Las Vegas: Out Of Ideas
March 20th, 2013 at 5:20:28 PM
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Las Vegas has officially run out of ideas. (I'm the official that decides). Clark County may approve a new Ferris Wheel somewhere just across the street, South of Planet Hollywood on the strip. If you're counting, that's three Ferris wheels, non of which are yet open, within a couple of miles of each other.
Colossal Fail!
If you had 50 million dollars burning a hole in your pocket, what would you build in that space that might actually make money?
Colossal Fail!
If you had 50 million dollars burning a hole in your pocket, what would you build in that space that might actually make money?
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 20th, 2013 at 5:27:38 PM
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I thought the project for the one across from Luxor was already shuttered. No? Who would build a third?
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March 20th, 2013 at 5:39:08 PM
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Two mob museums one of which failed.
Two phantom Ferris wheels one of which failed.
Nightclubs, Dayclubs, PoolClubs, ... anything at all except a casino!
Two phantom Ferris wheels one of which failed.
Nightclubs, Dayclubs, PoolClubs, ... anything at all except a casino!
March 20th, 2013 at 5:40:59 PM
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Quote: s2dbakerIf you had 50 million dollars burning a hole in your pocket, what would you build in that space that might actually make money?
This is their chance to make A STATEMENT, to put the city on the world's consciousness for something other than whales, buffets and porn slappers.
I suggest they do something symbolic, something with national meaning.
Something akin to the Washington Monument, or the Statue of Liberty.
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March 20th, 2013 at 6:18:40 PM
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OK, here's the statement I'd like to see:
- Hey, we're Vegas and we're about gambling.
So now every Strip Casino has to have at
least a dozen full pay ( not 100 % ) video
poker machines at the 25 cent level.
- Hey, we're Vegas and we're about gambling.
So now every Strip Casino has to have at
least a dozen full pay ( not 100 % ) video
poker machines at the 25 cent level.
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There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
March 20th, 2013 at 6:45:54 PM
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This is funny in a way since NYNY has a Statue of Liberty and Luxor has the strip sign that resembles the Washington Monument. Not mentioned is Paris which has the awful tower.Quote: MrVSomething akin to the Washington Monument, or the Statue of Liberty.
So here's my brainstorm:
Step 1: Identify your target market and list legal things for which they would be willing to pay.
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 20th, 2013 at 6:53:01 PM
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OK, I've thought of another one:
How can they get the airfare prices from
the rest of the country back down to a
reasonable level ? ? ?
I think this will be one of the things that
puts the hurt on LV if the prices stay the
way they have been lately.
Just sayin'.
It's getting way too easy to just go the
the casino that has just opened nearby
or in the next state over.
How can they get the airfare prices from
the rest of the country back down to a
reasonable level ? ? ?
I think this will be one of the things that
puts the hurt on LV if the prices stay the
way they have been lately.
Just sayin'.
It's getting way too easy to just go the
the casino that has just opened nearby
or in the next state over.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
March 20th, 2013 at 7:22:29 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQOK, I've thought of another one:
How can they get the airfare prices from
the rest of the country back down to a
reasonable level ? ? ?
I think this will be one of the things that
puts the hurt on LV if the prices stay the
way they have been lately.
Just sayin'.
It's getting way too easy to just go the
the casino that has just opened nearby
or in the next state over.
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March 20th, 2013 at 7:27:19 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQOK, I've thought of another one:
.
Why not a covered moving walkway along the
strip. They have them in airports half a fricking
mile long. Why not a few on the Strip? Walking
on a moving walkway would get people going
where they're going faster and to where they can
spend their money.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 20th, 2013 at 7:43:25 PM
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Quote: EvenBobWhy not a covered moving walkway along the
strip. They have them in airports half a fricking
mile long. Why not a few on the Strip? Walking
on a moving walkway would get people going
where they're going faster and to where they can
spend their money.
Drunks + porn slappers + the usual suspects + moving walkways = big lawsuits against the City of Las Vegas
March 20th, 2013 at 7:50:15 PM
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Still trying to figure out how to make money off of a moving sidewalk, advertising perhaps? Could you earn enough to maintain it?Quote: aceofspadesDrunks + porn slappers + the usual suspects + moving walkways = big lawsuits against the City of Las Vegas
How about a giant Merry-Go-Round with a bar in the middle and floors that can withstand the pressure washer that'll be needed to rinse off the vomit?
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 20th, 2013 at 7:53:36 PM
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Quote: aceofspadesDrunks + porn slappers + the usual suspects + moving walkways = big lawsuits against the City of Las Vegas
There are moving walkways everywhere in the world,
nobody has those problems. Vegas would be no different.
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March 20th, 2013 at 8:55:24 PM
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Quote: bluefireThis trip to Las Vegas brought to you by MGM Airways.
Bingo! +1
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March 20th, 2013 at 9:05:38 PM
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Quote: s2dbakerStill trying to figure out how to make money off of a moving sidewalk,?
People spend no money on a sidewalk, getting them
where they're going faster would have them spending
faster. Plus, people love moving walkways, they can
just stand there and get where they're going. Its an
attraction in and of itself.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 20th, 2013 at 9:11:20 PM
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EvenBob has a GREAT idea here. It could become part of the second level of las vegas. Many of the casinos would likely attract more customers if they had some moving walkways.
A subway like shuttle to the strip would really help as well.
A subway like shuttle to the strip would really help as well.
