MrV
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January 29th, 2017 at 11:52:44 AM permalink
The music in NYNY is too loud, and I'm a fan of that type of music.

Strip casinos should offer self serve non-alcoholic drink stations, like tribal casinos do.

I'm not a fan of garish, brightly colored table layouts.
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January 29th, 2017 at 12:47:18 PM permalink
Quote: MrV



Strip casinos should offer self serve non-alcoholic drink stations, like tribal casinos do.



How many times has this come up here.
They tried it years ago in a couple
places and homeless people were
lined up out the door. Some of them
with jugs to fill up.
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January 29th, 2017 at 12:53:04 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Some of them with jugs to fill up.

NOW, you tell me!
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January 29th, 2017 at 1:07:14 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

NOW, you tell me!



You live on the streets and Ballys has
as much free coffee and soft drinks
as you want, what would you do.
Steal a 1/2 gallon thermos and
fill er up a few times a day. When
is the last time you saw a homeless
person at a tribal casino.
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January 29th, 2017 at 1:22:50 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

How many times has this come up here.
They tried it years ago in a couple
places and homeless people were
lined up out the door. Some of them
with jugs to fill up.



It is still an inconvenience that I do not like, and one reason I prefer tribal casinos to Las Vegas.

I can see your argument about soft drink and coffee, but christ on a crutch, there are no water fountains.

What, I need to wait, find a CW, ask for a water and tip her when I want some water?
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January 29th, 2017 at 6:18:43 PM permalink
I hate when every casino plays that crappy country music during rodeo week.

I hate when I'm the only one at the craps table and playing the Dark Side, the dealer says on the come-out "Seven, seven, winner seven" Really? Then pay me! Or after a point I finally roll a seven, he says "Seven seven, line away, loser seven." No dude, pay me. I'm playing the Don'ts. Pay attention jackass. I'm the only one here.
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January 29th, 2017 at 6:37:37 PM permalink
People who buy in for $1000 at a $10 pai gow table, play $10 a hand for 15 minutes, then color up.
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January 29th, 2017 at 7:41:39 PM permalink
At the 3/6 limit poker table the guy who buys in for $500 (5 racks), then sets them on the table. Then he slows the game down because each time it is his turn he has to decide whether to drag out his chips out of one of the racks. Then 15 minutes later he is asking the floor to color him up.
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January 29th, 2017 at 8:10:17 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

People begging me for money after they lose their money is a huge peeve for me. It's not my fault or problem that you were so irresponsible with your money.

People smoking me out of a slot machine is a huge peeve for me. I was playing a slot machine just minding my own business when a woman came after me and sat next to me, deliberately blowing her smoke near my face. My body language made it clear I did not want the smoke near my face. Disgusted face and frantically waving the smoke away from my face would be clear to anyone with even half an ant's brain that I really did not her smoking near my face. She continued smoking near my face and I had enough and finally cashed out and got up. She was smirking and sat on the game she smoked me out of. I really should have just pressed the service button and let the casino staff handle that.

So, what are your peeves in casinos?



On our trip to Las Vegas this past Oct 2016, we recently experienced one BJ pet peeve, one buffet pet peeve, and one show pet peeve < This is from my OP; seems to be a popular repeat topic, and rightly so! https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/27486-blackjack-pet-peeve/ >

1. Buffet gluttons (ok, pigs) who put mountains of food on their plate. Why? It's a buffet. You can come back as many times as you like! What's worse? The same glutton who lets his noodles hang 6" OVER the plate, then they parade around the buffet to see if there's anything else they might have missed!
2. FUEs or Fans, Uber-enthusiastic. We had prime seats for a Celine Dion show, only 8 rows from front stage, right of center. The show, singing, cast, and theatrics were top shelf. Our enjoyment was slightly spoiled by 5 FUEs in rows 3 and 4 who thought it was appropriate to stand up and clap after EVERY song. They ruined our otherwise super view of front stage. Worse than that? They also tried to rush the stage to steal a selfie after each song! Tks Caesar Palace security for seating them again!
3. Nasty black jack seat mates (at The Cal). I was really afraid of what might happen on my first sit-down at a real live blackjack table! On my 2nd bankroll session (20 min), I had a real nasty commenter seated on my right. As I am assertive-challenged, I opted for the deaf ear approach, especially as I continued to win despite his hackling me continuously.
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January 29th, 2017 at 8:22:30 PM permalink
The ol "I'm deaf" approach will really piss off an already pissed off player, especially if it's after you've been talking.
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January 29th, 2017 at 8:53:27 PM permalink
Quote: bw

People who buy in for $1000 at a $10 pai gow table, play $10 a hand for 15 minutes, then color up.

