Celebrity Deaths
December 28th, 2025 at 2:24:53 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: EvenBobQuote: GenoDRPhJames Moylan was a Ford designer known for inventing the small arrow on fuel gauges that indicates which side the gas cap is on (the "Moylan Arrow"), a simple yet brilliant idea from 1986 that prevents drivers from pulling up to the wrong side of a gas pump, saving time and reducing frustration. He passed away on December 11, 2025, at age 80, leaving behind this ubiquitous feature found in most modern vehicles.
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And yet my wife, who was valedictorian of her class in high school and on the Dean's List in college with a four point average, she cannot remember which side her own gas cap is on. I have told her to look for the arrow but of course she forgets that also. She's always been like that, she can discuss at length every book that Charles Dickens wrote but she can't remember where the gas cap is on her own car. This is why there are so few women mechanics, that kind of stuff is just really hard for a lot of them. Camille Paglia who is a rabid feminist has said that if the world was run by women, we would still be hunting and gathering and living in grass huts and there would be no technological advances because women are incapable of it.
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I wouldn't mind a country or world run by women. Just tell us what problems that need fixing or solved, and let the problem solvers get to work.
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When the people running things and the problem solvers aren't the same people (or more precisely, don't have the same skills) there is nothing but confusion and chaos. A lot of "Somebody needs to do something about that" and "I wish we had..." People who aren't directly part of producing goods and providing services usually neglect to consider all the steps, conditions, and preparations that are necessary for producing something. Every little detail must be accounted for before you start.
So let's say it's me and a girl. Girl says "We should build a raised patio in the backyard! That would be awesome!" She's thinking about the color, how it's going to look, what she is going to do with it etc. I am thinking about ground conditions, foundations, building materials, snow loads and thermal expansion, and all that considered- "You sure you want to do that? This is what will be required..." and she might not want to hear that, she wants what she wants, and if I let her be a ballaboosta I'm going to end up having to do something unreasonable and neither of us are going to be happy with the result.
December 28th, 2025 at 2:47:58 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: EvenBobQuote: GenoDRPhJames Moylan was a Ford designer known for inventing the small arrow on fuel gauges that indicates which side the gas cap is on (the "Moylan Arrow"), a simple yet brilliant idea from 1986 that prevents drivers from pulling up to the wrong side of a gas pump, saving time and reducing frustration. He passed away on December 11, 2025, at age 80, leaving behind this ubiquitous feature found in most modern vehicles.
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And yet my wife, who was valedictorian of her class in high school and on the Dean's List in college with a four point average, she cannot remember which side her own gas cap is on. I have told her to look for the arrow but of course she forgets that also. She's always been like that, she can discuss at length every book that Charles Dickens wrote but she can't remember where the gas cap is on her own car. This is why there are so few women mechanics, that kind of stuff is just really hard for a lot of them. Camille Paglia who is a rabid feminist has said that if the world was run by women, we would still be hunting and gathering and living in grass huts and there would be no technological advances because women are incapable of it.
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I wouldn't mind a country or world run by women. Just tell us what problems that need fixing or solved, and let the problem solvers get to work.
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When the people running things and the problem solvers aren't the same people (or more precisely, don't have the same skills) there is nothing but confusion and chaos. A lot of "Somebody needs to do something about that" and "I wish we had..." People who aren't directly part of producing goods and providing services usually neglect to consider all the steps, conditions, and preparations that are necessary for producing something. Every little detail must be accounted for before you start.
So let's say it's me and a girl. Girl says "We should build a raised patio in the backyard! That would be awesome!" She's thinking about the color, how it's going to look, what she is going to do with it etc. I am thinking about ground conditions, foundations, building materials, snow loads and thermal expansion, and all that considered- "You sure you want to do that? This is what will be required..." and she might not want to hear that, she wants what she wants, and if I let her be a ballaboosta I'm going to end up having to do something unreasonable and neither of us are going to be happy with the result.
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Where there's a will, there's a way!
December 28th, 2025 at 3:54:00 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhJ a simple yet brilliant idea from 1986 that prevents drivers from pulling up to the wrong side of a gas pump, saving time and reducing frustration.
mine must be defective, I still pull up to the wrong side.
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
December 28th, 2025 at 8:37:18 PM
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Quote: DRichQuote: GenoDRPhJ a simple yet brilliant idea from 1986 that prevents drivers from pulling up to the wrong side of a gas pump, saving time and reducing frustration.
mine must be defective, I still pull up to the wrong side.
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Operator error. System working as designed!
December 28th, 2025 at 10:33:00 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: EvenBobQuote: GenoDRPhJames Moylan was a Ford designer known for inventing the small arrow on fuel gauges that indicates which side the gas cap is on (the "Moylan Arrow"), a simple yet brilliant idea from 1986 that prevents drivers from pulling up to the wrong side of a gas pump, saving time and reducing frustration. He passed away on December 11, 2025, at age 80, leaving behind this ubiquitous feature found in most modern vehicles.
