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ohiovegasguy
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December 21st, 2014 at 7:59:25 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

FYI some casinos allow for greenies to opt out of snail mail and all offers are sent via email or login. Hopefully your company will adapt to that.



AxelWolf,

Tropicana accepts emailed offers. This is part of the verification process. Otherwise "Tom" would be submitting "Bob's" $500 offer. One note also we batch match offer requests every Monday and send to Tropicana. If you are requesting during the week it will be forwarded the following Monday to Tropicana.
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:00:16 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

What does "verified" mean? Does it mean you must provide Trop with your players ID number and they will contact the issuing casino?

Not sure if any offer I get has my address on it except for maybe the envelope it comes in.


Boz: I have the Emerald Vegas Rover Card (purchased during the RocketHub campaign before any deals were acquired). I utilized the Tropicana Match Offer in October. Simply scanned my offer from another casino (just had my name and players card number on it), and they contacted me to set everything up. I have to say that they were a class act - I didn't have a Trop Plus players card prior to this, and they had it waiting in an envelope for me when I checked in. As long as the name on the offer and the name on the deals card match, you're good to go. FYI, the 3 free nights plus the free slot play I received paid for the price of my Emerald card. I've used considerable deals on top of that, so it's saved me a ton of money already.
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:02:44 PM permalink
Quote: ohiovegasguy

Boz,

Offers depending on the amount are subject to verification by the Tropicana marketing dept. They are very fast with providing a confirmation number so I would imagine this is a simple process. If you have your player card number on the offer that would help.

This makes no sense. Your telling me you or tropicana calls my casino pretending to be me using my information? Even If they are not pretending to be me, NO CASINOS SHOULD BE GIVING ANY OTHER CASINOS MY DETAILS ABOUT ANYTHING I HAVE AVAILABLE OR I DO.

Thats a slippery slope.

Hosts would use this tactic to snag players by offering them a little bit more or even decide they offer to much and could get away with less.

ps don't think they wont because a casino just got caught and fined for using slot keys to gather information.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:09:25 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

This makes no sense. Your telling me you or tropicana calls my casino pretending to be me using my information? If they are not pretending to be me NO CASINOS SHOULD BE GIVING ANY OTHER CASINOS MY DETAILS ABOUT ANYTHING I HAVE AVAILABLE OR I DO.

Thats a slippery slope.

Hosts would use this tactic to snag players by offering them a little bit more or even decide they offer to much.



AxelWolf,

I appreciate your feedback regarding the Tropicana offer. It sounds like this offer may not be right for you and appreciate the honestly. I am not sure where it was said Tropicana calls pretending to be you. Very basic information is submitted for the Tropicana match offer. In all honestly only the larger offers seem to take the extra step and approved by the VP of Marketing. Smaller offers are visually approved.
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:19:00 PM permalink
Wanted to provide my own personal experiences with Vegas Rover. I had known about the RocketHub campaign back when it started. I was very pessimistic and skeptical of signing up as I didn't really know how legit it was. I signed up with the basic card at the last minute. I then got to know Brad and John through email and other conversations and knew immediately these guys were legit and working hard for it's members. My first time to use the card was at the Vegas Rover meet a few months ago. I stayed for free at Tropicana, got discounted rates at the Tuscany and stayed for free at the D, all of which were without resort fees. I also enjoyed free match play at several of the casinos and discounted food. All of this would not have been possible without the Vegas Rover card. I am an extreme couponer and spend the time to look for deals and I did not see a way to get any of these deals unless I was gambling tons of money and hoping for free offers. This is a legit deal and I know many others who have also taken advantage of the deals. The great thing is that with the one price I paid, the card continues to increase in value with new deals being added all the time. Even being a couponer, I do enjoy not having to clip coupons or carry loose papers around to get the deals. Just show the card and boom, get the deal!

I really don't understand all the haters out there, especially if you haven't tried it. We have all made mistakes in our life and a lot of us learn from them and are better off in the end after making those mistakes. Don't hate because you didn't come up with the idea. It's your choice to believe in this card or not but it's legit and not a scam.
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:24:10 PM permalink
Quote: ohiovegasguy

AxelWolf,

I appreciate your feedback regarding the Tropicana offer. It sounds like this offer may not be right for you and appreciate the honestly. I am not sure where it was said Tropicana calls pretending to be you. Very basic information is submitted for the Tropicana match offer. In all honestly only the larger offers seem to take the extra step and approved by the VP of Marketing. Smaller offers are visually approved.

I apologize I assumed they called or emailed the casino the offer was from and verified it with THEM.Thats not the case right? they verify it in house is what you meant?

If that's the case then thats a slippery slope, if I found out my casino was giving out information about me or my offers to anyone but me. Id blast that information all over the forums.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:29:24 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I apologize I assumed they called or emailed the casino the offer was from and verified it with THEM.Thats not the case right? they verify it in house is what you meant?

If that's the case then thats a slippery slope, if I found out my casino was giving out information about me or my offers to anyone but me. Id blast that information all over the forums.




No worries just wanted to clear that up.
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:34:22 PM permalink
Quote: ohiovegasguy

No worries just wanted to clear that up.

