Casino Pet Peeves
There is a joker at Casino in Australia who turns up everyday but never bets.
He just writes down the roulette numbers.
The story was his wife played the slots.
But, I saw him arrive one day and he was wifeless.
Quote: EvenBobMark Twain was asked by Bell to invest in his phone, but Twain thought it was too strange and nobody would use it much. He was half right...
Obviously not.
Quote: CalderObviously not.
Twain thought all the phone would be used for was ordering groceries and making doctors appointments. He instead chose to invest his considerable fortune in an automatic typesetting machine for newspapers. He died broke.
Quote: CalderWell, yeah, that's my point. If he'd sunk his money into the phone, there might still be a Twain Foundation.
And in 1992, Bill Gates thought the internet would never amount to anything. In 1997 he said "if you told me 5 years ago that I'd be seeing a web address at the end of McDonalds commercials, I would have said you were nuts." Hindsight is always 20/20. If Gates couldn't imagine the internet going anywhere, how can we fault Twain for not seeing what phones would become.
I didn't fault Sam for not investing in the telephone, you did. If Bill thought the internet wasn't going anywhere, he'd have sold out in '92, and you wouldn't have that '97 quote.
While taking the "call" one can continue counting and return to the game if conditions improve or simply wait for the shuffle.
Quote: EvenBobBeyond smokers and talkers and people who scream a lot, beyond invisable waitresses and rude dealers. My biggest pet peeve is cell phones. I hate them. Just yesterday, the woman next to me was checking her phone every 30 seconds and I'm not exaggerating. Pull it out, stare at it, put it away. Pull it out, stare at it, put it away. Several times she left the table to text somebody. It was driving me nuts. I have a phone, its never turned on. My wife has the number, but she can't call because its always off. I'm like Buckminster Fuller who didn't have a phone because 'its like having a rope tied around your leg. Anytime somebody wants you, they just jerk on the rope.' Mark Twain was asked by Bell to invest in his phone, but Twain thought it was too strange and nobody would use it much. He was half right, mostly people use it to spread their comments that nobody cares about. Oh boy.
Your last line is the money quote. When I am forced to hear others' conversations at close range, I want to strangle the person. And you know that 99% of the people using their cell phones in their cars illegally are engaged in similar meaningless conversation.
Quote: CalderI didn't fault Sam for not investing in the telephone, you did. If Bill thought the internet wasn't going anywhere, he'd have sold out in '92, and you wouldn't have that '97 quote.
No. If he had thought the internet would amount to something back in 92, Gates would have launched Windows Internet Explorer then, rather than wait for Netscape to beat him to it. He probably would have been spared a costly anti-trust trial, too.
Instead of focusing ont eh web back then, Gates and other people in the computer industry of the time, were looking for the "killer app" that would launch the home PC market sky-high once and for all. Of course the killer app turned out to be the web, but no one knew it at the time...
Quote: cclub79Your last line is the money quote. When I am forced to hear others' conversations at close range, I want to strangle the person. And you know that 99% of the people using their cell phones in their cars illegally are engaged in similar meaningless conversation.
I've read 80% of all cell calls and texts are 'useless' information, things like 'how are you' and what you had for lunch and watched on TV last night.
Quote: CalderBob: I think we're on the same side.
I didn't fault Sam for not investing in the telephone, you did. If Bill thought the internet wasn't going anywhere, he'd have sold out in '92, and you wouldn't have that '97 quote.
Its a well known fact that internet the explosion caught Microsoft completely by surprise, they never saw it coming. Gates freely admits it now, he also admits some of his best people were trying to push him into doing more on on it.
I'm with the Wizard though, smoking is the worst. One reason I mainly stick to poker now. Oh and the deliberately confusing layouts get old too.
Quote: clarkacalMost of my pet peeves are at a craps table. People at the other end hanging their hands over the rail, people slowing down the game with $1 bets every roll, and people not paying attention and placing bets when the dice are out.
I'm with the Wizard though, smoking is the worst. One reason I mainly stick to poker now. Oh and the deliberately confusing layouts get old too.
I don't play craps, and I hate to say it, but all the screaming at the craps tables really gets on my nerves. You aren't children, quit acting like it. Its not needed. Once in awhile, OK. But having it go on for 10min is just acting stupid, you aren't the only people in the casino, and no, we aren't happy you won, we could care less.
