The truth about marriage
Quote: MrVYou're swimming in the shallow end of human existence.
Oh sure, your current activity might be "fun" for you but it is neither meaningful nor worthwhile to society.
For that, you need to reproduce, or adopt and raise children: THAT is where the rubber meets the road, and it is the highest and best purpose of any member of any society: hell, it's the meaning of life.
For various reasons, I have chosen to not have children - does that mean my life is neither meaningful nor worthwhile to society?
Quote: RogerKintI think we can all agree these girls out here need to quit it with the tattoos.
I love tattoos on these girls - they can be quite sexy -- ever check out Suicide Girls ?
https://winnersandwhiners.com/games/nba/1-27-2019/cleveland-cavaliers-vs-chicago-bulls-prediction-4286/
Quote: beachbumbabsZK makes a great argument for gelding, I'll give him that.
In the horse world, gelding helps improve the horse’s focus. This typically makes them a better racehorse.
I imagine the same could occur for counting in BJ. He could be unstoppable!
Seems like a +ev move.
Quote: aceofspadesI love tattoos on these girls - they can be quite sexy -- ever check out Suicide Girls ?
Bleeehhh I'd click the link but would like to achieve an erection at some point in the future. Tattooing cuties should be a crime like scribbling on the Mona Lisa. We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one, Ace!
Quote: RogerKintBleeehhh ....Tattooing cuties should be a crime like scribbling on the Mona Lisa.
Fishing Without Tattoos
Quote: RogerKintQuote: aceofspadesI love tattoos on these girls - they can be quite sexy -- ever check out Suicide Girls ?
Bleeehhh I'd click the link but would like to achieve an erection at some point in the future. Tattooing cuties should be a crime like scribbling on the Mona Lisa. We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one, Ace!
Different strokes :)
Quote: aceofspadesQuote: RogerKintQuote: aceofspadesI love tattoos on these girls - they can be quite sexy -- ever check out Suicide Girls ?
Bleeehhh I'd click the link but would like to achieve an erection at some point in the future. Tattooing cuties should be a crime like scribbling on the Mona Lisa. We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one, Ace!
Different strokes :)
Strokes? Hey hey hey. Hahaha
Quote: aceofspadesFor various reasons, I have chosen to not have children - does that mean my life is neither meaningful nor worthwhile to society?
No, it's because you are a lawyer.....
(Sorry, too easy!)
Quote: beachbumbabsZK makes a great argument for gelding, I'll give him that.
Gelding himself, anyway.
Quote: aceofspadesFor various reasons, I have chosen to not have children - does that mean my life is neither meaningful nor worthwhile to society?
Biologically it is not meaningful, as the unbroken chain of conception and birth which began eons ago and which lead to your creation and birth will be staunched, and that life line will end.
Otherwise there is only whatever ephemeral "meaning" which you and the others in the world choose to ascribe and to allow to each other via moral, political, and religious / philosophical beliefs.
Quote: beachbumbabsZK makes a great argument for gelding, I'll give him that.
Not a terrible argument for retroactive abortions, either. Think of all the pain we'd be saving him from.
Quote: MrVBiologically it is not meaningful,
Reminds me of a line from Deadwood.
Jack McCall, the guy who shoot's Wild
Bill Hickok, is a true waste of space.
As he staggers away from the poker
table, filthy and drunk, one of the players
quips "Jack is disgusting." Another
player says "Yet he too is one of gods
children." In a voice dripping with sarcasm.
Implying having a kid is sometimes about
as 'meaningful' as having a good bowel
movement..
How do we know and who can say?
If you feel their lives are devoid of meaning or purpose, why should people be singled out for special treatment?
The point which I am inartfuly trying to make is that the goal of all life-forms is continue on and to perpetuate itself, and nothing more.
Everything else is optional.
Quote: MrVIs there meaning and/or purpose to the life of an ant, a frog, an amoeba?
How do we know and who can say?
If you feel their lives are devoid of meaning or purpose, why should people be singled out for special treatment?
The point which I am inartfuly trying to make is that the goal of all life-forms is continue on and to perpetuate itself, and nothing more.
Everything else is optional.
Even procreation is meaningless unless the perpetuation of the species - beyond biological imperative - has an ultimate meaning beyond mere perpetuation
Quote: MrVIs there meaning and/or purpose to the life of an ant, a frog, an amoeba?
How do we know and who can say?
If you feel their lives are devoid of meaning or purpose, why should people be singled out for special treatment?
The point which I am inartfuly trying to make is that the goal of all life-forms is continue on and to perpetuate itself, and nothing more.
Everything else is optional.
It takes a village. And more than a biological spawning to create and raise a worthwhile human.
Quote: MrV
The point which I am inartfuly trying to make is that the goal of all life-forms is continue on and to perpetuate itself,
Even animals quit reproducing when there
are too many of them. The only purpose
and meaning life has is what you give it.
You create your own reality.
Quote: EvenBobEven animals quit reproducing when there
are too many of them. The only purpose
and meaning life has is what you give it.
You create your own reality.
Ask yourself what drives animals such as lemmings to do this?
Certainly it is not an intellectual choice, as they are without sentience.
