onenickelmiracle
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December 15th, 2013 at 3:41:57 PM permalink
In the movie Oceans 11(or one of them), they try having the casino shut down for not having enough cash on hand to pay their liabilities from the floor. It has been mentioned this is what did Binions in and forced them into a desperate situation having to sell off the WSOP.
What is the term for this rule? I am also interested in understanding how this rule affects slot, VP, and table games. Does it influence changing offerings to reduce the amount of cash the casinos would consider wasted? Are there any loop holes for the rule being used, do the bigger chains use one vault all the casinos controlled share?
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December 15th, 2013 at 4:32:59 PM permalink
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December 15th, 2013 at 4:49:38 PM permalink
I'm reading the book Grandissimo (the author was interviewed on Gambling With an Edge and it sounded interesting), and they talk about how broke Jay Sarno was by opening day in 1968 for Caesar's Palace. They only had $100,000 cash on hand against a full casino with a lot of high rollers and celebrities. They were scared stiff it would go against them, and at first they were in deep kimchi, but the house edge finally kicked in and they made enough to cover the winnings. But the book seemed to make it clear that, had the players won enough that the casino couldn't pay, they would've lost the whole place.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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December 15th, 2013 at 4:52:02 PM permalink
They only have to have enough cash to cover the chips that are out-
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
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December 15th, 2013 at 5:23:26 PM permalink
I think they also have to have enough to pay any slot jackpots.
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December 15th, 2013 at 5:28:32 PM permalink
This has been talked about here before. The "cash in the vault" thing is movies. They can have cash and cash equivalents in the bank. And IIRC Binions did not sell off the WSOP, the whole place was bought out in part to get it.

The only way I can see it affecting play offerings is at a small casino with a high roller. Suggested reading "Double or Nothing" regarding this.
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December 15th, 2013 at 5:32:00 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

And IIRC Binions did not sell off the WSOP, the whole place was bought out in part to get it.



Yep, the whole Horseshoe brand went to the Evil Empire, along with the WSOP rights.
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December 15th, 2013 at 5:32:46 PM permalink
Before it became Ameristar in Blackhawk, it was a Hilton casino. Actually locally owned and paying Hilton a fee to manage. What a joke. Opened 2 weeks late and had to close early first two weekends because not enough cash on hand.

Lily Belle's, around same time frame, was paying Resorts to manage it. Closed after 3 months and been closed 15-20 years later.
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