Name something that was personally told to you in a casino that made you mad.
January 3rd, 2018 at 7:19:32 PM
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So I was playing 50 Dragons in a local casino at Max Bet and it was eating my money very quickly with no big wins. I quickly stopped feeling it and went to another machine. I came back about 30 minutes later and the player who had been playing next to me told me that right after I left a woman sat on the machine and won a full screen of the Dragon(Worth $5,000). I was livid. That's actually really messed up.To quote Don't Speak by No Doubt,"Don't tell because it hurts." LMAO, :D, :( Got to laugh through anger sometimes.
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January 3rd, 2018 at 7:40:10 PM
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"Gentlemen, advantage play in the state of Indiana is against the law!" -Gaming Officer 2014.
I don't know if it's the fact that he was incredibly stupid, or just flat out lying that made me so incredibly mad.
I don't know if it's the fact that he was incredibly stupid, or just flat out lying that made me so incredibly mad.
January 3rd, 2018 at 7:47:22 PM
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Quote: Keyser"Gentlemen, advantage play in the state of Indiana is against the law!" -Gaming Officer 2014.
If it's against the law, why do
they let the casinos do it. They
have the advantage on every
game they offer.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 4th, 2018 at 2:12:48 AM
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The times when Craps dealers point out that you can keep your DC bet in the box, or remove your DP bet, because a 6 or 8 was rolled have miffed me. Once a dealer suggested moving the DP to the Pass line, which made me angry enough to make a little scene. That these suggestions for horrible ways to play come out of nowhere is what gets to me, they seem to come from an instinct towards mendacity rather than just dealer ignorance .
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January 4th, 2018 at 2:31:11 AM
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Quote: odiousgambitThe times when Craps dealers point out that you can keep your DC bet in the box, or remove your DP bet, because a 6 or 8 was rolled have miffed me. Once a dealer suggested moving the DP to the Pass line, which made me angry enough to make a little scene. That these suggestions for horrible ways to play come out of nowhere is what gets to me, they seem to come from an instinct towards mendacity rather than just dealer ignorance .
I think it's more of ignorance and just seeing other people do it than mendacity (had to look that puppy up), especially if someone has a DP/DC bet, a 6 or 8 is rolled, and he starts complaining about it. In that case, I think it's definitely acceptable for a dealer to tell the player he can do no-action on that bet.
January 4th, 2018 at 5:48:14 AM
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Quote: RSI think it's more of ignorance and just seeing other people do it than mendacity (had to look that puppy up), especially if someone has a DP/DC bet, a 6 or 8 is rolled, and he starts complaining about it. In that case, I think it's definitely acceptable for a dealer to tell the player he can do no-action on that bet.
Why is it ok for a dealer to try and talk you out of any bet where you now have the advantage? You survived the come-out roll where you had a disadvantage, and now you have a 6/5 advantage.
I'm with OG here. Maybe, informing them in general, once, if they're not someone the dealer knows, that a DP bet can be taken down after a point is established is ok, but not to encourage it. If they go there at all, they should be required to say that the player now has an advantage, which is why the house lets them take it down.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
January 4th, 2018 at 7:13:29 AM
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It's a good word, used a lot for the actions of folk in the financial industry; in usage I have noticed it takes on a meaning that seems to indicate a type of lying that a person uses in the act of persuasion, as might be a part of their job.Quote: RS... mendacity (had to look that puppy up)
I know something about mendacity myself, to be honest. Many/most lines of work have elements of it.
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January 4th, 2018 at 8:04:23 AM
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This usually gets me angry enough to say something too. I don't play craps all that often, but of the last 3-4 times it has happened I think only once or twice it was at me. The other times I started by offering the player to buy their bet from them. They let me. Then after a few times they noticed "well hey that's a good bet!" then they looked at the dealer and asked why they tried to trick them off the bet. Another time I offered the guy to buy his bets and he knew 'something' was up, and asked the dealer, and the dealer had to swallow the apple in their throat and say "well the bet technically has an advantage once it travels" and the customer got mad again. The other times it happened to me I said something to the effect of "isn't 7 the most likely number? so why wouldn't I want any number up there?" and they're usually like "oh, well, umm... some people don't like 6 and 8!"Quote: odiousgambitThe times when Craps dealers point out that you can keep your DC bet in the box, or remove your DP bet, because a 6 or 8 was rolled have miffed me. Once a dealer suggested moving the DP to the Pass line, which made me angry enough to make a little scene. That these suggestions for horrible ways to play come out of nowhere is what gets to me, they seem to come from an instinct towards mendacity rather than just dealer ignorance .