It is instinct which drives them, as it drives all animals, people included.
Instinct could be viewed as the actualization of life moving to protect itself from collective extinction.
Quote: aceofspadesFor various reasons, I have chosen to not have children - does that mean my life is neither meaningful nor worthwhile to society?
It doesn't help. It depends what else you are doing with your life!
Quote: billryanNot a terrible argument for retroactive abortions, either. Think of all the pain we'd be saving him from.
Yea I know Bill won’t see this and I’m not big on suspensions here but really?
So can someone ask Billy Boy if he thinks ZK should have been an abortion? Or should he be “aborted” now?
So he thinks someone would be doing a good deed killing (yes abortion is death) ZK at this point in his life to save him from pain?
Really? Is this what we are down to? And to think people are suspended for “insults” to others on here.
Trust me, I’m no ZK fan but this goes beyond common decency, something I have been accused of ignoring many times.
Thanks Billy for showing how you really feel about another member here.
Quote: billryanNot a terrible argument for retroactive abortions, either. Think of all the pain we'd be saving him from.
ZKs prusuits reminds me of Sheldon Cooper quote from Big Bang Theory when he is talking about Wolowitz's job as an engineer.
SC: "You're obviously good at what you do."
HW: "Then why do you keep ripping at me".
SC: "Oh I understand the confusion. I never said you're not good at what you do. It's just that want you do isn't worth doing."
It does not take a great amount of skill to be able to count cards, memorize plays and execute them in live play. It takes basic memorization and practice. There are how-tos all over the internet and plenty of advice one can glean to avoid heat and be successful. It also takes discipline.
And while I envy being free and clear at age 28, I think that the ability to make five figures over years counting cards while living rent-free with mommy and daddy is nothing to gloat about. Oodles of other 20-somethings have done fat greater (in my opinion) things, including and not limited to helping others via volunteerism, being a great parent, working to improve society, starting a viable business and becoming an employer and so on.
But hey it's your life and you are its king.
Quote: BozYea I know Bill won’t see this and I’m not big on suspensions here but really?
So can someone ask Billy Boy if he thinks ZK should have been an abortion? Or should he be “aborted” now?
So he thinks someone would be doing a good deed killing (yes abortion is death) ZK at this point in his life to save him from pain?
Really? Is this what we are down to? And to think people are suspended for “insults” to others on here.
Trust me, I’m no ZK fan but this goes beyond common decency, something I have been accused of ignoring many times.
Thanks Billy for showing how you really feel about another member here.
If only he had made disgusting comments towards ZK’s close family instead of directly at ZK.
That would have been acceptable to you, right?
Quote: gamerfreakIf only he had made disgusting comments towards ZK’s close family instead of directly at ZK.
That would have been acceptable to you, right?
Absolutely, family, like public figures including our President, are free game here, members in good standing are not.
Play by the rules kid or get out of the way.
Until they change them, then adapt.
Either way his comment was disgusting.
She opened the door, he walked through.
Besides, I think the TARGET of the comment is unclear: was it ZK (as you seem to believe) or was it the "drones?"
Quote: MrVLook at it in context, i.e. he quoted BBB's comment about how he makes a good argument for gelding.
She opened the door, he walked through.
Besides, I think the TARGET of the comment is unclear: was it ZK (as you seem to believe) or was it the "drones?"
Not sure “Think of the pain we would be saving HIM from” is unclear.
Drones are a group we are all a part of. In this case Billy’s post is indefensible if you consider abortion after birth murder.
Quote: gamerfreakIf only he had made disgusting comments towards ZK’s close family instead of directly at ZK.
That would have been acceptable to you, right?
So no reply? Are you justifying Billy Ryan saying ZK should be aborted today to save him from the “pain” in his life?
Wow, I get you and Billy are Pro Choice but do you apply it to living people in the name of saving them from future pain?
Marriage seems complicated. I'm pretty open to how people want to do it long as they are happy and aren't hurting anyone.
Quote: MintyI'd bring up assisted suicide on the topic of pain relief,
If it's that bad, just get a divorce, no need for that.
Quote: billryanI think it's kinda cute the way boz keeps asking people to pass notes to me. Brings me back to third grade. I had this mad crush on Christina Siouk. But I digress....
Do you like him back?
YES
or
NO
Quote: boymimboIt doesn't help. It depends what else you are doing with your life!
What would you tell a woman who was born barren or a man born sterile that could not have kids - their life is devoid of meaning as well?
Yes, in "the grand scheme of things" people who do not pass their DNA on to the next generation are not fulfilling the one task imposed upon them by life, i.e. to contribute to the continuation of life.
But the notion of "meaning" is broad and encompasses many things; one's life arguably has whatever meaning one chooses to ascribe to it.
Moral relativism.
Quote: MrVYes and no.
Yes, in "the grand scheme of things" people who do not pass their DNA on to the next generation are not fulfilling the one task imposed upon them by life, i.e. to contribute to the continuation of life.
Humans have a choice, therefore it's
not a 'task', it's an option. Some
choose a different path. There will
always be plenty of people who
supply the earth with so many kids
it will destroy it one day, why have
offspting at all.
