WARNING: Confiscated $15,148 in Winnings
August 27th, 2026 at 11:53:24 AM
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Here is the full story of how they stole my winnings.
What happened:
I deposited ~$20k USDC. Won ~$1,148 at blackjack. Withdrew $6k. Lost $15,148.
The excuses:
Prohibited Betting: They said I used a banned strategy. Asked for logs? None provided.
Restricted Jurisdiction: They said I was in a banned country. I was in the Czech Republic. Their site allows it.
The lack of transparency:
They refused to identify the specific rule violated. They refused to provide betting logs. They refused to engage with Casino Guru mediation. They refused to engage with Casinomeister.
The corporate shuffle:
The operator changed from TESSERA LIMITED S.R.L. to Techno Wave Systems S.R.L. (Costa Rica). No warning, no clear explanation.
The review cleanup:
Trustpilot shows they had reviews disabled. This aligns with the behavior other players have reported. I am not the only victim.
Details:
Amount: $15,148
Method: USDC
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What happened:
I deposited ~$20k USDC. Won ~$1,148 at blackjack. Withdrew $6k. Lost $15,148.
The excuses:
Prohibited Betting: They said I used a banned strategy. Asked for logs? None provided.
Restricted Jurisdiction: They said I was in a banned country. I was in the Czech Republic. Their site allows it.
The lack of transparency:
They refused to identify the specific rule violated. They refused to provide betting logs. They refused to engage with Casino Guru mediation. They refused to engage with Casinomeister.
The corporate shuffle:
The operator changed from TESSERA LIMITED S.R.L. to Techno Wave Systems S.R.L. (Costa Rica). No warning, no clear explanation.
The review cleanup:
Trustpilot shows they had reviews disabled. This aligns with the behavior other players have reported. I am not the only victim.
Details:
Amount: $15,148
Method: USDC
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August 27th, 2026 at 4:59:10 PM
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I don't think this is anywhere near the 'full story'. There are so many important details missing.
According to your story, they stole your deposit, not your winnings. That is much worse than the claim you make in your title.
Were you using a banned strategy? The terms of service that we all have to agree to ban almost everything that an AP would want to do. For many casinos, I agreed not to gamble in a professional capacity. This basically means that everything that I do on a daily basis is violating the terms of service.
Fortunately, the US-facing online casinos are making so much money that they would rather pay off most AP players after they ban them rather risk than reputational damage.
According to your story, they stole your deposit, not your winnings. That is much worse than the claim you make in your title.
Were you using a banned strategy? The terms of service that we all have to agree to ban almost everything that an AP would want to do. For many casinos, I agreed not to gamble in a professional capacity. This basically means that everything that I do on a daily basis is violating the terms of service.
Fortunately, the US-facing online casinos are making so much money that they would rather pay off most AP players after they ban them rather risk than reputational damage.
Gambling is a math contest where the score is tracked in dollars. Try not to get a negative score.
September 29th, 2026 at 8:28:26 AM
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Quote: Anonymous34Here is the full story of how they stole my winnings.
What happened:
I deposited ~$20k USDC. Won ~$1,148 at blackjack. Withdrew $6k. Lost $15,148.
The excuses:
Prohibited Betting: They said I used a banned strategy. Asked for logs? None provided.
Restricted Jurisdiction: They said I was in a banned country. I was in the Czech Republic. Their site allows it.
The lack of transparency:
They refused to identify the specific rule violated. They refused to provide betting logs. They refused to engage with Casino Guru mediation. They refused to engage with Casinomeister.
The corporate shuffle:
The operator changed from TESSERA LIMITED S.R.L. to Techno Wave Systems S.R.L. (Costa Rica). No warning, no clear explanation.
The review cleanup:
Trustpilot shows they had reviews disabled. This aligns with the behavior other players have reported. I am not the only victim.
Details:
Amount: $15,148
Method: USDC
Follow the thread on BitcoinTalk - not allowed to post links here
Be careful.
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My $15,385 dispute with Bets.io Casino is not something I can simply walk away from. I deposited my money, completed the requested KYC, and played on the platform in accordance with the rules as I understood them. Then my account was closed and my funds were withheld.
What made the situation even more frustrating was what happened when I tried to get the dispute resolved through Casino Guru. I provided the information requested and participated in the complaint process. But when Casino Guru attempted to mediate the case, did not provide the resolution I was looking for. From my perspective, I was left without a meaningful explanation of what happened to my money.
That is why I started looking into other complaints involving .