Quote:Gates freely admits it now, he also admits some of his best people were trying to push him into doing more on on it.
Of course, I wish my mistakes were so great I could give away a billion or so at retirement age and not sweat it.
Quote: rxwineI generally hate kids in casinos. Not small ones (tots, toddlers, babies, or even 7 year olds I don't mind) Just the teens. Okay, mostly local teens.
I've never seen a casino that allows kids on the casino floor. Where are you located?
But I visit mostly the casinos offstrip, and while they are not at tables, it's sometimes a big teen hangout on the weekends at some of them.
I think craps is very unique in that in no other game are so many people in such a small area and betting on the same thing, so the noise and excitement is unavoidable at times.
Also, as far as the smoking issue. Smoking in the presence of others is no different than constantly passing gas. It's something you enjoy and makes you feel good but it pollutes the air for everyone else. One time a guy smoking a cigar at my table was agitated because I was chewing ice. I ignored him and kept chewing ice of course.
I'm in a casino every weekend, all weekend..and believe me, it gets OLD to hear people ALL night "yaaay...yaaaay....yaaaaay". It's like, "Wow, have you never won $5 before?"
At a crap table, it's a LITTLE different..no need to scream EVERY roll..but maybe the rolls that equal big winnings (For instance, if the point was 4 and the shooter rolled it Hard-4, that would be a cheerable thing).
The FUNNIEST thing, is what I call "Phantoms"...people that stand around the crap table, watching, with absolutely no intent to ever make a bet...WTF?! A lot of times, they won't even do it at a crowded table! I'll be the only one shooting and the Phantom will come up and just stand there and look at me...Strangely enough, when I 7-out, they usually RUN away, as if something BIT them.
Also, now that I think about it, people who buy in, IN THE MIDDLE OF A GOOD ROLL, with $20, on a $5 game...then DON'T bet right away...WTF?! What's the point??? Why not just wait until they've either rolled their point or 7-out, and you can get in on the action...
Sure, its a casino. Its a festive environment and people are often there with friends who want to be involved in the game to some degree. Its a social occasion for some small groups of players, but its serious business afoot and I don't want constant screaming.
Hands in while the dice are out really aggravates me. Also, the player who brings the entire table to a halt when he argues that he had a hardway bet, even though it already came easy. Pay attention!
I used to wait until a 7 out to buy in, generally for 700 to 1000. However, after I missed quite a few good rolls, I decided that is giving money away. But I don't want to interrupt the shooter either. So what I have settled on, is to put my buy in on the rail, so the box can see I have cash ready to come in. I then announce my bets (say 85 inside) and throw the 100 on the table. It only takes them a couple of seconds to check the bill, give me my 15 change, and my bets are up. If something happens where I need to get more chips into the game, I will do the same with another 100. In the meantime, the box has taken my card, and I will verbally confirm what my full buy in will be, ie I will tell him 1000 total coming in. As soon as there is a 7 out, I turn the rest of the cash into chips.
Question. For those of you who are bothered by a buy in during a roll, Would this bother you? Is it the act of buying in that disrupts you, or is it the length of the interruption that is most upsetting?
Quote: RaleighCrapsminor thread hijack, but since people buying in in the middle of a good roll was listed, I will use that as my excuse..........
I used to wait until a 7 out to buy in, generally for 700 to 1000. However, after I missed quite a few good rolls, I decided that is giving money away. But I don't want to interrupt the shooter either. So what I have settled on, is to put my buy in on the rail, so the box can see I have cash ready to come in. I then announce my bets (say 85 inside) and throw the 100 on the table. It only takes them a couple of seconds to check the bill, give me my 15 change, and my bets are up. If something happens where I need to get more chips into the game, I will do the same with another 100. In the meantime, the box has taken my card, and I will verbally confirm what my full buy in will be, ie I will tell him 1000 total coming in. As soon as there is a 7 out, I turn the rest of the cash into chips.
Question. For those of you who are bothered by a buy in during a roll, Would this bother you? Is it the act of buying in that disrupts you, or is it the length of the interruption that is most upsetting?
I would not be bothered at all, and in fact would be very impressed by your consideration. It is the disruption of checking the count, and displaying it for the camera that is disturbing. It breaks the "rhythm" of the shooter.
