LostWages
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November 9th, 2016 at 2:06:17 PM permalink
I recently experienced one BJ pet peeve, one buffet pet peeve, and one show pet peeve:

Las Vegas Pet Peeves

1. Buffet gluttons (ok, pigs) who put mountains of food on their plate. Why? It's a buffet. You can come back as many times as you like! What's worse? The same glutton who lets his noodles hang 6" OVER the plate, then they parade around the buffet to see if there's anything else they might have missed!
2. FUEs or Fans, Uber-enthusiastic. We had prime seats for a Celine Dion show, only 8 rows from front stage, right of center. The show, singing, cast, and theatrics were top shelf. Our enjoyment was slightly spoiled by 5 FUEs in rows 3 and 4 who thought it was appropriate to stand up and clap after EVERY song. They ruined our otherwise super view of front stage. Worse than that? They also tried to rush the stage to steal a selfie after each song! Tks Caesar Palace security for seating them again!
3. Nasty black jack seat mates (at The Cal). I was really afraid of what might happen on my first sit-down at a real live blackjack table! On my 2nd bankroll session (20 min), I had a real nasty commenter seated on my right. As I am assertive-challenged, I opted for the deaf ear approach, especially as I continued to win despite his hackling me continuously. Before my trip to Las Vegas, I scoured the forums for solutions and suggestions for "how to leave the table". This was my list, but I don't know how I came up with my solution to pretend I was deaf and hard of hearing. I think I froze.

a.) When you hit a predetermined loss limit based on your own risk tolerance. [I did use this when I cashed out $65 ahead of my $100 buy-in]
b.) You are tired and start making sloppy mistakes.
c.) The game no longer becomes fun.
d.) When the players / dealers stink literally or figuratively
e.) You need a bathroom break (the dealer can save your seat, 10 min only). The dealer places a disc called a "lammer" on your betting circle.
f.) You're hungry/bored/distracted.
g.) You're counting and the RC is very negative (no high cards left in the deck). [This one didn't apply to me, as I don't know how to count - yet

LW
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November 9th, 2016 at 5:23:22 PM permalink
"I'm terribly sorry, but I do not speak a word of English".

Gets them every time.
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November 9th, 2016 at 6:19:09 PM permalink
Boors and bullies will continue to needle you if they sense your discomfort. Developing a thick skin is the best defense rather than retaliation, unless you can dish the dirt back without going overboard. (My advice, others may think any retaliation is a bad idea.)
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November 9th, 2016 at 9:22:55 PM permalink
I say, "my money, my decision" and "an unseen card is an unseen card" as appropriate or necessary. Otherwise ignore them.
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November 9th, 2016 at 9:42:36 PM permalink
There are other players at the table?
Carry a cheap cigar for the rare obnoxious a hole.
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November 10th, 2016 at 6:47:57 AM permalink
Simply say, "if I lose are you going to give me my money back?"... "How comes you're down if you're so good?" ...."I'll bet you $10 you can't tell me what the next card is."
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November 10th, 2016 at 6:52:48 AM permalink
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November 10th, 2016 at 8:29:09 AM permalink
Quote: LostWages

Las Vegas Pet Peeves

1. Buffet gluttons (ok, pigs) who put mountains of food on their plate. Why? It's a buffet. You can come back as many times as you like! What's worse? The same glutton who lets his noodles hang 6" OVER the plate, then they parade around the buffet to see if there's anything else they might have missed!

2. FUEs or Fans, Uber-enthusiastic. We had prime seats for a Celine Dion show, only 8 rows from front stage, right of center. The show, singing, cast, and theatrics were top shelf. Our enjoyment was slightly spoiled by 5 FUEs in rows 3 and 4 who thought it was appropriate to stand up and clap after EVERY song. They ruined our otherwise super view of front stage. Worse than that? They also tried to rush the stage to steal a selfie after each song! Tks Caesar Palace security for seating them again!

3. Nasty black jack seat mates (at The Cal). I was really afraid of what might happen on my first sit-down at a real live blackjack table! On my 2nd bankroll session (20 min), I had a real nasty commenter seated on my right. As I am assertive-challenged, I opted for the deaf ear approach, especially as I continued to win despite his hackling me continuously.


1 - I have a feeling some people don't realize that you get multiple trips, or that you can use more than one plate. Also, some may feel that if they leave an empty plate, the servers will think that they have left the buffet and seat someone else (I have had this happen). Apparently, not everyone is familiar with the "cross your knife and fork on the plate when you are leaving" protocol.

2 - You got off lucky. A lot of shows have fans that stand up during every song, and will respond to requests to sit down with one or both of "then you should have paid for closer seats" and "we're TRUE fans, and not some wannabe like you."