I found a Bitcointalk discussion involving another player who reportedly deposited around $40,000 USDC, received approximately $12,000 back, and claims that roughly $28,000 remained withheld. The player also alleged that did not provide sufficient evidence explaining the confiscation.
Casino guru complaints
casino.guru/complaints/all#filterCasinoId=4112
I cannot personally verify every detail of someone else's case, but seeing another dispute involving a substantial amount of money naturally made me wonder whether my experience was an isolated incident.
Then I came across the reported 3 BTC "Gold Wheel" dispute.
According to that player's account, the wheel landed on a much larger prize and the player had video evidence of the spin, but the payout they received was reportedly only a relatively small amount in USDT. There may be an explanation under the applicable terms or circumstances surrounding the game, but again, it raises questions about how major disputes are handled.
I also started looking into who actually operates .
has been associated with TESSERA LIMITED S.R.L. in Costa Rica. However, I found older public information connecting with Alpha Affiliates. In 2021, Alpha Affiliates representatives reportedly stated that they had acquired and owned . I also found information connecting personnel associated with to Alpha.
That left me with questions I still haven't been able to answer:
What happened between the earlier Alpha ownership claims and the current TESSERA structure? Who are the beneficial owners of TESSERA? What is the relationship between TESSERA and Alpha Affiliates? And why do related brands and personnel appear across the same network?
I am not saying that a corporate restructuring by itself proves wrongdoing. It doesn't.
But when a casino is holding my money, I believe I have a legitimate reason to know exactly which company is responsible for the platform and who ultimately stands behind it.
I also looked at the publicly available information on Casino Guru, including its complaint history and safety-related statistics. Those figures don't prove that every complaint is legitimate, but they added to my concerns when considered alongside my own experience.
For me, this isn't just about $15,385 anymore.
It's about what happened after my account was closed, why my funds were withheld, why I couldn't get a satisfactory resolution through mediation, and why there are still unanswered questions about the corporate structure behind the casino.
I am the person who lost access to the money. I am the person who went through the KYC process. I am the person who tried to get answers.
I don't expect anyone to simply take my word for everything. I want the evidence and the explanation.
If believes that my funds were withheld correctly, then I want them to clearly explain why, identify the specific terms they relied on, and provide whatever evidence they can legitimately disclose.
Until then, my $15,385 remains disputed and unresolved, and I believe other players should be aware of my experience before trusting the platform with significant amounts of money.
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September 29th, 2026 at 9:12:45 AM
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When someone asks me why I don’t use the overseas online books to clean up, I show them your post. What possible reason could you come up with that would make me expect that ‘Youalwayswincasino’ licensed in Naoero will pay me my winnings? Or even return my deposit?
Good luck in getting your money back.
Good luck in getting your money back.
September 29th, 2026 at 2:04:41 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOWhen someone asks me why I don’t use the overseas online books to clean up, I show them your post. What possible reason could you come up with that would make me expect that ‘Youalwayswincasino’ licensed in Naoero will pay me my winnings? Or even return my deposit?
Good luck in getting your money back.
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I am with you, do not play at casinos unless you believe you have a legal recourse to collect.
I had to avoid most overseas online casinos when I worked in Gaming in Nevada because my background would be scrutinized. Five years later I still refuse because any legal recourse to collect would cost more than the funds I would be trying to collect.
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
September 30th, 2026 at 3:17:09 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOWhen someone asks me why I don’t use the overseas online books to clean up, I show them your post. What possible reason could you come up with that would make me expect that ‘Youalwayswincasino’ licensed in Naoero will pay me my winnings? Or even return my deposit?
Because in the vast majority of cases online books do pay up.
September 30th, 2026 at 8:12:23 PM
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Quote: GrahamThorpQuote: SOOPOOWhen someone asks me why I don’t use the overseas online books to clean up, I show them your post. What possible reason could you come up with that would make me expect that ‘Youalwayswincasino’ licensed in Naoero will pay me my winnings? Or even return my deposit?
Because in the vast majority of cases online books do pay up.
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How often do they not? This site has been littered with similar tales of woe. I guess I would phrase it as ‘I hope to be paid’ but certainly not shocked if I didn’t.
October 1st, 2026 at 2:41:23 AM
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How often do they not? This site has been littered with similar tales of woe. dn’t.
Sample bias. People only report unsuccessful withdrawals.
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October 1st, 2026 at 3:28:50 AM
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Quote: GrahamThorpQuote: SOOPOO]
How often do they not? This site has been littered with similar tales of woe. dn’t.
Sample bias. People only report unsuccessful withdrawals.
