Tomspur
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March 25th, 2014 at 8:44:42 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

She wasn't telling the truth, for one thing. There
was no wise Chinaman telling her the secrets of
of the game ala Master PO. C'mon. She was up
to something. She was trying too hard, you could
see it in every post.



What makes you sure? Do you know her? Were you there when she spoke to the Chinese dude? Did you follow her around the casino?

In todays society we always see the worst in people, it is what we do.

Another thing that lead me to believe that she wasn't some kind of a chancer was that, as soon as someone called her out she defended herself and decided to leave on her own accord. How many times was JJ subtely insulted or accused of being whatever and she still managed to show up every day flaunting a new pic and what not.

This girl did none of those things. She had some things happen to her and she asked some questions about those things. She didn't seem to care about the guy hitting on her but she did seem to care if it could endanger his job.......

Come on Bob, sometimes a spade really is only a spade!
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March 25th, 2014 at 9:03:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

She wasn't telling the truth, for one thing. There
was no wise Chinaman telling her the secrets of
of the game ala Master PO. C'mon. She was up
to something. She was trying too hard, you could
see it in every post.



You think she's really JuicieJennie don't you ?
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March 25th, 2014 at 9:08:09 PM permalink
Amazing how some cats just seem to lose their heads and turn coconut the minute a woman arrives on the scene. Oh well, at least it provides for top quality entertainment. And hopefully, some day, jennie-baby will be given a reprieve so she can come back and liven the place up, hey hey!
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March 25th, 2014 at 9:14:33 PM permalink
Quote: soxfan

Amazing how some cats just seem to lose their heads and turn coconut the minute a woman arrives on the scene.



Happens in real life too. You should see the guys at my gym when a new female member starts coming. Like vultures they are.

Or a crowded barbershop when an attractive young mom strolls in with her son.
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March 25th, 2014 at 9:17:08 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Or a crowded barbershop when an attractive young mom strolls in with her son.



But what I'm thinking is the first thing out of the mouths of the dudes in the barbershop isn't...."oh here comes another single mom goldigger" or "watch out for her, she eats men after sex just like a pray mantis does".

I guess it is easier when slinging from behind a monitor
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March 25th, 2014 at 9:27:05 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

But what I'm thinking is the first thing out of the mouths of the dudes in the barbershop isn't...."oh here comes another single mom goldigger" or "watch out for her, she eats men after sex just like a pray mantis does".

I guess it is easier when slinging from behind a monitor



Good point.

Maybe it's because of how JJ turned out, but every new woman that tries to get involved here is immediately labeled a fraud, tease, bimbo, or all of the above. Each time a new female member posts, the Wizard welcomes her and says the board could use more women (I agree) and that's basically the last cordial response she sees.
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March 25th, 2014 at 9:36:23 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

What makes you sure?



Because I've seen that story on other boards
and it's always used by the person telling
it to gain cred. I've been going to casinos
since 1975 and have never seen anybody
talk even remotely like that. Yet on the
boards, why, they see them every day.

And she's so hot she has dealers asking
for her number. She was trying really
really hard to make us believe something,
that she was going to casinos and this
crap was happening. I'm not buying it.
Neither were a few others here.

Occam's Razor.
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March 25th, 2014 at 9:42:23 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Because I've seen that story on other boards
and it's always used by the person telling
it to gain cred. I've been going to casinos
since 1975 and have never seen anybody
talk even remotely like that. Yet on the
boards, why, they see them every day.

And she's so hot she has dealers asking
for her number. She was trying really
really hard to make us believe something,
that she was going to casinos and this
crap was happening. I'm not buying it.
Neither were a few others here.

Occam's Razor.



No offence Bob but you are making a ton of assumptions. How do you know she was "hot"? Just because a dealer hit on her? How do you know the dealer wasn't 70 and she was 65? Would that still classify as "hot" or elderly?