Quote: RaleighCraps
Question. For those of you who are bothered by a buy in during a roll,
Would this bother you?
Yes.
A Craps buy-in during a roll.
Does not matter how you sugar coat it, I think it still is rude.
Quote: RaleighCrapsIs it the act of buying in that disrupts you,
or is it the length of the interruption that is most upsetting?
The act of buying in bothers me because when one buys in during a hand, another says if he can do so will I.
It is a practice that should be stopped, because it only benefits one player out of many.
and...Because it slows the table down, even for a roll or two, If the dice do not roll, players can NOT win.
Here is what I do:
If my buy-in is $1000 I just go to the cage way before hand to get my chips. Mostly $100s and a few $25, That way I can walk up to the table and bet right away. Casinos in Vegas do it all the time for me and I have never had a problem. Most cashiers ask why dont I just buy in at the table, I give them my reasons for the craps table and they all have thought it was a very good idea..
Quote: TIMSPEEDI'll go with the screamers as being my top pet-peeve.
Now that I complained here about the screamers, I'm really aware of them. Tonight they were drowning out everything to the point that a woman at my table was yelling at them to shut up. Quite entertaining. Here's another pet peeve. I write on a scorecard when I play roulette and every session someone walking by will ask "Got it all figured out?" and act like they are really pleased with it, like nobody ever said it before. Even in Vegas they do it, its really annoying. I never look up or say a word.
Late bettors at the other end of the table from the shooter. If I'm shooting, I'll just wait. There always seems to be some guy (always with a girl) who doesn't really know what he's doing and they're debating and fooling around with the chips on the table. I never shoot if there's hands in, and if a guy's been fooling around rearranging his bets, I'll look at him and say "You ready?" (in a friendly way, I'm not trying to chill the guy out or show him up). I usually play a few hours at a time, so I don't mind slowing the game down, and the dealers never give me any crap about it because I tip well.
I wait for a seven out before I buy in, but when people don't, it doesn't bother me, even if I'm shooting.
Only other thing that bugs me is people who toss their chips to the stick without any attempt to keep them from rolling all over the table. No, you're not impressing anyone by treating a whopping $2 with such disdain. Exception - a Chinese guy who bought in with a $50k marker - he'd turn his back to the table and throw $500 chips over his shoulder.
And with respect to people who kind of hover around a table - I'll do that, although I stay a few feet away - I spend five minutes or so walking around all the tables sizing up the players and the crews and the open positions (I have a favorite position) before I pick one.
It is all random...sometimes the randomness is in your favor. Seize it.
Quote:Smoking in the presence of others is no different than constantly passing gas. It's something you enjoy and makes you feel good but it pollutes the air for everyone else.
Okay, okay, now you've mentioned something, whereas regardless of any lung cancer I may develop, I'd just as soon smell smoke all day if I have to choose between the two.
Quote: guido111Yes.
A Craps buy-in during a roll.
Does not matter how you sugar coat it, I think it still is rude.
The act of buying in bothers me because when one buys in during a hand, another says if he can do so will I.
It is a practice that should be stopped, because it only benefits one player out of many.
and...Because it slows the table down, even for a roll or two, If the dice do not roll, players can NOT win.
I usually wait for a 7-out for my buy-in, but while I've been waiting I have been prompted by the dealers who say, "Throw your money in and call for change only. We'll handle it." Even then I wait for the point to be resolved before I lay any chips down.
The casino doesn't care about common courtesy, the casino cares about cash.
Quote: clarkacalAlso, as far as the smoking issue. Smoking in the presence of others is no different than constantly passing gas.
Define "constantly passing gas." When I'm next to you at a table, I have to breathe in your breath, whether it's got pussy or cock or ass or garlic on it, or $1,000 worth of "Kobe sliders".
Quote: clarkacalOne time a guy smoking a cigar at my table was agitated because I was chewing ice. I ignored him and kept chewing ice of course.
Did he tell you your chewing ice was bothering him, or are you imagining it because you're a moralist against smoking?
Quote: ChuckWhen I'm next to you at a table, I have to breathe in your breath, whether it's got pussy or cock or ass or garlic on it, or $1,000 worth of "Kobe sliders".