To be clear.... your company or the Tropicana doesn't contact My casino(where my offer is from) enquiring about me or my offers correct?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:43:31 PM permalink
Axel I'm not saying they do it don't but when gden nugget in ac did the weekly offer match- which was just a total 100000 percent home run. They called and verified my offers with the casino I had the offer from so this would not be out of the norm
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:47:32 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

To be clear.... your company or the Tropicana doesn't contact My casino(where my offer is from) enquiring about me or my offers correct?



Axel,

Tropicana reserves the right to verify. How or if they do it, I don't have an answer for. I am not going to speculate on this, but no casino in the world is going to give someone $500+ in freeplay without verifying. It would make the system vulnerable to fraud and abuse.
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:53:56 PM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

Axel I'm not saying they do it don't but when gden nugget in ac did the weekly offer match- which was just a total 100000 percent home run. They called and verified my offers with the casino I had the offer from so this would not be out of the borm

Well thats AC for you.

Anyways weren't you standing there? I'm more concerned anyone would give information over the phone to anyone other than you yourself. You realizes how this is not a good thing. It opens up a long list of crap.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:54:30 PM permalink
My one-time post on this forum will undoubtedly illicit skepticism. I would expect no more or less from any long-standing forum, where credibility is associated with longevity, so take from this what you will. I can only make attestation to my experience with Vegas Rover.

I'm not a high roller, and don't get any worthwhile comp-stay offers from my play, but I make 2-4 trips to Vegas per year, either with friends or on my own. I personally made 2 trips in September of this year that I would have made regardless of any 'deals card' membership. I saw the rockethub promotion for Vegas Rover, and took a chance with a basic membership, but upgraded to Emerald as additional deals were announced during the campaign.

Net result, on my 2 trips I saved roughly $330 on the rooms alone (see breakdown below), more than covering my membership fee. The property locations and offer restrictions matched up with my particular requirements on those trips, so I have no complaints about how things worked out.

I have had nothing but helpful interactions with Brad and John, Brad has repeatedly offered to be available for questions while I was in town, and I had a nice face-to-face chat with both John and Brad during my first trip.

The representatives and hosts for the properties' player's clubs recognized the Vegas Rover offers without difficulty.

I am looking forward to my next Vegas Trip, especially with the additional partners added recently, with my Vegas Rover card tucked safely in my wallet.

Trip 1
2 comp nights (Sun-Mon) at The D, no resort fee - savings around $120 from best rate for that property.
Match Play:
1x $25 used at the California (BJ, won)
2x $25 used at The D (BJ, won 1 of 2)

Trip 2
Tuscany - Buy One/Get One - Friday/Saturday VR rate, $100 total cost, no resort fee - savings around $210 from best rate for that property.
1 x $25 Match Play used at BJ (lost)
$25 Free Play used at VP (net win)
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December 21st, 2014 at 8:56:13 PM permalink
Quote: Lobo

I signed up with the basic card at the last minute. I stayed for free at Tropicana.



Psssssst: Basic memberships do not include free Tropicana rooms.
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December 21st, 2014 at 9:03:35 PM permalink
Quote: vegasNOver

Psssssst: Basic memberships do not include free Tropicana rooms.



To be honest I know the member who posted this. He purchased a Basic membership for him and his wife during our RocketHub campaign. After talking to John and I several times we allowed him to upgrade to Emerald and pay the difference. Him and his wife are current Vegas Rover Emerald members and attended our October meet at Tuscany and the D.
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December 21st, 2014 at 9:06:57 PM permalink
I will say he was the most skeptic about our program and asked a lot of questions even before purchasing the Basic membership. When he decided to upgrade to Emerald for him and his wife at the same time I knew that our program was going in the right direction. It was an absolute pleasure meeting him and his family at the meet and not sure the meet would have been the same without hearing his yelling during the Sigma Derby tournament.
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December 21st, 2014 at 9:15:18 PM permalink
Quote: ohiovegasguy

To be honest I know the member who posted this. He purchased a Basic membership for him and his wife during our RocketHub campaign. After talking to John and I several times we allowed him to upgrade to Emerald and pay the difference. Him and his wife are current Vegas Rover Emerald members and attended our October meet at Tuscany and the D.



Oh well if YOU are going to vouch for him...er...no.
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December 21st, 2014 at 9:17:55 PM permalink
Sorry I have to post something funny. This episode of Everyone Loves Raymond keeps popping in my head as some comments have been posted the last couple days. Skip to 1 minute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_uKP-_7jEI
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December 21st, 2014 at 9:20:17 PM permalink
Quote: vegasNOver

Psssssst: Basic memberships do not include free Tropicana rooms.