If the cards are not flowing you got to move on. (-;
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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January 29th, 2017 at 8:56:11 PM permalink
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When people rip the door frame off the wall because they don't understand how a typical hotel door lock chain works.

Some people just dont know their own strength.

shoes make good hammers.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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January 29th, 2017 at 9:01:46 PM permalink
Quote: zippyboy

I hate when I'm the only one at the craps table and playing the Dark Side, the dealer says on the come-out "Seven, seven, winner seven" Really? Then pay me! Or after a point I finally roll a seven, he says "Seven seven, line away, loser seven." No dude, pay me. I'm playing the Don'ts. Pay attention jackass. I'm the only one here.

Sorry Zippyboy, but the Stick is being quite correct and is indeed making the correct calls. The calls are for the dealers, the box and the floor to hear. It is known as PROCEDURES and the calls do NOT change even if there is only one player at the table and that player is shooting from the Don't, hoping they won't.

You may find it annoying. The stick may find it annoying too, but he will be written up if he does not do it and do it properly each and every time.

Pet peeve? Hey, you be glad you have dealers who are trained and doing what they are supposed to be doing without making changes or taking short cuts. Its those procedures that protect your money. Of course the procedures are there to protect the casino's money but you get the idea. That is why a pit boss can be on the other side of the pit and facing away from the table... but still listening for those same boring calls.

Its like that incident eons ago when MY base dealer was pushing out a stack of chips to me since I had just bought in.... and the dealer at the other end of the table called out loud and clear 'short stack'. He saw what he THOUGHT was a short stack being pushed out to a player and he called it out loud and clear. Well, good for him. He was wrong. I had only bought in for 80, not 100 as he had assumed. He had been busy at his end of the table, but when he saw what he thought was an error he called it out immediately. That's my kind of crew. They follow procedures.
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January 29th, 2017 at 9:33:24 PM permalink
People standing over your shoulder very close and commenting on your cards or giving you advice on how to play.
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January 29th, 2017 at 10:05:47 PM permalink
Crews that never make mistakes. Especially dice crews!
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January 29th, 2017 at 10:35:09 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Some people just dont know their own strength.

shoes make good hammers.



Yeah....retard strength. :)
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January 30th, 2017 at 12:38:57 AM permalink
Idiots at roulette that buy in for $200, and
spread all 200 chips all over the board. Of
course they win every spin and slow the
game down because of all the payoffs
the dealer has to make. Never seen one
of them that walks away a winner, they
never know when to stop.
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January 30th, 2017 at 12:48:14 AM permalink
Resort fees.

Parking fees.
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January 30th, 2017 at 1:25:39 AM permalink
SMOKERS.
People that see you are about to sit down to play,that tell you they are playing 2 spots,even though they have only been playing 1 spot for the last 20 minutes.

Dealers that ask you what your name is.

Cashiers that say congratulations when they have no idea whether you've won or lost.

Dealers that hesitate and pretend they cleaning up the rack to stall for time when it's almost their break time.
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January 30th, 2017 at 7:58:18 AM permalink
Slow (speedwise, not IQ) people in general

More towards casino employees then customers

I want to play my freebet ASAP. Look at the voucher, put it on wherever I want, and play the hand out. Pay me in the largest chips as I'm going to the cage right after I win.

Taxables. Let's expedite the process so I can put the money back in the machine, or leave.

Waiters/Waitresses that are chatting about nonsense while my food is on the heat lamp.

