what is this play worth
June 26th, 2014 at 6:52:19 AM
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bank of 6 machines - 25 dollar video poker 9-5 jacks or better
everytime somoneone at machine hits a jackpot you get an extra 100 dollars for the other machines so essentially each jackpot is worth 500 more for the team-
thoughts?
everytime somoneone at machine hits a jackpot you get an extra 100 dollars for the other machines so essentially each jackpot is worth 500 more for the team-
thoughts?
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
June 26th, 2014 at 8:43:25 AM
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anyone?
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
June 26th, 2014 at 9:17:31 AM
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100.54
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 26th, 2014 at 9:26:49 AM
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Quote: AxelWolf100.54
How are you getting that? I came up with 98.50. Wouldn't the only jackpots be the straight flush and royal? 20 extra coins for each.
Edit: Sorry, I read it as a $5 denom with a $25 bet.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 26th, 2014 at 9:31:35 AM
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100.5426%
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June 26th, 2014 at 9:57:14 AM
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I read it as a $25 denomination $125 per bet so the 4 of a kind would be a hand-pay as well. However even if you were correct and its a $5 denomination your answer would still be wrong(unless I'm missing something) because 9/6 jacks is 99.54 alone.Quote: DRichHow are you getting that? I came up with 98.50. Wouldn't the only jackpots be the straight flush and royal? 20 extra coins for each.
Edit: Sorry, I read it as a $5 denom with a $25 bet.
If this promotion is good on all machines (does not sound like it)personally I would look at other options.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 26th, 2014 at 9:58:47 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI read it as a $25 denomination $125 per bet so the 4 of a kind would be a hand-pay as well. However even if you were correct and its a $5 denomination your answer would still be wrong(unless I'm missing something) because 9/6 jacks is 99.54 alone.
If this promotion is good on all machines (does not sound like it)personally I would look at other options.
It is 9/5 JOB in the original post.
I get 99.45 with $25 denom
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 26th, 2014 at 10:13:41 AM
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promotion is good on all machines, I have some other plays with it, but they may not work as well, because smaller banks and also I believe the casino could interpret the definition of what a bank is to their favor
for instance there is 1dollar 10 play ultimate x- with 10 machines in the bank but they are bar top, im going to guess if I locked those up with ten players they would say its not a bank- thoughts?
for instance there is 1dollar 10 play ultimate x- with 10 machines in the bank but they are bar top, im going to guess if I locked those up with ten players they would say its not a bank- thoughts?
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
June 27th, 2014 at 1:45:34 AM
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Ah yes, I just assumed it 9/6.Quote: DRichIt is 9/5 JOB in the original post.
I get 99.45 with $25 denom
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 27th, 2014 at 1:47:56 AM
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VP only?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
June 27th, 2014 at 4:01:21 AM
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Oh woops, I did it on 9/6 JOB. For 9/5 JOB (paytable = 804, 54, 29, 9, 5, 4, 3, 2, 10 return is 99.44% using JOB optimal strategy (for 9/6 job).
If you can find a $10 machine, using JOB optimal strategy, your return would be 100.939%. Paytable is (810, 60, 35, 9, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1).
To maximize your edge, although I'm sure this is already straight forward, you want to find a game where you get a high frequency of hand pays. However, you want to try to play the lowest denom possible. Of course, these two are oppose each other, since you'll get higher frequency of handpays on higher denom machines. BUT, a $10 machine is much better than a $25 machine, because both require a 4OAK for the handpay and cannot be triggered below that.
On the other hand, if they have high enough denoms, you could potentially play a $50 denom or $100 denom machine...although I think that'd be extremely rare.
On a $50 machine (paytable is 802, 52, 27, 11, 7, 4, 3, 2, 1) your return would be 103.447%.
On a $100 machine (paytable is 801, 51, 26, 10, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1) your return would be 109.51% with just using optimal JOB strategy.
When I say "JOB optimal strategy" I mean the one posted on WoO's 9/6 Optimal Strategy. I do not mean a strategy that is optimized for this play.
Regarding the paytable, I just changed the paytable to take into account the $500 bonus. For example, on the $10 machine, a 4OAK usually pays $1,250. But with this promo it'd pay $1,750 ($1,250 hand-pay, then +$500 for others at the bank). $1750/$10 = 175 credits. And since you're betting 5 credits at a time, 175/5 = 35.
If you can find a $10 machine, using JOB optimal strategy, your return would be 100.939%. Paytable is (810, 60, 35, 9, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1).
To maximize your edge, although I'm sure this is already straight forward, you want to find a game where you get a high frequency of hand pays. However, you want to try to play the lowest denom possible. Of course, these two are oppose each other, since you'll get higher frequency of handpays on higher denom machines. BUT, a $10 machine is much better than a $25 machine, because both require a 4OAK for the handpay and cannot be triggered below that.
On the other hand, if they have high enough denoms, you could potentially play a $50 denom or $100 denom machine...although I think that'd be extremely rare.
On a $50 machine (paytable is 802, 52, 27, 11, 7, 4, 3, 2, 1) your return would be 103.447%.
On a $100 machine (paytable is 801, 51, 26, 10, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1) your return would be 109.51% with just using optimal JOB strategy.
When I say "JOB optimal strategy" I mean the one posted on WoO's 9/6 Optimal Strategy. I do not mean a strategy that is optimized for this play.
Regarding the paytable, I just changed the paytable to take into account the $500 bonus. For example, on the $10 machine, a 4OAK usually pays $1,250. But with this promo it'd pay $1,750 ($1,250 hand-pay, then +$500 for others at the bank). $1750/$10 = 175 credits. And since you're betting 5 credits at a time, 175/5 = 35.