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Early in this site’s history it had a long list of ‘rogue casinos’, and a smaller list of ‘Wizard approved casinos’. I remember speaking with our dearly departed Axel about this very subject. He would always factor in the likelihood of the casino not paying him when deciding if a play was truly +EV. Sounds like you have personal experience using off shore casinos to make a living? With your hand on the Bible will you say you’ve never had $$ not paid that should have been?
October 1st, 2026 at 3:36:32 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: GrahamThorpQuote: SOOPOO]
How often do they not? This site has been littered with similar tales of woe. dn’t.
Sample bias. People only report unsuccessful withdrawals.
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Early in this site’s history it had a long list of ‘rogue casinos’, and a smaller list of ‘Wizard approved casinos’. I remember speaking with our dearly departed Axel about this very subject. He would always factor in the likelihood of the casino not paying him when deciding if a play was truly +EV. Sounds like you have personal experience using off shore casinos to make a living? With your hand on the Bible will you say you’ve never had $$ not paid that should have been?
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Yes.
October 1st, 2026 at 7:47:26 AM
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Maybe I'm "too old" and "out of touch" to understand crap like this, but if you have $20,000 to gamble with, you can afford to travel to a brick-and-mortar casino where you actually have safeguards and established legal recourse if something goes wrong. It blows my mind that someone would just dump that much money into some random online website to gamble with. Couple hundred bucks? Sure. But $20k? Come on, man...
October 1st, 2026 at 8:07:43 AM
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Quote: TigerWuMaybe I'm "too old" and "out of touch" to understand crap like this, but if you have $20,000 to gamble with, you can afford to travel to a brick-and-mortar casino where you actually have safeguards and established legal recourse if something goes wrong.
You can also get robbed, waste money on expenses, be physically assaulted/arrested by casino security, have your picture taken/identity recorded and circulated, or just screwed by the generally much worse value on offer from what is close to a de facto pricing cartel. If there is a payout dispute because your bet is voided, palpable error or contingency related wagering is invoked, good luck with your time-consuming and expensive "legal recourse". actually working out for you, even if you technically win in court.
October 1st, 2026 at 8:18:07 AM
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Quote: GrahamThorpQuote: TigerWuMaybe I'm "too old" and "out of touch" to understand crap like this, but if you have $20,000 to gamble with, you can afford to travel to a brick-and-mortar casino where you actually have safeguards and established legal recourse if something goes wrong.
You can also get robbed, waste money on expenses, be physically assaulted/arrested by casino security, have your picture taken/identity recorded and circulated, or just screwed by the generally much worse value on offer from what is close to a de facto pricing cartel. If there is a payout dispute because your bet is voided, palpable error or contingency related wagering is invoked, good luck with your time-consuming and expensive "legal recourse". actually working out for you, even if you technically win in court.
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Correct but never wise up a mark. Many AP’s here make good money online but don’t tell others.
If you know, you know.
October 1st, 2026 at 8:35:39 AM
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.
for anyone who is interested there is a long thread I started years ago about the claim that online casinos are rigged
there are several long comments from Axel (r.i.p.) which many might find interesting -
he seemed to believe that online casinos were cheating him to some extent
it seems about half said there was rigging and about half said there generally wasn't
quite a few claimed that the risks were greater in foreign casinos
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/online/37582-claim-online-casinos-rigged/2/
for anyone who is interested there is a long thread I started years ago about the claim that online casinos are rigged
there are several long comments from Axel (r.i.p.) which many might find interesting -
he seemed to believe that online casinos were cheating him to some extent
it seems about half said there was rigging and about half said there generally wasn't
quite a few claimed that the risks were greater in foreign casinos
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/online/37582-claim-online-casinos-rigged/2/
the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
October 1st, 2026 at 10:24:06 AM
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Quote: GrahamThorpQuote: SOOPOOQuote: GrahamThorpQuote: SOOPOO]
How often do they not? This site has been littered with similar tales of woe. dn’t.
Sample bias. People only report unsuccessful withdrawals.
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Early in this site’s history it had a long list of ‘rogue casinos’, and a smaller list of ‘Wizard approved casinos’. I remember speaking with our dearly departed Axel about this very subject. He would always factor in the likelihood of the casino not paying him when deciding if a play was truly +EV. Sounds like you have personal experience using off shore casinos to make a living? With your hand on the Bible will you say you’ve never had $$ not paid that should have been?
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Yes.
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Can you provide us a list of all of the online casinos that you have played at. It would be awesome to have a list of casinos known to pay out.