Casinos that have the freeplay credits build up as you play a hand, and you can't speed it up. Not too bad if you only have $100 and play $5 a hand, pretty bad when you have $1000. Pure hell when you have $5k.

People who made dumbass teaser/parlay bets off the board and take forever. Can we get a seperate line for exotic bets? The usual amount they play is $2.

Bartenders who hawk your machine like a..... hawk. Get me my drink, and gtfo. I don't care about your life story. You don't care about mine. We are both there to make money.

Dealers or casino people who can't read the air. I don't know anyone who is in a good mood while losing.

Some security guard thought I was silver mining when I was poking through a machine. What he didn't know was I was looking to play 5c max bet on slots ($10 a hand) and had I not been on a play he could have chased me away. People like that.

People who stand behind you while you play slots or video poker. What's the point of railing someone who you don't have a stake? I've noticed more times then not they are Asians.

Crappy WIFI. Our veterans didn't fight for this country for us to have sub-par internet in which to look at cats on youtube. Even worse then crappy casino WIFI is crappy casino room WIFI. This should be illegal.

Being treated like a criminal or lowlife when getting rejected on half points. Some ticket writers take it personal when you put in good bets. I've always look at the writers as the part of the evil empire, but not evil themselves. They have a job to do, just like I have a job to put these tickets in.

People who ask me for money. I used to be nice and turn people down but recently have become Mr. IDGAF turning these people down.

TITOs that spit out $20s when you clearly want a $100. $185 TITO becomes 9 $20s and a $5. What part of the game is this?

Machines that take forever to accept bills. Caesers high limit is pretty awesome, it sucks up money like a vaccum.

Chatty Kathy's. This one not so much since people come to casinos to have fun and socialize. I prefer not to do any talking since I am working.

People who try to sell me $25 matchplays from a receipt.

People who try to sell me watches or phones or something stupid.

People who tell me Seattle should have run the ball

Chargers fans (before the move, now I feel sorry for them)

Rightsiders on craps giving darksiders a hard time

Places that don't let you double dip freeplay before and after midnight

Mailers which don't specify exact locations if it's a chain.

Mailers that don't come in until the first cycle of the month.

Patriots fans

People who park their cars to take up over 1 parking spot. I'll get my car in the spot next to it regardless

Places that don't have priority lines, or higher tier cards for that matter (SOUTH POINT)

Useless player club people who don't know their promotions

LOUD keno machines

3D slot machines

Curtains that leave that opening in the middle

People that play the machine next to you, when there are clearly hundreds of machines you can play and it's an empty casino

People who abuse the service animal tags

Broken buttons

LOUD MUSIC (THE D!!!). I don't discriminate, all forms of loud music. Mostly country though.

Long distance parking to casino (PLANET HOLLYWOOD, CAESERS)

Any game where people have no clue what is going on and can affect the speed of the game. Craps, Pai Gow, blackjack, etc.

Restaurants that make you eat in to get food to go

Woo-hooers. Unless you won $10k+ it's not a big deal.

Getting snapped off on a progressive

Sportsbooks that do not have a Wendy's style line
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January 30th, 2017 at 8:10:23 AM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill



Dealers that ask you what your name is.
.



I hate that. My response is, I'm sorry officer,
how fast was I going. Or, If I don't tell you
do I have to leave?

I find it offensive, like I'm talking a cop or
something. It's none of your damn business
what my name is. And if somebody does
say their name, the dealer never calls them
by it. What was their point of asking.
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January 30th, 2017 at 8:23:39 AM permalink
When idiots in the sports book (in line) ask who I got this weekend, as if I have any idea the team names.....like bruh, it's 22, 37, 46, 49, 52, and 57 are good bets. Idk what teams they are tho.


Sit down restaurants where you pay at a cashier at the front. Come on, this ain't Mexico!


When employees don't believe a young whipper snapper like myself can be 7* or whatever their property's top tier card is.


When you get paid with coins when you hit a handpay. Just found up to the next $1, ya damn ***s!


