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January 30th, 2017 at 10:22:51 AM permalink
There are folks on the board who run charity fundraisers that use casino quality equipment, or work for party companies that set up "casino nights". I wonder if they might be interested?
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January 30th, 2017 at 12:34:52 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

With all the money DI's are making you think they would jump at the chance to buy a table to put in their mansions.



Been out for awhile but somehow managed to read this thread and AxelWolf you never cease to entertain. I almost spit out my drink reading this.
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January 31st, 2017 at 12:13:43 PM permalink
I listed on craigslist and put some photos with dimensions.

Thanks again for the interest. It is a nice table I think, but it is big!

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/fuo/5983820452.html
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January 31st, 2017 at 7:35:29 PM permalink
Maybe the gamblers general store would buy it. eBay is probably the best bet though. You'd be amazed, someone from Arizona would probably drive up to get it, if listed on there.
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February 1st, 2017 at 8:13:21 AM permalink
I rolled them bones with Aaron on his table. It is perfect if you want a craps table. Maybe I missed it, but what would it cost to buy an equivalent table new and have it shipped to your house and set up?
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February 2nd, 2017 at 8:01:44 PM permalink
Reducing the price to $1,800 lock box not included signs not included.
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February 3rd, 2017 at 1:16:01 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Reducing the price to $1,800 lock box not included signs not included.



I suspect $750 might be closer to the
right selling price, just get it over with.
The thing takes up more room than
a tournament pool table.
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February 4th, 2017 at 5:18:08 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I suspect $750 might be closer to the
right selling price, just get it over with.
The thing takes up more room than
a tournament pool table.



I'll make a youtube video of me taking a chainsaw to the table and haul the wood to Republic Services if you stop posting messages to this forum.

The table is $1,500 now if anyone wants it.
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February 4th, 2017 at 6:11:18 AM permalink
Maybe see if Dancer or Munchkin will mention it on Gwae show.
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February 4th, 2017 at 9:56:58 AM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Maybe see if Dancer or Munchkin will mention it on Gwae show.



That's funny. Not sure if you were serious, but no I don't think it would work. You'd have a better chance listing it on a radio show about tiny houses.
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February 4th, 2017 at 11:48:07 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

That's funny. Not sure if you were serious, but no I don't think it would work. You'd have a better chance listing it on a radio show about tiny houses.


No I was serious. The show is listened to by gamblers
So I thought maybe someone in Vegas might want it.
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February 4th, 2017 at 12:17:00 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

No I was serious. The show is listened to by gamblers
So I thought maybe someone in Vegas might want it.



Yeah, so far, in general, NOBODY is even SLIGHTLY interested in this table. I don't think GWAE even touches classifieds. If they mentioned it, I'd assume it would be to ridicule anyone thinking there were utility to ownership.

But that's just how I see things. Munchkin and Dancer I've never heard them say much positive about gambling WITHOUT an edge. It's just a polarization of the shoe in my view. So that's why I say it's a far fetch. But you could be right and I do appreciate the comment given you were serious.
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February 4th, 2017 at 12:17:57 PM permalink
$1,250 is the price now. We may get to $750 soon enough!
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February 4th, 2017 at 12:18:55 PM permalink
It seems like you are now willing to sell it for a fraction of what you think it is really worth. If you think you can have it 'appraised' at a value of say, $6,000, isn't it better to donate it to a charity and take that donation than get the $1000 cash you are quickly approaching?
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February 4th, 2017 at 12:30:51 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

I'll make a youtube video of me taking a chainsaw to the table and haul the wood to Republic Services if you stop posting messages to this forum.



Send me $1000 and I'll stop posting for
a year. You will still have the table to get
part of the $1000 back on. Although it
would be entertaining to splice you
chainsawing the table onto the end of
some of your craps instruction videos.
It's the logical and inevitable ending
to all dice control instruction.
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February 4th, 2017 at 12:38:54 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

It seems like you are now willing to sell it for a fraction of what you think it is really worth. If you think you can have it 'appraised' at a value of say, $6,000, isn't it better to donate it to a charity and take that donation than get the $1000 cash you are quickly approaching?