I do apologize for not specifying that I had upgraded!
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December 21st, 2014 at 9:45:00 PM permalink
Keeping with the spirit of the original thread topic there are 2 hours left on the $10 Basic sale. Midnight PT cards return to their normal pricing of $29.95. Thanks to everyone who was willing to give our program a try. Cards will be shipping the beginning of the week.
http://www.vegasrover.com

Basic Card
Hotel Offers
30% Room Discount the D Casino Hotel Las Vegas
$35/$75 Room Discount Tuscany Suites (No resort fee)
Gaming Offers (Redeem at Players Club)
$25 Table Match Play the D Casino Hotel Las Vegas
$25 Table Match Play Golden Gate Hotel Casino
$10 Table Match Play Tuscany Suites (Quarterly)
$10 Table Match Play Tropicana Las Vegas
$25 Push on 22 Blackjack the D Casino Hotel Las Vegas
Pay $25 get $10 Slot Play Tuscany Suites (Quarterly)
$100 Free Slot Play ($5 slot play every 50 points) the D Casino Hotel Las Vegas
$25 Free Slot Play (Earn 200 points) Golden Gate Hotel Casino

Food and Drink Offers
15% Discount Hash House A Go Go (Plaza, The Linq, or Sahara Ave location)
15% Discount Pizza Rock
20% Discount Ketchup Premium Burger Bar
20% Discount Cortez Room Gold Coast Las Vegas
20% Discount Carlos'n Charlie's
20% Discount McFadden's Las Vegas
10% Discount Harley-Davidson Cafe Retail & Food
2-1 Entree The Cantina or Marilyns Cafe Tuscany Suites
2-1 Frozen Margaritas Carlos'n Charlie's
2-1 Drinks Tropicana Lounge Anytime (Premium Drinks Included)
$15 Open Bar Thursdays McFadden's Las Vegas

Entertainment Offers
$20/$30 High Roller Tickets (Includes 1 free drink)
$21.99 Voodoo Zip Line tickets Rio Anytime
Exclusive Pricing Maverick Helicopter Tours
$18.18 Tickets or $10 off VIP Frankie Scinta the D Casino Hotel Las Vegas
Save $10 Marriage Can Be Murder the D Casino Hotel Las Vegas
2-1 tickets Laughternoon the D Casino Hotel Las Vegas
Save $7 Fast Lap Indoor Kart Racing
Save $40 Wild West Horseback Adventures
Up to 50% Off Vegas Pub Crawler

Transportation Offers
Up to 22% Off Las Vegas Monorail
10% Discount Airline Shuttle Corp
10% Discount Las Vegas Limousines
10% Discount SuperShuttle
12% Exclusive Discount EZ Car Rental
Up to 20% Off Hertz
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December 21st, 2014 at 11:14:30 PM permalink
Quote: VegasVanguard



Trip 1
2 comp nights (Sun-Mon) at The D, no resort fee - savings around $120 from best rate for that property.
Match Play:
1x $25 used at the California (BJ, won)
2x $25 used at The D (BJ, won 1 of 2)

Trip 2
Tuscany - Buy One/Get One - Friday/Saturday VR rate, $100 total cost, no resort fee - savings around $210 from best rate for that property.
1 x $25 Match Play used at BJ (lost)
$25 Free Play used at VP (net win)



I appreciate you posting this. I am surprised rooms at The D cost that much (I am fully comped there) but I did a search and indeed, they are around that rate.

Now if someone claiming to have saved $500 on one trip would be as kind as you were, I would love to read the breakdown of those savings.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:27:16 AM permalink
Quote: Baza

Any company that censors bad feedback speaks for its self.

Buy a LVA coupon book instead.



I'd obviously buy both, and an ACG too.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:32:59 AM permalink
Quote: heretobustfraud

Brad you created Vegas Rover because you were forced to for trying to profit from a companies copyright. All the other myvegas groups are still around. Please tell the truth



He said it is the only OFFICIAL MyVegas approved group, and that's a true statement.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:38:00 AM permalink
Quote: vegasNOver

You are a horrible liar.



Personal Insult, Three Days.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:55:55 AM permalink
May I Have Your Attention Please

I would ask that all, "One-Off," posters or Members signing up simply to rave about the Vegas Rover card go ahead and not do that. It's not verifiable and it accomplishes nothing other than making this thread longer and generating a bunch of space between posts actually in some way relevant to what is being offered.

There is presently a standing offer for a few long-time WoV Members to take advantage of this card and I will look forward to hearing their experiences with this card. The (claimed) experiences of someone newly signed up for this site unaccompanied by any other kind of verification, in my opinion, does not constitute the type of vetting that I think is beneficial for anyone reading the thread. Put simply, we don't know who these people are.

The only thing that I think any of our Members should take into consideration is the opinions and experiences that a few of our longtime WoV Members will have when they try out this card. I look forward to these reports and consider nothing else relevant.

ERGO, from this point forward, any other posts that are meant to constitute a positive, "Review," for Vegas Rover from Members with a Joined Date of 12/21/2014, or later, will be construed as FLOODING and such posts will be summarily deleted, by me.

PART 2

Any posts that are made by Members with a Joined Date on or AFTER 12/21/2014 will ALSO be considered FLOODING for the reasons above and will be summarily deleted if they are made for the sole purpose of speaking detrimentally about Vegas Rover.

Further, any posts that call into question the repute of OhioVegasGuy or VPJohn without presenting new information, other than conjecture, (i.e. constantly repeating yourself) MAY or MAY NOT constitute TROLLING which we will determine on a case-by-case basis.

CONCLUSION

At this point, my position is that I am only interested in, and I would encourage our Members only to be interested in, one thing and one thing only: The Experiences Of Our Longtime Members When They Try Out This Card.