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
October 1st, 2026 at 1:26:20 PM
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A list like that would be extremely helpful. I have used Bet105 with no issues and can vouch for them.
Edit: although the Bet105 mailing list was hacked, so you have to watch out for phishing attempts from lookalikes. But Bet105 themselves is fine.
Edit: although the Bet105 mailing list was hacked, so you have to watch out for phishing attempts from lookalikes. But Bet105 themselves is fine.
October 1st, 2026 at 1:31:29 PM
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any online casino state regulated has been a swift payer.
I have concluded that 'the score bet' is untrustworthy in that they can have you restricted to 'no offers' yet constantly send offers by email that do not exist for you. Caesars is fine with smartphone but their PC/laptop site is full of bugs and cheated me back in the day for amounts not worth pursuing
I have concluded that 'the score bet' is untrustworthy in that they can have you restricted to 'no offers' yet constantly send offers by email that do not exist for you. Caesars is fine with smartphone but their PC/laptop site is full of bugs and cheated me back in the day for amounts not worth pursuing
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
October 1st, 2026 at 1:34:02 PM
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Yes, all regulated online casinos have been legit: DraftKings, FanDuel, BetMGM, Caesars, BetRivers, etc. all will pay out with no issues.
Hard Rock IMO is the worst of the regulated, onshore books. They are pretty sketchy but eventually it all worked out.
Smaller sites like TheScore and Bet365 are very, very quick to limit and promo-ban your account; still, you do get paid.
Hard Rock IMO is the worst of the regulated, onshore books. They are pretty sketchy but eventually it all worked out.
Smaller sites like TheScore and Bet365 are very, very quick to limit and promo-ban your account; still, you do get paid.
October 1st, 2026 at 1:39:20 PM
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Quote: TigerWuMaybe I'm "too old" and "out of touch" to understand crap like this, but if you have $20,000 to gamble with, you can afford to travel to a brick-and-mortar casino where you actually have safeguards and established legal recourse if something goes wrong. It blows my mind that someone would just dump that much money into some random online website to gamble with. Couple hundred bucks? Sure. But $20k? Come on, man...
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(AP) people use these online casinos in an effort to do what AP’s do…. make money. Initial deposit matches, loss rebates, free bets for certain plays, etc…. allow people like GT to win more often than they lose. If they are letting you deposit $10k and they will match it for some reasonable play through, then your only real risk is them just not paying you, or the games you play being gaffed preventing you from winning.
I don’t doubt GT’s claim that he has always been paid appropriately. Just that others haven’t had the same success, and lilRed’s post reminds me of my discussion with Axel about this issue.
October 1st, 2026 at 1:53:59 PM
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Quote: DRichQuote: GrahamThorpQuote: SOOPOOQuote: GrahamThorpQuote: SOOPOO]
How often do they not? This site has been littered with similar tales of woe. dn’t.
Sample bias. People only report unsuccessful withdrawals.
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Early in this site’s history it had a long list of ‘rogue casinos’, and a smaller list of ‘Wizard approved casinos’. I remember speaking with our dearly departed Axel about this very subject. He would always factor in the likelihood of the casino not paying him when deciding if a play was truly +EV. Sounds like you have personal experience using off shore casinos to make a living? With your hand on the Bible will you say you’ve never had $$ not paid that should have been?
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Yes.
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Can you provide us a list of all of the online casinos that you have played at. It would be awesome to have a list of casinos known to pay out.