Which reminds me of the most horrible experience I've ever encountered at a Craps table. An elderly gentleman(>70y), who usually plays more than a few afternoons a week, sits on a stool borrowed from a nearby TCP table. Sometimes he even brings his invalid wife, to get her out of the house. He'll play 2-3 hours at a time.
Unfortunately, this was the only table open on a Friday afternoon and it was fairly full, so I took the rail space next to him and bought in for my usual $100. Within a few minutes, I start to get the smell of old man urine. Is it me, is it the guy on the other side...I look at the dealer on my end, even he is disgusted but can't very well move. I immediately pick up my chips and move to the other end of the table where a spot had just cleared out.
FWIW, I work in the Operating Room all week long and have a pretty high tolerance for ALOT of things but stinky piss isn't one of them.
Please, Please, Please...wash your cock and balls before you leave the house!
Maybe some clean Drawers too!
Quote: ten2winWhich reminds me of the most horrible experience I've ever encountered at a Craps table. An elderly gentleman(>70y), who usually plays more than a few afternoons a week, sits on a stool borrowed from a nearby TCP table. Sometimes he even brings his invalid wife, to get her out of the house. He'll play 2-3 hours at a time.
Unfortunately, this was the only table open on a Friday afternoon and it was fairly full, so I took the rail space next to him and bought in for my usual $100. Within a few minutes, I start to get the smell of old man urine. Is it me, is it the guy on the other side...I look at the dealer on my end, even he is disgusted but can't very well move. I immediately pick up my chips and move to the other end of the table where a spot had just cleared out.
FWIW, I work in the Operating Room all week long and have a pretty high tolerance for ALOT of things but stinky piss isn't one of them.
Please, Please, Please...wash your cock and balls before you leave the house!
Maybe some clean Drawers too!
Fuck you, you don't work in an Operating Room if you make a lame ass joke like that.
Here's how the joke goes:
"We'll need a blood sample, a urine sample, and a stool sample"
"Can I just give you my underwear?"
Quote: ChuckFuck you, you don't work in an Operating Room if you make a lame ass joke like that.
Which was the joke part, I don't see it.
Quote: guido111
Here is what I do:
If my buy-in is $1000 I just go to the cage way before hand to get my chips. Mostly $100s and a few $25, That way I can walk up to the table and bet right away. Casinos in Vegas do it all the time for me and I have never had a problem. Most cashiers ask why dont I just buy in at the table, I give them my reasons for the craps table and they all have thought it was a very good idea..
guido,
I like this. The only negative I can see is I feel putting chips on the rack does not count in your comp quite the same as putting cash on the felt. It may all count the same, but I feel the cash still gets more attention, and results in a bit better rating. I have no proof of this, it is just a feeling.
Even with that, I still could get a hundred in chips to do as you suggest, which I think is a really good solution. So bring 100 in chips, and 900 in cash. I like it
Quote: ten2winPlease, Please, Please...wash your cock and balls before you leave the house!
Sound advice. You might consider adopting it as your signature.
As others have pointed out, when I am shooting I am aware of hands in the tub at the other end. I KNOW it has nothing to do with the outcome, but still nothing is worse than hitting hands and seeing the 7 out. So, when the stick pushes the dice to me, if there has been late action at the other end of the table, I will not pick up the dice until they are done betting. This is a matter of 4 or 5 seconds at most, but some sticks will get on my case, "Dice are out, time to shoot." My usual retort is, "Don't send me the dice until the betting is done at the other end of the table."
I had one stick who was being a real jerk about it 3 or 4 times, so I made him take the dice back to the center of the table which really pissed him off. I was still steaming when he left for break, so I had a conversation with my dealer that mentioned there must be other Georges that I wasn't seeing, because it seemed like that stick isn't interested in getting any more of my tips.
On my last trip I was having a rough go up to this point. I was throwing, had made two points and a few inside numbers. A don't player, playing full odds, was down the rail where I was landing the dice, and he started making late bets after my second point. Hand out making a bet every time I picked up the dice. So I am watching him close. The dice come to me, I reach down keeping an eye on him, and sure enough, out comes his hand to put 25 on the field. So I paused. His hand goes back to the rail, I pick up the dice and toss. Just as I let go, he reaches back down to the felt and picks up his 25 field bet! Both dice hit his hand, 7 out! I knew the box wouldn't do anything about my result, but I was surprised they let him keep the $25 he picked up from the field. If it had been some donkey not knowing what they were doing I could live with it, but this was a case of a Don't intentionally screwing with me as the shooter. Yes, I know it could just have easily come up as the point, and he would have lost, but it didn't, so he got the result he wanted, and I didn't. Needless to say I immediately switched tables.
