any stretch
'shutting down the economy.'

Walmart letting in 5 people per
1000 sq ft of floor space? Average
WM superstore is 180K sq ft. Mine
is 110K. That's 500 people. There
isn't 500 people in my store the
last Fri before Xmas, let alone now.



Yeah that's a very lax requirement for sure. A good portion of the store's footage isn't accessible to customer space.
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April 4th, 2020 at 11:16:52 PM permalink
I've been using Publix Home Delivery, so have not seen a store shelf in a long time.
MOWs is delivering 7 meals a week but usually only two days a week.
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April 5th, 2020 at 1:08:37 AM permalink
I bought toilet paper 7 weeks ago, and they've been out for the last 5 weeks. They're trying to fill in with a brand I've never seen before. Must be an emergency.
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April 5th, 2020 at 9:50:49 AM permalink
One of the things one gives up when you move to small towns is the availability of certain things.
My favorite pasta is called Oche de Lupo, or Eye of the Wolf. It's a cross between a ziti noodle and rigatoni. Easy to find in NY, much tougher in Vegas and impossible in Bisbee.
So as I'm walking down the almost empty pasta aisle, I see a bunch of boxes among otherwise empty shelves. Dozens of boxes of Oche de Lupo. Pasta has been selling out and I guess this hasn't been selling so well so the warehouse had this left with everything else sold.
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April 5th, 2020 at 10:33:49 AM permalink
We have 4 supermarket chain stores
here, and every week they all have
flyers on what's on sale. Huge part
of their business. Starting next week
the largest chain has announced
no more sale items. People are
hoarding them and making product
unavailable to the rest of the public.
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April 5th, 2020 at 11:13:28 AM permalink
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Even the darkest cloud has a silver lining.

A good thought to bear in mind during these trying times.
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April 5th, 2020 at 11:57:41 AM permalink
Yup, EvenBob, I see that here too. Circulars are basically touting whats available, very few things on sale. I did snag 3 boxes of Gortons Filets at buy2 GOF. Even those are gone now. There are reports in the North East that the seafood industry in trouble. But them lobstahs can grow one more year to a good 2-pounder+ instead of these tiny ones.

***EDIT*** Local gasoline price now down to $1.49

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April 5th, 2020 at 12:03:30 PM permalink
I was surprised Safeway was having so many sales this week. Picked up some nice steaks, and some Marie Callender dinners.
Still no TP or much paper. I'm down to my last roll of paper towels, but have plenty of TP.
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April 5th, 2020 at 12:29:37 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

I was surprised Safeway was having so many sales this week. Picked up some nice steaks, and some Marie Callender dinners.
Still no TP or much paper. I'm down to my last roll of paper towels, but have plenty of TP.



Don't know if I'd rely on Google too much based on these answers. Are you in the woods, by any chance?

Quote:

What can you use for toilet paper in the woods?
The options:
Smooth oval rocks (from river beds if possible)
Snowball.
Rounded sticks.
Leaves (as said elsewhere, be careful of which kinds)
soft pine cones (relatively rare, but plentiful where they exist!)
handful of grass
the back of a chipmunk is also soft

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April 5th, 2020 at 3:38:04 PM permalink
This is what I'm wearing to the store
tomorrow. The gloves keep my hands
off my face. 10 bucks for 1000 pair
at Walmart or Amazon. My brother
modeled the mask for the pic.


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April 5th, 2020 at 4:02:26 PM permalink
Quote: Suited89

Yup, EvenBob, I see that here too. Circulars are basically touting whats available, very few things on sale. I did snag 3 boxes of Gortons Filets at buy2 GOF. Even those are gone now. There are reports in the North East that the seafood industry in trouble. But them lobstahs can grow one more year to a good 2-pounder+ instead of these tiny ones.

***EDIT*** Local gasoline price now down to $1.49

Suited89



Lowest gas prices in years, and I’m getting three weeks per gallon.
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April 5th, 2020 at 4:38:31 PM permalink
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Lowest gas prices in years, and I’m getting three weeks per gallon.



LOL! I drove to pick up takeout today. Duff's chicken wings! Probably 2 miles round trip. Longest drive in last 3 weeks. At this rate I may need to fill up again in September. Tomorrow maybe 5 mile drive to golf course.
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April 5th, 2020 at 4:59:57 PM permalink
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LOL! I drove to pick up takeout today. Duff's chicken wings! Probably 2 miles round trip. Longest drive in last 3 weeks. At this rate I may need to fill up again in September. Tomorrow maybe 5 mile drive to golf course.



I never got the appeal of that place. Most overrated wings I ever had.
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April 5th, 2020 at 11:21:09 PM permalink
Been a long time since I paid $2.79 a dozen for eggs $4.99 for a gallon of milk ... but that's alright . Few in and out visits to the stores for such things and some fresh fruits and veggies. Finally cleaning out the chest freezer and using the BBQ a lot. We are good to go with the extra two tanks of propane .

Hand sanitizer being made here by a few different places just not for the general public

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/windsor-whisky-maker-producing-hand-sanitizer-1.5503447

video I saw they were filling 5 gallon pails from a 200 gallon tote .... local groups delivering if for free .