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And yet my wife, who was valedictorian of her class in high school and on the Dean's List in college with a four point average, she cannot remember which side her own gas cap is on. I have told her to look for the arrow but of course she forgets that also. She's always been like that, she can discuss at length every book that Charles Dickens wrote but she can't remember where the gas cap is on her own car. This is why there are so few women mechanics, that kind of stuff is just really hard for a lot of them. Camille Paglia who is a rabid feminist has said that if the world was run by women, we would still be hunting and gathering and living in grass huts and there would be no technological advances because women are incapable of it.
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I wouldn't mind a country or world run by women. Just tell us what problems that need fixing or solved, and let the problem solvers get to work.
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Remind me what your preferred pronouns are, I forgot.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 28th, 2025 at 10:37:16 PM
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Quote: billryanIn the mid-1960s, my Dad bought a 1958 Olds 98 that was all chrome and fins. One of the fins flipped to reveal the gas cap, and it was used to drive gas attendants crazy while they searched for it.
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Bolony. Pump jockeys were experts on where the gas cap was on every car. That's all they did all day long was pump gas. In the mid 60s every pump jockey in the country would know where the gas cap was on a 58 car. I started driving in 1965 and at least half the cars still on the road we're made in the 50s. I had one all my friends had one. Where the gas cap was is not a mystery.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 29th, 2025 at 2:08:25 AM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryanIn the mid-1960s, my Dad bought a 1958 Olds 98 that was all chrome and fins. One of the fins flipped to reveal the gas cap, and it was used to drive gas attendants crazy while they searched for it.
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Bolony. Pump jockeys were experts on where the gas cap was on every car. That's all they did all day long was pump gas. In the mid 60s every pump jockey in the country would know where the gas cap was on a 58 car. I started driving in 1965 and at least half the cars still on the road we're made in the 50s. I had one all my friends had one. Where the gas cap was is not a mystery.
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I had a couple of GM cars where the gas filler was behind the rear license plate. Awkward and cumbersome, requiring you to crouch when it might not be a good day for that, and can get you in contact with the car behind you at the pump. One time I was wedged between my car and the car behind me filling, and the other driver thought he was doing me a favor by backing up, which led to an epic slapstick pratfall, me and gas all over the place.
December 29th, 2025 at 9:56:16 AM
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
December 29th, 2025 at 10:40:41 AM
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It all seems so strange, Brigitte Bardot was a famous sex symbol in the mid 1950s when I was in first and second grade. Now I'm 76 and she was still alive till this week? I can't wrap my mind around it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 31st, 2025 at 9:37:48 PM
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AI is scary what's it going to be like in 5 years
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3EmxG9J-ibI
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3EmxG9J-ibI
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 10th, 2026 at 1:15:43 PM
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T.K. Carter
He was the black guy in John Carpenter's The Thing(Not the one who survives at the end). He was also in Runaway Train and a bunch of others
Age 69. Found dead in home on a wellness check. No foul play apparent at this time.
He was the black guy in John Carpenter's The Thing(Not the one who survives at the end). He was also in Runaway Train and a bunch of others
Age 69. Found dead in home on a wellness check. No foul play apparent at this time.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
January 10th, 2026 at 3:54:31 PM
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Bob Weir, of the Grateful Dead, 78.
January 11th, 2026 at 7:14:52 AM
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Quote: GenoDRPhBob Weir, of the Grateful Dead, 78.
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One of my favorite musicians, he was the lead singer on most of the Dead's rock and country songs. He was only 16 when he started playing with Jerry Garcia and the others, who would go on to become the Grateful Dead.
Mr. Weir might have been the most accomplished rhythm guitarist in the industry. He trained on the piano before switching to guitar at 14, and his fingerwork was often compared to that of a classical pianist.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
January 13th, 2026 at 8:13:19 AM
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Scott Adams, 68
Dilbert
Dilbert
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
January 13th, 2026 at 8:15:51 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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RIP, and thank you for the laughter.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
January 13th, 2026 at 9:12:43 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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We knew this was coming, he announced he would be dead by this past summer. Even so, he was a wonderful, creative, inspiring person and we are the poorer for his passing. R.I.P.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
January 13th, 2026 at 11:05:23 AM
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Quote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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RIP, and thank you for the laughter.
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His comic was funny. The later right wing extremism and racism I could do without.
January 13th, 2026 at 11:44:08 AM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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RIP, and thank you for the laughter.
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His comic was funny. The later right wing extremism and racism I could do without.
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To the extreme, the normal appear as extremists. To the racist, the fair-minded appear as racist.
January 13th, 2026 at 11:45:29 AM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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RIP, and thank you for the laughter.
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His comic was funny. The later right wing extremism and racism I could do without.
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Please keep politics out of this discussion.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
January 13th, 2026 at 11:51:10 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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RIP, and thank you for the laughter.
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His comic was funny. The later right wing extremism and racism I could do without.
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Please keep politics out of this discussion.
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He should not have have tainted his legacy then. It's all fair game.
January 13th, 2026 at 11:52:06 AM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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RIP, and thank you for the laughter.
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His comic was funny. The later right wing extremism and racism I could do without.
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To the extreme, the normal appear as extremists. To the racist, the fair-minded appear as racist.
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Yeah, no.
January 13th, 2026 at 12:04:58 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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RIP, and thank you for the laughter.
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His comic was funny. The later right wing extremism and racism I could do without.
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Please keep politics out of this discussion.
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He should not have have tainted his legacy then. It's all fair game.
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Not on this site, politics free zone.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
January 13th, 2026 at 12:36:19 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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RIP, and thank you for the laughter.
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His comic was funny. The later right wing extremism and racism I could do without.
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Please keep politics out of this discussion.
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He should not have have tainted his legacy then. It's all fair game.
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Basic decency says hold your disdain until after the funeral.
Forum rules say to keep off-topic politics elsewhere.
May the cards fall in your favor.
January 13th, 2026 at 4:31:50 PM
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Quote: gordonm888Quote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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We knew this was coming, he announced he would be dead by this past summer. Even so, he was a wonderful, creative, inspiring person and we are the poorer for his passing. R.I.P.
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I listened to Scott almost everyday from 2015 to about 2022, when his ego just took total control of him and I couldn't take it anymore. He was a rabid dope smoker, he smoked extremely strong weed for over 40 years every day. Every evening for 40 years he was higher than a kite. Now if you just do the tiniest bit of research you will find out that with this does, smoking weed for even a year or two, it destroys your immune system, makes it almost completely ineffective. And doing it for 40 years is just plain insane because you're opening yourself up to getting something that will get into your system and expand rapidly which is what happened to him. Scott Adams is the poster child example of fafo, and he certainly found out. Every drug comes with a price. He was also a well-voiced atheist until the day before he died then he converted to Christianity.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 13th, 2026 at 4:31:50 PM
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Quote: gordonm888Quote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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We knew this was coming, he announced he would be dead by this past summer. Even so, he was a wonderful, creative, inspiring person and we are the poorer for his passing. R.I.P.
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I listened to Scott almost everyday from 2015 to about 2022, when his ego just took total control of him and I couldn't take it anymore. He was a rabid dope smoker, he smoked extremely strong weed for over 40 years every day. Every evening for 40 years he was higher than a kite. Now if you just do the tiniest bit of research you will find out that with this does, smoking weed for even a year or two, it destroys your immune system, makes it almost completely ineffective. And doing it for 40 years is just plain insane because you're opening yourself up to getting something that will get into your system and expand rapidly which is what happened to him. Scott Adams is the poster child example of fafo, and he certainly found out. Every drug comes with a price. He was also a well-voiced atheist until the day before he died then he converted to Christianity.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 13th, 2026 at 6:21:02 PM
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Quote: DieterQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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RIP, and thank you for the laughter.
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His comic was funny. The later right wing extremism and racism I could do without.
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Please keep politics out of this discussion.
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He should not have have tainted his legacy then. It's all fair game.
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Basic decency says hold your disdain until after the funeral.
Forum rules say to keep off-topic politics elsewhere.
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Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency. And if the topic is Scott Adams, his public statements are also the topic. And if Duffy's knickers get in a twist for that, that's something Duffy's going to have to deal with. I will refrain from any more comment about how Adams tainted his legacy,,provided nobody else tells us what a great guy he was.
January 13th, 2026 at 6:37:15 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: DieterQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanQuote: AZDuffmanScott Adams, 68
Dilbert
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RIP, and thank you for the laughter.
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His comic was funny. The later right wing extremism and racism I could do without.
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Please keep politics out of this discussion.
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He should not have have tainted his legacy then. It's all fair game.
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Basic decency says hold your disdain until after the funeral.
Forum rules say to keep off-topic politics elsewhere.
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Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency. And if the topic is Scott Adams, his public statements are also the topic. And if Duffy's knickers get in a twist for that, that's something Duffy's going to have to deal with. I will refrain from any more comment about how Adams tainted his legacy,,provided nobody else tells us what a great guy he was.
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It comes as no surprise to me that the people who believe they are above following the rules of this forum, that our hosts graciously provide for us at their own expense and risk and ask only that we follow those few certain rules, such as "no politics," also have something else in common.
To me, it is an identifier of those who cannot ever be believed or trusted, and that is valuable in the AP world. Such people typically believe they are also above honorable interactions with others, and will eventually concoct reasons to lie, cheat, and steal from those they believe are beneath them, for ideological reasons.
I enjoyed all of Scott Adams' work. Despite not being a fan of the morbid or sorrowful, I was able to appreciate his discussions on the topic of his own approaching death as well.
Now go bottle your pills!
January 13th, 2026 at 6:42:24 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: Dieter
Basic decency says hold your disdain until after the funeral.
Forum rules say to keep off-topic politics elsewhere.
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Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency. And if the topic is Scott Adams, his public statements are also the topic. And if Duffy's knickers get in a twist for that, that's something Duffy's going to have to deal with. I will refrain from any more comment about how Adams tainted his legacy,,provided nobody else tells us what a great guy he was.
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This decency is respect for the bereft, not the deceased.
May the cards fall in your favor.