I agree that you guys have been burned, both here and at other forums. Some girls prey on the fact that you guys like gambling and probably enjoy looking at hot, younger girls. Does that mean that every girl here is the same way?

We have managed to run off JJ, Riva (I assume she was a girl but I have no way of proving that. If you guys do, then I apologize) and the latest now.

Where is babs? I haven't see her for a while either? Is she busy with her new game?

Just give the new people the opportunity to interact or to simply hang themselves. We will soon know.
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March 25th, 2014 at 10:54:48 PM permalink
It's like no one believes an attractive girl could possibly have the experience she just had. An attractive girl gets bored while her boyfriend plays poker, she wanders around the casino and watches some high roller, the high roller goes on a streak and thinks she's cute so lets a bet ride for her, she gets excited by the attention and the thrill of the game.

Does that REALLY sound THAT far fetched to people here? This situation probably happens once an hour in Vegas if not more. Hell probably half the people on this board would be lining up to be the one to let a bet ride for her. But nope, instead of making someone feel welcome, we belittle her because she's a little starstruck by the money and glitz that comes from gambling, especially in the high roller parts. We assume she's an idiot because she was charmed by some Asian man telling her Baccarat unfolds like a flower even though she said before that she understands the math behind it. But nope, we mock her and insult her to the point she ragequits the forums. Good job guys. You really showed her. I bet she really thinks all of you are really smart and amazing gamblers but is too intimidated by your searing wit and unmatched intellect.

I bet if she came in under some gender neutral screen name and edited her stories in a way that didn't identify her as an attractive female, there would not be 1% of the fuss, she wouldn't feel bullied, and someone wouldn't be suspended because they felt like being particularly rude to someone asking a somewhat naive but well intentioned question. Methinks if say I asked if unfolding baccarat cards like a flower would increase my EV, 2 people would say no, one person would make a joke and the thread would never be touched again.

But nope, everyone's rude behavior is somehow justified in their eyes because some person pulled their leg with some sultry stories a while back. Last I checked the suspension list was filled with far more salty grumpy gamblers than females that might be attractive, but no one seems to get too excited when a new one of them comes aboard.

It's a bummer we collectively had the manners of an awkward 12 year old boy going puberty, because I personally would have liked another person that had a similar gambling viewpoint to me.
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March 25th, 2014 at 11:16:43 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

No offence Bob but you are making a ton of assumptions. How do you know she was "hot"? Just because a dealer hit on her? How do you know the dealer wasn't 70 and she was 65? Would that still classify as "hot" or elderly?



Remember that Bob was also the one who predicted that JJ was not real and then became awfully quiet on the subject when it became clear that she was quite real.
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March 25th, 2014 at 11:20:03 PM permalink
Quote: ComplexEnigma



I bet if she came in under some gender neutral screen name and edited her stories in a way that didn't identify her as an attractive female, there would not be 1% of the fuss



Exactly. If she joined with a handle such as PAT, TERRY, BLAIR, or CASEY... we may still not have known what gender she was. She could've been a he, and the hot dealer who asked for his number could've been a female. Funny how quickly stereotypes are applied based only on someone's writing style.
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March 25th, 2014 at 11:35:31 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Remember that Bob was also the one who predicted that JJ



And where is she now? Nuked. I smelled a rat,
and I smell one here too. I'm not psychic, just
experienced. Almost the same thing..
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March 25th, 2014 at 11:41:00 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

And where is she now? Nuked. I smelled a rat,
and I smell one here too. I'm not psychic, just
experienced. Almost the same thing..



You predicted that she was not real. She was very real, and exactly who she said she was. She was nuked for doing exactly what she said that she did. You could not have been more wrong.
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March 25th, 2014 at 11:42:32 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

You predicted that she was not real. She was very real, .



And now she's very nuked. I stand vilified..
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March 25th, 2014 at 11:45:49 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

And where is she now? Nuked. I smelled a rat,
and I smell one here too. I'm not psychic, just
experienced. Almost the same thing..



