Wizardofnothing
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July 29th, 2016 at 6:19:14 PM permalink
http://www.ktnv.com/news/strip-casinos-cutting-costs-by-limiting-comped-drinks
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July 29th, 2016 at 6:54:24 PM permalink
Funny thread title.

I always thought they regulated drinks anyway. When they want to ease up, one cocktail waitress covers twice as many people. At least that's the way it appeared sometimes.

More than once I had to put my cocktail waitress on a milk cartoon, because sometimes they just go missing and never come back.
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July 30th, 2016 at 3:01:05 AM permalink
Since Mickey, AFAIK plays mostly in Montana, why is this news? Why is this insult allowed? Oh, because you can. Haven't been on that other site lately, but you sure are getting your keister handed to you despite the foul language you use there. You should leave that site as you have promised so many times.
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onenickelmiracle
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July 30th, 2016 at 3:55:15 AM permalink
Things like this drive the least profitable people to other casinos which forces the trend. Funny because free drinks are supposed to spur revenue by investment. If they cut drinks, they will cut gaming if the theory is true. I personally don't believe in it. Around here, drinks are over priced, but people still gamble, but just don't drink. Most people would save money if they just drank and never gambled.

Seem to remember people saying drinks can cost $18 sometimes at Vegas. That would be like $20 gas to me which I would never pay just because it wasn't free.
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July 30th, 2016 at 4:28:29 AM permalink
Ain't got nuttin' to do with the PLAYERS... its the bartenders who would let someone drink and drink on ONE twenty dollar bill put into the machine and then get a nice tip to boot. All that money going to the bartender is what the casinos ended, now it goes to the machines.

Sure MBAs cost cut wherever they can... ever order an orange juice in a lower tier casino... I feel embarassed for the poor waitress who has to peddle that swill and expect to get tipped. Small glass, large ice cubes becomes smaller glass and even larger ice cubes whenever an MBA sees an opportunity. Decent gamblers vote with their feet. Eventually they always do.

Restaurants and nightclubs are making money; casinos all over the country detract from travelers to Vegas.
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July 30th, 2016 at 6:04:57 AM permalink
Demango- you really don't think I care about what anyone says there do you? Or why you feel I take the worst end of it. I can take whatever I dish out. im not going to lose any sleep over it
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July 30th, 2016 at 8:59:31 AM permalink
I don't think WoN was trying to insult Mickey. I read it as a joke. We all know that the cutting of drinks were coming anyways, just like the paid parking.
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July 30th, 2016 at 9:19:34 AM permalink
Yes It definitely was a joke- I think even Micky openly admits he drinks so I'm
Not sure how anyone even him would take it as an insult but bin was intended
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July 30th, 2016 at 10:16:30 AM permalink
I remember when I was a broke 21 year old pup, I used to put $10 in the machine and waited until the cocktail waitress came along. I'd tip her $2 for my first drink and she'd come right back with my shot of whiskey. I'd then ask her for another shot with a beer back and she'd say she's not supposed to do that but she will make an acception...give her another $2 tip. I'd ask her to keep it coming and tip her another $2 for two drinks. Next thing you know it's been an hour and you've already had 5 visits by the cocktail waitress and only spent around $10 in tip for around 10 drinks. I'd cash out my original $10 and walk out tipsy. I miss those days when simple pleasures made your day. Now I get a hard'on if i find a $10 min table that pays 3:2.
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July 30th, 2016 at 10:36:06 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Sure MBAs cost cut wherever they can... ever order an orange juice in a lower tier casino... I feel embarassed for the poor waitress who has to peddle that swill and expect to get tipped. Small glass, large ice cubes becomes smaller glass and even larger ice cubes whenever an MBA sees an opportunity. Decent gamblers vote with their feet. Eventually they always do.


I'm not a big drinker, and this is why I hate ordering soft drinks while playing. You get a tiny bottle of water, or maybe 4oz of soda a ton of ice ...then you have to tip the girl. $3 for a coke at a vending machine is cheaper at that rate.

I only order bottled beers now, you know you are getting a full drink that way.

Also I've noticed at CET properties that the machine sometimes says "error processing order" when I first sit down. After some coin in, I can miraculously order a drink.
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July 30th, 2016 at 12:22:41 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Funny thread title.

I always thought they regulated drinks anyway. When they want to ease up, one cocktail waitress covers twice as many people. At least that's the way it appeared sometimes.

