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2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.

One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.

It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.

https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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Carl Reiner was Jewish so of course Rob Reiner is Jewish. So Meathead came to a bad end. All in the Family was the funniest show on TV and I doubt if you could show a single episode of it now in prime time. Every episode was politically Incorrect and offended somebody.
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There were some nice guest stars in the series. Sammy Davis of course, and Reggie Jackson was in an episode with prolific character actor Barry Gordon as his lawyer.

You couldn't do the Archie Bunker character at all now, and mostly because of his positive characteristics. He had some archaic attitudes (which were just barely archaic in 1971 when the series debuted) but aside from that he was a very kind and decent fellow. And that's the part that would cause alarm, because with the melodramatic absolutism that holds sway now portraying him as anything but unalloyed evil would be taken as an endorsement of the archaic attitudes.
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There's a reason why "archaic"attitudes" are called "archaic". Best to leave them in the past.
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Best, for whom? Who has the right to tell me that a new idea is better than a traditional one? Most such arguments are just appeals to authority, and power.

This played out a lot in the interaction between Archie and Meathead. Archie had the ideas common among working class men of his generation, and Meathead was into the goofy hippie stuff. And both were equally at a loss to explain to the other how their way was "better," even to the absurdity of the order in which you put on your shoes and socks. That's because neither one really was better, just how it is seen from different perspectives. Those goofy hippies are all old men now and they are all different from their former selves as well.

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2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.

One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.

It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.

https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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Carl Reiner was Jewish so of course Rob Reiner is Jewish. So Meathead came to a bad end. All in the Family was the funniest show on TV and I doubt if you could show a single episode of it now in prime time. Every episode was politically Incorrect and offended somebody.
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There were some nice guest stars in the series. Sammy Davis of course, and Reggie Jackson was in an episode with prolific character actor Barry Gordon as his lawyer.

You couldn't do the Archie Bunker character at all now, and mostly because of his positive characteristics. He had some archaic attitudes (which were just barely archaic in 1971 when the series debuted) but aside from that he was a very kind and decent fellow. And that's the part that would cause alarm, because with the melodramatic absolutism that holds sway now portraying him as anything but unalloyed evil would be taken as an endorsement of the archaic attitudes.
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There's a reason why "archaic"attitudes" are called "archaic". Best to leave them in the past.
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Best, for whom? Who has the right to tell me that a new idea is better than a traditional one? Most such arguments are just appeals to authority, and power.

This played out a lot in the interaction between Archie and Meathead. Archie had the ideas common among working class men of his generation, and Meathead was into the goofy hippie stuff. And both were equally at a loss to explain to the other how their way was "better," even to the absurdity of the order in which you put on your shoes and socks. That's because neither one really was better, just how it is seen from different perspectives. Those goofy hippies are all old men now and they are all different from their former selves as well.
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Yeah, why can't you seem to grasp the idea that the Archie Bunker type racism isn't acceptable, whether those ideas were common among working class men of a certain generation or not?

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Who has the right to tell me that a new idea is better than a traditional one?

Everybody in a free society has the right to tell you anything.

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2 dead people found at address associated with Rob Reiner.

One is same age as Rob Reiner. That's all that is being reported.
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Confirmed as of 15 minutes ago.

It's Rob Reiner and his wife. Stabbed to death. Homicide investigation started.

https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/14/rob-reiner-wife-michele-found-dead-los-angeles-home/
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Hmm, First thing I thought, is he's Jewish. Don't know if there is a connection. Dad was Carl Reiner. Kind of a famous family. Well, at least if you're not Gen z
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Carl Reiner was Jewish so of course Rob Reiner is Jewish. So Meathead came to a bad end. All in the Family was the funniest show on TV and I doubt if you could show a single episode of it now in prime time. Every episode was politically Incorrect and offended somebody.
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There were some nice guest stars in the series. Sammy Davis of course, and Reggie Jackson was in an episode with prolific character actor Barry Gordon as his lawyer.

You couldn't do the Archie Bunker character at all now, and mostly because of his positive characteristics. He had some archaic attitudes (which were just barely archaic in 1971 when the series debuted) but aside from that he was a very kind and decent fellow. And that's the part that would cause alarm, because with the melodramatic absolutism that holds sway now portraying him as anything but unalloyed evil would be taken as an endorsement of the archaic attitudes.
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There's a reason why "archaic"attitudes" are called "archaic". Best to leave them in the past.
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Best, for whom? Who has the right to tell me that a new idea is better than a traditional one? Most such arguments are just appeals to authority, and power.

This played out a lot in the interaction between Archie and Meathead. Archie had the ideas common among working class men of his generation, and Meathead was into the goofy hippie stuff. And both were equally at a loss to explain to the other how their way was "better," even to the absurdity of the order in which you put on your shoes and socks. That's because neither one really was better, just how it is seen from different perspectives. Those goofy hippies are all old men now and they are all different from their former selves as well.
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Yeah, why can't you seem to grasp the idea that racism isn't acceptable?
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Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize this thread was about me, and about racism.

I was under the impression it was about deceased celebrities, and that we were discussing their lives and their work, like the intelligent and accomplished people who frequent this site might be interested in, instead of recriminations against other site members, like other kinds of people might be interested in.

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Yeah, why can't you seem to grasp the idea that the Archie Bunker type racism isn't acceptable, whether those ideas were common among working class men of a certain generation or not?
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What you mean to say is, it's not acceptable today at this time where we live. But it's still very acceptable in much of the world and has been throughout history and always will be. You cannot change Human Nature.

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Yeah, why can't you seem to grasp the idea that the Archie Bunker type racism isn't acceptable, whether those ideas were common among working class men of a certain generation or not?
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What you mean to say is, it's not acceptable today at this time where we live. But it's still very acceptable in much of the world and has been throughout history and always will be. You cannot change Human Nature.
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Funny, since people were marrying girls as young as 13 in some states 60 years ago, I didn't expect the following:

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During George Washington's time (mid-18th century colonial America), the average marrying age was around 20 for women and 26 for men, though it varied, with many marrying earlier than later European counterparts, and Washington himself married Martha at 26, while she was a 27-year-old widow.

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Yeah, why can't you seem to grasp the idea that the Archie Bunker type racism isn't acceptable, whether those ideas were common among working class men of a certain generation or not?
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What you mean to say is, it's not acceptable today at this time where we live. But it's still very acceptable in much of the world and has been throughout history and always will be. You cannot change Human Nature.
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Funny, since people were marrying girls as young as 13 in some states 60 years ago, I didn't expect the following:

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During George Washington's time (mid-18th century colonial America), the average marrying age was around 20 for women and 26 for men, though it varied, with many marrying earlier than later European counterparts, and Washington himself married Martha at 26, while she was a 27-year-old widow.

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Something that is rarely mentioned is that almost half of the white immigrants to America in George Washington's time arrived as Indentured Servants and weren't allowed to marry until they had fulfilled their four to seven-year obligations. It was almost impossible for a lad from an Irish farm to save up enough money for passage on a ship.