Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: darkozThats the result of voting for a president who makes racist comments openly says he accosts women and calls them names and a history of gerrymandering to suppress the vote
What? You want lefties to ignore the evidence the way righties do?
They just ignore different evidence.
Quote: RonCThey just ignore different evidence.
If by "evidence" you mean, alternative facts....then yeah.
Quote: SteverinosIf by "evidence" you mean, alternative facts....then yeah.
Yeah, of course! Only one side has the "real facts"...because they said so!!
Quote: RonCbecause they said so!!
Or simply because...facts are facts.
Can't wait to see what reasons the GOP find to turn her down. They do NOT want her to testify.
Quote: ams288Dr. Ford says she can testify next week if senators "offer terms that are fair and which ensure her safety." Not on Monday though.
Can't wait to see what reasons the GOP find to turn her down. They do NOT want her to testify.
moving the goalposts, moving the goalposts
delay delay delay
that's the tactic
Show up on Monday and she CAN testify
Quote: Fleaswattermoving the goalposts, moving the goalposts
delay delay delay
that's the tactic
Show up on Monday and she CAN testify
What’s the rush for?
Dow up 170.75 Tuesday
Dow up 117.92 Wednesday
Dow up 251.28 today
Thank you very much President Trump for your economic policies
Before you liberal Obozo sycophants falsely claim President Trump is riding the coattails of Obozo, I suggest you watch the first 10 minutes of the following video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVh6eLSWGVo
Quote: Fleaswattermoving the goalposts, moving the goalposts
delay delay delay
that's the tactic
Show up on Monday and she CAN testify
Even if delay is a tactic, due process is more important. Unless entering late evidence was specifically prohibited, then I believe this should be allowed. Otherwise, it's a true anything-goes kangaroo process if the majority can fix their loophole failures on the fly.
No better than when a casino tries to enforce not paying a player when they don't have a specific rule against something.
BY this I mean they should do the background on this AND allow her to testify
Quote: FleaswatterBefore you liberal Obozo sycophants falsely claim President Trump is riding the coattails of Obozo, I suggest you watch the first 10 minutes of the following video:
Quote: SteverinosOr simply because...facts are facts.
A very simplistic view of the process. Yeah, stand around and holler "facts are facts" but don't bother with they way facts can be manipulated when presented to work for one side or the other.
The fact is that we are having a good run in the economy.
President Obama takes that fact and takes full credit for the great economy.
President Trump takes that fact and takes full credit for the great economy.
Neither one gives the other credit. Neither one is making a 100% factual statement when taking credit for it. Both have at least some responsibility for it...and neither is as responsible as they think they are in their own minds.
Facts are facts...
Quote: RonCA very simplistic view of the process. Yeah, stand around and holler "facts are facts" but don't bother with they way facts can be manipulated when presented to work for one side or the other.
The fact is that we are having a good run in the economy.
President Obama takes that fact and takes full credit for the great economy.
President Trump takes that fact and takes full credit for the great economy.
Neither one gives the other credit. Neither one is making a 100% factual statement when taking credit for it. Both have at least some responsibility for it...and neither is as responsible as they think they are in their own minds.
Facts are facts...
When did Obama "take full credit" for the great economy? By saying, "let's remember when this economic recovery started"?
Your argument starts with a false premise because Obama never "took full credit" for the economy. So we can't have a factual debate about this if you are manipulating and translating for yourself what you WANT or THINK Obama meant.
But...if there's one thing we can agree on, is that presidents don't have as much impact on the economy as we would like to think. And their biggest impacts are felt during times of crisis, something Trump was fortunate enough to not have faced, thanks to policies implemented before he was elected.
Quote: RonCA very simplistic view of the process. Yeah, stand around and holler "facts are facts" but don't bother with they way facts can be manipulated when presented to work for one side or the other.
The fact is that we are having a good run in the economy.
President Obama takes that fact and takes full credit for the great economy.
President Trump takes that fact and takes full credit for the great economy.
Neither one gives the other credit. Neither one is making a 100% factual statement when taking credit for it. Both have at least some responsibility for it...and neither is as responsible as they think they are in their own minds.
Facts are facts...
RonC
This facts debate started when u said lefties claim righties are racist and sexist and trying to suppress the vote
I responded with facts as to why that is
Please answer directly:
1) is it a fact trump said he goes up to women and grabs them by the pussy?
2) is it a fact Trump said Most Mexicans are rapists (they come over here and they are rapists and maybe there are. Few who arent was akin to what he said)
3) is it a fact that republicans have changed voting district lines to the point that there have been recent cohrt decisions stating they did in order to suppress the vote?
If you don't believe any of those things actually happened then it is you who does not believe in facts
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best,” he said in the same speech. “They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
He does not say most Mexicans are rapists. He said the people that Mexico is sending are rapists, some he assumes are good people.