Predicting that she is not real and predicting that she would attempt to fleece a person while gambling is not remotely the same thing.

Let me also just say this. Although I am sad that the regrettable interaction between the Wiz and JJ happened, she never misrepresented herself. We knew right from the beginning exactly who and what she was. She even told us exactly what was going on. Things took a turn for the worse when her and Wiz met but it could also have been a simple case of extreme miscommunication. Remember we don't have both sides of the story even though all of us have no reason to doubt the Wizard. Even Mike had said that his reaction and the whole thing was regrettable.

Let us just try our best to give people the benefit of the doubt before we start labelling them as something they may or may not be. We owe it to this forum and the Wizard to act with dignity, respect and decorum. Blindly attacking people because of what you perceive they meant in wirting is not the way to reflect what we have here.

People are going to make their intentions known and we can deal with the fallout then. Up until such a point, can we please stop nitpicking on the new people?
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March 25th, 2014 at 11:46:29 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

You predicted that she was not real. She was very real, and exactly who she said she was. She was nuked for doing exactly what she said that she did. You could not have been more wrong.



Typing at the same time

+10000000
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March 25th, 2014 at 11:52:02 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

Let us just try our best to give people the benefit of the doubt before we start labelling them as something they may or may not be.



The first Master Po story was weird. The second one
was just too much. Even the Wiz pounced on it
as pure nonsense. Did you miss that?
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March 25th, 2014 at 11:56:52 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The first Master Po story was weird. The second one
was just too much. Even the Wiz pounced on it
as pure nonsense. Did you miss that?



The old Chinese man story was a little far feteched but was it impossible???? I would have to say no.

Was it impossible that she was hit on by some dealer and wanted to know if he could get into trouble for talking to her? Absolutley not.

So her stories were nowhere near complete and utter fiction without looking at them through black covered lenses........
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March 26th, 2014 at 12:09:27 AM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

The old Chinese man story was a little far feteched but was it impossible?.......



I see things one way and you see them another.
And the world continues spinning.. Good night.
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March 26th, 2014 at 1:10:38 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I see things one way and you see them another.
And the world continues spinning.. Good night.

]

That was going to be my exact next response :)

Great minds do think alike
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March 26th, 2014 at 1:59:22 PM permalink
Quote: Face

C'mon, LarryS. You had this very conversation with Wiz just days ago...



Saying you can't call someone a name, then going on to say you can recognize said name, and then listing all the reasons you recognize them as said name, isn't within the spirit of the rules. They aren't there to tiptoe around, they are there to avoid. As is clear, it was a roundabout insult, and AnabelleT was insulted.

Not to mention the well known fact that Wiz holds the view that women are to receive even more respect and gentlemanly behavior than your average bloke.

You're a good poster with no infractions in almost a year. I hope you continue the good upon your return.

3 days.



He is clearly referring to her excessively dramatic behavior, as opposed to attempting to circumvent the insult rule. Whether he intended to use borderline terminology to cause a stir is questionable. It is also questionable whether anyone was genuinely offended, or whether dislike for the poster is behind the claim. A suspension like this makes me fear making contact with new members, or getting into a debate. One wrong move and zap.
He was askin for it tho based on other posts, IMO.
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March 27th, 2014 at 8:49:31 AM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

But what I'm thinking is the first thing out of the mouths of the dudes in the barbershop isn't...."oh here comes another single mom goldigger" or "watch out for her, she eats men after sex just like a pray mantis does".

I guess it is easier when slinging from behind a monitor



you are hilarious.....If a woman walked into a barbershop and sat in the waiting room and regaled the people there with a story of how the last time her son got a haircut, a nice married asian man gave her advice on haircuts, and gave her his phone number so they could talk priavely about haircuts, and then told us about the time when she was leaving a barber shop, one of the handsome haircutters came running after her to ask her on a date, and then follow that up with asking the people waiting if they think getting haircuts is "sexy"....afterall James bond was sexy and he had great haircuts. Personally I would think she was working the room.
Also last time she saw someone pay with a 50 dollar bill, and the cashier gave the man change of a 100 dollar bill, noticed the error and asked for the money back...can the cashier do that???? geez.

