While walking around the Asian area, I noticed a mini (midi?) Bacarat table that was reserved and empty. It had a sign saying "Macau Style". I also saw an empty large / dogbone table that also said "Macau Style". I asked what that meant. Mind you it's loud in the casino, and I had a hard time understanding thru his accent, but I think he said that the person playing the player's hand has the OPTION of taking another card.
Is that right?
Unlike the guy in Third Base at a BJ that "Takes the dealer's bust card", it seems that this option can REALLY screw up the other players.
Then again, I don't play Bacarat, so I'm totally clueless on this...
I'm surprised they don't name it "James Bond Style" but I guess since they are targeting Asian gamblers, "Macau Style", even though incorrect, makes sense.
We're going again on 7/4, so I'll try to find a non-Asian to ask for more details.
Quote: teddysChemin-du-fer is a player-banked game, so it is highly unlikely they would offer it in a North American casino. Macau-style baccarat usually just means the players are allowed to handle the cards. No drawing decisions are involved.
I agree that it probably means that the cards are dealt face down and you are allowed to squeeze them.
There is lots of EZ Baccarat, commission free (Ante free), in CA. Unfortunately, the Banker bet has a house edge of 1.02%, so it is not 1.06%, so it is a better game and you explicitly didn't ask for that. The Player bet is the same.Quote: AhighAnyone know of a commission'd bac with 1.24% player and 1.06% banker in CALIFORNIA?
For example,
https://www.pcventura.com/california-games/
Now that I read your post again, I am not at all sure what you are asking for.
Has anyone analyzed whether Chemin de Fer is a game that can be AP’d with counting? I recognize Baccarat can’t be as a practicable matter. But the draw decision in CdF might swing the analysis.Quote: WizardThat sounds to me like Chemin de Fer. Calling it "Macau style" baccarat I think is a misnomer. They play baccarat the same way in Macau as here, save sometimes for the use of promotional chips. Maybe they used to play that way in Macau. I think that is how baccarat was played everywhere not too long ago, but everyone hit the Player hand on 5 or less, so the casinos eventually dropped the pretext of offering a choice, and forced all the drawing rules. I'm not entirely sure of this, and welcome correction if I'm in error.
Quote: gamerfreakI agree that it probably means that the cards are dealt face down and you are allowed to squeeze them.
i agree with this. only this makes it differrently Macau.
Quote: NokTang"Macau Style"...according to the various stories about the Phil Ivey incidents is simply at a mini table dealing all four cards out face down and the bettors being able to place wagers after said cards are on the table. In the Ivey(and Sun, his partner) games, they of course had had the high cards turned and once the shoe(auto shuffler) loaded up the fun began because of the card back being skewed?, whatever the word is, only the high value cards were turned and they could tell which hand held them and wager accordingly.
"Maucau style" is not a variation of baccarat, but it is a "style" where players can touch, bend, squeeze, crumble, fold, and in some cases tear the cards (I think tearing the cards is not allowed, but oftentimes the house "turn the other cheek" when this happened).
Quote: NokTang"Macau Style"...according to the various stories about the Phil Ivey incidents is simply at a mini table dealing all four cards out face down and the bettors being able to place wagers after said cards are on the table. In the Ivey(and Sun, his partner) games, they of course had had the high cards turned and once the shoe(auto shuffler) loaded up the fun began because of the card back being skewed?, whatever the word is, only the high value cards were turned and they could tell which hand held them and wager accordingly.
Correct. This name "Macau Style" is what Ivey and his partner made up in order to fool the casino management into thinking that what they were asking for was something that is normally done in other casinos. It was total garbage. The people who made the decision to allow Ivey to manipulate the game should have all been fired.
By the way, I am looking for a casino who can deal blackjack "Philadelphia Style". Dealer gets their cards both face up, and has to hit their hand out first before I make any decisions on my hand. Anyone know where I can play this game :)