The answer depends on the person's income and tax situation.

That would be of little or no value to someone who cannot itemize deductions, for example.
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February 4th, 2017 at 1:53:12 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

$1,250 is the price now. We may get to $750 soon enough!



Hurting for money?
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February 4th, 2017 at 2:00:22 PM permalink
How about posting on other sites, those dedicated to dice such as http://www.axispowercraps.com, crapsforum.com or procraps4u2?
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February 4th, 2017 at 2:28:27 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

$1,250 is the price now. We may get to $750 soon enough!



You may find nobody wants it at any price.
Saw that in the antiques biz. Big stuff that
takes up a lot of room in the home is
sometimes stuff you can't even give away.
Like pool tables of antique organs. They
have no practical use.
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February 4th, 2017 at 2:55:33 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

$1,250 is the price now. We may get to $750 soon enough!



I live a couple thousand miles away, or I'd jump on that.
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February 4th, 2017 at 3:02:20 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I live a couple thousand miles away, or I'd jump on that.



I.was about to say exactly that. I'd love to have it, but shipping here would be insanely expensive.

You know who you should email? The Seminole Indians aka Hard Rock in Florida (3 locations) They don't yet have their craps tables, but it's about to be legal here. I bet they'd buy it ..it's professional grade, right?

Not kidding. They love a deal.
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February 4th, 2017 at 4:13:57 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

It seems like you are now willing to sell it for a fraction of what you think it is really worth. If you think you can have it 'appraised' at a value of say, $6,000, isn't it better to donate it to a charity and take that donation than get the $1000 cash you are quickly approaching?



No disrespect but I am not sure any charity would even want it.

If I were in Aaron's shoes, I'd be cold calling dealer schools and casinos like Jerry's Nugget.
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February 4th, 2017 at 4:46:05 PM permalink
Or contact the guy who made it and sold it to you, and see if he wants to buy it back and resell it.
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February 4th, 2017 at 4:51:05 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Or contact the guy who made it and sold it to you, and see if he wants to buy it back and resell it.



Or drag it out by the road and put a 'free
craps table' sign on it. I got a $2000 couch
that way in the 70's. Was in the right place
at the right time.
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February 4th, 2017 at 5:28:13 PM permalink
I'm not sure about Las Vegas, but I believe most Tribal Casino have to purchase equipment from licensed vendors. You cant just buy gaming tables or supplies from Craigslist or some unknown dude.


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February 4th, 2017 at 5:39:02 PM permalink
While I feel sort of bad for Aaron having to eat this investment, I also am encouraged that there is little market in sin city for an in-home craps table.

The lack of interest indicates to me at least that people have smartened up a bit and are no longer trying to sharpen their dice setting skills at home.

It was always a waste of time.
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February 4th, 2017 at 5:43:02 PM permalink
I would chip in 150 for a video of him chainsawing it
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February 4th, 2017 at 6:10:08 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Or drag it out by the road and put a 'free
craps table' sign on it. I got a $2000 couch
that way in the 70's. Was in the right place
at the right time.



Actually if you put Free on it, no one will take it, but if you put $2000 on it, someone will usually steal it.
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February 4th, 2017 at 7:00:54 PM permalink
I'd just keep the thing. My idea is to sell it to a porn company so they can make a porno on it. Maybe rent the room $100 an hour so hookers can give massages on it. It fits two or three comfortably I'm sure. Can I make a reservation? If you give me $1000, I'll never post here, rent your table and keep $900. I'll just walk around Vegas asking girls if they want to have sex on a real craps table. Worst case scenario I make $200, you make $100. That craps table better be a virgin.
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February 4th, 2017 at 7:01:15 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