Something about the dealers pushing players towards BAD bets (center action), not traveling their DC's to 6/8, etc, just really irks me.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
January 4th, 2018 at 6:09:34 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: RSI think it's more of ignorance and just seeing other people do it than mendacity (had to look that puppy up), especially if someone has a DP/DC bet, a 6 or 8 is rolled, and he starts complaining about it. In that case, I think it's definitely acceptable for a dealer to tell the player he can do no-action on that bet.
Why is it ok for a dealer to try and talk you out of any bet where you now have the advantage? You survived the come-out roll where you had a disadvantage, and now you have a 6/5 advantage.
I'm with OG here. Maybe, informing them in general, once, if they're not someone the dealer knows, that a DP bet can be taken down after a point is established is ok, but not to encourage it. If they go there at all, they should be required to say that the player now has an advantage, which is why the house lets them take it down.
I don't think it's "okay" for a dealer to encourage someone to no-action their DP/DC bet. But like I said, I think it's acceptable for a dealer to inform a player he can do no-action, if he so chooses, given the player complains "not another 6 or 8!" or whatever people b**** about. After all, many people enjoy playing like that, so I don't think it's preposterous that another might want to play like that.
January 4th, 2018 at 10:04:31 PM
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With an A7v7, dealer speaking Chinese: "You should double that." *waves it off* "Double it." *continues waving it off silently*
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Dealer speaking Chinese to passersby, and similar lines, for about fifteen minutes: "Watch out for him, he's an idiot that doesn't know what he's doing; he's just blowing money and playing crazy."
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Another player, after I hit a 12vT, after 3 other people stand on 12-16, in Chinese: "The brat, screwing us all over."
Dealer, Chinese: "He's been doing that the whole time."
Me, in Chinese, speaking for the first time in this whole escapade: "Play your own hand."
Dealer: *deer in headlights*
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Dealer speaking Chinese to passersby, and similar lines, for about fifteen minutes: "Watch out for him, he's an idiot that doesn't know what he's doing; he's just blowing money and playing crazy."
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Another player, after I hit a 12vT, after 3 other people stand on 12-16, in Chinese: "The brat, screwing us all over."
Dealer, Chinese: "He's been doing that the whole time."
Me, in Chinese, speaking for the first time in this whole escapade: "Play your own hand."
Dealer: *deer in headlights*
January 4th, 2018 at 10:34:20 PM
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Is it worth learning Chinese just for this reason? I've considered it, but it seems pretty tough.
January 4th, 2018 at 10:34:44 PM
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You must give us your ID its the law!
Idiots.
Idiots.
January 4th, 2018 at 10:43:51 PM
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Well. If you're mostly hoping to learn it to hear when people are talking about you, it can probably be trimmed down to a few dozen key phrases.
In my case though, I'm Asian and look it, and most of the other dealers and floor managers in the Asian/HL rooms know I'm fluent. I probably should've spoken up earlier, but I was intrigued as to just how long it would go on for without anybody noticing. (That, and I was on a good run, so why rock the boat?)
In my case though, I'm Asian and look it, and most of the other dealers and floor managers in the Asian/HL rooms know I'm fluent. I probably should've spoken up earlier, but I was intrigued as to just how long it would go on for without anybody noticing. (That, and I was on a good run, so why rock the boat?)
January 4th, 2018 at 10:50:18 PM
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I was talking to a floor person during break (I used to deal) one time. I wouldn't ever bring up card counting, AP, etc. but if the conversation turned there, I'd play somewhere in the middle (ie: "Are you sure that's cheating, illegal, etc., that doesn't seem right to me..."). The floor person continued to tell me how:
1. It is federal law that you must have ID and show it when requested, in a casino.
2. The casino can refuse to cash your chips for any reason, because the chips are property of the casino (and IIRC, "have no cash value").
3. The casino can refuse to pay you on a slot machine jackpot if the casino feels like it, and they don't have to pay you for the TITO ticket.
4. Card counting is cheating and against the law. They just aren't arrested because it's easier to just kick them out.
That floor person was actually pretty cool and I don't ever remember there being a problem with that person regarding those things. I think it was more of a, "This is stuff most people don't know, but it's true and not really enforced."