Thank you for your kind attention.

-Mission146
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 22nd, 2014 at 2:13:37 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

May I Have Your Attention Please

I would ask that all, "One-Off," posters or Members signing up simply to rave about the Vegas Rover card go ahead and not do that. It's not verifiable and it accomplishes nothing other than making this thread longer and generating a bunch of space between posts actually in some way relevant to what is being offered.

There is presently a standing offer for a few long-time WoV Members to take advantage of this card and I will look forward to hearing their experiences with this card. The (claimed) experiences of someone newly signed up for this site unaccompanied by any other kind of verification, in my opinion, does not constitute the type of vetting that I think is beneficial for anyone reading the thread. Put simply, we don't know who these people are.

The only thing that I think any of our Members should take into consideration is the opinions and experiences that a few of our longtime WoV Members will have when they try out this card. I look forward to these reports and consider nothing else relevant.

ERGO, from this point forward, any other posts that are meant to constitute a positive, "Review," for Vegas Rover from Members with a Joined Date of 12/21/2014, or later, will be construed as FLOODING and such posts will be summarily deleted, by me.

PART 2

Any posts that are made by Members with a Joined Date on or AFTER 12/21/2014 will ALSO be considered FLOODING for the reasons above and will be summarily deleted if they are made for the sole purpose of speaking detrimentally about Vegas Rover.

Further, any posts that call into question the repute of OhioVegasGuy or VPJohn without presenting new information, other than conjecture, (i.e. constantly repeating yourself) MAY or MAY NOT constitute TROLLING which we will determine on a case-by-case basis.

CONCLUSION

At this point, my position is that I am only interested in, and I would encourage our Members only to be interested in, one thing and one thing only: The Experiences Of Our Longtime Members When They Try Out This Card.

Thank you for your kind attention.

-Mission146




hope this is not flooding I have been a long member of LVA and ACG and will be in the next year I plan 2 or 3 days going around getting the 5 or 10 bucks in free play but I can see the value in the rover card also and will be using the discounts from it +from MyVegas if there are any good dealsleft by the time my next trip comes
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December 22nd, 2014 at 2:19:22 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

He said it is the only OFFICIAL MyVegas approved group, and that's a true statement.



Yeah I know there is only one official one now. What I meant was that there are many MyVegas groups that continue on without threats to get sued. Brad's group however was profitting from MyVegas and that is why he was forced to changed the name and he admitted that himself when he discussed his affiliate links for discounted slot play
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December 22nd, 2014 at 2:31:20 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

May I Have Your Attention Please

I would ask that all, "One-Off," posters or Members signing up simply to rave about the Vegas Rover card go ahead and not do that. It's not verifiable and it accomplishes nothing other than making this thread longer and generating a bunch of space between posts actually in some way relevant to what is being offered.

There is presently a standing offer for a few long-time WoV Members to take advantage of this card and I will look forward to hearing their experiences with this card. The (claimed) experiences of someone newly signed up for this site unaccompanied by any other kind of verification, in my opinion, does not constitute the type of vetting that I think is beneficial for anyone reading the thread. Put simply, we don't know who these people are.

The only thing that I think any of our Members should take into consideration is the opinions and experiences that a few of our longtime WoV Members will have when they try out this card. I look forward to these reports and consider nothing else relevant.

ERGO, from this point forward, any other posts that are meant to constitute a positive, "Review," for Vegas Rover from Members with a Joined Date of 12/21/2014, or later, will be construed as FLOODING and such posts will be summarily deleted, by me.

PART 2

Any posts that are made by Members with a Joined Date on or AFTER 12/21/2014 will ALSO be considered FLOODING for the reasons above and will be summarily deleted if they are made for the sole purpose of speaking detrimentally about Vegas Rover.

Further, any posts that call into question the repute of OhioVegasGuy or VPJohn without presenting new information, other than conjecture, (i.e. constantly repeating yourself) MAY or MAY NOT constitute TROLLING which we will determine on a case-by-case basis.

CONCLUSION

At this point, my position is that I am only interested in, and I would encourage our Members only to be interested in, one thing and one thing only: The Experiences Of Our Longtime Members When They Try Out This Card.

Thank you for your kind attention.

-Mission146

GOOD JOB MISSION !! 3 Z finger snap for sure.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 22nd, 2014 at 5:51:56 AM permalink
I have been given a gold membership and will be attnwpting to book today with the tropicana - will advise how it goes
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
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December 22nd, 2014 at 5:57:49 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

He said it is the only OFFICIAL MyVegas approved group, and that's a true statement.



I thought myvegas friends was an official group.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 7:23:06 AM permalink
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I start sorry english is not my first language. I bought gold card at $30 price, card arrived in Netherlands 1 weeks later. I did match at Tropicana for $275 in free slot money + 3 nights room. It took few days for response to Tropicana but Tropicana reach out directly back to me. They match slot and room and also matched $50 food but I did not know food was matched not listed on site. Everything went well at registration, they are friendly and had envelope for me with instructions welcome. I use match chip at D and ate at hash house a go go no problem. Membership pay back nicely for me and hub. I do not understand angry people here in forum who not have card.



sugarbiscuit is banned, nuclear option, dupe ID previously banned member.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 8:13:28 AM permalink
No telling how long this circus would have lasted. Might have overtaken the discussion of the suspension list.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 8:43:02 AM permalink
Hello, I have been a member here since 2010, but I don't post frequently.
This is my board name everywhere.
I also run a Las Vegas board.