When someone is clearly smoking at a machine or table game.....and someone else sits down right next to them & asks for them not to smoke or whatever. (When there are many other games that are the same in the casino.) These tend to be the people that'll sit on the only other 100-play and play 1 line 1 credit min denom very slowly.


When people don't believe Kitty Glitter is +EV straight up.


When playing VP, person next to me says "wow look at that!" every time they end with 4 to a RF on 10 play. Like dude, I don't give a sh** you're annoying.


Worse, every time I end with 4 to a RF and they do the same thing. Thanks guy, I lost the hand.


When bartenders get snarky. I'm here to do my own thing. There are plenty of other people you can annoy. If I wanna talk, I'll talk. If I don't, I won't. Don't try to force me to have some stupid conversation with you about sports or where I work. For now on, I may just make something up (that's always fun, especially when I say something I know nothing about and they're all into it....I'm like oh you know, it's like any job, same ol same ol, exactly what you'd expect a <insert random profession title> to do, nothing special) then ask the bartender what he does for work.
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January 30th, 2017 at 8:36:08 AM permalink
Definitely thought of a few more... Though RS mentioned one:

1) When I'm standing in the 7Star/Diamond line and other people in the "peasant" line (as RS calls it) say "You know that's the diamond line, right???" like yeah that's why I stood in it...

2) Following #1... When the cashier says "7S/Diamond with your card out!" then doesn't check the 3 old people in front of me but demands to see my card when I get to the window.

3) When I go to check a table out, and I'm not even trying to sit down or play yet, and the dealer stops all of the people from playing the game to try to ID me for standing within 5 feet of the table. I love pulling my ID out and going "Sorry for just being alive and stopping your guys game, even though I'm over a decade over 21." This also reminds me of how some grocery stores won't sell you beer if you have your underage sibling with you. Like, okay, what if I'm a dad? If I bring my baby with me and want to buy a 6 pack, why aren't you "not allowed" to sell it to me then? Your dumb rule is if anyone with me is underage, right?

4) When the whole table is playing green chips and the rack has no green chips and the PB orders a whole $500 more in green chips and the tray could easily fit another $2000... Then he has to order $500 more in another 10 minutes.
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January 30th, 2017 at 8:38:39 AM permalink
Quote: RS


When bartenders get snarky. I'm here to do my own thing. There are plenty of other people you can annoy. If I wanna talk, I'll talk. If I don't, I won't. Don't try to force me to have some stupid conversation with you about sports or where I work. .



As someone who was in the bar biz,
I can say most men don't want to
talk, they want to be left alone.
Whoever started the myth that
bartenders are like priests, you
can tell them anything, was wrong.
We don't want to hear your problems,
we don't care. You leave us alone,
we'll leave you alone.

I had lots of conversations, but with
people I knew well. Never once had
a stranger talk to me like they do in
the movies, like we were old friends
and he could tell me anything. The
same myth exists about cab drivers,
they don't want to talk either.
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January 30th, 2017 at 8:44:13 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

As someone who was in the bar biz,
I can say most men don't want to
talk, they want to be left alone.
Whoever started the myth that
bartenders are like priests, you
can tell them anything, was wrong.
We don't want to hear your problems,
we don't care. You leave us alone,
we'll leave you alone.

I had lots of conversations, but with
people I knew well. Never once had
a stranger talk to me like they do in
the movies, like we were old friends
and he could tell me anything. The
same myth exists about cab drivers,
they don't want to talk either.



Next you're going to say barbers or hair
cutting people (idk what they called, the
people with scissors @ SuperCuts) don't
want to talk either. They just keep rambling
on and on.
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January 30th, 2017 at 8:45:28 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

As someone who was in the bar biz,
I can say most men don't want to
talk, they want to be left alone.
Whoever started the myth that
bartenders are like priests, you
can tell them anything, was wrong.
We don't want to hear your problems,
we don't care. You leave us alone,
we'll leave you alone.

I had lots of conversations, but with
people I knew well. Never once had
a stranger talk to me like they do in
the movies, like we were old friends
and he could tell me anything. The
same myth exists about cab drivers,
they don't want to talk either.



