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MrLeft
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October 24th, 2014 at 6:45:51 AM permalink
I'm in the relatively bilingual city of Montreal where people know what each other are referring to when they say "croupier" when talking in English even if it's a French word. But I was wondering what term the rest of the English world tends to use and/or prefer? Or is it not even an issue and half of you don't even know what "croupier" means? lol
beachbumbabs
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October 24th, 2014 at 6:55:20 AM permalink
I think of "croupier" as specific to Roulette, craps stick, and big baccarat (the one with the paddle) dealers. I don't think of it as a generic term for any dealer. I could easily be wrong. Born/raised in the USA.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
kubikulann
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October 24th, 2014 at 6:57:10 AM permalink
As a French-speaker, I agree with Babs. Croupier is for the guy with the rake. I would not use the term for a Blackjack dealer, for instance.
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Dane
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October 24th, 2014 at 7:09:40 AM permalink
I read somewhere that the person spinning the roulette wheel once was called TOURNEUR.
He might not have been as doped as certain modern Tour de France participants!
On the other hand: Not all dealers are innocent. I remember some lines from the young Canadian Leonard Cohen:
"It´s true that all the men you knew were dealers
who said they were through with dealing
every time you gave them shelter"....
TIME IS STILL IMPORTANT
Joeman
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October 24th, 2014 at 7:16:26 AM permalink
I learned the term croupier from my Dad. He led me to believe it applied to craps dealers specifically (the stick man in particular, IIRC).

I have never heard it used in a casino, and have uttered it myself in a casino exactly once: While playing craps in my younger days (wanting to use what was to me a new word, in the proper context), I dropped the dealers a toke and said, "For the croupiers!" This was met with blank stares. "For the dealers," said I, a tad more sheepishly. "Thank you, sir!"

Bear in mind that I play in US casinos almost exclusively. My only international casino experiences were very brief sessions in the Bahamas and in Canada (Windsor many years ago, and Niagara Falls not so many years ago.)

I must admit, I did not know the origin of the word until I looked up just now.
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Romes
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October 24th, 2014 at 10:17:14 AM permalink
Gonna hop on the apparent english USA definition... I think of a croupier for craps or roulette, but I don't consider a blackjack dealer to be a croupier. I think the general definition most of us have for croupier is something more than just your standard dealer.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
FleaStiff
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October 24th, 2014 at 11:20:28 AM permalink
The casinos have alot of ignorant employees many still in training so if you work in the table games area you are a dealer.

If you work in the craps pit you are a dice dealer. And no matter what your name tag reads, you are addressed at times as Stick if you are standing at that position and have a stick in your hand. Its not rudeness, indeed its the polite term. Stick chick is still heard but mostly its on its way out due to sexist attitudes amongst employees and managers. Croupier is not proper in the dice pit.

If you work in the BJ area you are a BJ dealer or dealer. You sure ain't never no croupier.

If you work in the oh so aloof area of Baccarat and wear a real necktie instead of western string tie and only start work in the early evening and do your work under a chandelier, you are still a dealer.

In roulette sure the term croupier was used but has now become "dealer" for simplicity. Even if they have a "mucker", he is still addressed as dealer though its not proper for a player to speak to him.
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