I had a long response typed out to this thread last night at midnight and hit the wrong button and lost it. I decided I was too tired to start over and that I would attempt to respond in the morning. After reading the Admin 's message I am not sure I can add anything new to the conversation, my intent was to back up the detractors of Vegas Rover.
If this is inappropriate please remove it.

I do not know these men. I have no ax to grind. I am not a competitor or a sworn enemy etc etc etc.

I spend ALL my free time watching everything online that has anything to do with Las Vegas.

I have been watching these men since the beginning. The MyVegas group split, the Border Grille debacle, the cease and desist order to stop using the MyVegas name, etc etc etc. There was always one common denominator...wherever there was trouble, the name "Brad Baker" would come up.

I was a member of the Facebook Rover group without even realizing it. (I just join anything about Vegas) I didn't notice it at all until last Spring when I started getting pleas for money ten times a day.
The messages Brad sent out were very strange. It was like he was using psychological manipulation to achieve his ends. I was both horrified and fascinated.

Horrified because in my opinion, crowd-funding should be used for charitable things.
Like "my son has cancer and we need money for medical expenses." or "Our house just burned to the ground and we need help"
Not..."Oh hey...I have an idea for a business...give me money so I can start it. I have no idea what, if anything, you will get in return...but give me money anyhow."

In my experience when you start an honourable business you either
A. work and earn the money to start said business or
B. take out a business loan

THIS page of their Rockethub campaign is just ridiculous.
A lot of BS for the most part.

http://www.rockethub.com/projects/41395-help-change-the-vegas-travel-experience-forever-with-vegasrover-com

I particularly enjoy the fantasy about their website. NONE of this has happened.

I quote

Our primary website: 100% Free - 100% gamified - Coming July - Non Member
Free aggregated news from all the top Las Vegas news and blog providers, as well as news stories we break
NOPE.
Free expertly written and insightful guides to just about anything you wanted to do in Las Vegas, with new guides coming out weekly.
NOPE
Free expertly written reviews
NOPE
We will maintain accurate up to the minute resort fees.
NOPE
Vegas Rover produced video content ???
Provide hotel/resort listings and a revolutionary new scoring-review system that no travel site has yet.
NOPE
Integrated member provided trip reports
NOPE
Expert and Member fielded Q&A System
NOPE
Downloadable and printable maps
NOPE
Special Events Coverage
NOPE
Special Offers
NOPE
New targeted discussion groups
NOPE




This is one of the hundreds of messages that was sent by Brad last Spring...

"0.7% of members have contributed to our VegasRover.com RocketHub campaign. $8,884 of $25,000. Just sayin'

Not sure people realize this... but if we don't reach our funding goal, this Facebook group will cease to operate... i.e. no new posts approved, etc etc.
In the event that we do not reach our financing goal, rest assured that all perks will still be fulfilled. Vegas Rover will seek outside financing via Venture Capital Groups and SBA loans as bridge capital, along with my personal capital for the completion of the website. Our first priority is to complete and launch the website, albeit with a few less bells and whistles. The new members only group on the website will be available for those who paid. We will still continue to close exclusive deals for all our members and offer the concierge service for those who purchased it.
But this group here on facebook, it will not be operational since enough people did not care to help keep it going...
If we do reach our goal, we're able to allocate time and people to keep it running on par with the rest of the brand as we progress.
That's why even if you don't want to become a full paying member at the $50 range, a small donation in the $5, $10 or $25 range goes to keeping this group open and operational.
— feeling puzzled."



The "Rovers" were egging each other on...to give more and more money to support the "group". Oh..you are a bad Rover if you don't support! Skip your morning coffee...send the money to Rover! Oh...your neighbour is going to have a better card than you...better shell out more money! It went on and on and on.

The constant pleas for money were annoying, but I didn't turn them off. I wanted to see where they went with this. I just COULD NOT believe that people were turning over their hard earned money to them with no real promise of anything in return.

Then one day...

I made the mistake of responding to a poll at their FB Vegas Rewards.
This was the first time I spoke on one of their FB pages.

The question Brad posed was
" Which deals will you use most often with our new Vegas Rover Deals card?"

I responded "Could I please see a list of the future deals?"

That seemed like a logical question to me. How do I respond to that poll if I have no clue what they are offering?

I was immediately banned and received a PM from Brad chastising me for trolling.
I said. "I am not trolling, I asked a question. there is a difference.
I don't buy invisible products. When I buy LVA or ACG I know what I am getting. I would like to know what deals are in store for this group."

Of course, he couldn't answer that question because at the time there was nothing.

THAT is NOT a very professional way to handle a prospective customer who asked a simple question. My opinion of him certainly fell THAT day.
For some reason unknown to me he unbanned me for awhile...so I could watch the goings on. They had an open FB group that the Partners could see, and a closed group where all the crazy unprofessional stuff happened.
I lost track of how many people were banned just for asking questions.


