harrah's AC lawsuit
Quote: kewljYes, that is one good thing that has come from these cases.
How is that good or bad? If a cop or amyone, wants a 2nd job what does it matter who they work for or in what capacity if it is a private employer?
Quote: GandlerHow is that good or bad? If a cop or amyone, wants a 2nd job what does it matter who they work for or in what capacity if it is a private employer?
Because if cops are working a second job for a private employer that works hand in hand with that police force....that is a conflict of interest. If you can't recognize this simple fact, no wonder you are struggling with the rest of it and seeing it differently than everyone else.
Quote: kewljBecause if cops are working a second job for a private employer that works hand in hand with that police force....that is a conflict of interest. If you can't recognize this simple fact, no wonder you are struggling with the rest of it and seeing it differently than everyone else.
How do casinos work hand in hand with the police force?
Quote: GandlerHow do casinos work hand in hand with the police force?
Gandler, Bob Nersessian sued and won a very large settlement over a situation in which the police worked hand in hand with the casino.
In this particular case, casino security demanded to see two players ID. Neither of them had done anything more than count cards at Blackjack if I'm not mistaken. Certainly, they did nothing illegal.
They refused and the casino called the police.
Those officers were friendly with the casino security as was obvious from the way they greeted each other. The officers demanded to see their ID.
The man stated he would only comply if the officers did not hand it over to casino security. As casino security are private individuals, he had every right to make that demand, just like I can't force you to show me your ID!
The police officer agreed not to hand over his ID. The man gave it to the police officer who promptly and without further words, handed it over to the casino security.
Before you go stating that this was their right or whatever, it wasn't as has been proven in court. The casino paid a LOT of money for that very mistake.
Quote: darkozGandler, Bob Nersessian sued and won a very large settlement over a situation in which the police worked hand in hand with the casino.
In this particular case, casino security demanded to see two players ID. Neither of them had done anything more than count cards at Blackjack if I'm not mistaken. Certainly, they did nothing illegal.
They refused and the casino called the police.
Those officers were friendly with the casino security as was obvious from the way they greeted each other. The officers demanded to see their ID.
The man stated he would only comply if the officers did not hand it over to casino security. As casino security are private individuals, he had every right to make that demand, just like I can't force you to show me your ID!
The police officer agreed not to hand over his ID. The man gave it to the police officer who promptly and without further words, handed it over to the casino security.
Before you go stating that this was their right or whatever, it wasn't as has been proven in court. The casino paid a LOT of money for that very mistake.
In that situation I agree, if it happened how you say it did, I have never heard of that before now.
But if the theory is that cops can't work second jobs that compromise their views, then shouldn't they not work anywhere? What if a cop was working part time as a cashier at Walmart and their was a robbery or somebody tried to buy beer underage or anything and the police were called, couldn't that be a conflict of interest or any buisness that involves public interection?
I still don't understand why banning cops from working part time specifically and just at Casinos is helpful. It seems like it will just make it harder for casinos to find experienced canidate to fill secuirty positions or they will have to spend their own money to send applicants to training programs.
Quote: EdgeLookerCalling the police on the police can make for a biased situation. :)
I understand and agree. But why single out casinos? Any buisness may have to call the police and wouldn't having cops work there complicate those buisnesses just as much.
After jogging on the Boardwalk Sunday morning we returned to our room to find that our keys didn't work. After failing to get anyone on the house phone who could help we went to the front desk of this casino that shall remain nameless. All I could think of was the assaults on the Binn family and I filled my wife in on the way to the lobby.
She was a little apprehensive by the time we arrived at the desk but she needn't have been. The employees were very gracious, apologized profusely and bestowed us with generous comps for our troubles. They told us that if we had the room keys next to our cell phones the information on the magnetic strip could be wiped from the card. That's really why I'm relaying this story.
Always the skeptic, I'm not buying this but I don't have any knowledge in that area. I think we were accidentally checked out by human error or a computer glitch. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Trivia question: In what very popular 1960s TV sitcom did the family live on Bonnie Meadow Road in New Rochelle, NY?
Quote: 1BBThey told us that if we had the room keys next to our cell phones the information on the magnetic strip could be wiped from the card. That's really why I'm relaying this story.
Always the skeptic, I'm not buying this but I don't have any knowledge in that area. I think we were accidentally checked out buy human error or a computer glitch. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
I have been told the same thing before when my key no longer worked, at a hotel that definitely would not suspect anything of value being in the room (not near a casino, pretty run down, out in the boonies, etc.) I did happen to have the key in my pocket next to my cell phone all day so I believed her. This happened 5-6 years ago and I have made sure to have the key in a different pocket ever since; it has not happened again.
Quote: 1BBThey told us that if we had the room keys next to our cell phones the information on the magnetic strip could be wiped from the card.
