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varmenti
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October 1st, 2013 at 10:26:41 PM permalink
GR8Player - Where are you?

I've been reading your Threads and Posts and picked up on quite a few pointers. I'm hopping to keep updated on your future posts as I truly believe that you have a lot to offer (Useful Information, Tips, Tricks of the trade. I see your suspension ends on October 1st so Please continue to post. I like this forum best but keep in touch with me on other forums under username BacPro45.

If you're ever in Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada, Pop in the Fallsview Casino Baccarat Pit. I'm easy to find, Just look for the freaky Hyperactive guy playing Banker and Player at the same time Bouncing back and forth between 2-3 tables at a time. or ask any pit boss to point me out.

I hope to treat you to lunch sometime in the Casino's

Cheers!!!
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October 1st, 2013 at 10:33:23 PM permalink
gr8player & varmenti, huh?

I think we may have a match here, folks!!
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October 1st, 2013 at 10:38:31 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

gr8player & varmenti, huh?

I think we may have a match here, folks!!



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Does anyone know where he is from? or where he gambles?
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October 1st, 2013 at 11:14:47 PM permalink
Quote: varmenti

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Does anyone know where he is from? or where he gambles?

I was told he is from the Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada area but you can't believe everything your told on the internet.
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October 1st, 2013 at 11:18:31 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I was told he is from the Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada area but you can't believe everything your told on the internet.


Gee, what a coincidence. Isn't that where the OP is from too?
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varmenti
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October 1st, 2013 at 11:47:06 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Gee, what a coincidence. Isn't that where the OP is from too?



Who is OP?
and seriously guys, does anyone know what casino's gr8player plays at?
I've been waiting for him to get off of suspension almost a week now.

He provides very good information all though not to sure about his (Gr8player) betting techniques.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 2:38:56 AM permalink
I think he is from NY, NJ area.
He usually goes to Borgata in AC or Mohegan Sun in Connecticut.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 5:35:41 AM permalink
His suspension ended yesterday and I can see we are all on tenterhooks awaiting his next incisive bac analysis. Especially Gr8hoven9th ;-)

Edited to fix fat-fingering
varmenti
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October 2nd, 2013 at 5:49:48 AM permalink
Quote: chickenman

His suspension ended yesterday and I can see we are all on tenterhooks awaiting his next incisive bac analysis. Especially Gr8hoven9th ;-)

Edited to fix fat-fingering



from reading his threads I can see this guy is very knowledgeable and the kind of person one would want to keep in their "Back pocket"
I would like to discus many thoughts about Baccarat.

To many, the game is silly, but to those who know, the Game is Golden when it comes to Streaks/Runs, Bet Odds Closest to 50/50, Best Bet for Money Managers, ETC.

if you like collecting Hundred dollar bills and handling Large denomination chips, then Baccarat is your game starting from a very small Bank roll of 300-1000.00 you can walk out of the casino with 2-5000 on average days to 15-20,000 when you hit them runs of 13-15 Bankers/Player tables.

If you like lots of CASH, then you will love baccarat.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 5:59:03 AM permalink
RE: chickenman

LOL!


Quote: varmenti

from reading his threads I can see this guy is very knowledgeable and the kind of person one would want to keep in their "Back pocket"


Really? He is down $250,000 at baccarat. How much are you down?
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October 2nd, 2013 at 6:36:25 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

RE: chickenman

LOL!



Really? He is down $250,000 at baccarat. How much are you down?



you said this before in another thread, You need to have an understanding about being down money.
when you walk into the casino from day one and play 100.00 per visit and lose, win, lose win and so on, you will have to assume in 15 year of gambling (5475 days) x (100 per day) = 547,500.00 if you went every day for 15 years.

Now lets do some real math
(15 years going three times a week with a 1000.00 bank roll) = 1825 visits x 1000 = Risking 1,825,000 for the 15 years. therefore if he lost 250,000.00, that's peanuts that's like 15% of his bank roll.

Now do the same calculation where you win one day per month an average of 15000.00. I'll let you do the math on that.
let me know how you make out, if a loss or win. this is why I believe him if he says He wins all the time. because the winning day compliments many of his losing days.