I was stunned when these two managed to guilt trip/coerce people out of $30,000. I guess all that browbeating worked. Then in May...they both went to Vegas for several months...spending that money...and supposedly securing fabulous deals.

Then....the news that Brad was a felon came out.
As soon as that news came out Ellis Island pulled out of their deal with Rover.....like the next day. They also promised a Plaza deal that never materialized. Possibly for the same reason?

Have I ever done something in my past that I regret? Sure. But I am not a felon and I have never been in jail...serving time for deceiving people.
Was it awhile ago?
Yes...but it speaks to his character...or lack thereof.
I don't like or trust the personality traits I have seen this man exhibit.

I find it particularly amusing that they sell "tickets" to attend their meets.
I hold meets twice a year and have never charged a dime.
Every move they make seems to be designed to wring as much money as possible from their members.

I am sure that when the WofV members meet with these guys and get their cards they will be impressed by their friendliness. People who want something from you are usually very friendly. (i.e. advertising)

Most of their "exclusive" deals can be had for sitting down and playing for a bit, which is what people visiting Vegas usually do anyhow . Frequently a better deal can be had on Groupon or Living Social without purchasing a card.

If I had just stumbled across Vegas Rover without seeing all the shenanigans that went on beforehand I might have been interested. Now I won't even allow the VR name to appear on my board.

Is the card worth ten bucks?
Sure, but I wouldn't pay two cents to support people who have acted in this manner.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 8:49:37 AM permalink
THANK YOU, Blonde4ever. You are a long time member here and your small history of posts shows you have a message board which helps your credibility with me at a minimum and I am sure with other long time members.

Your input is greatly appreciated and allows anyone who works with these guys to be able to go into it with eyes wide open. Too many questions and red flags for me when someone is asking up to $450 for a membership.


Thanks again!
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December 22nd, 2014 at 8:56:20 AM permalink
Quote: ohiovegasguy

Brief history recap. I joined his myVegas friends group in August of 2012. BAZ (Barry) made me an administrator of the group. I did not agree with the other 2 admins and decided to part ways one month later creating my own myVegas topic group. After that it was like a war of the Facebook groups. In 2013 we decided to part ways with anything having to do with myVegas and created a group called Vegas Rover. Barry continued to follow our group and when the Vegas Rover Deals card launched he was ready with the attacks. The other 2 admins of his group created their own group which is now the only official myVegas Approved group called myVegas Friends Rocks.



This is not 100% true tho is it Brad.

Yes, I started MyVegasFriends back in August 2012 (the first ever MyVegas related group) and you were an admin for a month.
What you failed to say was it was only when you introduced pay per click links into my group and noticed you could make money that you decided to leave.
You also failed to mention that when you left my group you also deleted a huge chunk of members and added them to your new group to get you started with a lot of members.
You basically set up your new group as a copy of my one (Myvegasfriendsanddeals)with the same threads and then constantly told your members to leave my group as we were attacking you. You even mad a nice little graphic to show members how to remove themselves.
It was obvious by the way you added "and deals" that you intended to make money from the members.
Your group was all about getting people to click on and buy the affiliate links you had from MGM and Ceasers.

The only reason you decided to have nothing to do with Myvegas was because you were given an ultimatum by them to change the groups name or they would commence legal action against you.
You then rather hastily closed the group and added the members to the new group Vegas rover.

In January this year I decided to close my group and sent the admins on their way. They then moved to MVFR to set up home there.
After several PM's I decided to start afresh with new admins.
MVFR were the first approved group and then my group also became approved. You then added a rosette to mimic the approved one (https://www.facebook.com/vegasrewards?fref=ts) and added it to the banner of your group/page but you state you had stopped having anything to do with Myvegas anymore.
You were still posting chip shares etc this year to attract players up until a couple of months back.
quote "Page Info
Short Description
Welcome to Vegas Rewards. We are your home for all Las Vegas Related Facebook Games and Social Rewards."



Basically you feel that all the admins of my group attack you for no reason, you also don't like any of the MVFR admins, Playstudious or MGM.
Why is that? If you such a nice guy why would people be against you.

Ill try and provide some screenshots if I can find them to show the kind of attacks you used to post.

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December 22nd, 2014 at 9:04:52 AM permalink
Brad/ohiovegasguy, I'm curious as to why you waited until now to tell us about Vegas Rover when it launched last July.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 9:47:34 AM permalink
I would tend to trust Blone4Ever's opinion of this group of characters. She has been a major contributor to Las Vegas information for a long time. I am now done with this thread and I am sure if I am missing something great I will hear about it from other members here.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 9:50:10 AM permalink
Quote: Blonde4ever



The "Rovers" were egging each other on...to give more and more money to support the "group". Oh..you are a bad Rover if you don't support! Skip your morning coffee...send the money to Rover! Oh...your neighbour is going to have a better card than you...better shell out more money! It went on and on and on.

The constant pleas for money were annoying, but I didn't turn them off. I wanted to see where they went with this. I just COULD NOT believe that people were turning over their hard earned money to them with no real promise of anything in return.

Is the card worth ten bucks?
Sure, but I wouldn't pay two cents to support people who have acted in this manner.



