Roulette strategies survey
Who isn't? I would be willing to bet I'm up more than Bob on roulette with an actual advantage.Quote: RSWhich bets are good to select?
Like you, I'm also a lifetime net winner at roulette. Probably not as much as you, though. You must have more experience than I do, as I've played very little.
I like betting on black (I know, goes against my morals), 20, and 2/3 split.
Are these good or bad bets.
Btw, I'm not lying. I am actually a net winner at roulette.
Quote: EvenBobI know Ken, I've met him in Milwaukee. I've
seen him do it. He has gonads of steel. He's
been posting on various forums for 10
years. He's as valid as the sun rising in the
morning. Like I've said, if you have a decent
bet selection, a good progression will take
you a long way.
He doesn't care who believes him or not, why
should he. He just loves to win at roulette.
Maybe as valid as the sun rising in the arctic in December
Quote: AxelWolfIf you knew the layout you would of realized he excluded everything.
That's nothing new, some smart guy is always
coming up with a system that leaves nothing
to bet on. Apparently this is all new to you.
Quote: AxelWolfWho isn't? I would be willing to bet I'm up more than Bob on roulette with an actual advantage.
You seem obsessed with what I do. Why is that.
Quote: GWAEMaybe as valid as the sun rising in the arctic in December
I was a mortal enemy of J's when he
first started posting 10 years ago.
I thought he was full of it. But as
time went on, he never varied from
his claims. When I finally saw his
progression in action, I knew he
was for real. The last time I heard it
had 35 steps before it ran out of
money.
All I need is 80 people.
10 will believe me and buy into all my nonsense.
The other 70 will say "Just another phony."
And just like that, I've convinced people I can predict 3 coin tosses in a row, and will have people backing me up.
With roulette, craps, VP, and other volatile games -- it's very easy to convince someone you have a winning "method", because you can play in such a way that you are almost guaranteed to show a profit at one point during a session [even if the overall play is -EV....and ever so rarely you get wiped out].
Quote: IbeatyouracesYep, something works one time in front of an audience and they get convinced. That con has been around for ages.
It was more than once. This reminds me
of explaining something to my 2 year old
grandson. I quickly realize he's never going
to grasp what I'm saying this year and I quit trying.
Quote: EvenBobIt was more than once. This reminds me
of explaining something to my 2 year old
grandson. I quickly realize he's never going
to grasp what I'm saying this year and I quit trying.
RS I think this is another example for your to add to that other thread.
Quote: EvenBobIt was more than once. This reminds me
of explaining something to my 2 year old
grandson. I quickly realize he's never going
to grasp what I'm saying this year and I quit trying.
Even 100 times would not prove squat. It's funny how he comes up with a new "method" ever couple of weeks. Maybe, no wait, most likely because the previous ones fail. No one person is continually cleaning up at an Indian casino. He would've been kicked out long ago. Trust me on that.
Quote: IbeatyouracesNo one person is continually cleaning up at an Indian casino. He would've been kicked out long ago. Trust me on that.
He loses a lot sometimes, they put up with
him. I was incredulous too, but they all
know him very well, and are on a
first name basis with him. He doesn't
change systems, it's always the same
core idea.
Quote: EvenBobHe loses a lot sometimes, they put up with
him. I was incredulous too, but they all
know him very well, and are on a
first name basis with him. He doesn't
change systems, it's always the same
core idea.
So in other words, he DOES change systems, but uses the same "core idea", with some tweaks here and there.
As a (primarily craps) dealer, I've seen a lot. People would martingale the field. After a few failed sessions (and plenty of winners in between), they switched it to a 1-1-2-4-8...martingale. IF they were ahead at that point, they wouldn't have switched. So after the 1-1-2-4-8-..etc. failed, they went to 5/6/8/9 place bet martingaling. After that failed, off to the field/5/6/8 martingale. Then to the 6/8 only. Then after that, line-bet martingale (don't-pass), with no odds.
Systems don't work. They can't work.
Quote: RS
Systems don't work. They can't work.
Sigh. It's NOT NOT NOT the system!
Of course all systems lose eventually.
But some are better than others, some
let you play longer. Couple that with
a killer kamikaze progression, and you
can last for years. The day will come
when you hit the brick wall, but it
might not come in your lifetime.
Especially if you switch your bet selection
around.
He often has to put $3000 out there to
win $300. The casino sees this and likes
it, because they know the brick wall
is coming. They want it to come in their
casino.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: RS
Systems don't work. They can't work.
Sigh. It's NOT NOT NOT the system!
Of course all systems lose eventually.
But some are better than others, some
let you play longer. Couple that with
a killer kamikaze progression, and you
can last for years. The day will come
when you hit the brick wall, but it
might not come in your lifetime.
Especially if you switch your bet selection
around.
He often has to put $3000 out there to
win $300. The casino sees this and likes
it, because they know the brick wall
is coming. They want it to come in their
casino.
So as long as you don't play too often, you won't lose during your life time.
Quote: RSSo as long as you don't play too often, you won't lose during your life time.
I play exclusively by Mike C's system, and I can honestly say, I've never ever lost a bet on Roulette.
nothing to do with it. When dealing
with random outcomes, playing a
little or a lot makes no difference.
It's the probability he's messing
with because he has such a long
progression. It postpones the
inevitable. He has to have a very
very bad session to lose a
progression bank.
Does that rule apply to everyone?
;-)
Quote: TwoFeathersATLIsn't there some sort-of rule against advocating betting systems here?
Does that rule apply to everyone?
;-)
No. So, no.
Quote: EvenBob...
But some are better than others, some
let you play longer. Couple that with
a killer kamikaze progression, and you
can last for years. The day will come
when you hit the brick wall, but it
might not come in your lifetime.
GROAN.
Bob, Acknowlege that the further away in to the future you push 'Hitting the wall day' then the further into the future you push 'Substantially increasing your bankroll' day.
If you or your buddy is making a substantial profit as a multiplier of his point in time bankroll, then you/he have smashed the mathematics of the game.
If you haven't, and I assert that you haven't, then you just had a bit of luck which can leave you as quickly as it arrived.