I know as soon as she posted this post.....a bunch of people started to close the shades, turned down the lights and started to hold themselves.
Me, Even bob, and others snapped our fingers and said "snap out of it".

Yes she covered all bases. She gave old married men hope of speaking to her on the phone, and assured the young ones that she was definately worth pursuing....because the person pursuing her was "handsome"....and afterall "handsome" people dont just run after ugly..

NEWSFLASH.....HER VERY NEXT NEW THREAD WAS...is gambling sexy. For someone who was just here to soak up knowledge about baccarat....it seems like with this thread her mind really wasnt on gambling.


Someone says that the reason she left so quickly proves she was a straight arrow. I say she was a player and did what a player does when they are exposed....goes away to the next mark

And if I am wrong...i am wrong....i only go by the evidence in front of me

I do apologize for implying she was an attention whore , I kind of figured that could be over the line. But since she nuked herself....I can say it now....if I wanted to.
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March 27th, 2014 at 9:13:57 AM permalink
She's left a note in her profile.

It's a sad state of affairs when the new females to the forum can't even make it to the "Please post a pic of yourself holding a WoV sign" stage.
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March 27th, 2014 at 9:20:56 AM permalink
Quote: Puckerbutt

She's left a note in her profile.

It's a sad state of affairs when the new females to the forum can't even make it to the "Please post a pic of yourself holding a WoV sign" stage.



OK, that was funny.

I had a thought. Anabelle had pretty thin skin. All, and I mean *all*, types of gambling is very cruel at times [bad beats and such]

Should a gambler have thick skin or otherwise just pick another form of recreation?
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March 27th, 2014 at 9:39:48 AM permalink
Thin skin or no, out of context or no, LarryS' logical assertions aside, she seemed genuinely hurt by the treatment both in here post stating such and in the profile note. And as an objective observer I'd have to agree. Very bad day when things go down like this.
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March 27th, 2014 at 9:47:22 AM permalink
Quote: LarryS

you are hilarious.....If a woman walked into a barbershop and sat in the waiting room and regaled the people there with a story of how the last time her son got a haircut, a nice married asian man gave her advice on haircuts, and gave her his phone number so they could talk priavely about haircuts, and then told us about the time when she was leaving a barber shop, one of the handsome haircutters came running after her to ask her on a date, and then follow that up with asking the people waiting if they think getting haircuts is "sexy"....afterall James bond was sexy and he had great haircuts. Personally I would think she was working the room.
Also last time she saw someone pay with a 50 dollar bill, and the cashier gave the man change of a 100 dollar bill, noticed the error and asked for the money back...can the cashier do that???? geez.

I know as soon as she posted this post.....a bunch of people started to close the shades, turned down the lights and started to hold themselves.
Me, Even bob, and others snapped our fingers and said "snap out of it".

Yes she covered all bases. She gave old married men hope of speaking to her on the phone, and assured the young ones that she was definately worth pursuing....because the person pursuing her was "handsome"....and afterall "handsome" people dont just run after ugly..

NEWSFLASH.....HER VERY NEXT NEW THREAD WAS...is gambling sexy. For someone who was just here to soak up knowledge about baccarat....it seems like with this thread her mind really wasnt on gambling.


Someone says that the reason she left so quickly proves she was a straight arrow. I say she was a player and did what a player does when they are exposed....goes away to the next mark

And if I am wrong...i am wrong....i only go by the evidence in front of me

I do apologize for implying she was an attention whore , I kind of figured that could be over the line. But since she nuked herself....I can say it now....if I wanted to.



