TIMSPEED
TIMSPEED
Joined: Aug 11, 2010
  • Threads: 89
  • Posts: 1246
August 19th, 2010 at 4:07:14 PM permalink
I'm just curious. I go to Reno every weekend, and play at JANugget. In getting to know some of the dealers, I've asked how much they made and they told me they gross 50k a year.
Now, I've found out they DO have health benefits, so this means they're making $7.25 an hour.
So that means they're grossing 13920 per year on wage alone.
NOW, to get to 50k, they have to make 36080 per year in TIPS.
This equates out to 3006 per MONTH, which boils down to making $150 per SHIFT in tips.
I'm there during the BUSY times (fri/sat evening), and I'd say in a SHIFT the crap table (4 dealers remember) made $150 TOTAL.
I just can't figure out how they can possibly be making $150 in tips PER PERSON PER SHIFT.
OR, tell me they're lying...?
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
Wizard
Administrator
Wizard
Joined: Oct 14, 2009
  • Threads: 1426
  • Posts: 24460
August 19th, 2010 at 4:20:08 PM permalink
I would have guessed J.A.'s Nugget was less than $150 average, but that is still in range. I addressed daily tip averages in my Mar. 3, 2009 Ask the Wizard column.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
cclub79
cclub79
Joined: Dec 16, 2009
  • Threads: 35
  • Posts: 1147
August 19th, 2010 at 4:25:02 PM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

I'm just curious. I go to Reno every weekend, and play at JANugget. In getting to know some of the dealers, I've asked how much they made and they told me they gross 50k a year.
Now, I've found out they DO have health benefits, so this means they're making $7.25 an hour.
So that means they're grossing 13920 per year on wage alone.
NOW, to get to 50k, they have to make 36080 per year in TIPS.
This equates out to 3006 per MONTH, which boils down to making $150 per SHIFT in tips.
I'm there during the BUSY times (fri/sat evening), and I'd say in a SHIFT the crap table (4 dealers remember) made $150 TOTAL.
I just can't figure out how they can possibly be making $150 in tips PER PERSON PER SHIFT.
OR, tell me they're lying...?



Craps tables are probably tougher because you have 4 dealers, but blackjack tables only have one, and 150+ (to make up for the craps) seems reasonable. Also, I assume you are playing at a more low limit craps table? Even a couple of big tippers a shift on a higher limit table can make a difference.
FleaStiff
FleaStiff
Joined: Oct 19, 2009
  • Threads: 265
  • Posts: 14484
August 19th, 2010 at 4:41:47 PM permalink
Every now and then there seem to be tip compilations but I'm told that one major source of such data also runs a school and a temp-service for dealers and is therefore suspected of being a bit on the high side.
Certainly such tip income fluctuates and depends on shift, hours-worked, etc.
weaselman
weaselman
Joined: Jul 11, 2010
  • Threads: 20
  • Posts: 2349
August 19th, 2010 at 5:07:49 PM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED


Now, I've found out they DO have health benefits, so this means they're making $7.25 an hour.


I can't see the connection. Why does having health benefits mean minimum wage?
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
AZDuffman
AZDuffman
Joined: Nov 2, 2009
  • Threads: 231
  • Posts: 12756
August 19th, 2010 at 5:24:07 PM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

I'm just curious. I go to Reno every weekend, and play at JANugget. In getting to know some of the dealers, I've asked how much they made and they told me they gross 50k a year.
Now, I've found out they DO have health benefits, so this means they're making $7.25 an hour.
So that means they're grossing 13920 per year on wage alone.
NOW, to get to 50k, they have to make 36080 per year in TIPS.
This equates out to 3006 per MONTH, which boils down to making $150 per SHIFT in tips.
I'm there during the BUSY times (fri/sat evening), and I'd say in a SHIFT the crap table (4 dealers remember) made $150 TOTAL.
I just can't figure out how they can possibly be making $150 in tips PER PERSON PER SHIFT.
OR, tell me they're lying...?



When I was accepted to dealer school at Rivers in Pittsburgh they said they were going to target a toke rate of $20/hr. So farf my sources say they are closer to $15 but climbing and touching $20 on weekends. Add in $4.50 in base and you are at near $50K/yr.

Break it down, $20/hr is one $5 tip every 15 mins. Seven players at a full table with some turnover, it is easily doable.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
TIMSPEED
TIMSPEED
Joined: Aug 11, 2010
  • Threads: 89
  • Posts: 1246
August 19th, 2010 at 5:30:26 PM permalink
You guys could be right. However, I've sat and watched on a saturday night, swing shift (5pm-1am), and kept a close eye on the tokes being "dropped" and I can almost say it wasn't more than $300...and there's only 1 crap table open on the weekends (SOMETIMES 2 tables, if it's a big event; both $5)
I guess the tips on BJ and Pai-Gow just make up for it...
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
cclub79
cclub79
Joined: Dec 16, 2009
  • Threads: 35
  • Posts: 1147
August 19th, 2010 at 5:32:46 PM permalink
Quote: weaselman

I can't see the connection. Why does having health benefits mean minimum wage?



Nevada has two min wages - one if they provide health benefits, one if they don't.
weaselman
weaselman
Joined: Jul 11, 2010
  • Threads: 20
  • Posts: 2349
August 19th, 2010 at 7:18:54 PM permalink
Quote: cclub79

Nevada has two min wages - one if they provide health benefits, one if they don't.



I see ... But why can't they still be making more than the minimum wage?
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
appistappis
appistappis
Joined: Mar 27, 2010
  • Threads: 1
  • Posts: 105
August 19th, 2010 at 8:03:05 PM permalink
where I work we average about $960 a week.

  • Jump to: