Boz
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July 5th, 2019 at 1:58:49 PM permalink
Axel’s an AP, he is just betting the odds based on what he observed. Probably the Best Bet of the year. Liberal defenders of welfare always try to justify it with this nonsense. When the bottom line is a huge percentage of ‘cipients as I call them have us paying for their bad life decisions.

No shame in helping someone back on their feet, but they have to decide to stand up. Sadly instead we have created dependency instead of making changes in their life. And I refuse to believe most are not capable of it, I just believe they will take the easy way out.

Why get a 2nd job to feed your family when they guy who did will pay for you not to?
MaxPen
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July 5th, 2019 at 2:08:51 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Axel’s an AP, he is just betting the odds based on what he observed. Probably the Best Bet of the year. Liberal defenders of welfare always try to justify it with this nonsense. When the bottom line is a huge percentage of ‘cipients as I call them have us paying for their bad life decisions.

No shame in helping someone back on their feet, but they have to decide to stand up. Sadly instead we have created dependency instead of making changes in their life. And I refuse to believe most are not capable of it, I just believe they will take the easy way out.

Why get a 2nd job to feed your family when they guy who did will pay for you not to?



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TomG
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July 5th, 2019 at 2:17:17 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Why get a 2nd job to feed your family when they guy who did will pay for you not to?



A much more important question is why so many put any blame on the people who benefits from the welfare state in order to take blame away from the welfare state itself?

It really doesn't matter that it's "easy way out" or not. All that matters is that it is an available way out at all. So long as that way is available, there will be an endless number of people cycling through it as much as possible. Focusing any energy and effort on them without closing their path is both wasteful and allows it to continue forever. It seems that's how most people want it (especially the people in power). Create a surefire way to turn a segment of our own people into villains, then vilify them.
darkoz
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July 5th, 2019 at 2:34:29 PM permalink
I keep seeing comments like

"I am all for helping the needy"

Followed by

"But i am convinced the needy can stop being lazy amd help themselves rather than those well off doing it."

Seems contradictory.

No one leftie or rightie advocates for welfare fraud. If people dont deserve welfare handouts are taking them we should all agree they need to be kicked off the welfare rolls or even have charges pressed.

Which brings us to the truly needy.

If the only issue is fraud then we need better fraud protections. Thats not a slight on those who collect welfare that truly need it.

Unless your argument is needy people should never receive help. In that case stop trying to look like a nice hearted person by prefacing your disgust with statements like "I have nothing against helping those in need EXCEPT..."
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ChumpChange
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July 5th, 2019 at 5:12:49 PM permalink
A fast food combo meal is running $10-$15. Food Stamps only pays $3-$6 a day. #FightFor15
MaxPen
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July 5th, 2019 at 5:14:51 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

A fast food combo meal is running $10-$15. Food Stamps only pays $3-$6 a day.



That's because the gov is lying about inflation. Their numbers need to be multiplied by 2.5.
AxelWolf
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tringlomane
July 5th, 2019 at 5:31:31 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz




Its possible these people honestly reported their income and quaified.

It's possible someone rolled 18 yo's in a row, but I will bet the NO.

Can one report their drug sales , pimping, hooking, and theft earnings and still get SNAP?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
ChumpChange
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July 5th, 2019 at 5:32:02 PM permalink
The rent for a 1 bedroom apartment in many big cities is already at $2500 a month. Workers at McD's would have to be working for $80 an hour part time to get out of their parent's basement. Poverty level could be near $100,000/year based on affordable housing.
MaxPen
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July 5th, 2019 at 5:41:49 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

The rent for a 1 bedroom apartment in many big cities is already at $2500 a month. Workers at McD's would have to be working for $80 an hour part time to get out of their parent's basement. Poverty level could be near $100,000/year based on affordable housing.



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rxwine
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July 5th, 2019 at 7:15:29 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I went to Walmart today to get some steak and other stuff to grill. When I got to the meat section there was a black couple in their late 20's and their 3 young toddlers (one called out daddy so I must assume it was their dad) blocking the T-bone's while they were loading the T-bones up in their already packed cart, I noticed a big bad of frozen Jumbo shrimp. That's a good thing since It made me remember I needed some as well. After they moved on, I gabbed a few T-bones for myself. A while later when I arrived at the self checkout the same family was also at self check-out-stand to my right waiting on an attendant to fix a problem. I heard the attendant asking if they were trying to using their snap benefits, they replied, yes. They also had a big bag pf charcoal and other BBQ stuff and a bunch of chips.
Once I pied for my stuff I headed for my car. On the way to my car I noticed the same family loading up their stuff in a Cadillac Escalade. I have no clue what year it was, but it looked fairly new to me. The guy looked big, healthy and very fit to me(Romes would have been all excited (-;).

I have no idea why this type of shopping with SNAP is allowed. There doesn't seem to be any motivation for them to get off the program when you are eating like that.

Don't get me started on them allowing people to use it at the 7-11.



One may have called him daddy, but they could be unmarried and she is on assistance with 2 of her own kids. If the new guy skips out, she's on her own again. (that's just a possible explanation)
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?

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