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I'd rather not reveal details of my current play and I've excluded modern US-facing operations since the discussion seems to be about offshore only. These are the places that paid out without issue I am comfortable talking about:
InterCasino | intercasino.com | Active (last known), international
InterCasino | intercasino.co.uk | Closed 3 Sep 2019
InterCasino | intercasino.eu / other EU domains | Unverified
InterCasino Poker / InterPoker | interpoker.com | Closed
InterBingo | interbingo.com | Closed
The Gaming Club | gamingclub.com | Active (last known)
Lucky Nugget Casino | luckynuggetcasino.com | Active (last known)
Golden Palace Casino | goldenpalace.com | Active (last known)
Golden Palace | goldenpalace.be | Active (last known)
Casino-on-Net | casino-on-net.com | Rebranded
Reef Club Casino | reefclubcasino.com | Closed
888casino | 888casino.com | Active (last known)
888casino | 888casino.com (UK licence) | Active (last known)
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Pacific Poker | pacificpoker.com | Rebranded
Starluck Casino | starluck.com | Rebranded
PartyCasino | partycasino.com | Active (last known)
William Hill Casino | williamhill.com casino | Active (last known)
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Coral Casino | coral.co.uk | Active (last known)
Gala Casino | galacasino.com | Active (last known)
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Betfair Casino | betfair.com casino | Active (last known)
Betfair Casino | casino.betfair.com (NJ) | Rebranded
Blue Square Casino | bluesq.com | Closed (c.2012)
Sky Vegas | skyvegas.com | Active (last known)
Sky Casino | skycasino.com | Active (last known)
Betfred Casino | betfred.com casino | Active (last known)
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BoyleSports Casino | boylesports.com casino | Active (last known)
BetVictor Casino | betvictor.com casino | Active (last known)
Victor Chandler Casino | victorchandler.com | Rebranded
Stan James Casino | stanjames.com | Closed 2018
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Sun Bets | sunbets.co.uk | Closed (c.2018)
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Genting Casino | gentingcasino.com | Active (last known)
Aspers Casino | aspers.com | Unverified
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Winner Casino | winner.com | Unverified
Mansion Casino | mansioncasino.com | Unverified
Omni Casino | omnicasino.com | Unverified
Sun Palace Casino | sunpalacecasino.com | Active (last known)
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English Harbour Casino | englishharbour.com | Unverified
Spin Palace | spinpalace.com | Active (last known)
Royal Vegas | royalvegascasino.com | Active (last known)
Ruby Fortune | rubyfortune.com | Active (last known)
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Golden Tiger Casino | goldentigercasino.com | Active (last known)
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Aztec Riches | aztecriches.com | Active (last known)
River Belle Casino | riverbelle.com | Active (last known)
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Crazy Vegas | crazyvegas.com | Unverified
Virtual City Casino | virtualcitycasino.com | Unverified
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InetBet | inetbet.com | Active (last known)
Bodog Casino | bodog.com | Split 2011
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Bodog Casino | bodog.com (Canada) | Active (last known), offshore
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Bovada Casino | bovada.lv | Active (last known)
5Dimes Casino | 5dimes.eu | Closed (2021)
Intertops Casino | intertops.eu | Rebranded 2022
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Matchbook Casino | matchbook.com | Active (last known)
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Interwetten Casino | interwetten.com | Active (last known)
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Playboy Casino | playboygaming.com | Closed
Littlewoods Casino | littlewoodscasino.com | Unverified
Lasseters Online | lasseters.com.au | Closed
Casino Barcelona | casinobarcelona.es | Active (last known)
Eurobet | eurobet.it | Active (last known)
Goldbet | goldbet.it | Active (last known)
Golden Nugget Online Casino | goldennuggetcasino.com | Active (last known)
Caesars Palace Online Casino | caesarspalaceonline.com | Active (last known)
Harrah's Casino (online) | harrahscasino.com | Active (last known)
BetMGM Casino | casino.betmgm.com | Active (last known)
BetMGM Casino | betmgm.co.uk | Active (last known)
188BET | 188bet.com | Unverified (exited UK 2018?)
Most of these places no longer exist in their original form.
A few places (not on this list) shut down and required me to jump through hoops to return what in most cases was trivial amounts of money. On a few occasions I didn't bother to jump through the hoop. One time it was around $1000-I can't recall if my efforts to reclaim it were reasonable or whether I was just distracted (I was making a lot of money from business at the time so it wasn't a priority).
I lost $400 at goodfellas casino (mg) but it was returned later by Microgaming themselves who paid back everyone who had their money stolen.
Mirrorbingo casino recently decided to ban me after I won $5000 using a very advanced technique. i deposited after the "ban" and continued to win and receive payouts. Eventually they locked my account with $400 in it.
I have never failed to receive payment in any other case from any other online casino or book off or on this list, though bans and countermeasures were frequent.
The only time I was definitely cheated was by 888casino who used to have a very obvious cheat switch for promo hustlers back in the day. This was verified with other bonus hustlers. The amount was trivial.
As a general rule people who are claiming to have been cheated just don't understand statistics. My lifetime play which is very extensive and literally compromises millions of hands/spins was within standard error. At one stage I used cheat engine to manipulate game speed and could play over 1000 hands of blackjack an hour, and 10000 spins per hour at slots. I ran a 23 man gnoming operation also. So I have a lot of data.
The one caveat is that I do not play 3rd tier joints, and I do take active steps to avoid exposing myself to the failure of one operation. It is not a good idea to bet parlays, focus on jackpots etc at a joint you do not completely trust to pay you. That said many people who chose to maximize their EV and do absolutely everything became very, very rich. I suspect many of those guys may have prospered at the wrong end of a 60/40 proposition.