Casino bars must be an anomaly. Most
bartenders refuse to shut up and let me
watch the game or play the machine in
peace. I hate bars for this reason. Also the
comping requirements for food should be
transparent, not a guessing game. If I have
to buy in for a certain amount, let me know,
or if I have to play for x minutes or whatever.
I understand hot chicks or regulars get free
stuff, but at least put a sign or something
with a requirement for comping.

Also dealing with drunks. I hate it as a
customer, it's gotta suck worse for
bartenders.
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January 30th, 2017 at 8:50:24 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

Casino bars must be an anomaly. Most
bartenders refuse to shut up .



Bartenders who talk a lot are trolling
for tips. I'm talking mostly about
neighborhood bars, where tips are
not a big part of the equation. I don't
consider casino bartenders to be the
real thing, but of course they are. I'm
a snob that way..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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January 30th, 2017 at 9:50:28 AM permalink
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1. Buffet gluttons (ok, pigs) who put mountains of food on their plate. Why? It's a buffet. You can come back as many times as you like! What's worse? The same glutton who lets his noodles hang 6" OVER the plate, then they parade around the buffet to see if there's anything else they might have missed!


One of my peeves: coming back to my seat at a buffet, only to find the place cleared because they thought I had finished.

My guess is, the "one pass" types are a combination of (a) people burned by this, and (b) people who think you only get one pass through the buffet.
Quote: LostWages

2. FUEs or Fans, Uber-enthusiastic. We had prime seats for a Celine Dion show, only 8 rows from front stage, right of center. The show, singing, cast, and theatrics were top shelf. Our enjoyment was slightly spoiled by 5 FUEs in rows 3 and 4 who thought it was appropriate to stand up and clap after EVERY song. They ruined our otherwise super view of front stage. Worse than that? They also tried to rush the stage to steal a selfie after each song! Tks Caesar Palace security for seating them again!


This was the subject of a Saturday Night Live sketch way back when.
Did you get a response along the line of either:
"Celine / Britney / Bette / Cher / (whoever) is everything! If you were a real fan, you'd understand!"
"If you wanted a better view that badly, then you should have paid for closer seats!"

Mine:

Having to search for the exit that's nearest to where you parked your car. (Yes, I actually had a car in Vegas once. That won't be happening again any time soon.)

Not having anything to drink at the tables/machines as I'm not about to pay $1 (as a tip) for a glass of soda, although I understand why they don't have self-service machines.

The aforementioned players at my blackjack table who think they know basic strategy better than I do.

Trying to find a decent game of anything at a casino where I have a points-earning credit card (i.e. MLife and CET).

Speaking of CET: credit cards without balance-based autopay.
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January 30th, 2017 at 11:44:14 AM permalink
Bob,

The first customer that you will lose will be the customer to which you've never spoken. The reason bartenders should make eye contact, and have even a brief conversation with a hello and a smile is to create a personalized experience. It creates customer loyalty, and it will yield bigger tips. A bar with no customer service won't be in business for long.
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January 30th, 2017 at 11:51:35 AM permalink
You're so funny Bob, if that's your real name. Do you know you're an odd duck? So eccentric. I'll buy a copy of your autobiography, if you're a writer.
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January 30th, 2017 at 12:11:58 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

It creates customer loyalty, and it will yield bigger tips. .



Not in a neighborhood bar. Those guys are
there to drink, all they care about is for you
to keep the booze coming. I knew bartenders
who were downright mean and they still had
a booming business. I didn't even have a blender,
or draft beer. Too much hassle. The hard core
drinkers want hard booze and Budweiser long
necks and that's all we had.
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January 30th, 2017 at 12:23:26 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Not in a neighborhood bar. Those guys are
there to drink, all they care about is for you
to keep the booze coming. I knew bartenders
who were downright mean and they still had
a booming business. I didn't even have a blender,
or draft beer. Too much hassle. The hard core
drinkers want hard booze and Budweiser long
necks and that's all we had.