So, only most Mexicans who are sent across the border (and does he mean illegally?) are rapists.
He does not seem to say that most Mexicans are rapists, because I believe most Mexicans never cross the bordrer.
No offense, but if the bottom does drop out of this one, I know i'm gonna have to endure reading "but the lefties said it was still the Obama economy" and that will not be entirely the rightwings fault for saying so.
Like this one today https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/2018/09/20/gop-congressman-jokes-about-ruth-bader-ginsburg-being-groped-by-abraham-lincoln/
Quote: rxwineWhen does the Obama economy end?
No offense, but if the bottom does drop out of this one, I know i'm gonna have to endure reading "but the lefties said it was still the Obama economy" and that will not be entirely the rightwings fault for saying so.
Well, considering they credited the 90s Clinton economy to 80s Reagan policy, then blamed the 2008 recession on 90s Clinton policy, and then blamed Obama for job losses in the first six months of his presidency, who the hell knows what spin they'll put on it.
Quote: darkozAnd then we have republican senators publicly cracking insensitive jokes about women and rape....
Who was raped? Are you making that part up?
Quote: petroglyphWho was raped? Are you making that part up?
The Ford accusation is there was an attempted rape
The joke referred to in my post was of justice Ginsburg being raped by abraham lincoln
Dont worry. If you slow down you can follow along
Turns out there is NO statute of limitations on attempted rape in the state of Maryland
Guess where Kavanaugh is accused of attempting to rape Miss Ford?
So if repubs really embarrass her during her testimony she CAN bring criminal charges against Kavanaugh even if he becomes sitting scotus (there are no protections in place against facing criminal charges for scotus)
Also scotus judges CAN be impeached.
Quote: darkozThe Ford accusation is there was an attempted rape
Quote:The joke referred to in my post was of justice Ginsburg being raped by abraham lincoln
Did you even read the article you provided a link to?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/20/gop-congressman-jokes-about-ruth-bader-ginsburg-being-groped-by-abraham-lincoln/?utm_term=.ca2ca49cba9b
“Did y’all hear this latest late-breaking news on the Kavanaugh hearings?” Rep. Ralph Norman (R) asked the audience at a Kiwanis Club in Rock Hill, S.C., referring to the confirmation hearings of Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh. “Ruth Bader Ginsburg came out saying she was groped by Abraham Lincoln.”
groped NOT raped
Quote:Dont worry. If you slow down you can follow along
Don't worry, if you slow down you can follow the article you provided.
Quote: FleaswatterDid you even read the article you provided a link to?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/20/gop-congressman-jokes-about-ruth-bader-ginsburg-being-groped-by-abraham-lincoln/?utm_term=.ca2ca49cba9b
“Did y’all hear this latest late-breaking news on the Kavanaugh hearings?” Rep. Ralph Norman (R) asked the audience at a Kiwanis Club in Rock Hill, S.C., referring to the confirmation hearings of Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh. “Ruth Bader Ginsburg came out saying she was groped by Abraham Lincoln.”
groped NOT raped
Don't worry, if you slow down you can follow the article you provided.
The joking of a woman having her private parts grabbed falls under the category of rape/molestation jokes
Its sad you dont see that
If you ever have the unfortunate instance to know someone who had their private parts groped please point out to them strongly that they werent raped
Because he purposely ignored science-based climate change, to produce a rocket fueled carbon producing economy for short term greed, scuttling the last real opportunity to take real and carefully measured steps to control warming, bringing on floods, forced human migration, crop devastation. famine and eventual warfare for resources on a global scale. Millions of lives and property will be lost,
You heard it here first.
Vote Democrat or third green parties this midterm. thanks,
Quote: rxwineWhy Donald Trump will become one of the worst U.S. Presidents in history no matter what.
Because he purposely ignored science-based climate change, to produce a rocket fueled carbon producing economy for short term greed, scuttling the last real opportunity to take real and carefully measured steps to control warming, bringing on floods, forced human migration, crop devastation. famine and eventual warfare for resources on a global scale. Millions of lives and property will be lost,
You heard it here first.
Vote Democrat or third green parties this midterm. thanks,
Kook-Aid can be hazardous to your brain housing group.
You think Kook-Aid is hazardous to your brain, Just imagine what inhaling bus fumes while wearing a mask will do to you.Quote: MaxPenQuote: rxwineWhy Donald Trump will become one of the worst U.S. Presidents in history no matter what.
Because he purposely ignored science-based climate change, to produce a rocket fueled carbon producing economy for short term greed, scuttling the last real opportunity to take real and carefully measured steps to control warming, bringing on floods, forced human migration, crop devastation. famine and eventual warfare for resources on a global scale. Millions of lives and property will be lost,
You heard it here first.