As for me and my 18 years of Gambling on a professional level, I don't worry about counting my losing days because there are many, I Just keep a positive attitude and count the fluctuating stack of Hundred dollar Bills that come in from the Casino day after day.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 6:42:12 AM permalink
Quote: gr8varmenti

you said this before in another thread, You need to have an understanding about being down money.
when you walk into the casino from day one and play 100.00 per visit and lose, win, lose win and so on, you will have to assume in 15 year of gambling (5475 days) x (100 per day) = 547,500.00 if you went every day for 15 years.

Now lets do some real math
(15 years going three times a week with a 1000.00 bank roll) = 1825 visits x 1000 = Risking 1,825,000 for the 15 years. therefore if he lost 250,000.00, that's peanuts

Now do the same calculation where you win one day per month an average of 15000.00. I'll let you do the math on that.
let me know how you make out, if a loss or win. this is why I believe him if he says He wins all the time. because the winning day compliments many of his losing days.


I see that you're a little in slow, so let me spell it out for you: HE IS DOWN $250,000.

Translation: He's in the hole by $250K!!!

Do you understand now, gr8varmenti? *headshake*


Sincerely,
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October 2nd, 2013 at 6:44:29 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I was told he is from the Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada area but you can't believe everything your told on the internet.




Niagara Falls you say?
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October 2nd, 2013 at 6:52:37 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

I see that you're a little in slow, so let me spell it out for you: HE IS DOWN $250,000.

Translation: He's in the hole by $250K!!!

Do you understand now, gr8varmenti? *headshake*


Sincerely,
gr8beethoven



Beethoven9th, I've earned more than 3 million dollars playing Blackjack and roulette in 7 1/2 years and I have just a couple of rental properties and a few bucks in the bank to show for it. so therefore I can say, I've lost over 3 million dollars.
*headshake*

Beethoven9th, go have a cup of coffe and read the post again, and again, and as many times as it takes to understand the Losing side of Gambing. It doesn't have no impact on Professional gamblers.

Losing money on a professional level is a "System Requirement" because in the Casino world you gotta lose. you cant win all the time. This is why you need to listen to the pro'ss so you don't have to climb that big hill and battle it out losing everyday and then asking yourself what you did wrong and correct it for next visit. We did that already for you.

Get over the Loss and move on.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 6:59:03 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti


Now lets do some real math
(15 years going three times a week with a 1000.00 bank roll) = 1825 visits x 1000 = Risking 1,825,000 for the 15 years. therefore if he lost 250,000.00, that's peanuts that's like 15% of his bank roll.



It's only 15% of his bankroll if he actually had $1,825,000 unique dollars to wager. If he ever took the same money to the casino on more than one trip - a virtual certainty - that would increase the percentage of his bankroll that he lost.

For example: I have $1000. I go to the casino. I win $300. I now have $1,300 and I go home. I return to the casino with $1000 and I win $200. I now have a total of $1,500. I go home. I return to the casino with $1000, lose it, and go home. I have lost $1,000 of my $1,500, which is 66% of my bankroll. Your method would call this a 33% loss: $1000 loss/(3 trips * $1000/trip).
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October 2nd, 2013 at 7:02:59 AM permalink
Quote: gr8varmenti

Beethoven9th, I've earned more than 3 million dollars playing Blackjack and roulette in 7 1/2 years and I have just a couple of rental properties and a few bucks in the bank to show for it. so therefore I can say, I've lost over 3 million dollars.
*headshake*

Beethoven9th, go have a cup of coffe and read the post again, and again, and as many times as it takes to understand the Losing side of Gambing. It doesn't have no impact on Professional gamblers.

Losing money on a professional level is a "System Requirement" because in the Casino world you gotta lose. you cant win all the time. This is why you need to listen to the pro'ss so you don't have to climb that big hill and battle it out losing everyday and then asking yourself what you did wrong and correct it for next visit. We did that already for you.

Get over the Loss and move on.


gr8varmenti,

Umm, is your head stuck in.....aw, forget it.

But do you understand what "in the hole" means in the context of gambling???