January 14th, 2026 at 10:48:49 AM
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So I got AZDuffman and his knickers in a twist because I mentioned well known racism that somehow Duffy defends. I got the usual Automatic Monkey's dizzying word salad, with an admonishing to go back to bottling my pills and I have Dieter scolding me for not being decent enough to wait until the body is in the ground until I commented about the deceased heel turn, as if every headline that reported his demise didn't mention the same thing above the fold, as it were. That tells me one thing: If they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right.
Now back to our regulatory scheduled programming.
Now back to our regulatory scheduled programming.
January 14th, 2026 at 11:01:17 AM
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Quote: GenoDRPhIf they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right.
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Coincidentally this is why they give certain children Ritalin. The way they get attention to by making everybody mad at them
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 14th, 2026 at 2:29:41 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhSo I got AZDuffman and his knickers in a twist because I mentioned well known racism that somehow Duffy defends. I got the usual Automatic Monkey's dizzying word salad, with an admonishing to go back to bottling my pills and I have Dieter scolding me for not being decent enough to wait until the body is in the ground until I commented about the deceased heel turn, as if every headline that reported his demise didn't mention the same thing above the fold, as it were. That tells me one thing: If they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right.
Now back to our regulatory scheduled programming.
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Well with that logic a lot of people are mad at ice so they must be doing something right.
Happy days are here again
January 14th, 2026 at 3:04:46 PM
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Early in my adulthood, Mr. Adams made me laugh. Later in life, he made me angry. Now that he is dead, I forget my anger and remember the good times. It helps me move forward.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
January 14th, 2026 at 3:58:56 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: GenoDRPhIf they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right.
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Coincidentally this is why they give certain children Ritalin. The way they get attention to by making everybody mad at them
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Works for me. Every Ritalin I dispense makes me money.
January 14th, 2026 at 4:10:58 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhSo I got AZDuffman and his knickers in a twist because I mentioned well known racism that somehow Duffy defends. I got the usual Automatic Monkey's dizzying word salad, with an admonishing to go back to bottling my pills and I have Dieter scolding me for not being decent enough to wait until the body is in the ground until I commented about the deceased heel turn, as if every headline that reported his demise didn't mention the same thing above the fold, as it were. That tells me one thing: If they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right...
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Here's what set me, and probably some others off: you said the quiet part out loud:
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Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency...
What I get from that is that you reserve the right to treat people as badly as you wish, as long as you call them a racist first. Because in contemporary discourse that's all "racist" really is, it's a disparaging term you call someone. The word was coined in the early 20th century by [devotees of an international totalitarian movement] and it does have a definition, but in actual usage its meaning is arbitrary, capricious, self-defined for everyone, and is far more likely to be used as a slur in itself than as a precise descriptive term. Everything from tax cuts to sandwiches to "Jingle Bells" has been proclaimed "racist" by some self-promoter.
Thus, this indecent treatment you have in store for those you deem racist begins and ends with you and whatever is going on in your mind, and those of us who study real history know how bad that can go. There was a time when if somebody had something you wanted, you didn't call them "racist" but you called them "witch" or "heretic," then you got to burn them alive and take their stuff. Then there was a time and place where you called them "Jew" and burned their books, loaded them on to boxcars and took their property. All of these things are the same to me, and in schematic form they can be broken down to what you said: "It's OK to be malevolent and malefic towards someone if they have been adjudged by me to have this character flaw that I define and have put myself in charge of determining." Today it leads to violence in our society, including the kind where one might believe it is OK to murder someone for promoting ideas with which you disagree, and being we all have people who disagree with us it makes us all targets. I think you would do those things to me, if you were sure you could get away with it.
January 15th, 2026 at 5:35:20 AM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhSo I got AZDuffman and his knickers in a twist because I mentioned well known racism that somehow Duffy defends. I got the usual Automatic Monkey's dizzying word salad, with an admonishing to go back to bottling my pills and I have Dieter scolding me for not being decent enough to wait until the body is in the ground until I commented about the deceased heel turn, as if every headline that reported his demise didn't mention the same thing above the fold, as it were. That tells me one thing: If they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right...
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Here's what set me, and probably some others off: you said the quiet part out loud:Quote: GenoDRPh
Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency...
What I get from that is that you reserve the right to treat people as badly as you wish, as long as you call them a racist first. Because in contemporary discourse that's all "racist" really is, it's a disparaging term you call someone. The word was coined in the early 20th century by [devotees of an international totalitarian movement] and it does have a definition, but in actual usage its meaning is arbitrary, capricious, self-defined for everyone, and is far more likely to be used as a slur in itself than as a precise descriptive term. Everything from tax cuts to sandwiches to "Jingle Bells" has been proclaimed "racist" by some self-promoter.
Thus, this indecent treatment you have in store for those you deem racist begins and ends with you and whatever is going on in your mind, and those of us who study real history know how bad that can go. There was a time when if somebody had something you wanted, you didn't call them "racist" but you called them "witch" or "heretic," then you got to burn them alive and take their stuff. Then there was a time and place where you called them "Jew" and burned their books, loaded them on to boxcars and took their property. All of these things are the same to me, and in schematic form they can be broken down to what you said: "It's OK to be malevolent and malefic towards someone if they have been adjudged by me to have this character flaw that I define and have put myself in charge of determining." Today it leads to violence in our society, including the kind where one might believe it is OK to murder someone for promoting ideas with which you disagree, and being we all have people who disagree with us it makes us all targets. I think you would do those things to me, if you were sure you could get away with it.