1. It is federal law that you must have ID and show it when requested, in a casino.
2. The casino can refuse to cash your chips for any reason, because the chips are property of the casino (and IIRC, "have no cash value").
3. The casino can refuse to pay you on a slot machine jackpot if the casino feels like it, and they don't have to pay you for the TITO ticket.
4. Card counting is cheating and against the law. They just aren't arrested because it's easier to just kick them out.
That floor person was actually pretty cool and I don't ever remember there being a problem with that person regarding those things. I think it was more of a, "This is stuff most people don't know, but it's true and not really enforced."
No I'm not ratting out which casino that was. And for those who do know, please don't say it.
January 4th, 2018 at 11:57:59 PM
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Quote: rainmanYou must give us your ID its the law!
Idiots.
In many states it is the law if you appear under 45 (or various ages depending on the state), and that can be pretty much interpreted at the security guards or pit boss's discretion based on how they perceive age. You do not have to show it, but they then have the right to not cash you out and ask you to leave if they have reasonable suspicion that you may not be legal age.
If you are playing a Slot Machine without a Players Card inserted or Sit Down at a table without giving your card to be rated and you are in your 20s you will probably be asked for ID.... Then again when you give your card they also often have the right to check your ID to verify that it is you, so that can be another method to see your actual ID.
Generally I never get ID'd at casinos where I play regularly and have a Card, but on Casinos that I only occasionally visit and do not bother to get a card I almost always get ID'd. And, I am now 26. Its basically like going to a bar, expect to get Carded if you are below 40. I still do not understand why some players make a big deal about it, personally I find it flattering, and if I am playing with a Player's Card, I like them to know who I am.
January 5th, 2018 at 12:11:02 AM
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Pretty much anytime playing Blackjack somebody getting mad at you for playing what is actually proper basic Strategy, which is also silly because people think that the other players ability effects the deck and somehow hitting or not hitting will negatively effect their hand (which is even a bigger pet peeve of mine).
Actually a specific example from not too long ago in AC is at one table there was this guy (not me lol) who was playing totally horrible, pretty much every move was wrong. It did not bother me or my friend at all, but this older lady at the table started loudly complaining to the dealer that she was losing and getting the wrong cards because her turn was after his, and the dealer was feeding into her "I am sorry that the player is making you lose, maybe you should try out your luck at another table" and that sort of thing..... Even some dealers seem to think that one players actions directly effect the expected results of another player.......
If you are that worried about other players, just book a private table or just find an unoccupied open table (in AC there are usually many)..... That is my biggest irritation, people who make a huge scene about how other players play, especially when they are the ones who are actually wrong on basic strategy for that particular table. Personally I just ignore everyone that I do not know, unless they specifically ask me for help in which case I will happily give them the right move politely, but I simply do not understand how people get so fixated and upset about how other players play.....
Actually a specific example from not too long ago in AC is at one table there was this guy (not me lol) who was playing totally horrible, pretty much every move was wrong. It did not bother me or my friend at all, but this older lady at the table started loudly complaining to the dealer that she was losing and getting the wrong cards because her turn was after his, and the dealer was feeding into her "I am sorry that the player is making you lose, maybe you should try out your luck at another table" and that sort of thing..... Even some dealers seem to think that one players actions directly effect the expected results of another player.......
If you are that worried about other players, just book a private table or just find an unoccupied open table (in AC there are usually many)..... That is my biggest irritation, people who make a huge scene about how other players play, especially when they are the ones who are actually wrong on basic strategy for that particular table. Personally I just ignore everyone that I do not know, unless they specifically ask me for help in which case I will happily give them the right move politely, but I simply do not understand how people get so fixated and upset about how other players play.....
January 5th, 2018 at 12:22:17 AM
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Quote: rainmanYou must give us your ID its the law!
Idiots.
On another website someone said that a casino employee asked them for their ID after they cashed out a TITO that wasn't theirs and then was banned for a week after giving back the TITO to the rightful owner who had been in the restroom or something like that and had asked a casino employee to watch the game for them in their absence.
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January 5th, 2018 at 2:08:36 AM
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Quote: GandlerIn many states it is the law if you appear under 45 (or various ages depending on the state), and that can be pretty much interpreted at the security guards or pit boss's discretion based on how they perceive age. You do not have to show it, but they then have the right to not cash you out and ask you to leave if they have reasonable suspicion that you may not be legal age.