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October 2nd, 2013 at 7:10:21 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti



Beethoven9th, I've earned more than 3 million dollars playing Blackjack and roulette in 7 1/2 years and I have just a couple of rental properties and a few bucks in the bank to show for it. so therefore I can say, I've lost over 3 million dollars.
*headshake*



You have now said, in your short time on this forum, that you've been a professional gambler since the '90s, that you've made more than $3MM in the last 7.5 years, and that you've only been winning at bacc for the past few months. It's hard to find a set of circumstances under which these statements can possibly all be true.

You also don't seem to understand that, in discussions about "making" money, it's the NET amount that matters; but that's another issue entirely.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 7:34:00 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

You have now said, in your short time on this forum, that you've been a professional gambler since the '90s, that you've made more than $3MM in the last 7.5 years, and that you've only been winning at bacc for the past few months. It's hard to find a set of circumstances under which these statements can possibly all be true.

You also don't seem to understand that, in discussions about "making" money, it's the NET amount that matters; but that's another issue entirely.



I don't even want to waste my time to detail this information, I just said in a previous post I DON'T CARE to Knowledge myself with LOSES. why did I even bring it up, I should have expected the member would come back out and Bite me in the Butt.

gambling since 1996 do the math,i'm to tired to have to explain all the side stuff and drift off topic.

It's 10:30 am est time and I'm going to the Casino now, Bye everyone.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 7:51:36 AM permalink
Quote: varmenti

I don't even want to waste my time to detail this information, I just said in a previous post I DON'T CARE to Knowledge myself with LOSES


No wonder why you always "win". I'd always win too if I didn't factor in any of my losses.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 7:52:41 AM permalink
What's so funny about this Vermanti person is, he heaps claims
upon claims now, yet doesn't seem to know even the basics about
gambling. His whole mission here is about him proving to us that
he wins. Who does this except an extreme newbie. Maybe he'll post
,more pics of him fondling money in his car and we'll all be convinced.

And Gr8 is his hero? Really? Gr8?
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October 2nd, 2013 at 9:36:34 AM permalink
Hello, Varmenti. And greetings, as well, to all of our esteemed members.

I was unable to respond to the various requests because of my suspension that ended yesterday.

Hmmm....my second such suspension from our administrator, Mission146. Great work, my friend...keeping this forum safe from the likes of me. I pride myself in my comportment as a gentleman of respect, both for myself and others, and yet I'm treated as a mere rogue around here. In every single forum that I've ever joined, with only one exception, I was asked to become a Moderator for the forum. But here, I'm more likely to be censured at best and even banned at worst. But, carry on, Mission146; dare I say I just might want to discuss my Baccarat plays and theories here yet again, your nonsensical personal judgments notwithstanding....to wit: "I am banning Gr8Player pursuant to a liberal construance of Rule 5..." are you for real???? I could point out countless posts of disrespect and outright maliciousness in this very forum, all conveniently swept under the rug depending, of course, upon the object of said ire, but I'm cited and suspended for "liberal construance of Rule 5"!!!! No hidden agenda against me, right, Mission146? I've said it before and it certainly bears repeating: I am nobody's fool.

Shame on this forum for an outright misjudgment in so very many ways....
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October 2nd, 2013 at 9:47:27 AM permalink
My teacher is back! Yay!

Teacher, I need to know something very, very important: Did you win back the $250,000 that you lost at baccarat?
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October 2nd, 2013 at 9:58:55 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Hello, Varmenti. And greetings, as well, to all of our esteemed members.

I was unable to respond to the various requests because of my suspension that ended yesterday.

Hmmm....my second such suspension from our administrator, Mission146. Great work, my friend...keeping this forum safe from the likes of me. I pride myself in my comportment as a gentleman of respect, both for myself and others, and yet I'm treated as a mere rogue around here. In every single forum that I've ever joined, with only one exception, I was asked to become a Moderator for the forum. But here, I'm more likely to be censured at best and even banned at worst. But, carry on, Mission146; dare I say I just might want to discuss my Baccarat plays and theories here yet again, your nonsensical personal judgments notwithstanding....to wit: "I am banning Gr8Player pursuant to a liberal construance of Rule 5..." are you for real???? I could point out countless posts of disrespect and outright maliciousness in this very forum, all conveniently swept under the rug depending, of course, upon the object of said ire, but I'm cited and suspended for "liberal construance of Rule 5"!!!! No hidden agenda against me, right, Mission146? I've said it before and it certainly bears repeating: I am nobody's fool.

Shame on this forum for an outright misjudgment in so very many ways....

perhaps he just doesn't like you...that must be it
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October 2nd, 2013 at 10:21:38 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

perhaps he just doesn't like you...that must be it



You're probably right, AxelWolf.

Neither do you, nor EvenBob, nor Beethoven9th for that matter. Just because I don't respond to certain posts doesn't mean I haven't read them, and I'm not impervious to them. It stinks...some of the treatment around here.

And for what reason? Towards what goal?

When we don't communicate, on a reasonable level, we all lose. And, as all you guys know by now, I don't take losing lightly.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 10:29:26 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player

You're probably right, AxelWolf.

Neither do you, nor EvenBob, nor Beethoven9th for that matter.

What?!?! How in the world can I dislike the world's foremost expert on everything baccarat???


Quote: gr8player

I'm not impervious to them..

And, as all you guys know by now, I don't take losing lightly.

But, teacher, you must take it lightly since you've lost $250,000 at baccarat. If you can lose $250K and keep on gambling, then you must be very, very, VERY impervious! And I admire that greatly!
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October 2nd, 2013 at 11:04:49 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player

You're probably right, AxelWolf.

Neither do you, nor EvenBob, nor Beethoven9th for that matter. Jubecause I don't respond to certain posts doesn't mean I haven't read them, and I'm not impervious to them. It stinks...some of the treatment around here.

And for what reason? Towards what goal?

When we don't communicate, on a reasonable level, we all lose. And, as all you guys know by now, I don't take losing lightly.

Now hold on, I never said I didn't like you, in fact I think your probably a nice guy and shouldn't have been suspended. mission is just a big scary brut.
Mr. Ban hammer. I'm quite sure he has sharp teeth and claws, who never sleeps, just waiting for his chance to ban us all at a moments notice. He probably dreams of the day he can ban the wizard.

I can't speak for Bob however, I don't think he likes anyone. I thought gr8beehtoven loved you, I felt a romance comming on.

I Razz you a bit only because,
I just don't know how you can be smarter then some of the most brilliant minds in the world, who use both math and logic to explain why it's impossible for you to have a proven winning system or method. God or the devil himself won't even gamble on bacrrat systems.

Once agian I have nothing against you and I'm not against you playing your own money on any systems you choose. I would like you to back up your statements with a bit more evidence.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 2nd, 2013 at 11:32:24 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I Razz you a bit only because,
I just don't know how you can be smarter then some of the most brilliant minds in the world, who use both math and logic to explain why it's impossible for you to have a proven winning system or method. God or the devil himself won't even gamble on bacrrat systems.



Smarter? Oh, I don't think so...

But I'm not sure that it has anything to do with "smarts". Those "brilliant minds" are doing nothing more than a multiplication task: they are multiplying the net payout against the probability and are coming up with a negative number. Great. Good for them. Frankly, I wouldn't have expected anything less...after all, isn't the casino paying the rent, dealers, lights, etc.??? I don't begrudge them their house edge.

But I also happen to believe that it is, with the proper manipulation of both bet selection and bet size, surmountable.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 11:45:31 AM permalink
" I am nobody's fool. " Then why are you acting like one, questioning Mission's integrity ?
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October 2nd, 2013 at 12:09:22 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player



Neither do you, nor EvenBob, nor Beethoven9th for that matter.



Nope, haven't liked you since way back years
ago on GG. Quit losing sleep over it. Very few
people like you.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 12:22:38 PM permalink
varmenti: "As for me and my 18 years of Gambling on a professional level, I don't worry about counting my losing days because there are many, I Just keep a positive attitude and count the fluctuating stack of Hundred dollar Bills that come in from the Casino day after day."

This just keeps getting better and better. Another absurd assertion by a self-professed "professional gambler." Using varmenti's math system, I did a quick recalculation of my gambling results over the past 15 years and find that I'm up about $250,000, and not down almost $50,000 under old school conventional math. Geez, I didn't realize that I had been so successful over the years.

Varmenti, you appear to be a nice guy and truly sincere in your desire to help people win at gambling. I applaud you for that. One thing you are not, however, is a professional gambler. If you were, you wouldn't make ridiculous claims such as conly count wins and ignore losses, insure an 18 against a dealer Ace in blackjack, and casinos have central servers to control how much money is won at slots on any given day. These are the kind of comments one expects to hear from noobs, not professionals.

Counting your gambling wins and ignoring your losses is an indicator not of a professional, but of someone who has a real gambling addiction problem. At the casino every day for the past 25 years. Really? There's nothing else in life that interests you? Why do you feel the need to go to the casino every day? Just wondering.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 12:22:55 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Nope, haven't liked you since way back years
ago on GG. Quit losing sleep over it. Very few
people like you.



Your dog doesn't like you EvenBob......your dog hated you from day one
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October 2nd, 2013 at 12:29:42 PM permalink
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Your dog doesn't like you EvenBob......your dog hated you from day one



Hell, I bet you kick your dog when gold prices go down.....
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October 2nd, 2013 at 1:05:33 PM permalink
Quote: treetopbuddy

Hell, I bet you kick your dog when gold prices go down.....



Wow, there's many people in the world that dislike Bob, I'm sure. Many people Bob dislikes as well.

But saying his dog doesn't like him and that he kicks his dog... that's low... real low...
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
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October 2nd, 2013 at 1:08:51 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Wow, there's many people in the world that dislike Bob, I'm sure. Many people Bob dislikes as well.

But saying his dog doesn't like him and that he kicks his dog... that's low... real low...



You have now idea how low I can go.....that is the Girl Scout version
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thecesspit
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October 2nd, 2013 at 1:43:46 PM permalink
Quote: treetopbuddy

You have now idea how low I can go.....that is the Girl Scout version



That is nothing to be proud off. I am sure I can sink to such depths, if I felt like it. Wouldn't impress anyone much.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 1:45:15 PM permalink
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That is nothing to be proud off. I am sure I can sink to such depths, if I felt like it. Wouldn't impress anyone much.



No, you can't go were I can go......not even close
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October 2nd, 2013 at 1:48:00 PM permalink
Quote: treetopbuddy

No, you can't go were I can go......not even close



Well that's a pissing contest I am happy not to even try an partake in. Well done. You win a cookie.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 1:53:50 PM permalink
Cesspitt, after Sunday I will be looking at you in the rearview mirror on the NFL pool.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 1:55:33 PM permalink
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Cesspitt, after Sunday I will be looking at you in the rearview mirror on the NFL pool.



Probably... I know I'm lucky rather than good.

Though winning a parlay this weekend on my picks was nice. I might take your picks to the bookies this week instead :)
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October 2nd, 2013 at 2:04:08 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Well that's a pissing contest I am happy not to even try an partake in. Well done. You win a cookie.



You have the insight to know when your overmatched......to that I congratulate you....
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October 2nd, 2013 at 2:28:44 PM permalink
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But I also happen to believe that it is, with the proper manipulation of both bet selection and bet size, surmountable.



This would only be true if you knew you had an advantage when you increased your bet size. Do you know exactly when you are playing at an advantage during each shoe?


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EvenBob
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October 2nd, 2013 at 2:31:37 PM permalink
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This would only be true if you knew you had an advantage when you increased your bet size. Do you know exactly when you are playing at an advantage during each shoe?


ZCore13



He can't know, because then he'd have an identifiable edge, and he doesn't.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 2:51:00 PM permalink
EvenBob, if you don't mind, please refrain from any attempts at speaking for me, as I much prefer my truth over your triviality. Your purpose in this forum is well-documented, mostly by your very own hand; you've made your bed, now you must lie in it.

Zcore13, hello, my friend. I hadn't seen a post from you for quite a while, I trust all is well with you.

While I must defer and answer with a "no" as to "knowing exactly when I'm at an advantage", I have a very good idea of same. You see, I could never be certain, for this game has no room for any certainty on the player's part.

But, that said, I do have certain statistics that would point out certain "maneuvers" (both bet selection- and size-wise) as both viable and potentially profitable plays. And I play for them consistently. I never waver as I play to my statistics.

I've been wrong and I've been right. I take my lumps in the former and revel in the latter, and, either way, I adjust it all over again. I am forever making adjustments based upon certain statistics of mine.