I would chip in 150 for a video of him chainsawing it



Table is $999 now. If a third party wants to pool donations for chainsaw, I'll take $999 to chainsaw the table as well. I'll also honor the offer if EB permanently resigns too I'll chainsaw it for that. But I doubt EB could ever resign here it's his life.
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February 4th, 2017 at 7:13:40 PM permalink
You can't sell it. I have a reservation for Valentine's day.Do you comp red bull or what? If I'm paying $100, I want free red bull.
Quote: Ahigh

Table is $999 now. If a third party wants to pool donations for chainsaw, I'll take $999 to chainsaw the table as well. I'll also honor the offer if EB permanently resigns too I'll chainsaw it for that. But I doubt EB could ever resign here it's his life.

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February 4th, 2017 at 7:17:56 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

How about posting on other sites, those dedicated to dice such as http://www.axispowercraps.com, crapsforum.com or procraps4u2?



Those people can link to here if they want or search vegas Craigslist. But they can't afford to house a table the size of mine, much less ship to Texas or wherever those who claim to know more than me about DI hang out selling cars for kicks in between their million dollar wins.

Truth is that there is nobody in DI has ever had as nice a table as I. Maybe there never will be either.

This is a real full size Paulson, not a rubber wall attached to a board from Home Depot. The cost is the cost of 100 square feet of real estate. Even Galaxy Gaming can't afford a table the size of mine. Balk city!
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February 4th, 2017 at 7:20:10 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Table is $999 now. If a third party wants to pool donations for chainsaw, I'll take $999 to chainsaw the table as well. I'll also honor the offer if EB permanently resigns too I'll chainsaw it for that. But I doubt EB could ever resign here it's his life.



Ill take the EB offer. I will never post here again if you chainsaw it into 15 - 20 pieces and live stream or post to youtube.


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February 4th, 2017 at 7:23:52 PM permalink
Yeah, Feb 18th would be better for a chainsaw event.
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February 4th, 2017 at 7:25:45 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Ill take the EB offer. I will never post here again if you chainsaw it into 15 - 20 pieces and live stream or post to youtube.


ZCore13



Naw, we're good. Your invited to the event if it happens. I will take donations towards this end from folks, but I'd prefer a neutral third party collect and report tally. $1,000 total is plenty. Anyone donating $100 or more is invited. Chainsaw will be indoors.

I'll provide energy drinks and we can have a last game. The table lets 16 play!
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February 4th, 2017 at 8:35:22 PM permalink
A serious suggestion, sell it on eBay, for pick up. I think it's kind of bipolar just up and deciding to ruin your table. It can be sold, you just have to find the right buyer, which takes time. Probably a good place is at the craps tables around town to spread the word. I'd get that low price out of your head, because you've been ejected by the wrong people. Someone who buys this, has a very large house and has lots of money. Maybe a real estate broker can find someone with a gambling interest, large house, and money to burn. Pay a commission to them. Your table is worth everything you paid for it.

If you're moving out, you can take less if feeling the pressure, but it's just idiotic actually ruining that thing. It wont give you the feeling you think you'll get by the destroying that thing and it wont change you.
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February 4th, 2017 at 9:51:40 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Truth is that there is nobody in DI has ever had as nice a table as I.



I went to visit the Dice Coach years ago and he had a full blown table in his garage. Going of memory, it was about equal to yours.
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February 4th, 2017 at 10:38:07 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I went to visit the Dice Coach years ago and he had a full blown table in his garage. Going of memory, it was about equal to yours.



Do you think the chips at Golden Gate are "about equal" to those at the Wynn?

If so then I guess is a more tolerant opinion.

In my opinion, nobody's ever had a (real Paulson 14') table at home set up as nicely with Pauls chips, real buy/lay lammers, on/off and every kind of lammer, lock box with keys, custom limit sign, etc.

Every last part and piece from a real game.

Not Beau, or anyone.

Every single other setup has SOME compromise relative to mine.