Windsor area 3 deaths from the virus while Detroit a half mile away across the river has had 167 so far. With well over 1000 nurses and hospital staff for Detroit hospitals coming from Windsor area we expect that number to rise
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April 6th, 2020 at 12:00:47 AM permalink
Albertsons, here in Las Vegas is not having any sales anymore, either.
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April 6th, 2020 at 6:59:27 AM permalink
TP and other paper products are returning to the shelves here. My local grocery store has gone to a 1 person per cart policy and instituted one-way aisles to minimize face-to-face contact. Target and Walmart are starting their limit on people in-store today. Target is apparently going for 200, including staff. I'm not sure of Walmart's number. 200 is a good estimate for the normal shopping load, though. So I'm not sure what that helps. There's still no pasta anywhere. And no cold meds.
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April 6th, 2020 at 7:32:30 AM permalink
Made a medium sized trip today. Some things are in abundance, others are wiped out. Picked up a six pack of toilet paper.

Lots of hand sanitizer stations all over the store, and cart wipes. They insisted we use the stylus on the push pad, and they wiped the stylus between customers. They also wiped the belt between customers and had lexan sneeze shields. About 75% of people (including us) wore face masks. We felt reasonably secure.

This is a Wegman’s, major regional chain in the mid Atlantic.
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April 6th, 2020 at 7:43:41 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Made a medium sized trip today. Some things are in abundance, others are wiped out. Picked up a six pack of toilet paper.

Lots of hand sanitizer stations all over the store, and cart wipes. They insisted we use the stylus on the push pad, and they wiped the stylus between customers. They also wiped the belt between customers and had lexan sneeze shields. About 75% of people (including us) wore face masks. We felt reasonably secure.

This is a Wegman’s, major regional chain in the mid Atlantic.



I went to a local supermarket yesterday and it looked like everything was available besides the TP, paper towels, and kleenex. About 20% of the people were wearing masks.
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April 6th, 2020 at 8:01:31 AM permalink
Safeway has stopped its "$5 Friday" promotion where I live. Presumably, it didn't want too many people showing up on the same day for one-day sale prices.
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April 6th, 2020 at 8:07:48 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Albertsons, here in Las Vegas is not having any sales anymore, either.


Did you see a sign in store or something? I looked around online a little and could not confirm. The current (pared down) sales ad for Von's/Albertson's ends on Tuesday April 7th. Maybe it is going to be the last one for some time? Their "Just for U" app deals and rewards still look active when I sign in.
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April 6th, 2020 at 2:42:54 PM permalink
Went to the store for the first time
since March 4th. Wore the mask
and felt like an idiot until I saw
all the other idiots in masks.

Got everything on my list, even $2
a dozen eggs. Filled all 3 fridges
with produce and the freezer with
chicken, pork, and burger. Won't have
to go back for a month.

Saw way too many couples without
masks. WTF, one of you can't come
with a list while the other stays
home you selfish jerks?


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April 6th, 2020 at 3:13:41 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Saw way too many couples without
masks. WTF, one of you can't come
with a list while the other stays
home you selfish jerks?



I know! Some of them even live together, can you imagine?
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April 6th, 2020 at 3:51:34 PM permalink
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I know!



They're in the store polluting the
rest of by not wearing masks.
The height of selfish behavior.
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April 6th, 2020 at 7:31:25 PM permalink
I think I will stick with INSTACART delivery rather than trek to the supermarket. It is cheaper to pay a premium on each item than to pay a ten dollar premium on each taxi ride.
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April 6th, 2020 at 8:20:00 PM permalink
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I think I will stick with INSTACART delivery rather than trek to the supermarket. It is cheaper to pay a premium on each item than to pay a ten dollar premium on each taxi ride.



We tried that. It was convenient, but our delivery time was set for 7-8PM, and our shopper started around 6PM. About half our items were not available. I also did not like not being able to choose my own produce.

We absolutely felt that the service was worth it. Perhaps when things get back to normal we will use it more often.
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April 6th, 2020 at 10:05:47 PM permalink
Turns out toilet paper hoarding goes back to at least 1973.



Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K9-Lz0SbrA
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April 6th, 2020 at 10:51:23 PM permalink
Im considering putting newspaper in a paper shredder and see how well it goes as TP. Im certified in plumbing if it clogs.

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April 7th, 2020 at 12:07:06 AM permalink
Walmart is trying "one way" aisles. People can maintain distance; no two way traffic passing close by.

Those are the kind of ideas that can help us get back to a more normal economy where people can still do things with some modifications.
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April 7th, 2020 at 2:45:32 AM permalink
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We tried that [Instacart shopping service]. It was convenient, but our delivery time was set for 7-8PM,

Even with the current disruptions delivery days and times are SELECTABLE.
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April 7th, 2020 at 7:17:30 AM permalink
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Turns out toilet paper hoarding goes back to at least 1973.



Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K9-Lz0SbrA



1973/74 saw a severe paper shortage of all sorts. Several magazines and at least one comic company had to switch paper stocks, and Marvel Comics went from charging 15 cents a copy to 30 cents. A number of magazines folded in that era.
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April 7th, 2020 at 7:47:35 AM permalink
Concerning toilet paper, I read an article discussing how, although hording is certainly an issue, the big problem is the shift in demand. The tp industry is divided in half between commercial and residential usage. Under normal circumstances the demand for each side is roughly equal.

Unfortunately, times aren't normal. People are stuck at home. So all the tp demand once met by the bathrooms in office buildings, restaurants, entertainment venues et al is currently shifted to the residential side. Hence, visiting the paper products aisle at the residential supermarket is like shopping in the former Soviet Union.
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April 7th, 2020 at 8:23:02 AM permalink
Quote: Keeneone

Did you see a sign in store or something? I looked around online a little and could not confirm. The current (pared down) sales ad for Von's/Albertson's ends on Tuesday April 7th. Maybe it is going to be the last one for some time? Their "Just for U" app deals and rewards still look active when I sign in.

I'm just going by what the wife told me. She's always looking for sales coupons and special deals on the app, I think it's generally Wednesday when they have the good ones. She used to go out every week during the sales. She was telling me there are no sales any more at Albertson's.
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April 7th, 2020 at 8:28:35 AM permalink
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Im considering putting newspaper in a paper shredder and see how well it goes as TP. Im certified in plumbing if it clogs.

I'm not sure why you would put it in a paper shredder? If you take newspaper and crumple it up a bunch of times I will soften up pretty good. Better yet, just keep running it back and forth over a hard surface corner, that will have the same effect how's crumpling but much quicker. I guess you're thinking... if it's shredded up it won't clog up as easy. I still don't know what's wrong with a wet washcloth to wipe and a dry one to dry. And then just rinse the used one out really well and proceed to throw it in the washer until you're ready to do a load(no pun intended)

Wouldn't letting the newspaper sit in the toilet with a little bit of Drano or bleach break it down pretty good before you flushed? If you had a little bit of bleach to the water that's definitely going to help stop any smells one might get from leaving an unflushed toilet.
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April 7th, 2020 at 9:05:28 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Quote: Mosca

We tried that [Instacart shopping service]. It was convenient, but our delivery time was set for 7-8PM,

Even with the current disruptions delivery days and times are SELECTABLE.



Ours was fixed, and three days after we ordered; either that or the desireable times were all filled. Regardless, the next time, yesterday morning, we took the trip that I wrote about, yesterday.
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April 7th, 2020 at 9:08:56 AM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Concerning toilet paper, I read an article discussing how, although hording is certainly an issue, the big problem is the shift in demand. The tp industry is divided in half between commercial and residential usage. Under normal circumstances the demand for each side is roughly equal.

Unfortunately, times aren't normal. People are struck at home. So all the tp demand once met by the bathrooms in office buildings, restaurants, entertainment venues et al is currently shifted to the residential side. Hence, visiting the paper products aisle at the residential supermarket is like shopping in the former Soviet Union.



Now that is interesting. I’ve also read that with all the shortages of produce, there is actually fruit rotting in warehouses and fields, for the same reason: most of it goes to restaurants and institutions like school cafeterias. Without the commercial market, growers can’t afford to pay people to pick food that they can’t sell.
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April 7th, 2020 at 9:12:17 AM permalink
Las Vegas has all these closed hotels, with tens of thousands of closed rooms. I'm guessing companies like MGM are literally sitting on hundreds of thousands of rolls of toilet paper. Someone is missing a pretty obvious public relations coup.
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April 7th, 2020 at 9:14:41 AM permalink
At a small online auction in Arizona, 11 rolls of industrial toilet paper sold for $22. Normally, it might bring ten-twenty cents a roll.
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April 7th, 2020 at 9:26:09 AM permalink
I've heard that some restaurants will sell you a roll or two of their supply when you pick up your take out.
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April 7th, 2020 at 12:59:26 PM permalink
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I've heard that some restaurants will sell you a roll or two of their supply when you pick up your take out.

Not just TP, but our local barbecue restaurant has a list of about 20 'essentials' they will sell you when you go to pick up food.
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April 7th, 2020 at 1:05:07 PM permalink
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I've heard that some restaurants will sell you a roll or two of their supply when you pick up your take out.



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April 7th, 2020 at 1:23:09 PM permalink
Yeah, a week and a half ago, I would have been fine if they had shipped industrial rolls to the grocery store. Would have bought one. But I got enough now.
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April 7th, 2020 at 1:45:37 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

I've heard that some restaurants will sell you a roll or two of their supply when you pick up your take out.



Here in Reno, a restaurant is givig away free packs of TP if you order takeout. Is the food that bad that you need to hit the head immediately after you eat it?

Also so many people going into stores with entire families which is not helping the situation if stores are limiting the number of customers. It should be one per household.
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April 7th, 2020 at 9:13:11 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Also so many people going into stores with entire families which is not helping the situation if stores are limiting the number of customers. It should be one per household.



I said that yesterday. I couldn't believe
the number of couples and fam members
in the store, and not even wearing masks.
Stupidity on the hoof.
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