Vote Democrat or third green parties this midterm. thanks,
Kook-Aid can be hazardous to your brain housing group.
Is that another one of your jokes?Quote: darkoz......If you ever have the unfortunate instance to know someone who had their private parts groped please point out to them strongly that they werent raped
It's not very funny.
Quote: rxwineWhy Donald Trump will become one of the worst U.S. Presidents in history no matter what.
Because he purposely ignored science-based climate change, to produce a rocket fueled carbon producing economy for short term greed, scuttling the last real opportunity to take real and carefully measured steps to control warming, bringing on floods, forced human migration, crop devastation. famine and eventual warfare for resources on a global scale. Millions of lives and property will be lost,
First the dems systematically use their media to condition the population into becoming a bunch of dumb wusses, then they terrify their sheep with this bull crap. One more scheme to separate their slaves from their money. It’s all about them getting their Carbon Credit Exchange. Nothing more. Not polar bears, or hurricanes, or droughts. They see the poor working slob as nothing more than a human ATM, whose sole purpose is to provide them with revenue to perpetuate their rule.
US Greenhouse Gases Falling Under Trump
US Leads All Countries in Reducing Carbon Emissions
Quote: TankoQuote: rxwineWhy Donald Trump will become one of the worst U.S. Presidents in history no matter what.
Because he purposely ignored science-based climate change, to produce a rocket fueled carbon producing economy for short term greed, scuttling the last real opportunity to take real and carefully measured steps to control warming, bringing on floods, forced human migration, crop devastation. famine and eventual warfare for resources on a global scale. Millions of lives and property will be lost,
First the dems systematically use their media to condition the population into becoming a bunch of dumb wusses, then they terrify their sheep with this bull crap. One more scheme to separate their slaves from their money. It’s all about them getting their Carbon Credit Exchange. Nothing more. Not polar bears, or hurricanes, or droughts. They see the poor working slob as nothing more than a human ATM, whose sole purpose is to provide them with revenue to perpetuate their rule.
US Greenhouse Gases Falling Under Trump
US Leads All Countries in Reducing Carbon Emissions
AS like Wizard's sig line, it's the bet trump and his anti-science cronies are making, not any current outcome that matters. That's why your points are actually sad, and not worthwhile.
I support science, not because I always like the outcomes, or that it gets everything right, but that it's the best method we have, and whatever you support instead is not worth chump change imo.
I support science even when it disagrees with my political views. Chumps do otherwise.
My point was worse case scenario, because it just seems fun to do. I don't need to convince people with my own view, so might as well have fun with the intentional ignorance of the rest.
Quote: petroglyphIs that another one of your jokes?
It's not very funny.
Wow
Maybe I am finally getting through to you
You understood that its NOT funny
So my point in that post that rape jokes (grope jokes whatever) by republican senators is NOT funny
Stop supporting them and defending them
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."
Quote: MrVIt just dawned on me that Trump is a lot like the character "The Wizard of Oz."
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."
Welcome to the party, Mr.V. It's all been tactics. Distract, dismay, offend, polarize, take up the airwaves and oxygen.
Meanwhile, thousands of regulations have been rolled back on consumer financial protection, trade agreements, education, healthcare, and especially environmental concerns. These are big, big deals in both the immediate and long-term health and welfare of the citizens.
There's a fire burning in every wall of our national house, but without the oxygen or light of day, it's smoldering, waiting to explode. It's just charring all the wiring and insulation into uselessness right now. And the administration keeps lighting matches in there while Trump bellers and capers.
Welp. We knew it wouldn’t last.
Quote: ams288Donald has handled the accusations against Kavanaugh relatively well this week and has been surprisingly respectful of the accuser.
Welp. We knew it wouldn’t last.
I guess the donald didnt get the memo
Charges can still be filed 38 years after the fact per maryland law. Keep asking where are the charges and he may find some just filed
Quote: darkoz
If you ever have the unfortunate instance to know someone who had their private parts groped please point out to them strongly that they werent raped
Since you seem to equate groping with rape, do you believe Senator Cory Spartacus Booker should be charged with rape?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/21/in-1992-cory-booker-admitted-to-groping-a-high-school-classmate-and-issued-a-call-for-sexual-respect/?utm_term=.85fa81bf3754
"When he was in high school, Cory Booker, the New Jersey Democrat and possible White House contender, groped his classmate while making out. He reached for her breast, and when she swatted his hand away, he made another attempt."
Quote: Fleaswatter"When he was in high school, Cory Booker, the New Jersey Democrat and possible White House contender, groped his classmate while making out. He reached for her breast, and when she swatted his hand away, he made another attempt."
Wait - I thought righties always pretend Cory Booker is gay?
Quote: darkozQuote: ams288Donald has handled the accusations against Kavanaugh relatively well this week and has been surprisingly respectful of the accuser.