Careful, Larry. Anabelle is a member in good standing. She last visited the forum yesterday so she seems to be keeping an eye on things. Say one little, offhanded thing and see how fast your name goes back to red.

I would not be surprised if there is a behind the scene movement to get her back. Juiciejennie's last visit was March 17th and I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for her to return either.
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March 27th, 2014 at 11:12:30 AM permalink
Quote: LarryS


And if I am wrong...i am wrong....i only go by the evidence in front of me


If you're wrong, you have done needless harm. I understand your suspicions, but the classier move would have been to give her the benefit of the doubt. When i first saw you on this forum, I thought you were a nut job obsessed with discrediting John Patrick, but I was wrong.
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March 27th, 2014 at 12:18:18 PM permalink
Some people tend to look down on women as hysterical, fragile, weak minded clueless people that need a break by the superior man.

Well there have been men here that have been treated equally as this women people are crying about.

maybe women arent generally built to carry 2 teenagers out if a burning building....and I would rather take my chance with the 250 lb muscular man. But on a message board....all is equal.

Most of the time, I have no idea if I am talking to men or women, nor do I care.

As you can see from her personal page she has the capability of writing cogent ideas. Yes women can put words together an defend themselves. They can do that as well and sometimes better than men.

She is a very good writer. She can come accross with her stories with words like "so cute' thrown in to make her seem like a child who needs the guidance of us men....so so innocent. And then she can write an essay on her profile that is adult-like with no sexual overtones. She can even create "by memory" a rambling quote by the old asian sage. Like I said.....very sophisticated when she wants to be.

If she was honest and came on the board and titled her thread "meeting men at the tables".....then that would be more honest than, this title.

If she was legit, she learned a good leasson about becoming an adult. If you are female, dress nice, are pretty, and flash a smile at the tables....you will have men eating out of your hand. And that may be what she is used to.

But on a message board.....that crap doesnt work....and it frustrates her....and those like her.

So she was not used to skepticism(in my opinion), she wasnt used to not being treated as the hot little item at the table......so I guess she may have been dissapointed when she poses a question on a thread titled"is gambling sexy".......and almost no one took her seriously. The answers were funny, and dismissive by many. And she probably never expected that. After all she was "serious"....supposedly.

I have been at tables in my life where someone was doing that routine ...and when some guy says something sarcastic like..."maybe when you get out of highschool" in a response to her acting over sexual or playing a game for attention......I would hear...."you are soooo mean".
A typical respose. Its not her......its YOU.
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March 27th, 2014 at 12:26:33 PM permalink
Quote: chickenman

Thin skin or no, out of context or no, LarryS' logical assertions aside, she seemed genuinely hurt by the treatment both in here post stating such and in the profile note. And as an objective observer I'd have to agree. Very bad day when things go down like this.



I just want to point out the name of the above poster.

nuff said
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March 27th, 2014 at 12:36:22 PM permalink
Quote: Puckerbutt

She's left a note in her profile.

It's a sad state of affairs when the new females to the forum can't even make it to the "Please post a pic of yourself holding a WoV sign" stage.



+1

The rush to judgment hurts us all.

People are shortsighted. (and for that I wear glasses to see pics better)
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
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March 27th, 2014 at 12:42:56 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

The rush to judgment hurts us all.



If only we could all just get along and be exactly
the same. If only our actions could please everybody.

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A beautiful day for a neighbor.
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?

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March 27th, 2014 at 12:44:40 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Careful, Larry. Anabelle is a member in good standing. She last visited the forum yesterday so she seems to be keeping an eye on things. Say one little, offhanded thing and see how fast your name goes back to red.

I would not be surprised if there is a behind the scene movement to get her back. Juiciejennie's last visit was March 17th and I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for her to return either.



Personally I dont care if either of the come back or not. But like the old saying that an asian man told me long ago "dont piss on my leg and tell me its raining".