Regarding the comment about foreign casinos: the blue chip euro/uk casinos are much more trustworthy than US-facing casinos in terms of regulation. Continental european regulators have real teeth unlike anywhere. There is little formal regulation of offshore casinos books, but for the large players there doesn't need to be: they simply make so much money it makes more sense to be pro-customer. For second and especially third tier books except a fight if you win 5 figures+- but even here they usually pay you off eventually.
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October 1st, 2026 at 3:31:35 PM
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Absolute gold, Graham. Thank you.
October 2nd, 2026 at 5:29:34 AM
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How often do they not? This site has been littered with similar tales of woe. dn’t.
Sample bias. People only report unsuccessful withdrawals.
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Early in this site’s history it had a long list of ‘rogue casinos’, and a smaller list of ‘Wizard approved casinos’. I remember speaking with our dearly departed Axel about this very subject. He would always factor in the likelihood of the casino not paying him when deciding if a play was truly +EV. Sounds like you have personal experience using off shore casinos to make a living? With your hand on the Bible will you say you’ve never had $$ not paid that should have been?
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Yes.
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Can you provide us a list of all of the online casinos that you have played at. It would be awesome to have a list of casinos known to pay out.
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I'd rather not reveal details of my current play and I've excluded modern US-facing operations since the discussion seems to be about offshore only. These are the places that paid out without issue I am comfortable talking about:
InterCasino | intercasino.com | Active (last known), international
InterCasino | intercasino.co.uk | Closed 3 Sep 2019
InterCasino | intercasino.eu / other EU domains | Unverified
InterCasino Poker / InterPoker | interpoker.com | Closed
InterBingo | interbingo.com | Closed
The Gaming Club | gamingclub.com | Active (last known)
Lucky Nugget Casino | luckynuggetcasino.com | Active (last known)
Golden Palace Casino | goldenpalace.com | Active (last known)
Golden Palace | goldenpalace.be | Active (last known)
Casino-on-Net | casino-on-net.com | Rebranded
Reef Club Casino | reefclubcasino.com | Closed
888casino | 888casino.com | Active (last known)
888casino | 888casino.com (UK licence) | Active (last known)
777.com | 777.com | Active (last known)
Pacific Poker | pacificpoker.com | Rebranded
Starluck Casino | starluck.com | Rebranded
PartyCasino | partycasino.com | Active (last known)
William Hill Casino | williamhill.com casino | Active (last known)
William Hill (US) | williamhill.com/us | Rebranded
Ladbrokes Casino | ladbrokes.com casino | Active (last known)
Coral Casino | coral.co.uk | Active (last known)
Gala Casino | galacasino.com | Active (last known)
Gala Bingo | galabingo.com | Active (last known)
Foxy Bingo / Foxy Casino | foxybingo.com | Active (last known)
bet365 Casino | bet365.com casino | Active (last known)
Paddy Power Casino | paddypower.com casino | Active (last known)
Betfair Casino | betfair.com casino | Active (last known)
Betfair Casino | casino.betfair.com (NJ) | Rebranded
Blue Square Casino | bluesq.com | Closed (c.2012)
Sky Vegas | skyvegas.com | Active (last known)
Sky Casino | skycasino.com | Active (last known)
Betfred Casino | betfred.com casino | Active (last known)
Totesport / Totecasino | totesport.com | Closed / merged
BoyleSports Casino | boylesports.com casino | Active (last known)
BetVictor Casino | betvictor.com casino | Active (last known)
Victor Chandler Casino | victorchandler.com | Rebranded
Stan James Casino | stanjames.com | Closed 2018
Sportingbet Casino | sportingbet.com | Market exited UK; brand persists elsewhere (e.g. Brazil)
Sun Bets | sunbets.co.uk | Closed (c.2018)
Betway Casino | betway.com casino | Active (last known)
Unibet Casino | unibet.com | Active (last known)
Unibet Casino | unibet.co.uk | Active (last known)
32Red Casino | 32red.com | Active (last known)
bwin Casino | bwin.com | Active (last known)
Betsson Casino | betsson.com | Active (last known)
Betsafe Casino | betsafe.com | Active (last known)
Casinoeuro | casinoeuro.com | Active (last known)