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Not sure what you're arguing. Someone could tell me that they work in a forest, cut down trees, send them down a river, for processing to be sawed into various lengths for use in make various products using wood. And then deny that they doing nothing related to logging, or wood cutter, or anything related to what they actually do. So, I'm not supposed to call them that?
Sanitized for Your Protection
January 15th, 2026 at 8:37:10 AM
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If a lumberjack chooses to identify as a ballerina, who are you to argue with them?
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
January 15th, 2026 at 9:10:35 AM
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Former Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich died suddenly over the weekend at age 59. He was one of the leaders in the attempt to overturn the 2020 election. After he left office, he wanted to run for Governor, but Trump declined to endorse him.
He was nominated as Ambassador to Serbia last year, but the administration quietly withdrew his nomination.
The unofficial cause of death is a heart attack, and he is survived by a wife and two daughters.
He was nominated as Ambassador to Serbia last year, but the administration quietly withdrew his nomination.
The unofficial cause of death is a heart attack, and he is survived by a wife and two daughters.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
January 15th, 2026 at 9:32:49 AM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhSo I got AZDuffman and his knickers in a twist because I mentioned well known racism that somehow Duffy defends. I got the usual Automatic Monkey's dizzying word salad, with an admonishing to go back to bottling my pills and I have Dieter scolding me for not being decent enough to wait until the body is in the ground until I commented about the deceased heel turn, as if every headline that reported his demise didn't mention the same thing above the fold, as it were. That tells me one thing: If they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right...
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Here's what set me, and probably some others off: you said the quiet part out loud:Quote: GenoDRPh
Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency...
What I get from that is that you reserve the right to treat people as badly as you wish, as long as you call them a racist first. Because in contemporary discourse that's all "racist" really is, it's a disparaging term you call someone. The word was coined in the early 20th century by [devotees of an international totalitarian movement] and it does have a definition, but in actual usage its meaning is arbitrary, capricious, self-defined for everyone, and is far more likely to be used as a slur in itself than as a precise descriptive term. Everything from tax cuts to sandwiches to "Jingle Bells" has been proclaimed "racist" by some self-promoter.
Thus, this indecent treatment you have in store for those you deem racist begins and ends with you and whatever is going on in your mind, and those of us who study real history know how bad that can go. There was a time when if somebody had something you wanted, you didn't call them "racist" but you called them "witch" or "heretic," then you got to burn them alive and take their stuff. Then there was a time and place where you called them "Jew" and burned their books, loaded them on to boxcars and took their property. All of these things are the same to me, and in schematic form they can be broken down to what you said: "It's OK to be malevolent and malefic towards someone if they have been adjudged by me to have this character flaw that I define and have put myself in charge of determining." Today it leads to violence in our society, including the kind where one might believe it is OK to murder someone for promoting ideas with which you disagree, and being we all have people who disagree with us it makes us all targets. I think you would do those things to me, if you were sure you could get away with it.
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Your posts tend to be way too long. But this one is worth every word. Geno likes to call me racist because I am fervently against DEI. Which to me is an actual policy that ‘racists’ will support. Almost by definition, actually.
If you really can’t make a good argument, and are a liberal, just throw out the word ‘racist.
Forgot this is celebrity deaths thread. I’ll take a whipping for hijacking.
January 15th, 2026 at 9:52:20 AM
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Quote: billryanIf a lumberjack chooses to identify as a ballerina, who are you to argue with them?
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Identifying while acting contrary is different than identifying and acting in accordance. However, I'm fine with addressing anyone as a lumberjack whether a lumberjack or not if that's what they prefer.
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January 15th, 2026 at 10:10:09 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhSo I got AZDuffman and his knickers in a twist because I mentioned well known racism that somehow Duffy defends. I got the usual Automatic Monkey's dizzying word salad, with an admonishing to go back to bottling my pills and I have Dieter scolding me for not being decent enough to wait until the body is in the ground until I commented about the deceased heel turn, as if every headline that reported his demise didn't mention the same thing above the fold, as it were. That tells me one thing: If they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right...
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Here's what set me, and probably some others off: you said the quiet part out loud:Quote: GenoDRPh
Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency...
What I get from that is that you reserve the right to treat people as badly as you wish, as long as you call them a racist first. Because in contemporary discourse that's all "racist" really is, it's a disparaging term you call someone. The word was coined in the early 20th century by [devotees of an international totalitarian movement] and it does have a definition, but in actual usage its meaning is arbitrary, capricious, self-defined for everyone, and is far more likely to be used as a slur in itself than as a precise descriptive term. Everything from tax cuts to sandwiches to "Jingle Bells" has been proclaimed "racist" by some self-promoter.