If anyone wants to come here and roleplay..thats cool. If they want to play the role of a bimbo, sex addict, streetwalker, sex kitten, all american girl, weak victim.....its great....pick one and go for it.

Just be upfront, dont have a hidden agenda.

As long as they are treated as everyone else, with the same skepticism as anyone else. They are not frail weak mindless subhumans that need the help of us strong dominant mean scarey men. They can stand on their own 2 feet, stand up to detractors......to people who dont think gambling is sexy, .....to people who may not believe their stories.

Heck...there were pages of posts where people couldnt believe that I couldnt remember the name of a famous boxer. It went on and on. They were skeptical that i ever bet sports.....because how could someone who bets sports not know the name of that man.

So what.....I dealt with the skepticism. I fought back...even though the majority was on the other side.. Women are capable of doing that as well. They can form sentences. ...really.
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March 27th, 2014 at 1:08:46 PM permalink
Short Answer:
Yes and Yes.

Longer Answer:
Yes, you have to give back the money. Its a tribal casino, a tribal police force and a tribal jail and a tribal judge. You only can hire tribal lawyers. So you have to give back the money. The most you can ever do is protest, ask that they play back the tape to verify what happened and then tell you what their decision is. But you do indeed have to give it back when they ask for it.

Dealers and pretty young girls often do very well together, but its a casino, not a dating service. They are not supposed to ask for phone numbers and most casinos don't let them accept phone numbers either. One young lady saw something she liked at a craps table and wrote her name phone and hotel name on a slip of paper and gave it to the floor person. Floor person responded that he would not be able to give it to the dealer but would accidentally put in the form he would be handing the dealer at sign out time.

The casino wants to make money, not aid in relationships.

Do you remember the guy who was so tired he thought he was playing 21 when he was at the Baccarat table? That was fleastiff
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March 27th, 2014 at 1:26:48 PM permalink
Quote: AnabelleT

I would post my email so we could communicate outside of this forum, but that may not be a smart thing to do considering some. If anyone cares to talk about Baccarat outside of this forum PM me today. I won't be signing onto this site after tomorrow.


Please reconsider.
We have a few problem trolls on this forum and have had a few misunderstandings in the past.
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March 27th, 2014 at 1:41:07 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Please reconsider.
We have a few problem trolls on this forum and have had a few misunderstandings in the past.



Yeah, this is not just a bad place. You just have to learn who to avoid / ignore / silently mock.

Not that different from the real world, actually.
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March 27th, 2014 at 1:42:20 PM permalink
This thread made me think of the Cougarlife commercial with Elijah Wood. Now I can't get that stupid song out of my head.....
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March 27th, 2014 at 2:19:19 PM permalink
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If you're wrong, you have done needless harm. I understand your suspicions, but the classier move would have been to give her the benefit of the doubt. When i first saw you on this forum, I thought you were a nut job obsessed with discrediting John Patrick, but I was wrong.



thats a very valid way to call someone names and then retract it.

excellent.

just call the names....give a long list....and then say .."but I was wrong".

cool!!!!


"needless harm"........lighten up...this is a friggen message board.....she didnt drop out of school, she didnt leave the church, she didnt run away from home.....she voluntarily gave up a message board.
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March 27th, 2014 at 2:37:41 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

thats a very valid way to call someone names and then retract it.

excellent.

just call the names....give a long list....and then say .."but I was wrong".

cool!!!!


Larry,
In retrospect I can't disagree. My post was meant to insult and I apologize. I will begin serving a voluntary 3 day suspension.
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March 27th, 2014 at 3:13:25 PM permalink
Also, isn't Buzz the one who is always trying to discredit John Patrick?

Set achievable goals, I always say...
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March 27th, 2014 at 4:13:14 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Also, isn't Buzz the one who is always trying to discredit John Patrick?

Set achievable goals, I always say...



I thought it was his personal goal to discredit the use of infinite decks for doing quick calculations?
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March 27th, 2014 at 9:12:03 PM permalink
Seems the pretentiousness of her posts on the other site has made her hard to accept. I posted the link last page.