3 - Wasn't there a post about a man (Chinese, I think) who stands behind players yelling out some version of basic strategy, and then when the player leaves the table ahead, demands a cut? Also, at my first live blackjack game, I was in the last spot before the dealer (I can never remember if this is "first base" since that's what it would be on a baseball diamond from the dealer's point of view, or "third base" since it's the last player before "home plate"), and, since it was a 5-deck game, hit a 16 against a dealer's 10. I got a 2, and IIRC the dealer ended up with 18, but the player next to me, who had 17, said (behind my back) to someone else that he lost because I took a card I shouldn't have.
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November 10th, 2016 at 10:59:08 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

"I'm terribly sorry, but I do not speak a word of English".

Gets them every time.



I love it - I've added it to my list for future reference!
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November 10th, 2016 at 11:02:28 AM permalink
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

Boors and bullies will continue to needle you if they sense your discomfort. Developing a thick skin is the best defense rather than retaliation, unless you can dish the dirt back without going overboard. (My advice, others may think any retaliation is a bad idea.)



Yeah, the Asian part of me should be good developing a thick skin. Now to find a way to do this without gaining weight! :-)

LW
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November 10th, 2016 at 11:05:25 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

1 - I have a feeling some people don't realize that you get multiple trips, or that you can use more than one plate. Also, some may feel that if they leave an empty plate, the servers will think that they have left the buffet and seat someone else (I have had this happen). Apparently, not everyone is familiar with the "cross your knife and fork on the plate when you are leaving" protocol.

2 - You got off lucky. A lot of shows have fans that stand up during every song, and will respond to requests to sit down with one or both of "then you should have paid for closer seats" and "we're TRUE fans, and not some wannabe like you."

3 - Wasn't there a post about a man (Chinese, I think) who stands behind players yelling out some version of basic strategy, and then when the player leaves the table ahead, demands a cut? Also, at my first live blackjack game, I was in the last spot before the dealer (I can never remember if this is "first base" since that's what it would be on a baseball diamond from the dealer's point of view, or "third base" since it's the last player before "home plate"), and, since it was a 5-deck game, hit a 16 against a dealer's 10. I got a 2, and IIRC the dealer ended up with 18, but the player next to me, who had 17, said (behind my back) to someone else that he lost because I took a card I shouldn't have.



TDG - Thanks for sharing your experiences/thoughts . . . It's only been a month since we left Las Vegas, but your stories make it seem like yesterday! LW
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November 11th, 2016 at 5:44:37 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

1 - I have a feeling some people don't realize that you get multiple trips, or that you can use more than one plate. Also, some may feel that if they leave an empty plate, the servers will think that they have left the buffet and seat someone else (I have had this happen). Apparently, not everyone is familiar with the "cross your knife and fork on the plate when you are leaving" protocol.



I've always heard that crossing your knife and fork on the plate indicates you are not done and do not want your plate to be taken.
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November 11th, 2016 at 5:55:55 AM permalink
Quote: wudged

I've always heard that crossing your knife and fork on the plate indicates you are not done and do not want your plate to be taken.

Same here in the UK. Knife and fork left in parallel to each other down the centre of the plate indicates that eating has finished.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_utensil_etiquette

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Resting and Finished positions
Setting the knife and fork in a crossed position with the fork turned upward on the plate is used to indicate to the server or host that the diner has not yet finished with the meal, while placing them together, or crossed with the fork turned downwards, with the handles at the 5 o'clock position is used to indicate that the diner has finished.



Well, who'd have thought that there would be diversity in cutlery language $:o)
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November 11th, 2016 at 9:25:39 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Same here in the UK. Knife and fork left in parallel to each other down the centre of the plate indicates that eating has finished.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_utensil_etiquette



Well, who'd have thought that there would be diversity in cutlery language $:o)



😉 Hello, OD! Now, that's what you call international and multi-cultural variance! FWIW, when we "buffet", we usually just take small portions of maybe 3 or 4 things. When we're done, we leave our plates and silverware on the side, take a drink or a break, then go back for fresh silverware, new plates and new tastes!
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November 11th, 2016 at 9:50:31 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

at my first live blackjack game, I was in the last spot before the dealer (I can never remember if this is "first base" since that's what it would be on a baseball diamond from the dealer's point of view, or "third base" since it's the last player before "home plate").

Yeah, it is often strange too if the cards are pitched... dealt by hand or not.

The rule as I understand it is that FIRST BASE is FIRST PLAYER to get a card and THIRD BASE is LAST PLAYER to get a card no mater how many players are in between or how many player spots are in between.

Its difficult in Craps where Dealers are technically known as Base Dealers, the game is known as Bank Craps and the Boxman is a Boxman even if he is female and is merely one of the dealers rotating in as box. At least in craps a Stickman is addressed as "Stick" even if just a few minutes ago you were addressing him by the name on his name tag. His name is used only when he is a Base Dealer and is never used when he is the Stickman.

Gamblers are weird. People who work in casinos can be even more weird.
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