Wut?
You saying it's the law you have to show ID....but you don't have to. Wtf?
Can you link to a source of this supposed "law"?
January 5th, 2018 at 3:46:44 AM
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Quote: GandlerI still do not understand why some players make a big deal about it.
Many players are in databases such as Osn or Biometrics so their name is poison ,and those that have a clean name wish to keep it clean.
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January 5th, 2018 at 8:32:00 AM
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The ID thing is all really quite simple.
1) No private citizen has a right to require identification from another private citizen. In other words anyone but law enforcement (not security.)
2) They can ask anything they want, free speech and all that. They can ask you to leave if they want whether or not you give ID or whether you look 15 or 50, private property rights and all that.
1) No private citizen has a right to require identification from another private citizen. In other words anyone but law enforcement (not security.)
2) They can ask anything they want, free speech and all that. They can ask you to leave if they want whether or not you give ID or whether you look 15 or 50, private property rights and all that.
January 5th, 2018 at 9:05:52 AM
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I play a lot of 3CP...
1. "Look how much you would have won if you played PP and 3CB"
2. "What are you doing? The money is all up here!"
3. "You're required to make a PP bet."
#3 does not happen often, but the times it has I've had to call a pit boss over
1. "Look how much you would have won if you played PP and 3CB"
2. "What are you doing? The money is all up here!"
3. "You're required to make a PP bet."
#3 does not happen often, but the times it has I've had to call a pit boss over
January 5th, 2018 at 2:01:23 PM
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Quote: RSQuote: GandlerIn many states it is the law if you appear under 45 (or various ages depending on the state), and that can be pretty much interpreted at the security guards or pit boss's discretion based on how they perceive age. You do not have to show it, but they then have the right to not cash you out and ask you to leave if they have reasonable suspicion that you may not be legal age.
Wut?
You saying it's the law you have to show ID....but you don't have to. Wtf?
Can you link to a source of this supposed "law"?
No, I said its the law for casinos to ask you if you appear underage (which in many states is appearing under 40), and if you refuse, they can ask you to leave the gaming floor amd refuse to cash you out.
January 5th, 2018 at 2:18:15 PM
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Quote: GandlerNo, I said its the law for casinos to ask you if you appear underage (which in many states is appearing under 40), and if you refuse, they can ask you to leave the gaming floor amd refuse to cash you out.
You directly quoted rainman who said " 'You must give us your ID its [sic] the law!' ". You said "In many states it is the law if you appear under 45...." Certainly, this is not true. If you are any age or appear to be any age, you do not ever have to show ID (except for like police and stuff, sometimes).
The truth is -- the casino, or actually anyone can request to see your ID, but you do not have to show it. If you don't, they can kick you out. As far as cashing out, it's a little wishy washy there regarding age and ID.
January 5th, 2018 at 3:31:44 PM
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Quote: RSYou directly quoted rainman who said " 'You must give us your ID its [sic] the law!' ". You said "In many states it is the law if you appear under 45...." Certainly, this is not true. If you are any age or appear to be any age, you do not ever have to show ID (except for like police and stuff, sometimes).
The truth is -- the casino, or actually anyone can request to see your ID, but you do not have to show it. If you don't, they can kick you out. As far as cashing out, it's a little wishy washy there regarding age and ID.
Right, and casinos have the right to remove you from the casino floor if you do not show ID.
January 5th, 2018 at 4:40:57 PM
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When I worked in Detroit, you had to show ID just to get in. They scanned it through a reader. If you did not show ID, they refused entry.
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January 5th, 2018 at 4:42:59 PM
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Quote: FCBLComishWhen I worked in Detroit, you had to show ID just to get in. They scanned it through a reader. If you did not show ID, they refused entry.
I've never seen the 3 here do that. Maybe for younger looking people, but not everybody.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
January 5th, 2018 at 6:26:11 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesI've never seen the 3 here do that. Maybe for younger looking people, but not everybody.
I get carded all the time, and there's at least two places in SoCal that will bar you at the door for being under 18/21.
Carded even more often in LV, but never as much as at the Silverton, where they actually pulled me off a craps table and wouldn't allow me to turn off my bets. I came back to a ~250$ loss.
January 6th, 2018 at 11:17:55 AM
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The simple answer on this is that they can request to card you anytime they want and ask you to leave the property if you refuse to show ID. If you have chips or a voucher, I agree, the situation can become a little more hairy, then. I mean, at that point, they have already let you play.