Expekt Casino | expekt.com | Unverified (brand reportedly wound down)
LeoVegas | leovegas.com | Active (last known)
Casumo | casumo.com | Active (last known)
Mr Green | mrgreen.com | Active (last known)
ComeOn | comeon.com | Active (last known)
NetBet Casino | netbet.com / netbet.co.uk | Active (last known)
PlayOJO | playojo.com | Active (last known)
Mr Q | mrq.com | Active (last known)
Jackpotjoy | jackpotjoy.com | Active (last known)
Virgin Games | virgingames.com | Unverified
Virgin Casino | virgincasino.com (NJ) | Closed
Monopoly Casino | monopolycasino.com | Active (last known)
Rainbow Riches Casino | rainbowrichescasino.com | Active (last known)
Heart Bingo | heartbingo.co.uk | Active (last known)
Bally Casino | ballycasino.com | Active (last known)
Tropicana Online Casino | tropicanacasino.com (NJ) | Active (last known)
Grosvenor Casinos | grosvenorcasinos.com | Active (last known)
Mecca Bingo / Mecca Games | meccabingo.com | Active (last known)
Genting Casino | gentingcasino.com | Active (last known)
Aspers Casino | aspers.com | Unverified
Casino.com | casino.com | Active (last known)
Casino Tropez | casinotropez.com | Closed (per igaminghistory)
Europa Casino | europacasino.com | Unverified
Titan Casino | titancasino.com | Unverified
Winner Casino | winner.com | Unverified
Mansion Casino | mansioncasino.com | Unverified
Omni Casino | omnicasino.com | Unverified
Sun Palace Casino | sunpalacecasino.com | Active (last known)
VIP Casino | vipcasino.com | Unverified
Casino Classic | casinoclassic.com | Active (last known)
Caribbean Gold Casino | caribbeangoldcasino.com | Unverified
English Harbour Casino | englishharbour.com | Unverified
Spin Palace | spinpalace.com | Active (last known)
Royal Vegas | royalvegascasino.com | Active (last known)
Ruby Fortune | rubyfortune.com | Active (last known)
Platinum Play | platinumplay.com | Unverified
Vegas Palms | vegaspalmscasino.com | Unverified
Jackpot City | jackpotcitycasino.com | Active (last known)
Yukon Gold Casino | yukongoldcasino.com | Active (last known)
Zodiac Casino | zodiaccasino.com | Active (last known)
Golden Tiger Casino | goldentigercasino.com | Active (last known)
Captain Cooks Casino | captaincookscasino.com | Active (last known)
Casino Action | casinoaction.com | Active (last known)
Blackjack Ballroom | blackjackballroom.com | Active (last known)
Aztec Riches | aztecriches.com | Active (last known)
River Belle Casino | riverbelle.com | Active (last known)
Mummys Gold | mummysgold.com | Unverified
All Slots Casino | allslotscasino.com | Active (last known)
Wild Jack Casino | wildjackcasino.com | Active (last known)
7 Sultans Casino | 7sultans.com | Unverified
Roxy Palace | roxypalace.com | Unverified
Prestige Casino | prestigecasino.com | Unverified
Lucky Emperor Casino | luckyemperor.com | Unverified
Crazy Vegas | crazyvegas.com | Unverified
Virtual City Casino | virtualcitycasino.com | Unverified
Slots of Vegas | slotsofvegas.com | Active (last known)
Slotland | slotland.com | Active (last known)
InetBet | inetbet.com | Active (last known)
Bodog Casino | bodog.com | Split 2011
Bodog Casino | bodog.eu | Unverified
Bodog Casino | bodog.com (Canada) | Active (last known), offshore
Bodog88 | bodog88.com | Unverified
Bovada Casino | bovada.lv | Active (last known)
5Dimes Casino | 5dimes.eu | Closed (2021)
Intertops Casino | intertops.eu | Rebranded 2022
Marathonbet Casino | marathonbet.com / marathonbet.co.uk | Unverified (UK)
Matchbook Casino | matchbook.com | Active (last known)
Betdaq Casino | betdaq.com | Unverified
Interwetten Casino | interwetten.com | Active (last known)
bet-at-home Casino | bet-at-home.com | Unverified (reduced footprint)
Betclic Casino | betclic.it / betclic.pt | Unverified
PokerStars Casino | pokerstarscasino.com | Active (last known)
Full Tilt Casino | fulltilt.com | Closed
Playboy Casino | playboygaming.com | Closed
Littlewoods Casino | littlewoodscasino.com | Unverified
Lasseters Online | lasseters.com.au | Closed
Casino Barcelona | casinobarcelona.es | Active (last known)
Eurobet | eurobet.it | Active (last known)
Goldbet | goldbet.it | Active (last known)
Golden Nugget Online Casino | goldennuggetcasino.com | Active (last known)
Caesars Palace Online Casino | caesarspalaceonline.com | Active (last known)
Harrah's Casino (online) | harrahscasino.com | Active (last known)
BetMGM Casino | casino.betmgm.com | Active (last known)
BetMGM Casino | betmgm.co.uk | Active (last known)
188BET | 188bet.com | Unverified (exited UK 2018?)
