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September 17th, 2013 at 9:03:46 PM permalink
Can anyone run a simulation over let's say 100k hands if which one of these hands would have better results. Qq22456. Vs. 56789kq. Both hands are non suited and assuming they are both played house way. Of. Qq456. 22. And 56789. Kq. Thanks guys especially Paigow dam
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September 17th, 2013 at 9:48:26 PM permalink
Everyone sleeping?
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September 17th, 2013 at 10:13:33 PM permalink
I'm not, but I don't have the math skills to run the sim. However, assuming you're not playing a bonus, I think the QQ 22 is going to be a better hand by 3-5% on wins, and the KQ will have significantly more pushes. So, higher variance on the first but overall better pay. There; worse than no answer, wasn't it, getting a swag? (Kidding; interesting question).
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September 18th, 2013 at 12:22:39 AM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

Both hands are non suited and assuming they are both played house way. Of. Qq456. 22. And 56789. Kq.
Thanks guys especially Paigow dam

Try
PAI GOW POKER STRATEGY CALCULATOR
http://www.beatingbonuses.com/pgpcalc.htm

It is EV based
I do remember looking into this calc and
comparing it to some data I had a few years ago.
IIRC, seemed to be accurate at that time.

It is JavaScript so it looks like one
could change the house way if JS is your thing.

hope this can help (not the sim you be looking for)
unless you want more about win/loss/push etc

forgot about
Pai Gow Poker Power Ratings
https://wizardofodds.com/games/pai-gow-poker/appendix/1/
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September 18th, 2013 at 7:40:59 AM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

Everyone sleeping?


Seriously???

You're asking Simone to run a comlex simulation, and expect results in under 45 minutes?
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September 18th, 2013 at 8:07:52 AM permalink
Sorry didnt think about that part
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September 18th, 2013 at 8:14:07 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Seriously???

You're asking Simone to run a comlex simulation, and expect results in under 45 minutes?



Yeah, I marveled at that myself, not that I have the skills to do it. The level of excellence on this forum has led to some amazing expectations, realistic or not; this was posted around midnight eastern last night.
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September 18th, 2013 at 8:19:35 AM permalink
Using WoO Pai Gow Poker Power Ratings:
QQ456 22 has an EV of 0.299726722588
56789 KQ has an EV of 0.35078665948125
Edit: pasted EVs in wrong.
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September 18th, 2013 at 8:20:59 AM permalink
" The level of excellence on this forum has led to some amazing expectations, realistic or not; "

Does this mean we might reconcile, babs ?
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September 18th, 2013 at 8:40:14 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

Try
PAI GOW POKER STRATEGY CALCULATOR
http://www.beatingbonuses.com/pgpcalc.htm

It is EV based
I do remember looking into this calc and
comparing it to some data I had a few years ago.
IIRC, seemed to be accurate at that time.

It is JavaScript so it looks like one
could change the house way if JS is your thing.

hope this can help (not the sim you be looking for)
unless you want more about win/loss/push etc

forgot about
Pai Gow Poker Power Ratings
https://wizardofodds.com/games/pai-gow-poker/appendix/1/


The data from beating bonuses is from the WoO power ratings. They just use JavaScript to calclule the EV for each way to set the hand and show the highest one.
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September 18th, 2013 at 9:06:13 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

Using WoO Pai Gow Poker Power Ratings:
QQ456 22 has an EV of 0.35078665948125
56789 KQ has an EV of 0.299726722588



Nailed it! Wow. Cool tool. I missed that my first time through the site. A must-see, thanks miplet and the Wiz!
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September 18th, 2013 at 9:09:08 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

The data from beating bonuses is from the WoO power ratings.
They just use JavaScript to calclule the EV for each way to set the hand and show the highest one.

Yeah, I had more awake time to look at that calc.
Simple enough

edit
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September 18th, 2013 at 9:11:27 AM permalink
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" The level of excellence on this forum has led to some amazing expectations, realistic or not; "

Does this mean we might reconcile, babs ?



Buzzard, you have a permanent kitchen pass from me. You iz whut you iz.
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September 18th, 2013 at 9:25:18 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

Yeah, I had more awake time to look at that calc.
Simple enough

Looks like you did flip the results you posted


Yep. I did. Fixxed it :+) Thanks
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September 18th, 2013 at 9:29:54 AM permalink
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Yep. I did. Fixxed it :+) Thanks



RATS! You wiped the smug right off my mug! lmao....
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September 18th, 2013 at 2:10:58 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: miplet


QQ456 22 has an EV of 0.35078665948125
56789 KQ has an EV of 0.299726722588


Nailed it! Wow.

Look again
made you look
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September 18th, 2013 at 2:13:44 PM permalink
Quote: 7craps

Look again

made you look



see above your post. over. lol...
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September 18th, 2013 at 2:17:28 PM permalink
" Buzzard, you have a permanent kitchen pass from me. You iz whut you iz. "

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