As far as destroying the table I can buy another one if I want or not. It's "only money." I have my reasons and they are my own. Life is for living not taking prescriptions for common actions and anticipated results. If people want to make an event and donate, it's not just me that's paying to see the destruction, and it's very normal and not anything weird in my opinion. People like explosions in movies, for example. It's normal.

As far as the label "bipolar" I'm not sure how destroying a table is any more bipolar than shooting $1,000 worth of fireworks if that's what you want to do. I've gotten more mileage out of this table than most anyone could imagine. She's served her purpose and maybe it is time to go out with a bang!!
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February 4th, 2017 at 10:57:31 PM permalink
I just thought it was important to you, and this idea seemed rash, but maybe I shouldn't have taken it seriously. I'm remembering this thing very vaguely, but remember it being totally first class. I thought you had built it from scratch and hadn't purchased it.
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February 4th, 2017 at 11:01:20 PM permalink
How long is it again. I might buy it for the 999 and haul it to my garage here in Vegas. I just cant see myself being able not to resale it for some profit down the road.

Ok it's 14 feet right? Is it upstairs? Is it going to be a task to carry it out of your house without banging up the walls or entry ways?
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February 4th, 2017 at 11:51:10 PM permalink
if you can get your hands on a nice rocket launcher....I might be interested in pitching in some money to watch the craps table get obliterated.
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February 5th, 2017 at 12:56:42 AM permalink
Wow... I just looked at that same table inside the Casino. It's basically the same length and width of my four door sedan. I think I have to pass on buying this item. It's really daunting when I looked at the size. I think I would profit about 500 or so but it's hard to wrap my head around the labor involved... let alone waiting for another buyer.
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February 5th, 2017 at 1:17:12 AM permalink
Go to pawn stars.Maybe rick will buy it.
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February 5th, 2017 at 1:31:10 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Naw, we're good. Your invited to the event if it happens. I will take donations towards this end!



No doubt. You can't sell it so you want us
to pay you to destroy it. I'm not sure you
have thought this out completely.. Just
leave it in your house when you go,
let it be the next owners problem.
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February 5th, 2017 at 6:49:45 AM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Go to pawn stars.Maybe rick will buy it.



I've been in his shop and it isn't much bigger than the table. Somehow it looks much bigger on TV.
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February 5th, 2017 at 8:11:38 AM permalink
Damn, I'm interested. I just moved into a nice, big house and don't have the furnishings to make it look good. I'm wondering how much money and labor it is going to take to move it; I'd have to rent a Uhaul and pay people to help me move it. There's no way it would fit through my front door or even my sliding glass door; I'd have to disassemble parts of it just to fit it in my house.
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February 5th, 2017 at 9:38:17 AM permalink
It breaks into 3 pieces and fit through my front door.

Rounding corners can be tough unless you have a 15 foot ceiling.
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February 6th, 2017 at 9:49:06 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

I'm not sure about Las Vegas, but I believe most Tribal Casino have to purchase equipment from licensed vendors. You cant just buy gaming tables or supplies from Craigslist or some unknown dude.


ZCore13

I can see that with machines and roulette items, but a craps table just sits there with basically no moving parts so I don't see what legal protection that would need. The licensed vendor thing is probably there to keep illegal doctored machines from getting into casinos, or something like that.
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February 6th, 2017 at 1:16:24 PM permalink
ZCore13's statement is correct for Washington State when it comes to gaming tables...they must be manufactured by a licensed Manufacturer and sold by a licensed Distributor. It may seem odd, but those are the rules in that state.

My guess is those are the rules in AZ as well based solely on Z's experience in that state.
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February 6th, 2017 at 2:18:41 PM permalink
Quote: sammydv

I can see that with machines and roulette items, but a craps table just sits there with basically no moving parts so I don't see what legal protection that would need. The licensed vendor thing is probably there to keep illegal doctored machines from getting into casinos, or something like that.



No, it applies to everything used in the Casino. Chip trays, layouts, lammers, you name it.


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