And, can you see, Zcore13, I'm attempting to stay but a few steps ahead. I'm not looking to hit the lottery with my play. But I insist on success, or I will put my pen down for good. There is no middle ground....every year I get my results from each casino that I play in, and that number had better be positive. I've better things to do with my time than drive 6 hr round trips in a day and a half after working my full-time job....if it all didn't pay I wouldn't play. Simple as that.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 2:54:43 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

EvenBob, if you don't mind, please refrain from any attempts at speaking for me, as I much prefer my truth over your triviality. Your purpose in this forum is well-documented, mostly by your very own hand; you've made your bed, now you must lie in it.

Zcore13, hello, my friend. I hadn't seen a post from you for quite a while, I trust all is well with you.

While I must defer and answer with a "no" as to "knowing exactly when I'm at an advantage", I have a very good idea of same. You see, I could never be certain, for this game has no room for any certainty on the player's part.

But, that said, I do have certain statistics that would point out certain "maneuvers" (both bet selection- and size-wise) as both viable and potentially profitable plays. And I play for them consistently. I never waver as I play to my statistics.

I've been wrong and I've been right. I take my lumps in the former and revel in the latter, and, either way, I adjust it all over again. I am forever making adjustments based upon certain statistics of mine.

And, can you see, Zcore13, I'm attempting to stay but a few steps ahead. I'm not looking to hit the lottery with my play. But I insist on success, or I will put my pen down for good. There is no middle ground....every year I get my results from each casino that I play in, and that number had better be positive. I've better things to do with my time than drive 6 hr round trips in a day and a half after working my full-time job....if it all didn't pay I wouldn't play. Simple as that.



EvenBob is brillant......the idea of challenging such brilliance is unspeakable.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 2:55:49 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

But I insist on success, or I will put my pen down for good. There is no middle ground....every year I get my results from each casino that I play in, and that number had better be positive.


But teacher, I don't understand? You've already lost $250,000 at baccarat, yet you're still playing! There must be some sort of mistake, right?
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October 2nd, 2013 at 3:00:09 PM permalink
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But teacher, I don't understand? You've already lost $250,000 at baccarat, yet you're still playing! There must be some sort of mistake, right??



Hey, hall monitor....why don't you..........
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October 2nd, 2013 at 3:15:02 PM permalink
From the thread on Archie Karas being busted for marking cards:
"Karas set the record for the largest and longest documented winning streak in gambling history from 1992 to 1995, arriving in Las Vegas with $50 in his pocket and going on to amass $40 million from high-stakes poker.

He subsequently lost most of those winnings at baccarat and dice games in three weeks, according to Tom Sexton, who publishes the online gambling magazine Poker News."

Too bad Archie didn't know any baccarat or dice experts back then to help him out. I'm sure gr8player and varmenti could have helped him turn $40 million into $400 million. And Ahigh could have helped him with his dice play.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 3:17:28 PM permalink
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From the thread on Archie Karas being busted for marking cards:
"Karas set the record for the largest and longest documented winning streak in gambling history from 1992 to 1995, arriving in Las Vegas with $50 in his pocket and going on to amass $40 million from high-stakes poker.

He subsequently lost most of those winnings at baccarat and dice games in three weeks, according to Tom Sexton, who publishes the online gambling magazine Poker News."

Too bad Archie didn't know any baccarat or dice experts back then to help him out. I'm sure gr8player and varmenti could have helped him turn $40 million into $400 million. And Ahigh could have helped him with his dice play.



Hey, Pabo.....I bet your a 5 dollar bettor....if you actually bet.
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October 2nd, 2013 at 3:18:35 PM permalink
Hello, TTB, how are you?

Relax, my friend...don't let those two foolers get to you, for they are fooling nobody with their antics.

And you know what the "kicker" is, treetopbuddy? I'll probably get nailed by my favorite admin with a suspension before they ever will. How's that for justice, TTB?

Stay well, my friend,
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October 2nd, 2013 at 3:23:35 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

I'll probably get nailed by my favorite admin with a suspension before they ever will. How's that for justice, TTB?


But please follow the rules this time, teacher. NOBODY wants to see the world's foremost expert in everything baccarat leave this forum!
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