I could see where some people (particularly AP's) would not like this, and I could also see where it would require additional time/staff, but the easiest answer (in my opinion) would be to card 100% of people 100% of the time before allowing admittance to the gaming floor.
I could see where some people (particularly AP's) would not like this, and I could also see where it would require additional time/staff, but the easiest answer (in my opinion) would be to card 100% of people 100% of the time before allowing admittance to the gaming floor.
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January 6th, 2018 at 1:06:59 PM
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Quote: FCBLComishWhen I worked in Detroit, you had to show ID just to get in. They scanned it through a reader. If you did not show ID, they refused entry.
I was in one state (I think NM), where they did that, there was only once main entrance to most places and you had to wait in a line to have your ID checked by bouncers to get in (almost like a club), and there they also has no alcohol or smoking inside the casino which was crazy to me, first state I have ever seen like that.
January 6th, 2018 at 5:54:30 PM
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There's a keen difference between casinos in Vegas and casinos in England.
A casino in Vegas is all about distracting you from the fact it's a casino. Literally millions are poured into making you think you're in a shopping mall, a museum, a movie set, a giant bar, a circus, a club or for North Vegas casinos, a gathering of depressed people in a decrepit smoke factory, which just so happen to have slot machines and table games. Goes without saying that loud music and bells and alarms are part of the norm, it just wouldn't be a casino without it.
Casinos in England, at least the dozen or so I've been to, are all about business. This is a pace you come to gamble and maybe drink and watch sports. It's all about feeding pictures of the queen to machines and pieces of clay to dealers. If there's music it's not very loud. The machines are not very loud. Also due to regulations, there are usually a lot less of them in exchange for every single one being a multi game that for some reason holds two "banks" - active play and bank. The player must transfer all winnings from one to the other in order to play (One or two slot manufacturers stopped doing it, but the majority of machines have this feature.
So one day I'm busy losing money to a pretty dumb game, when an American lady who sits a few seats down starts a conversation with me:
Lady: Is this a casino?
Noy2222: ... Yes?
Lady: This is stupid. Everyone are so quite, it's so empty. It's boring. It's stupid.
Noy2222: Well, I wouldn't say it's stupid, it's very different. American casinos are like a party. Lots of noise, lots of music, bells and alarms all the time, everyone shouting. Over here it tends to be quieter, more polite. It's just the way it's done, I suppose.
Lady: This is stupid. You have to press buttons to pick a game and it doesn't work. This is really boring. Really stupid. The machine keeps pushing my money away.
(She was trying to use a new £10 note came out at the time, and the machines weren't programmed to accept them)
Noy2222: Oh, these are the new £10 bills. The machines are not updates for them yet. Just go to the cashier over there (points) and exchange them.
Lady: This is stupid. They're so strict and so secure over here. You can't do anything. All they care about is their money. This is stupid. This isn't freedom. This is stupid. You can't win anything over here. This is stupid. I'm going. Have fun.
She left and a couple of spins later I broke even on my stupid game.
A casino in Vegas is all about distracting you from the fact it's a casino. Literally millions are poured into making you think you're in a shopping mall, a museum, a movie set, a giant bar, a circus, a club or for North Vegas casinos, a gathering of depressed people in a decrepit smoke factory, which just so happen to have slot machines and table games. Goes without saying that loud music and bells and alarms are part of the norm, it just wouldn't be a casino without it.
Casinos in England, at least the dozen or so I've been to, are all about business. This is a pace you come to gamble and maybe drink and watch sports. It's all about feeding pictures of the queen to machines and pieces of clay to dealers. If there's music it's not very loud. The machines are not very loud. Also due to regulations, there are usually a lot less of them in exchange for every single one being a multi game that for some reason holds two "banks" - active play and bank. The player must transfer all winnings from one to the other in order to play (One or two slot manufacturers stopped doing it, but the majority of machines have this feature.
So one day I'm busy losing money to a pretty dumb game, when an American lady who sits a few seats down starts a conversation with me:
Lady: Is this a casino?
Noy2222: ... Yes?
Lady: This is stupid. Everyone are so quite, it's so empty. It's boring. It's stupid.
Noy2222: Well, I wouldn't say it's stupid, it's very different. American casinos are like a party. Lots of noise, lots of music, bells and alarms all the time, everyone shouting. Over here it tends to be quieter, more polite. It's just the way it's done, I suppose.