Blonde4ever and Baza.
Both of you are relentless and it impresses me to a certain extent. I see the raising money issue is a thorn to both of you.
Well if that's the case, You 2 can really help out mankind. Rover is small potatoes.
The donation requests were peanuts.
The professionals in raising money and ripping off people is $cientology.
$cientology wants people to totally max out credit cards and give them all the money.
Going after Rover is like playing in rookie league baseball, lower then Class A or AA or AAA,
Get into the big leagues, we need you and your relentless against the greedy cult of $scientology.
Cmon blonde4ever and Baza, go after the big boys.


Appreciate you letting me know the card is worth 10 bucks.
Looking forward to using it :-)
PS blonde4ever, chill out on the font
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December 22nd, 2014 at 9:55:59 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I would tend to trust Blone4Ever's opinion of this group of characters. She has been a major contributor to Las Vegas information for a long time. I am now done with this thread and I am sure if I am missing something great I will hear about it from other members here.

Yes, this.

And hello again, Blonde; nice to see you around, didn't know you were here. I remember you originally from "Brian's Board" ("What Brian Thinks about Las Vegas...") and whatnot going back some years ago.

Regards,
a.k.a. Mohave
Suck dope, watch TV, make up stuff, be somebody on the internet.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 9:58:09 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Brad/ohiovegasguy, I'm curious as to why you waited until now to tell us about Vegas Rover when it launched last July.



Because they were running out of customers (victims)
Sorry about the font..it looked small on the ipad....

Thanks for the nice words...I am very much around...lol
(Where are the smileys on this board?)
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December 22nd, 2014 at 10:04:16 AM permalink
I said earlier that this thread was just weird. It's now far beyond that. And for what? Do either of you guys that have carried your feud here from other locations honestly believe that you are convincing any members here of anything at this point?

When, I first read the thread, in the first few minutes, I figured I would give it a try. I am an EV whore, so this is right up my alley. But after a few hours of the thread, let alone days, I just said to hell with it. I suspect many members feel the same. A few have decided to go ahead and give it a try (some before all this blew up), so their satisfaction, could be the best advertising you get as far as this site and getting new members.

But in the meantime, continuing this third grade name calling and back and forth from both sides, isn't changing anyone's mind or convincing anyone of anything, other than, that there are obviously two parties that have carried a long running feud onto our peaceful and loving site.

I sometimes feel this site is over-moderated. Now when I really wish the mods would step in and put an end to this non-sense, they sit on their hands. :(
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December 22nd, 2014 at 12:32:02 PM permalink
Blonde4ever has a history with Vegas Rover also. We have had to block her from our Vegas Rover page multiple times due to harassing posts and libel statements. She runs a competitive forum and does not like anyone new coming into the market. She is tight with the LVA board. I am sure many on here know what the LVA board is about and some of the regulars. Just take one glance at the Free for all and you will figure out quickly.

Again I will repeat one last time for all to see. We are a Vegas Deals Card program. You purchase a card and receive the deals available. The program has not changed besides adding around 30 new offers and many partners since July 1st. We are launching several new partners on Jan 2 including casino partners.

I again challenge anyone to prove 1 deal listed is not valid. All that the trolls can bring up is someones history or personal feud which has nothing to do with the Vegas Rover Discount Card. There are a few people who would like nothing else but to see our program fail. They have a big surprise on Jan 2nd as we announce new partners.

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December 22nd, 2014 at 12:40:23 PM permalink
One question equals libel????? LOLOL!
Competitor????
When I offer no cards, coupons or anything of that nature???
I am no more "tight" with LVA than I am with Wizard of Vegas!
You are hysterical!
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December 22nd, 2014 at 12:49:04 PM permalink
Keep in mind every negative post about our program on this forum is from not one person who has purchased our card or spent a dime. I would never expect them to purchase to be clear with the history of trolling in the past. Again what is their agenda? You do the match.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 12:49:47 PM permalink
Quote: ohiovegasguy

Blonde4ever has a history with Vegas Rover also. We have had to block her from our Vegas Rover page multiple times due to harassing posts and libel statements. She runs a competitive forum and does not like anyone new coming into the market. She is tight with the LVA board. I am sure many on here know what the LVA board is about and some of the regulars. Just take one glance at the Free for all and you will figure out quickly.

Again I will repeat one last time for all to see. We are a Vegas Deals Card program. You purchase a card and receive the deals available. The program has not changed besides adding around 30 new offers and many partners since July 1st. We are launching several new partners on Jan 2 including casino partners.

I again challenge anyone to prove 1 deal listed is not valid. All that the trolls can bring up is someones history or personal feud which has nothing to do with the Vegas Rover Discount Card. There are a few people who would like nothing else but to see our program fail. They have a big surprise on Jan 2nd as we announce new partners.

Brad Baker
Co-Founder and Marketing Coordinator
www.vegasrover.com



Brad, just a suggestion that you can do with what you want. Blonde is a legitimate member here and has a good rep on the net. You are going to be hard pressed to find anyone to say otherwise. You are only hurting your cause here, which is probably lost already, with bashing anyone and everyone who has something negative to say about your product.