More than once I had to put my cocktail waitress on a milk cartoon, because sometimes they just go missing and never come back.

But if they formalize regulation of drinks they may destroy the illusion that it's a courtesy. If players see it as a direct reward for money wagered they may begin to realize that there are cheape ways to drink.
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July 30th, 2016 at 2:07:16 PM permalink
Tie drinks to your card status and people might play more.
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July 30th, 2016 at 3:07:47 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Tie drinks to your card status and people might play more.



Actually some Caesar properties with Total Touch do. Certain drinks (bottles beer, top shelf liquor) are only available with a Diamond card or higher. I have observed this in New Orleans and AC. Perhaps it will spread. The one thing I have noticed with TT is service is much faster.
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July 30th, 2016 at 3:15:54 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Actually some Caesar properties with Total Touch do. Certain drinks (bottles beer, top shelf liquor) are only available with a Diamond card or higher. I have observed this in New Orleans and AC. Perhaps it will spread. The one thing I have noticed with TT is service is much faster.


I was just about to say this.

After I got diamond (from a promo, didn't earn it) I could order Tanqueray and Stella.
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July 30th, 2016 at 3:25:03 PM permalink
Actions like this have a domino effect if they're done right and people who spend accept them. If you push out every person looking for only free drinks, they'll flood over to the other casinos. Then what was only a minor problem spread throughout, magnifies where the honor system remains and forces the other casinos to change or lose profits. I theorize this is how resort fees became mandatory. People who it made no financial difference to remained, and generally lower value customers flocked where free was free. Eventually the casinos wondered why they had so many cheap losers and had to react to the flood.
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July 30th, 2016 at 5:34:56 PM permalink
The Total Touch and other drink ordering at the machine programs turn Tray Lizards into Drink Deliverers and Glassware Removers; rather than order takers. This means fewer waitresses because no one is both taking orders and delivering them. Cost cutting is the motivation; free loader exclusion is a bonus.

At the higher tier casinos no one is 'cheap'... water bottles are not short little swigs and are often brought around generously. Orange juice may or may not have ice in it but it won't be watered down swill with super ice cubes that could take on the RMS Titanic.

CET computers remind me of the old joke about a politician who lost a voter and said to him, but didn't I keep you off death row, give a state contract to your brother in law, and a whole litany of other good things... but the politician gets the response 'Yeah, but what have you done for me lately'. CET computers keep slicing and dicing their customers so they get a really close shave whether they want one or not.

Now monopolies are different creatures, whether its CET or Indian casinos. No one enjoys a stingy host.
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July 30th, 2016 at 6:39:36 PM permalink
wondering why a thread with this title is allowed but others have been wiped out.
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July 30th, 2016 at 8:12:13 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

The Total Touch and other drink ordering at the machine programs turn Tray Lizards into Drink Deliverers and Glassware Removers; rather than order takers. This means fewer waitresses because no one is both taking orders and delivering them. Cost cutting is the motivation; free loader exclusion is a bonus.

At the higher tier casinos no one is 'cheap'... water bottles are not short little swigs and are often brought around generously. Orange juice may or may not have ice in it but it won't be watered down swill with super ice cubes that could take on the RMS Titanic.

CET computers remind me of the old joke about a politician who lost a voter and said to him, but didn't I keep you off death row, give a state contract to your brother in law, and a whole litany of other good things... but the politician gets the response 'Yeah, but what have you done for me lately'. CET computers keep slicing and dicing their customers so they get a really close shave whether they want one or not.

Now monopolies are different creatures, whether its CET or Indian casinos. No one enjoys a stingy host.



Last time I played caesars' palace, I ordered a figi water. I got screamed at by the CW: "Only 7 stars a get figi water! ! ! " Not kidding. The whole (full) table was completely blown back by it. Was a running joke for a couple hours.

So, no, CET does not give the good stuff at diamond level. At least not at CP.
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July 30th, 2016 at 8:58:52 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Last time I played caesars' palace, I ordered a figi water. I got screamed at by the CW: "Only 7 stars a get figi water! ! ! " Not kidding. The whole (full) table was completely blown back by it. Was a running joke for a couple hours.

So, no, CET does not give the good stuff at diamond level. At least not at CP.



The common folk and peasants drink hose water. ;-)
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July 30th, 2016 at 9:03:02 PM permalink
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The common folk and peasants drink hose water. ;-)


Fiji, hose, same thing.
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