No "flair"? hehe

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January 30th, 2017 at 12:58:07 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Not in a neighborhood bar. Those guys are
there to drink, all they care about is for you
to keep the booze coming. I knew bartenders
who were downright mean and they still had
a booming business. I didn't even have a blender,
or draft beer. Too much hassle. The hard core
drinkers want hard booze and Budweiser long
necks and that's all we had.

I think things have changed a bit since you were a bartender.

It's probably hard to find the scene you are talking about nowadays.

The successful local bars in Vegas seem to have mostly good looking 20 something female bartenders.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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January 30th, 2017 at 12:58:55 PM permalink
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No "flair"?

And that's fine Bob... If you're okay with just doing the bare minimum... but we'd like you to express yourself. You do want to express yourself, don't you?

Good...Good...That's all we ask =).
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January 30th, 2017 at 12:58:55 PM permalink
Accidentally double clicked and apparently that submits the post twice! As Rick Perry once said: "Oops..."
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January 30th, 2017 at 2:35:38 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I think things have changed a bit since you were a bartender.



Nope. Go to neighborhood bars in the Polish
part of a big city, or a Lithuanian bar, and you'll
find old unfriendly bartenders. In the bar I had
in Santa Barbara, the old Greek who owned
it for 40 years before me, was famous for being
an SOB. Customers respected him, but nobody
liked him. Part of the job is cutting people off,
refusing service, and forcibly ejecting drunks.
You want respect, not for them to think you're
a great guy.
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January 30th, 2017 at 4:26:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Nope. Go to neighborhood bars in the Polish
part of a big city, or a Lithuanian bar, and you'll
find old unfriendly bartenders. In the bar I had
in Santa Barbara, the old Greek who owned
it for 40 years before me, was famous for being
an SOB. Customers respected him, but nobody
liked him. Part of the job is cutting people off,
refusing service, and forcibly ejecting drunks.
You want respect, not for them to think you're
a great guy.

There are exceptions to just about everything. Most people are not going to neighborhood bars in the Polish parts of a big cities, or to Lithuanian bars.

Most people don't want to hang out in the old time gritty bars with the barflys like this.... http://www.highlandernews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/627-e1359613619821.jpg

People want this....
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t0HNxKLfVwY/U0_sap0Y9cI/AAAAAAAAEVk/2vh6FULjmO4/s1600/sexy-female-bartender.jpg

I dont know how anyone could argue that for the most part bars have changed over the last(how long has it been since you were bartender/owner?)

Perhaps Boz can weigh in on this.

Just for you.
We can both agree anything would be better than this.... http://www.the-broad-side.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/tumblr_inline_nvp0g5FqHW1t6ym0o_1280.jpg
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January 30th, 2017 at 5:03:05 PM permalink
Someone call? I can only speak for my bar which I pride myself on as a place where everyone is welcome and we get customers from all walks of life. I get families, construction workers, young hipsters and everything in between because we offer something for every drinker. We still sell Bud and shots but craft beer is what carries the business today along with food.

All of that said, my goal is that we are 100% customer service oriented and that means finding the balance for every customer. It is a skill for my mostly female staff to determine the level of service each customer wants and needs to get the best possible experience. For the day drinkers that are mostly men, they love the attention of the bartenders who get to know many of them. It's usually just small talk about their lives and the world. But they also see people who like Bob said just want to be left alone. But they are a very small minority at my place and it's easy to tell from a brief interaction with them.

At night it's couples, families or groups who have their own discussions going on and our job is to again determine the right amount of interaction to keep them in food and drinks while also help suggest new craft beers or other drinks they may enjoy based on questions they have. The good bartenders walk this line of service and know they have done their job when they count their tips. The customer who feels at the end of their visit they got exactly what they wanted in terms of service will take care of the bartender.

While my place is probably not the place for a person just looking to be left alone and get drunk, I do know there are places like Bob speaks of out still out there in the market. My place is usually too busy, loud and pricey for them and honestly I really don't want hard core power drinkers. Most of my customers eat while visiting while the guy looking to just get drunk usually doesn't.
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January 30th, 2017 at 5:28:05 PM permalink
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Most people are not going to neighborhood bars in the Polish parts of a big cities, or to Lithuanian bars.



