DJTeddyBear
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June 1st, 2010 at 11:23:55 AM permalink
I was in Mohegan Sun this past weekend.

While walking around the Asian area, I noticed a mini (midi?) Bacarat table that was reserved and empty. It had a sign saying "Macau Style". I also saw an empty large / dogbone table that also said "Macau Style". I asked what that meant. Mind you it's loud in the casino, and I had a hard time understanding thru his accent, but I think he said that the person playing the player's hand has the OPTION of taking another card.

Is that right?

Unlike the guy in Third Base at a BJ that "Takes the dealer's bust card", it seems that this option can REALLY screw up the other players.

Then again, I don't play Bacarat, so I'm totally clueless on this...
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June 1st, 2010 at 12:48:38 PM permalink
That sounds to me like Chemin de Fer. Calling it "Macau style" baccarat I think is a misnomer. They play baccarat the same way in Macau as here, save sometimes for the use of promotional chips. Maybe they used to play that way in Macau. I think that is how baccarat was played everywhere not too long ago, but everyone hit the Player hand on 5 or less, so the casinos eventually dropped the pretext of offering a choice, and forced all the drawing rules. I'm not entirely sure of this, and welcome correction if I'm in error.
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DJTeddyBear
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June 1st, 2010 at 1:32:15 PM permalink
Hmmm... Interesting. Of course, if everyone hits on 5, why bother changing the rule to give them the choice?


I'm surprised they don't name it "James Bond Style" but I guess since they are targeting Asian gamblers, "Macau Style", even though incorrect, makes sense.


We're going again on 7/4, so I'll try to find a non-Asian to ask for more details.
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June 1st, 2010 at 1:58:08 PM permalink
Chemin-du-fer is a player-banked game, so it is highly unlikely they would offer it in a North American casino. Macau-style baccarat usually just means the players are allowed to handle the cards. No drawing decisions are involved.
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July 13th, 2010 at 1:10:02 PM permalink
What are EZ Baccarat and 21st century Baccarat (California Games)?
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August 12th, 2018 at 8:19:06 PM permalink
Anyone know of a commission'd bac with 1.24% player and 1.06% banker in CALIFORNIA?
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August 12th, 2018 at 9:46:40 PM permalink
It's probably just a reference to the popularity of the game in Macau, but apparently, (according to Wikipedia, at least) the precursor to Chemin-de-Fer was in fact a game also called Macau. In this game, each player had their own hand, with the name possibly deriving from the port where sailors learned it.
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August 13th, 2018 at 3:24:58 AM permalink
Quote: teddys

Chemin-du-fer is a player-banked game, so it is highly unlikely they would offer it in a North American casino. Macau-style baccarat usually just means the players are allowed to handle the cards. No drawing decisions are involved.


I agree that it probably means that the cards are dealt face down and you are allowed to squeeze them.
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August 13th, 2018 at 8:30:49 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Anyone know of a commission'd bac with 1.24% player and 1.06% banker in CALIFORNIA?

There is lots of EZ Baccarat, commission free (Ante free), in CA. Unfortunately, the Banker bet has a house edge of 1.02%, so it is not 1.06%, so it is a better game and you explicitly didn't ask for that. The Player bet is the same.

For example,

https://www.pcventura.com/california-games/

Now that I read your post again, I am not at all sure what you are asking for.
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August 14th, 2018 at 4:05:43 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

That sounds to me like Chemin de Fer. Calling it "Macau style" baccarat I think is a misnomer. They play baccarat the same way in Macau as here, save sometimes for the use of promotional chips. Maybe they used to play that way in Macau. I think that is how baccarat was played everywhere not too long ago, but everyone hit the Player hand on 5 or less, so the casinos eventually dropped the pretext of offering a choice, and forced all the drawing rules. I'm not entirely sure of this, and welcome correction if I'm in error.

Has anyone analyzed whether Chemin de Fer is a game that can be APíd with counting? I recognize Baccarat canít be as a practicable matter. But the draw decision in CdF might swing the analysis.
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