I went into this wanting to give it a chance, but as others have said, its hard to do business with people who seem to act like you do. Your way too defensive for someone who is trying to build a business. Your CEO acted like a child and got suspended here and lets just say you have your detractors for whatever reason. Stating your product is better than Curtis's doesnt help either. Let it stand on its own. I dont see the 2 coupon books posting negative things about each other.

I do hope this ends soon, but like midget porn, you just have to keep looking. Come on, someone had to add something funny to this!
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December 22nd, 2014 at 12:51:52 PM permalink
Just noticed THIS post on LVA from Anthony Curtis.
Whom I am not TIGHT with...by the way


"We've let this go because we've always allowed discussion of competing factions (take ACG, for example). If there's something good in a program that people can use, then they have a right to know about it. But I've had enough of dig_dougpt using our message boards as his sales pulpit. It's just bad form, just like about everything else I've witnessed from the Rover group. I should have stepped in at the comment about my trying to get deals pulled. It was the opposite. I had a couple of chances to diffuse their deals and declined to do so. I'm not bombing this thread, but it will continue without dig_dougpt's involvement from this point. "
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:02:50 PM permalink
This will be my last post in this thread. I will be at the Jan 9th Wizard of Vegas meet. Anyone attending that meet will receive a complimentary 1 year Gold membership. I will just need the list of names and will bring your card. I encourage those receiving a card to give their honest feedback and look forward to meeting you all in a couple weeks.


Warm Regards,

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www.Vegasrover.com
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:02:58 PM permalink
It appears all mods are engaged now and have tried to sort of steer this train onto productive tracks. I've just a bit of my own to add before I slink back into the darkness.

Quote: ohiovegasguy

The admins are welcome to check my IP address. I have one and only one account on this forum. It will be located in NW Ohio where I reside.



We do check IP's here, and that is the topic of my query. As it turns out, there is a match with one "calijeff". A search into this account found one thread, made in September of this year. The one post is quoted below.

Quote: calijeff

There is a great deal on the Vegas Rover Deals Card. Just bought a Basic membership for $25

Here is the list hope I didn't miss any deals

30% Off Rooms the D Las Vegas
$35/$75 Rooms and No resort fee Tuscany Suites
15% Off Rooms Tropicana Las Vegas
$25 Table Match Play the D Las Vegas
$25 Table Match Play Golden Gate Las Vegas
$40 Table Match Play Tuscany Suites ($10 Quarterly)
$40 Free Slot Play (Play $25 Receive $10 Quarterly)
$10 Table Match Play Tropicana Las Vegas
$25 Push on 22 Blackjack the D Las Vegas
$25 Free Play (Earn 200 points) Golden Gate Las Vegas
$5 Free Slot Play for every 50 points $100 Max) the D Las Vegas
2-1 Entree Cantina & Marilyn's Cafe Tuscany Suites
20% Off Cortez Room Steakhouse Gold Coast Las Vegas
Frankie Scinta $18.18 Tickets the D Las Vegas
Laughternoon Buy 1 Get 1 the D Las Vegas
Marriage Can Be Murder $10 Off the D Las Vegas
2-1 Drinks Trop Lounge Tropicana Las Vegas
Discounted Monorail Tickets

www.vegasrover.com



Same "vegasrover" web link. Same IP. And nearly all of the deals provided in this quoted post match the deals provided by ohiovegasguy at the start of this thread.

As this thread seems to be largely a battle to establish integrity, I'd ask ohiovegasguy to answer to this curiosity.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:19:38 PM permalink
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sugarbiscuit is banned, nuclear option, dupe ID previously banned member.



LOL. egalite/Rolex-Watch/sugarbiscuit is not even in Vegas! With all those drawdowns and running out of buy-ins in Australia he doesn't have the resources to fly all the way out here. He can't even afford $2.50 for a cup of coffee and he can't eat at the casino unless he is using his points! sugarbiscuit has no cash to make a splash so he has to dash.
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:21:31 PM permalink
Quote: Face

It appears all mods are engaged now and have tried to sort of steer this train onto productive tracks. I've just a bit of my own to add before I slink back into the darkness.



We do check IP's here, and that is the topic of my query. As it turns out, there is a match with one "calijeff". A search into this account found one thread, made in September of this year. The one post is quoted below.



Same "vegasrover" web link. Same IP. And nearly all of the deals provided in this quoted post match the deals provided by ohiovegasguy at the start of this thread.

As it seems this thread seems to be largely a battle to establish integrity, I'd ask ohiovegasguy to answer to this curiosity.



I doubt you will get a valid reply. You will now be on his Hit list and he is probably telling all his friends that WOV has attacked him.
I would of course welcome him to post a reply
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:36:18 PM permalink
Quote: Baza

I doubt you will get a valid reply. You will now be on his Hit list and he is probably telling all his friends that WOV has attacked him.
I would of course welcome him to post a reply



I may not, but I have more hope and faith than most.

I am also not attacking him, which I hope was communicated in my delivery. Simply, there is a potential issue here. Said issue is what I've been tasked to handle, and I feel doing so will serve to protect the base membership whom I serve.

There are many answers to this question. Some are innocent, some are less so. Some may reveal an integrity issue, some may compliment his honesty.

I'm just attempting to find out which.
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