Thus, this indecent treatment you have in store for those you deem racist begins and ends with you and whatever is going on in your mind, and those of us who study real history know how bad that can go. There was a time when if somebody had something you wanted, you didn't call them "racist" but you called them "witch" or "heretic," then you got to burn them alive and take their stuff. Then there was a time and place where you called them "Jew" and burned their books, loaded them on to boxcars and took their property. All of these things are the same to me, and in schematic form they can be broken down to what you said: "It's OK to be malevolent and malefic towards someone if they have been adjudged by me to have this character flaw that I define and have put myself in charge of determining." Today it leads to violence in our society, including the kind where one might believe it is OK to murder someone for promoting ideas with which you disagree, and being we all have people who disagree with us it makes us all targets. I think you would do those things to me, if you were sure you could get away with it.
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Your posts tend to be way too long. But this one is worth every word. Geno likes to call me racist because I am fervently against DEI. Which to me is an actual policy that ‘racists’ will support. Almost by definition, actually.
If you really can’t make a good argument, and are a liberal, just throw out the word ‘racist.
Forgot this is celebrity deaths thread. I’ll take a whipping for hijacking.
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You got me, doc. Racism only exists because those demonic liberals use the word...liberally. As they say in some parts of the country,that dog don't hunt.
To the best of my recollection, that's an adjective I've never used on you. I've used others, yes, and can defend my opinion and assessment. But if one you doesn't want to labeled a racist, don't say or do racist things.It isn't that hard.
And why are you importing drama from other forums? Have I not given you stock tips when asked? Have I not congratulated you on your sports betting wins, especially when Boston/NE teams help?
Let's drop the subtopic and drama and stay on celebrity deaths.
January 15th, 2026 at 10:12:01 AM
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Quote: billryanFormer Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich died suddenly over the weekend at age 59. He was one of the leaders in the attempt to overturn the 2020 election. After he left office, he wanted to run for Governor, but Trump declined to endorse him.
He was nominated as Ambassador to Serbia last year, but the administration quietly withdrew his nomination.
The unofficial cause of death is a heart attack, and he is survived by a wife and two daughters.
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Usually when a nomination is quietly withdrawn, it means there is little support for the nomination in the Senate.
January 15th, 2026 at 10:54:53 AM
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Quote: rxwineQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhSo I got AZDuffman and his knickers in a twist because I mentioned well known racism that somehow Duffy defends. I got the usual Automatic Monkey's dizzying word salad, with an admonishing to go back to bottling my pills and I have Dieter scolding me for not being decent enough to wait until the body is in the ground until I commented about the deceased heel turn, as if every headline that reported his demise didn't mention the same thing above the fold, as it were. That tells me one thing: If they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right...
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Here's what set me, and probably some others off: you said the quiet part out loud:Quote: GenoDRPh
Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency...
What I get from that is that you reserve the right to treat people as badly as you wish, as long as you call them a racist first. Because in contemporary discourse that's all "racist" really is, it's a disparaging term you call someone. The word was coined in the early 20th century by [devotees of an international totalitarian movement] and it does have a definition, but in actual usage its meaning is arbitrary, capricious, self-defined for everyone, and is far more likely to be used as a slur in itself than as a precise descriptive term. Everything from tax cuts to sandwiches to "Jingle Bells" has been proclaimed "racist" by some self-promoter.
Thus, this indecent treatment you have in store for those you deem racist begins and ends with you and whatever is going on in your mind, and those of us who study real history know how bad that can go. There was a time when if somebody had something you wanted, you didn't call them "racist" but you called them "witch" or "heretic," then you got to burn them alive and take their stuff. Then there was a time and place where you called them "Jew" and burned their books, loaded them on to boxcars and took their property. All of these things are the same to me, and in schematic form they can be broken down to what you said: "It's OK to be malevolent and malefic towards someone if they have been adjudged by me to have this character flaw that I define and have put myself in charge of determining." Today it leads to violence in our society, including the kind where one might believe it is OK to murder someone for promoting ideas with which you disagree, and being we all have people who disagree with us it makes us all targets. I think you would do those things to me, if you were sure you could get away with it.
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Not sure what you're arguing. Someone could tell me that they work in a forest, cut down trees, send them down a river, for processing to be sawed into various lengths for use in make various products using wood. And then deny that they doing nothing related to logging, or wood cutter, or anything related to what they actually do. So, I'm not supposed to call them that?
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What if you're not sure they ever really cut down a tree? But some guy said he saw him do it once. And here's a picture of him- he's wearing boots and picking an apple off a tree!
"What, that's doesn't mean he's a lumberjack."
"There's a tree involved, isn't there? And breaking the stem of the apple is cutting part of the tree, right, So, same thing! And if you don't agree, you're probably a lumberjack too!"
Notice what's missing from all this- what the heck did Scott Adams ever actually do that was racist? I've only heard it as one of those "everybody knows" things. Where if you don't agree, you are clearly "one of them."
January 15th, 2026 at 11:29:35 AM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: rxwineQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhSo I got AZDuffman and his knickers in a twist because I mentioned well known racism that somehow Duffy defends. I got the usual Automatic Monkey's dizzying word salad, with an admonishing to go back to bottling my pills and I have Dieter scolding me for not being decent enough to wait until the body is in the ground until I commented about the deceased heel turn, as if every headline that reported his demise didn't mention the same thing above the fold, as it were. That tells me one thing: If they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right...
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Here's what set me, and probably some others off: you said the quiet part out loud:Quote: GenoDRPh
Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency...
What I get from that is that you reserve the right to treat people as badly as you wish, as long as you call them a racist first. Because in contemporary discourse that's all "racist" really is, it's a disparaging term you call someone. The word was coined in the early 20th century by [devotees of an international totalitarian movement] and it does have a definition, but in actual usage its meaning is arbitrary, capricious, self-defined for everyone, and is far more likely to be used as a slur in itself than as a precise descriptive term. Everything from tax cuts to sandwiches to "Jingle Bells" has been proclaimed "racist" by some self-promoter.
Thus, this indecent treatment you have in store for those you deem racist begins and ends with you and whatever is going on in your mind, and those of us who study real history know how bad that can go. There was a time when if somebody had something you wanted, you didn't call them "racist" but you called them "witch" or "heretic," then you got to burn them alive and take their stuff. Then there was a time and place where you called them "Jew" and burned their books, loaded them on to boxcars and took their property. All of these things are the same to me, and in schematic form they can be broken down to what you said: "It's OK to be malevolent and malefic towards someone if they have been adjudged by me to have this character flaw that I define and have put myself in charge of determining." Today it leads to violence in our society, including the kind where one might believe it is OK to murder someone for promoting ideas with which you disagree, and being we all have people who disagree with us it makes us all targets. I think you would do those things to me, if you were sure you could get away with it.
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Not sure what you're arguing. Someone could tell me that they work in a forest, cut down trees, send them down a river, for processing to be sawed into various lengths for use in make various products using wood. And then deny that they doing nothing related to logging, or wood cutter, or anything related to what they actually do. So, I'm not supposed to call them that?
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What if you're not sure they ever really cut down a tree? But some guy said he saw him do it once. And here's a picture of him- he's wearing boots and picking an apple off a tree!
"What, that's doesn't mean he's a lumberjack."
"There's a tree involved, isn't there? And breaking the stem of the apple is cutting part of the tree, right, So, same thing! And if you don't agree, you're probably a lumberjack too!"
Notice what's missing from all this- what the heck did Scott Adams ever actually do that was racist? I've only heard it as one of those "everybody knows" things. Where if you don't agree, you are clearly "one of them."
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You could always read the news and reports of his death to learn and find out for yourself.
January 15th, 2026 at 1:18:01 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: SOOPOOQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhSo I got AZDuffman and his knickers in a twist because I mentioned well known racism that somehow Duffy defends. I got the usual Automatic Monkey's dizzying word salad, with an admonishing to go back to bottling my pills and I have Dieter scolding me for not being decent enough to wait until the body is in the ground until I commented about the deceased heel turn, as if every headline that reported his demise didn't mention the same thing above the fold, as it were. That tells me one thing: If they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right...
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Here's what set me, and probably some others off: you said the quiet part out loud:Quote: GenoDRPh
Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency...
What I get from that is that you reserve the right to treat people as badly as you wish, as long as you call them a racist first. Because in contemporary discourse that's all "racist" really is, it's a disparaging term you call someone. The word was coined in the early 20th century by [devotees of an international totalitarian movement] and it does have a definition, but in actual usage its meaning is arbitrary, capricious, self-defined for everyone, and is far more likely to be used as a slur in itself than as a precise descriptive term. Everything from tax cuts to sandwiches to "Jingle Bells" has been proclaimed "racist" by some self-promoter.
Thus, this indecent treatment you have in store for those you deem racist begins and ends with you and whatever is going on in your mind, and those of us who study real history know how bad that can go. There was a time when if somebody had something you wanted, you didn't call them "racist" but you called them "witch" or "heretic," then you got to burn them alive and take their stuff. Then there was a time and place where you called them "Jew" and burned their books, loaded them on to boxcars and took their property. All of these things are the same to me, and in schematic form they can be broken down to what you said: "It's OK to be malevolent and malefic towards someone if they have been adjudged by me to have this character flaw that I define and have put myself in charge of determining." Today it leads to violence in our society, including the kind where one might believe it is OK to murder someone for promoting ideas with which you disagree, and being we all have people who disagree with us it makes us all targets. I think you would do those things to me, if you were sure you could get away with it.
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Your posts tend to be way too long. But this one is worth every word. Geno likes to call me racist because I am fervently against DEI. Which to me is an actual policy that ‘racists’ will support. Almost by definition, actually.
If you really can’t make a good argument, and are a liberal, just throw out the word ‘racist.
Forgot this is celebrity deaths thread. I’ll take a whipping for hijacking.
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You got me, doc. Racism only exists because those demonic liberals use the word...liberally. As they say in some parts of the country,that dog don't hunt.
To the best of my recollection, that's an adjective I've never used on you. I've used others, yes, and can defend my opinion and assessment. But if one you doesn't want to labeled a racist, don't say or do racist things.It isn't that hard.