BS or not, that's a great line, isn't it? It can't be decisively proven or disproven easily; Everyone has a cell phone, and the key card will have most certainly come into contact with the phone at some point during the stay. Plus, it shifts the blame back to the customer in a non-threatening and non-accusatory way.
Quote: 1BBAlways the skeptic, I'm not buying this but I don't have any knowledge in that area. I think we were accidentally checked out buy human error or a computer glitch. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
I'm with you on this one, 1BB.
Quote: 1BB...
Trivia question: In what very popular 1960s TV sitcom did the family live on Bonnie Meadow Road in New Rochelle, NY?
I have had that happen both ways. Most often, I've had key cards that become demagnetized, then either been able to use a second backup key card I got at check-in, or else had the registration desk simply issue a new one after showing them that I was in fact the registered guest. I always get a second keycard now, even though I'm usually the only one using the room. It is interesting that it was you and your wife, which I'm guessing involved two cards that were probably carried separately by each of you folks.Quote: 1BBMy wife and I spent a long weekend in Atlantic City and returned home last night. We didn't arrive in AC until late Saturday after deciding to spend time with friends in New Rochelle.
After jogging on the Boardwalk Sunday morning we returned to our room to find that our keys didn't work. After failing to get anyone on the house phone who could help we went to the front desk of this casino that shall remain nameless. All I could think of was the assaults on the Binn family and I filled my wife in on the way to the lobby.
She was a little apprehensive by the time we arrived at the desk but she needn't have been. The employees were very gracious, apologized profusely and bestowed us with generous comps for our troubles. They told us that if we had the room keys next to our cell phones the information on the magnetic strip could be wiped from the card. That's really why I'm relaying this story.
Always the skeptic, I'm not buying this but I don't have any knowledge in that area. I think we were accidentally checked out buy human error or a computer glitch. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Trivia question: In what very popular 1960s TV sitcom did the family live on Bonnie Meadow Road in New Rochelle, NY?
I've also had two instances (which is much fewer) that I can recall of them or their system screwing up on the dates of my stay or the location of my room. In one case that I thought was unusually remarkable a couple was checked into the same room I'd just checked into less than half an hour ago, which I discovered when my key didn't work and both the people who were now inside and I were all equally alarmed to discover that I was trying to get in while they were in there. It turned out some numbskull newbie at the desk had checked me out and then into a different room in their system on her own, for reasons I still can't fathom because I can't imagine how she thought that could possibly create a happy result for anyone, including her.
It happens. In really large hotel properties with thousands of rooms, I think it happens enough that it isn't any great shock, either way. I think it usually shouldn't become a big deal.
I failed your trivia question, and used Google.
I do think cell phones/tablets can demagnetize cards. It also seems much more likely to me that the computer burped or the clerk oopsed.
Oh, what else have you not heard, that conflicts with your opinion !
Quote: beachbumbabsI think it's cute that you asked the question about New Rochelle, because as soon as I saw that name, I flashed on that exact bit of trivia.
I do think cell phones/tablets can demagnetize cards. It also seems much more likely to me that the computer burped or the clerk oopsed.
A bit more information. My daughter was contemplating joining us for a night so we got three keys. All three did not work. It's the same type key we have used many times without incident. They even have the same logo and design that they've always had.
The street in New Rochelle is real but the number they used in the show is not. Every time we drive to the city my wife either hums or whistles the theme song to that show after the first sighting of a New Rochelle sign. She's done that forever. It's music to my ears. :-)
Quote: 1BBMy wife and I spent a long weekend in Atlantic City and returned home last night. We didn't arrive in AC until late Saturday after deciding to spend time with friends in New Rochelle.
After jogging on the Boardwalk Sunday morning we returned to our room to find that our keys didn't work. After failing to get anyone on the house phone who could help we went to the front desk of this casino that shall remain nameless. All I could think of was the assaults on the Binn family and I filled my wife in on the way to the lobby.
She was a little apprehensive by the time we arrived at the desk but she needn't have been. The employees were very gracious, apologized profusely and bestowed us with generous comps for our troubles. They told us that if we had the room keys next to our cell phones the information on the magnetic strip could be wiped from the card. That's really why I'm relaying this story.
Always the skeptic, I'm not buying this but I don't have any knowledge in that area. I think we were accidentally checked out by human error or a computer glitch. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Trivia question: In what very popular 1960s TV sitcom did the family live on Bonnie Meadow Road in New Rochelle, NY?
1BB,
My hotel room keys, AND my players cards, get wiped out all the time. I have been told that the magnetic stripe is not 'written' as strongly on the room keys, as it is on a credit card, so they are much more susceptible to being 'erased'.
I'm not sure my cell phone was doing it, as much as the small magnet that is in my money clip/credit card holder. The odd thing is, my credit cards are never affected by the magnet, but if I forget and put a room key or my TR card in the holder, it almost always gets wiped out.
The things you learn!