Most of these places no longer exist in their original form.
A few places (not on this list) shut down and required me to jump through hoops to return what in most cases was trivial amounts of money. On a few occasions I didn't bother to jump through the hoop. One time it was around $1000-I can't recall if my efforts to reclaim it were reasonable or whether I was just distracted (I was making a lot of money from business at the time so it wasn't a priority).
I lost $400 at goodfellas casino (mg) but it was returned later by Microgaming themselves who paid back everyone who had their money stolen.
Mirrorbingo casino recently decided to ban me after I won $5000 using a very advanced technique. i deposited after the "ban" and continued to win and receive payouts. Eventually they locked my account with $400 in it.
I have never failed to receive payment in any other case from any other online casino or book off or on this list, though bans and countermeasures were frequent.
The only time I was definitely cheated was by 888casino who used to have a very obvious cheat switch for promo hustlers back in the day. This was verified with other bonus hustlers. The amount was trivial.
As a general rule people who are claiming to have been cheated just don't understand statistics. My lifetime play which is very extensive and literally compromises millions of hands/spins was within standard error. At one stage I used cheat engine to manipulate game speed and could play over 1000 hands of blackjack an hour, and 10000 spins per hour at slots. I ran a 23 man gnoming operation also. So I have a lot of data.
The one caveat is that I do not play 3rd tier joints, and I do take active steps to avoid exposing myself to the failure of one operation. It is not a good idea to bet parlays, focus on jackpots etc at a joint you do not completely trust to pay you. That said many people who chose to maximize their EV and do absolutely everything became very, very rich. I suspect many of those guys may have prospered at the wrong end of a 60/40 proposition.
Regarding the comment about foreign casinos: the blue chip euro/uk casinos are much more trustworthy than US-facing casinos in terms of regulation. Continental european regulators have real teeth unlike anywhere. There is little formal regulation of offshore casinos books, but for the large players there doesn't need to be: they simply make so much money it makes more sense to be pro-customer. For second and especially third tier books except a fight if you win 5 figures+- but even here they usually pay you off eventually.
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Thank you for that great post. It does seem like you mention a few (small?) examples of when you weren’t paid appropriately. But of course given the very large number of ‘stores’ you shopped at, and the presumed $$$$$ you made from the majority of them, it seems like you (wisely) just considered those few blips as the cost of doing business.
But the $16k that the OP is upset about is significant TO HIM.
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Yes, this was over 25 years. The "non-payment" issues I described were really non-issues mentioned for completeness and full disclosure.
I'm not minimizing the significance of what happened to the OP. It is a very serious issue.
The large online gambling operators really need to get together and work out a rescue scheme for gamblers who lose out. Rogue operators really damage their business.
That said you can completely avoid this type of situation by playing only with first and second-tier operations, doing due diligence to establish cashflow and structuring your bets to avoid significant exposure. I always underlay when betting with a book I trust less for example. That is, if you wish to. You can make a lot more money overall by hitting everything and taking a massive hit every now and then, but its not something I care to do with a major heart condition.
I'd add: many industries are much worse than online gambling. Publishers frequently stole money from me and others who had written books for them. Affiliate programs also often simply don't pay often with no explanation. Even large industrial contractors have to sweat payment. Legal recourse is rarely much use in this situation.
I'm not minimizing the significance of what happened to the OP. It is a very serious issue.
The large online gambling operators really need to get together and work out a rescue scheme for gamblers who lose out. Rogue operators really damage their business.
That said you can completely avoid this type of situation by playing only with first and second-tier operations, doing due diligence to establish cashflow and structuring your bets to avoid significant exposure. I always underlay when betting with a book I trust less for example. That is, if you wish to. You can make a lot more money overall by hitting everything and taking a massive hit every now and then, but its not something I care to do with a major heart condition.
I'd add: many industries are much worse than online gambling. Publishers frequently stole money from me and others who had written books for them. Affiliate programs also often simply don't pay often with no explanation. Even large industrial contractors have to sweat payment. Legal recourse is rarely much use in this situation.