Lady: This is stupid. You have to press buttons to pick a game and it doesn't work. This is really boring. Really stupid. The machine keeps pushing my money away.
(She was trying to use a new £10 note came out at the time, and the machines weren't programmed to accept them)
Noy2222: Oh, these are the new £10 bills. The machines are not updates for them yet. Just go to the cashier over there (points) and exchange them.
Lady: This is stupid. They're so strict and so secure over here. You can't do anything. All they care about is their money. This is stupid. This isn't freedom. This is stupid. You can't win anything over here. This is stupid. I'm going. Have fun.
She left and a couple of spins later I broke even on my stupid game.
January 6th, 2018 at 6:21:26 PM
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Quote: gamerfreakI play a lot of 3CP...
1. "Look how much you would have won if you played PP and 3CB"
2. "What are you doing? The money is all up here!"
3. "You're required to make a PP bet."
#3 does not happen often, but the times it has I've had to call a pit boss over
If I'm going to play a game like 3CP, I'm hoping to hit a big hand rather than grind away on the ante/play, so I usually put something on the PP. But the few times that I didn't, it's amazing how much it irritates the other players and even the dealer.
January 6th, 2018 at 6:47:30 PM
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Some senior citizen guy was laughing a second time saying he won $14 on a $.40 bet. Irritated i said $14 was a lot of money. Naturally he says he isn't trying to get rich.
I am a robot.
January 12th, 2018 at 7:50:18 AM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleSome senior citizen guy was laughing a second time saying he won $14 on a $.40 bet. Irritated i said $14 was a lot of money. Naturally he says he isn't trying to get rich.
Do you mean "$14 wasn't a lot of money?" I guess it's DECENT, but not great. I mean 35 times your bet isn't bad but when you get 3500 times your bet is when you should be dancing in the casino. ;) I saw a woman win like $1400 on a .40 bet. She was ecstatic saying "I hit the big one on only .40!
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January 12th, 2018 at 8:32:22 AM
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You seem to be assuming that the dealer knows that stuff. He probably doesn't know it at all. He just knows he has been told to do it.Quote: beachbumbabsWhy is it ok for a dealer to try and talk you out of any bet where you now have the advantage?
I met one dealer who was sincerely giving me what he thought was good advice about calling 'no action' when its either six or eight. He was wrong but it was ignorance not evil intent. In post Katrina Biloxi there were a lot of new hires and a lot of promoted personnel who simply got lucky, they sure didn't earn their promotions on merit.
January 12th, 2018 at 10:17:52 AM
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I got into it with a pit boss at craps when my best bud in the world texted me that he was expecting a child, and I was turning my back, taking a few steps away from the table to text him back. He raised his voice at me as I was texting to repeatedly tell me no electronics at the table. "Sir, no phones at the table." "SIR, NO PHONES AT THE TABLE!" I was a few steps away from the table with back turned to the action!I was livid. I've done that a hundred times while playing craps and was NEVER treated like that from the pit. Cashed and told him he was a prick. I know the dealers didn't appreciate it because I was tipping $5 on the pass every roll.
January 12th, 2018 at 1:01:16 PM
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Quote:I got into it with a pit boss at craps when my best bud in the world texted me that he was expecting a child, and I was turning my back, taking a few steps away from the table to text him back. He raised his voice at me as I was texting to repeatedly tell me no electronics at the table. "Sir, no phones at the table." "SIR, NO PHONES AT THE TABLE!" I was a few steps away from the table with back turned to the action!I was livid. I've done that a hundred times while playing craps and was NEVER treated like that from the pit. Cashed and told him he was a prick. I know the dealers didn't appreciate it because I was tipping $5 on the pass every roll.
I would have been livid too. Both of you are adults and he is not your parent! And shouldn't have been yelling at you! Get out of here! I would have told him off too!
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January 12th, 2018 at 4:52:14 PM
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January 12th, 2018 at 10:13:13 PM
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Quote: ECoasterIf I'm going to play a game like 3CP, I'm hoping to hit a big hand rather than grind away on the ante/play, so I usually put something on the PP. But the few times that I didn't, it's amazing how much it irritates the other players and even the dealer.
One lady got so upset with how “stupidly” I was playing that she left the table.
A different lady kept trying to get the whole table to play blind and got irate when I wouldn’t play along.