Welp. We knew it wouldn’t last.
I guess the donald didnt get the memo
Charges can still be filed 38 years after the fact per maryland law. Keep asking where are the charges and he may find some just filed
You can charge anyone with anything if you can get the police to cooperate or a grand jury to investigate it...remember, a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich.
Proving the elements of a crime all these years later is next to impossible...beyond a reasonable doubt is a high standard.
But...President Trump should have stayed silent. He was doing well.
"On Monday Sept. 17th, Christine Blasey Ford’s high school yearbooks suddenly disappeared from the web. "
"Faculty Approved Racism, Binge Drinking and Promiscuity"
What are they trying to hide?
I thought all the students at the school were angels.
Like I opined before, the democrats want an fbi investigation, or anything at all they can get their hands on, to delay the confirmation vote until they might be in power. Of course it would be even better for them if they actually managed to dig up some dirt (with proof) that stuck.
The republicans are trying to ram through this woman's testimony as fast as possible, so it is just a "he said she said" - before witnesses can be uncovered or interviewed, other people to come forward. They also don't want to interview someone who may be a 3rd party witness?
Someone else pointed out how seemingly convenient it is that kavenaugh already had statements attesting to his character from 50+ women - statements they did not use until this accusation.
The republicans also wanted an fbi investigation, when the scotus nominee was by a democrat, and now they do not.
at the end of it all, hypocrisy reigns supreme.
Quote: Fleaswatterhttps://cultofthe1st.blogspot.com/2018/09/why-christine-blasey-fords-high-school_19.html?m=1
"On Monday Sept. 17th, Christine Blasey Ford’s high school yearbooks suddenly disappeared from the web. "
"Faculty Approved Racism, Binge Drinking and Promiscuity"
What are they trying to hide?
I thought all the students at the school were angels.
You’re trudging very close to victim blaming here.
When you have no other options, I guess that’s what you gotta do...
Glad I’m not on your side.
Quote: ams288You’re trudging very close to victim blaming here.
There is no proof so far that there is a victim, only an accuser. Unlike many here, I have not taken any position on the guilt or innocence of Kavanaugh.
Quote:When you have no other options, I guess that’s what you gotta do...
Glad I’m not on your side.
I'm glad i am not on your side. I would not like to live in a place where you are guilty until proven innocent
Quote: FleaswatterI'm glad i am not on your side. I would not like to live in a place where you are guilty until proven innocent
Guilty until proven innocent? Your side? Ever hear of the saying, "lock her up"?
Quote: SteverinosGuilty until proven innocent? Your side? Ever hear of the saying, "lock her up"?
Hypocrisy DOES reign supreme.
A very speciuos response.
Even Comey's "exoneration" letter says she was guilty, just because it was not politically acceptable to indict her does not make her not guilty.
I do agree with you, hyprocisy does reign supreme.
Quote: FleaswatterEven Comey's "exoneration" letter says she was guilty, just because it was not politically acceptable to indict her does not make her not guilty.
So you DO want to live in a country where you are GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT, lol.
Gotcha.
Quote: SteverinosSo you DO want to live in a country where you are GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT, lol.
That would explain why many Trump supporters are Russian fanboys all of a sudden. That's how they do it over there.
Quote: TigerWuThat would explain why many Trump supporters are Russian fanboys all of a sudden. That's how they do it over there.
Yeah
Everyone is innocent until proven guitly... except HRC. Shes already guilty without even a trial
They dont even see their own hypocrisy
As their favorite leader would say... Sad!
Quote: SteverinosSo you DO want to live in a country where you are GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT, lol.
Gotcha.
Reallllllyl biiiiiig GOTCHA, LOL
From Comey: "there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."
GUILTY in their handling of handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
The phrase "Extremely careless" was changed from "gross negligence" due to politics.
Keep drinking your koolaid, keep living in your fantasy world.
Quote: FleaswatterReallllllyl biiiiiig GOTCHA, LOL
From Comey: "there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."
GUILTY in their handling of handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
The phrase "Extremely careless" was changed from "gross negligence" due to politics.
Keep drinking your koolaid, keep living in your fantasy world.
Unchallenged evidence is meaningless
Quote: darkozIf you ever have the unfortunate instance to know someone who had their private parts groped please point out to them strongly that they werent raped
Quote: FleaswatterSince you seem to equate groping with rape, do you believe Senator Cory Spartacus Booker should be charged with rape?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/21/in-1992-cory-booker-admitted-to-groping-a-high-school-classmate-and-issued-a-call-for-sexual-respect/?utm_term=.85fa81bf3754
"When he was in high school, Cory Booker, the New Jersey Democrat and possible White House contender, groped his classmate while making out. He reached for her breast, and when she swatted his hand away, he made another attempt."
I am still curious about your view of Senator Cory Spartacus Booker.