This time with a philosophy of gambling, from a book she has....if the wizard felt like puking yesterday...get a load of this one.

its sad..she should just be herself.....cut the crap about far eastern philosophy, cut the asian man advice, cut the story of being asked for a date, and polling the sexiness of gambling.....and stick to the subject she claims to want to pursue.....getting better at her game.

instead of quoting fortune cooking philosophies......she should read a couple books....and then come to a site armed with knowledge and specific questions

"how do you approach baccarat" too general.....

If she reads this...please educate yourself BEFORE relying on advice from strangers on a website. Ask specific questions. Share your knowledge...show you are making an effort and dont need to be spoonfed


As of yet I see no references to anyhting specific .....just general questions.

I think her current post and quote from a book....makes the asian man quote/story even more unbelievable. She had to have quoted it from a book rather than "from memory".
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March 27th, 2014 at 11:55:09 PM permalink
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/31/other-gambling-games/baccarat-your-approach-1429469/#post42669731



Odd, she got the same response there as she
got here. Shameful..
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March 28th, 2014 at 12:10:15 AM permalink
Quote: wudged

I thought it was his personal goal to discredit the use of infinite decks for doing quick calculations?



I'm torn between that and fighting world hunger.
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March 28th, 2014 at 12:21:15 AM permalink
Quote: LarryS

Seems the pretentiousness of her posts on the other site has made her hard to accept. I posted the link last page.

This time with a philosophy of gambling, from a book she has....if the wizard felt like puking yesterday...get a load of this one.

its sad..she should just be herself.....cut the crap about far eastern philosophy, cut the asian man advice, cut the story of being asked for a date, and polling the sexiness of gambling.....and stick to the subject she claims to want to pursue.....getting better at her game.

instead of quoting fortune cooking philosophies......she should read a couple books....and then come to a site armed with knowledge and specific questions

"how do you approach baccarat" too general.....

If she reads this...please educate yourself BEFORE relying on advice from strangers on a website. Ask specific questions. Share your knowledge...show you are making an effort and dont need to be spoonfed


As of yet I see no references to anyhting specific .....just general questions.

I think her current post and quote from a book....makes the asian man quote/story even more unbelievable. She had to have quoted it from a book rather than "from memory".


I'd say you've been way more critical of and tough on Anabelle than you were on even JuicieJennie.

In general, you are extremely demanding in regards to the females who join here. You expect them to speak a certain way (as in, not like a woman), act a certain way (they can be anything but girlie), and keep the content of their posts strictly to the subject at hand, no veering off (because that NEVER happens in a post created by males). Do you place these same demands and expectations on new male members as well? If I joined today and my first post included a mention of how many dead lifts I did at the gym this morning, or that I flirted with the cute girl who took my order at Starbucks, would you tell me I was going out of my way to sound manly?
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March 28th, 2014 at 1:53:21 AM permalink
I wonder when I will start to gather some wisdom and spout out haikus and wise sayings. Hopefully I won't be broke on a mini bac table and I will be ballin on a midi bac table.
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March 28th, 2014 at 4:23:37 AM permalink
Annabelle is betraying thin skin again at that other forum. In this case she clearly is objecting to a pretty lame assault on her sensibilities, on the order of interacting with someone who merely is gruff and blunt, rather than overtly trying to upset her. I think the poster was actually trying to help her in his somewhat churlish demeanor. She seems to be unable to handle dealing with "men unleashed" and unfortunately that is what you get with a gambling forum with anonymous posters. You couldn't dive deeper into free-basing testosterone.