And why are you importing drama from other forums? Have I not given you stock tips when asked? Have I not congratulated you on your sports betting wins, especially when Boston/NE teams help?
Let's drop the subtopic and drama and stay on celebrity deaths.
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Fair enough. I already quasi apologized for my hijack.
Here’s my general feeling on ‘celebrity’ deaths. Our discussion is dominated by deaths of musicians, actors, and sports figures. I just don’t see the interest in discussing the OD death of a bassist from an 80’s band, or a great ‘character actor’ who just was…. a person who acted.
January 15th, 2026 at 2:35:57 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: GenoDRPh**snip**
Let's drop the subtopic and drama and stay on celebrity deaths.
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Fair enough. I already quasi apologized for my hijack.
Here’s my general feeling on ‘celebrity’ deaths. Our discussion is dominated by deaths of musicians, actors, and sports figures. I just don’t see the interest in discussing the OD death of a bassist from an 80’s band, or a great ‘character actor’ who just was…. a person who acted.
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Amen. Very good. Re-focus on celebrity deaths. Please. Thank you.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
January 15th, 2026 at 3:06:08 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: SOOPOOQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhSo I got AZDuffman and his knickers in a twist because I mentioned well known racism that somehow Duffy defends. I got the usual Automatic Monkey's dizzying word salad, with an admonishing to go back to bottling my pills and I have Dieter scolding me for not being decent enough to wait until the body is in the ground until I commented about the deceased heel turn, as if every headline that reported his demise didn't mention the same thing above the fold, as it were. That tells me one thing: If they're mad at me, it means I must be doing something right...
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Here's what set me, and probably some others off: you said the quiet part out loud:Quote: GenoDRPh
Racism is an indecency that does not deserve decency...
What I get from that is that you reserve the right to treat people as badly as you wish, as long as you call them a racist first. Because in contemporary discourse that's all "racist" really is, it's a disparaging term you call someone. The word was coined in the early 20th century by [devotees of an international totalitarian movement] and it does have a definition, but in actual usage its meaning is arbitrary, capricious, self-defined for everyone, and is far more likely to be used as a slur in itself than as a precise descriptive term. Everything from tax cuts to sandwiches to "Jingle Bells" has been proclaimed "racist" by some self-promoter.
Thus, this indecent treatment you have in store for those you deem racist begins and ends with you and whatever is going on in your mind, and those of us who study real history know how bad that can go. There was a time when if somebody had something you wanted, you didn't call them "racist" but you called them "witch" or "heretic," then you got to burn them alive and take their stuff. Then there was a time and place where you called them "Jew" and burned their books, loaded them on to boxcars and took their property. All of these things are the same to me, and in schematic form they can be broken down to what you said: "It's OK to be malevolent and malefic towards someone if they have been adjudged by me to have this character flaw that I define and have put myself in charge of determining." Today it leads to violence in our society, including the kind where one might believe it is OK to murder someone for promoting ideas with which you disagree, and being we all have people who disagree with us it makes us all targets. I think you would do those things to me, if you were sure you could get away with it.
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Your posts tend to be way too long. But this one is worth every word. Geno likes to call me racist because I am fervently against DEI. Which to me is an actual policy that ‘racists’ will support. Almost by definition, actually.
If you really can’t make a good argument, and are a liberal, just throw out the word ‘racist.
Forgot this is celebrity deaths thread. I’ll take a whipping for hijacking.
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You got me, doc. Racism only exists because those demonic liberals use the word...liberally. As they say in some parts of the country,that dog don't hunt.
To the best of my recollection, that's an adjective I've never used on you. I've used others, yes, and can defend my opinion and assessment. But if one you doesn't want to labeled a racist, don't say or do racist things.It isn't that hard.
And why are you importing drama from other forums? Have I not given you stock tips when asked? Have I not congratulated you on your sports betting wins, especially when Boston/NE teams help?
Let's drop the subtopic and drama and stay on celebrity deaths.
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Fair enough. I already quasi apologized for my hijack.
Here’s my general feeling on ‘celebrity’ deaths. Our discussion is dominated by deaths of musicians, actors, and sports figures. I just don’t see the interest in discussing the OD death of a bassist from an 80’s band, or a great ‘character actor’ who just was…. a person who acted.
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Celebrities can be anyone in the public eye. We are interested in them for multiple reasons and their lives are noteworthy in some form or fashion at one point.
January 15th, 2026 at 4:03:05 PM
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Celebrities are people too. (I think)
Could be avatars all the way down.
Had no idea there was a 2024 movie of the same name.
Could be avatars all the way down.
Quote:there's no ultimate foundation, representing an infinite regress where every explanation requires another, like a giant turtle holding the world, but that turtle rests on another, and so on forever
Had no idea there was a 2024 movie of the same name.
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January 15th, 2026 at 4:38:26 PM
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Has anyone seen any comments by Conan O'Brien about the Rob Reiner murder? I haven't, but I understand that both Rob and his son were at Conan's house that night and they got into a fight there.
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