Quote: EvenBobSometimes I sit at a slot machine and watch a roulette table before I play. Inevitably, whether in Vegas or local, some old lady will come along and want to play the machine I'm sitting at. Every machine in the row is empty, but because I'm blocking them from playing the one I'm sitting at, the old lady figures thats the winning machine. This has happened to me 50 times at least, it drives me nuts. Usually I say no, I'm not getting up, play another machine. Sometimes they go ballistic and go get a casino employee. Even then I don't get up, I tell them I'm waiting for the machine to 'recycle' before I play. I've had the old ladies cuss me out many times. Superstitious old bags.
I do that too, waiting for a blackjack shoe to end so I can enter on a fresh shuffle. My solution is to put $5 or $10 in the machine. Then you can just say "oh, no. I have cash in on this one. I'm just taking a little break." They take that much better than if I'm just sitting there, though they've still cursed at me a couple times.
Bob, if it were me next to you and I saw you were getting annoyed each time I looked at my phone doing my own personal thing that has zero to do with you, I'd double or even triple the frequency of phone checks.
Quote: rdw4potusMy solution is to put $5 or $10 in the machine.
I did that for awhile, but its more fun to watch them get mad. They say 'I want to play that machine' and I say 'Tough luck, I'm playing it.' They say I'm just sitting there and I tell them to play another machine. Thats when the fun starts. Its always a woman, never a man. Brainiacs..
Quote: JerryLoganNothing is even close to being as bad as the stupid smokers.
Bob, if it were me next to you and I saw you were getting annoyed each time I looked at my phone doing my own personal thing that has zero to do with you, I'd double or even triple the frequency of phone checks.
Good luck with that, I never show my annoyance about anything. You wouldn't have a clue.
Quote: JerryLoganSo you hold it all inside?
Yes Jerry, I'm afraid I do. You'll have to find another fly to pull the wings off of.
I think it's rude for another player to ask you to move, when there are other machines available.Quote: EvenBobSometimes I sit at a slot machine and watch a roulette table before I play...
...I tell them I'm waiting for the machine to 'recycle' before I play.
Who knows why she wants your machine? Maybe she had good luck at that machine in the past. Maybe that machine is different than the one next to it. Maybe she thinks you're sitting there not playing because you busted out, and therefore that machine is "due". Whatever.
If you're really waiting for the machine to "recycle", that's one thing. But if you're suddenly inclined to stay longer at the machine, simply because you were asked to move, then it's equally rude for you to not comply.
Then it has to be the dealer that has been dealing 35 years, and tells you that he dealt at Bellago, and now is dealing in Boulder Station. What does that tell you right away, the guy can't deal, then when he does not place your bets right, he goes on to tell you that he is a professional dealer and knows what he is doing, well you could have fooled me!
Dealers or boxmen that do not control the game, they allow late bets, never tell anybody hands up, or allow someone who is so drunk that they can just about stand to get more drinks!
Dealers that try to make fun about you tracking the table “Look we have a dice counter”
Dealer that hate their job and are always talking about getting a early out!
Dealers that never shut their mouths, they never stop talking!
Dealers that are sticking their hands in moving chips around when the shooter is shooting!
Players that have been playing 45 years and never learned anything about the game they do the same stupid things day after day!
Then you have the players the are betting the right side of the table and there is a good roll going on, and they throw in a big red, or a three-way seven, the bet they just made will not cover what they are going to lose, because they never turned off their bets or took them down!
Players that buy-in when a roll is going on, and they buy-in for $500 in mixed bills that have to be counted out!
Players that stack their chips on the pass-line as high as they can get them!
Players that insist the woman who does not want to shoot, shoots by putting up a bet for them even when the guy, that the dice was going to had roll's in the twenties every time he had the dice and he is setting the dice and just banging the same points!
Players that scream out for points to be made, Players that scream at the top of their lungs when the point is made!