I'm trying to think of any other women I have know very well who are like that, but I haven't been successful. I unabashedly like women - otherwise why would I care about this person? - but I have to say that this personality type I seldom get to know well. I seem to be able to offend them pretty quickly.
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March 28th, 2014 at 9:58:44 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

Annabelle is betraying thin skin again at that other forum. In this case she clearly is objecting to a pretty lame assault on her sensibilities, on the order of interacting with someone who merely is gruff and blunt, rather than overtly trying to upset her. I think the poster was actually trying to help her in his somewhat churlish demeanor. She seems to be unable to handle dealing with "men unleashed" and unfortunately that is what you get with a gambling forum with anonymous posters. You couldn't dive deeper into free-basing testosterone.

I'm trying to think of any other women I have know very well who are like that, but I haven't been successful. I unabashedly like women - otherwise why would I care about this person? - but I have to say that this personality type I seldom get to know well. I seem to be able to offend them pretty quickly.



I agree. I mused that at a table with a wink and a smile and a bunch of BS......she can have 5 men eating out of her hand. But on an anonymous message board with no visual of her to faun over......that stuff dont work.

Secondly, on a message board when something doesnt ring true....it makes one think...what other garbage is coming down the pike. At a table you kow you can put up with her for another hour and then never see her again.

yes shespoke all "girly" but then quoted a lengthy quote "from memory" that was spot on. That I knew she couldnt have made it up....but I was skeptical that she could memorize it from hearing it once.

Then on another site, she quotes another gem of wisdom...from "a book" she has. I figured it had to come from a book...who could quote all that from "memory". Lets face it..it all came from a book...including the asian man quote. A nice story though

rather pretentious.

On the other site she learned to leave off the stories about how hot she is with a "handsome" dealer running after her. And did away with the mysterious asian man giving out sage adivice.

But in the end...its not "a woman thing". All women arent going to come here and on the other site she is on.....stating all they want is to get info......and come up with these pretentious long winded personal "look at me" philosophies(i feel they are pretentious....someone else like the wizard might feel like puking). Its not a woman thing. At best its an immature thing. She is trying to seem more worldly, more popular, more sexual. than she really is. And when anyone sees through that.....they will respond accordingly.She was treated as someone playing "make believe" from me at the start. And she continued that behavior on the other site.

For me if I catch someone playng "make believe" with those "quotes".....they lose me going foward, and I am skeptical of anything else they say.

If a person who might be male gives a "trip report" and it doesnt ring true....I would call him on it as well.

Her post didnt ring true....whether she was a male or a female. (maybe a gay dealer ran after him and asked for a date).
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March 28th, 2014 at 10:52:14 AM permalink
It comes down to how you handle yourself. If you act like a teenager on facebook, don't be surprised if that's how you get treated. When a woman comes here to talk about gambling she's treated like everyone else. We have women here who never have a problem.

I could come on here as two different females and use two different styles. The first would post about gambling and Vegas and would never be bothered or made to feel uncomfortable. For the second, I would use some buzz words and innuendo and have some of the guys waiting on the casino steps to meet me before I could start the car.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
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March 28th, 2014 at 11:28:12 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

It comes down to how you handle yourself. If you act like a teenager on facebook, don't be surprised if that's how you get treated. When a woman comes here to talk about gambling she's treated like everyone else. We have women here who never have a problem.

I could come on here as two different females and use two different styles. The first would post about gambling and Vegas and would never be bothered or made to feel uncomfortable. For the second, I would use some buzz words and innuendo and have some of the guys waiting on the casino steps to meet me before I could start the car.



I agree. When I came to this board originally I had no idea who was a male.
Does the name 1BB or beethoven or Axiom, or many other indicate they are male.Before responding to people I didnt first wait to see if I could determine if they had a penis or vagina.

I guess though if you right off the bad indicate you are female....people think they are less able to communicate and need "understanding" and protection. There are some here that will be the knights in shining armour to protect the perceived weaker sex.

I dont buy that. I think women are more than capable, in fact as capable as men....and wont run away unless they are "playing" and get exposed.

I looked this morning at the link to the other site she is at, and people seem to sense the nonsense as well......man or women.....i would call the post out as I have before.
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