People who like neighborhood bars do. Those
places do a boom business. Low overhead
and high profits. The ability to thrive in any
economy. Archie Bunker ran a neighborhood
bar for awhile, remember that?

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January 30th, 2017 at 5:30:20 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Nope. Go to neighborhood bars in the Polish
part of a big city, or a Lithuanian bar, and you'll
find old unfriendly bartenders.


This is gold.
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January 30th, 2017 at 6:14:34 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

People who like neighborhood bars do. Those
places do a boom business. Low overhead
and high profits. The ability to thrive in any
economy. Archie Bunker ran a neighborhood
bar for awhile, remember that?

Kinda, but I was not even born when that show came out. I was probably still watching the Smurfs and He-Man when it ended.

I know my Dad was a big Archie Bunker fan, so I seen a few reruns. I couldn't stand Sally Struthers or the Moms whiny high pitched voices.

Actually, I think he liked anything Carroll O'Connor was in.
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January 30th, 2017 at 6:58:34 PM permalink
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Go to neighborhood bars in the Polish part of a big city, or a Lithuanian bar, and you'll find old unfriendly bartenders.

No. You will find undercover patrons from that Spike TV show that buys up old bars and flips them to keep up with the changing times and changing neighborhoods.
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January 30th, 2017 at 7:11:30 PM permalink
Anyway, back to casinos:

A dealer asking someone his name. Hey, the guy makes minimum wage, stands on his feet all day and gets told what to do all day long. Management tells him to ask peoples names so he asks peoples names. He don't got no choice in the matter.

Occupation? Remember that movie..Croupier? He told people he was a funeral undertaker or he told them he was an international arms dealer in Shanghai. I recall telling two Irish bikers in a bar on the Space Coast that I was a retired hit man. It was a shot and beer bar and I had expected it to be a bit more "Irish" than it was... you know, IRA songs, etc. At least my new-found Irish friends had not only a sense of humor but common sense too: they didn't drink at the Hilton prices, they just staggered across four lanes of traffic to sleep it off there.
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February 11th, 2017 at 6:24:07 PM permalink
Casino employees not coming for a long time after the service button is pressed is a huge peeve of mine. I have had the dreaded,"Machine is out of paper, call attendant," "Bill collector is jammed, call attendant," etc and they take a very long time to come. I have to get up and flag an attendant myself for them to come fix the machine. So annoying!
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Why even bother - just leave the 13 cent voucher you found in there and move on
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February 11th, 2017 at 6:54:34 PM permalink
When you hit a jackpot and have to scour the darn casino for a slot attendant. Not the slot attendants' fault (I hope). Dang casino just doesn't automatically alert slot attendants a JP has been hit.


1) When an ATM gives you your last $100 in all 20's then 2) you go to cage to change it to real money and the cashier looks at you like you're crazy.



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February 12th, 2017 at 5:56:15 AM permalink
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When an ATM gives you your last $100 in all 20's then you go to cage to change it to real money and the cashier looks at you like you're crazy.

A 20 dollar bill IS real money!
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February 12th, 2017 at 1:41:14 PM permalink
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A 20 dollar bill IS real money!



For peasants maybe. Until the fed starts printing real usable bills ($500 and above) we have to use $100's. It's quite a headache having to load money into a machine with $100 I tell ya hwat
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February 12th, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM permalink
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For peasants maybe.

Yeah, its like that BBC reporter who struck up an elevator conversation with some well-dressed eye-candy in Vegas who said she was "down twenty". The BBC reporter, who himself had just lost twenty dollars, soon realized she meant $20,000.

I hope to make it to the peasant level sometime before I kick off.
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February 12th, 2017 at 2:36:35 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Casino employees not coming for a long time after the service button is pressed is a huge peeve of mine. I have had the dreaded,"Machine is out of paper, call attendant," "Bill collector is jammed, call attendant," etc and they take a very long time to come. I have to get up and flag an attendant myself for them to come fix the machine. So annoying!

I just leaned how to fix my own machines. You get your slot keys online, and you can always find a stack of slot paper some floorperson has left behind.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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