Once in a while there will be a sharp dealer who knows the house edge and says I’m playing the smartest way possible. Not often, though. Dealers are often just as superstitious as the ploppies.
January 13th, 2018 at 8:09:39 AM
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Years ago I was in a major Strip casino (don't remember which one) and I asked an employee (looked like a manager or pit boss type) where the mini-bac tables were. He said they didn't have any. I thought that was really odd since that game is in like every freakin' casino in the world, and as soon as he walked off I saw the mini-bac tables like 50 feet behind him. I left that casino and went somewhere else.
January 15th, 2018 at 9:00:08 AM
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From a casino employyee; nothing jumps to mind. As a DP player I've been called quite a few things over the years by others at the craps table.
"I should have bet black." - Winston Churchill .
January 17th, 2018 at 4:14:14 PM
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Quote: Lucca3927From a casino employyee; nothing jumps to mind. As a DP player I've been called quite a few things over the years by others at the craps table.
What is DP? :/
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January 17th, 2018 at 4:34:44 PM
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Quote: NathanWhat is DP? :/
The Don't Pass line on the Craps table. A Darkside Player.
What they can never figure out is that I'm not playing against them, but the house. The Pass line players don't have any edge against me, but the house does. Dopes.
"I should have bet black." - Winston Churchill .
January 18th, 2018 at 9:22:57 AM
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I think this might be something else that can upset me quite a bit in a casino... Pass line players will often clap at, cheer at, and make fun of don't pass players when in reality it's like betting red/black on roulette. The sheer stupidity of "most" pass line players is amazing, especially considering the don't pass is mathematically the better bet.Quote: Lucca3927The Don't Pass line on the Craps table. A Darkside Player.
What they can never figure out is that I'm not playing against them, but the house. The Pass line players don't have any edge against me, but the house does. Dopes.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
January 18th, 2018 at 11:02:09 AM
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Twice at Hollywood casinos, employees not only claimed the slot machines were not tightened, they claimed they were the ones who change them and they didn't change anything. Years apart between comments, can only assume they're trained to say this. I also am sure they lied about the machines.
I am a robot.
January 18th, 2018 at 1:29:53 PM
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Quote: RomesI think this might be something else that can upset me quite a bit in a casino... Pass line players will often clap at, cheer at, and make fun of don't pass players when in reality it's like betting red/black on roulette. The sheer stupidity of "most" pass line players is amazing, especially considering the don't pass is mathematically the better bet.
The power of superstition is dumbfounding.
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January 18th, 2018 at 3:14:13 PM
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Quote: RomesI think this might be something else that can upset me quite a bit in a casino... Pass line players will often clap at, cheer at, and make fun of don't pass players when in reality it's like betting red/black on roulette. The sheer stupidity of "most" pass line players is amazing, especially considering the don't pass is mathematically the better bet.
As a don't pass player, I don't mind the cheering when pass line players win. What I don't get is how eager these players are to knock off a DC bet that has zero consequence to them. For example, the point is 9 and a DC gets bet and the roll is 10. By the way some guys act, you'd think they would rather roll the 10 (without any bet on the 10 themselves, btw) than make the point.
January 18th, 2018 at 7:33:20 PM
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Another thing that I do, or should I say not do, is relegate myself to that tiny space between the dealer and the rope at the end of the table to make my darkside bets. I just go to a roomy area and bet from there. It's been my observation that most Darkside players go to the corner. Nobody's ever said anything, but I've gotten a few looks that say "go back there where you belong."
"I should have bet black." - Winston Churchill .
January 18th, 2018 at 8:16:22 PM
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Quote: Lucca3927Another thing that I do, or should I say not do, is relegate myself to that tiny space between the dealer and the rope at the end of the table to make my darkside bets. I just go to a roomy area and bet from there. It's been my observation that most Darkside players go to the corner. Nobody's ever said anything, but I've gotten a few looks that say "go back there where you belong."
I always just viewed that as a practical consideration so you don't have to faceplant the table trying to get to the DC.
January 19th, 2018 at 5:57:49 AM
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Might as well, but don't think "somewhere else" will necessarily be all that different. Dealer ignorance can be incredible,Quote: TigerWu. I left that casino and went somewhere else.
January 19th, 2018 at 6:08:05 AM
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Dont Pass. Dealers don't like them because it can drive tippers away as players grumble and drift away because someone is betting against them and ruining the general jovial atmosphere at the table,Quote: NathanWhat is DP? :/