March 20th, 2013 at 9:15:27 PM
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Quote: KeyserEvenBob has a GREAT idea here. It could become part of the second level of las vegas.
A covered walkway would keep you out of the
sun, you could be outdoors, see the sights, get
where you're going, and never move a muscle.
Its a win/win for businesses and customers.
You could have 3 going in one direction on one
side of LV BLVD, and 3 on the other side. You
would have handrails separating the 3 walkways,
with the one in the center for people who just
want to stand still.
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March 20th, 2013 at 9:27:13 PM
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They should license the attractions so that there could only one (or in some cases a limited number) of any given attraction in the city. Part of the problem lies in the fact that too many competitors are trying to do the same thing - and not just the ferris wheel. It's like building a gas station at a busy intersection in my city (not las vegas btw). One is a good idea, two can sometimes be supported, but when the third one goes up, none of them makes any money and one of them often fails. Competition is one thing, but too much competition is another. They need to avoid canniballizing their own markets. Building is not the solution, offering value is.
The key lies in understanding what makes vegas different and capitalizing on it. They should quit wasting money on "window dressing" and do a better job of understanding their customers, creating value, and making vegas the best of the best in all regards. For example, if they have a roller coaster it should be the best one in the world or at least be unique in some regard. If they have an exhibits/conventions/shows, they should be the best ones available and/or offer the best value and be superior to what others have elsewhere. The same goes for gambling conditions and rules - they should offer the best values in the world (not just volume) and strive to publicize it. I hate going to something in vegas only to find out that it is a cheap ripoff of something that I have been to elsewhere (I feel this way a lot when I go to vegas, unfortunately). If I go to the effort of going all the way to vegas, it needs to be worth it. They need to have a better understanding of what customers actually want and give it to them in a way that is unmatched anywhere else. This needs to be true for all levels of customers, not just the "whales."
The key lies in understanding what makes vegas different and capitalizing on it. They should quit wasting money on "window dressing" and do a better job of understanding their customers, creating value, and making vegas the best of the best in all regards. For example, if they have a roller coaster it should be the best one in the world or at least be unique in some regard. If they have an exhibits/conventions/shows, they should be the best ones available and/or offer the best value and be superior to what others have elsewhere. The same goes for gambling conditions and rules - they should offer the best values in the world (not just volume) and strive to publicize it. I hate going to something in vegas only to find out that it is a cheap ripoff of something that I have been to elsewhere (I feel this way a lot when I go to vegas, unfortunately). If I go to the effort of going all the way to vegas, it needs to be worth it. They need to have a better understanding of what customers actually want and give it to them in a way that is unmatched anywhere else. This needs to be true for all levels of customers, not just the "whales."
March 20th, 2013 at 10:22:55 PM
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Quote: s2dbakerIf you had 50 million dollars burning a hole in your pocket, what would you build in that space that might actually make money?
A Ferris Wheel Hotel. The wheel would turn when you want to get into or out of your room. At peak times it takes forever to get off :P
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March 20th, 2013 at 10:25:08 PM
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What's needed to make Las Vegas a relevant destination once again is a paradigm shift in the concept of entertainment.
No clue what it would be, but that is what is needed.
No clue what it would be, but that is what is needed.
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March 20th, 2013 at 11:02:59 PM
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Quote: EvenBobYou
would have handrails separating the 3 walkways,
with the one in the center for people who just
want to stand still.
Nice of you to think of the porn slappers.
Maybe other places that have moving walkways don't have problems with porn slappers because...
they don't HAVE porn slappers.
Astonishing concept, I know.
March 20th, 2013 at 11:48:41 PM
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Sell advertising and sell the Faux Downtown aspects of legal control over it to exclude Porn Slappers etc.
All the shopping centers and mixed use developments that are Faux Downtowns profit from the fact that the "streets" and "squares" and busstops are under their control and are not public spaces where the homeless can congregate.
Alternative uses for 50MM:
Bring Back Wet and Wild.
A MicroTel of horizontal telephone boxes used as sleeping rooms.
A Tip Fund for Airlines to fly people to Vegas.
All the shopping centers and mixed use developments that are Faux Downtowns profit from the fact that the "streets" and "squares" and busstops are under their control and are not public spaces where the homeless can congregate.
Alternative uses for 50MM:
Bring Back Wet and Wild.
A MicroTel of horizontal telephone boxes used as sleeping rooms.
A Tip Fund for Airlines to fly people to Vegas.
March 21st, 2013 at 12:02:44 AM
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Don't forget two new water parks.Quote: FleaStiffTwo mob museums one of which failed.
Two phantom Ferris wheels one of which failed.
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March 21st, 2013 at 3:18:27 AM
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One of those water parks is less than a mile from my house. I got season tickets for the whole family. Of course we have a pretty decent sized water park in our neighborhood already.
But on the subject of the moving walkway: I would actually like to see a moving walkway that is built into segments. Like the first one moves at 3mph .. then connects to another one that moves 6mph, then 9mph, and 12mph, on up to 20mph or even higher. Basically something that kids would get a kick out of and also something that moves you around fast enough to be both fun and to keep you from staying outside too long going in between casinos.
But on the subject of the moving walkway: I would actually like to see a moving walkway that is built into segments. Like the first one moves at 3mph .. then connects to another one that moves 6mph, then 9mph, and 12mph, on up to 20mph or even higher. Basically something that kids would get a kick out of and also something that moves you around fast enough to be both fun and to keep you from staying outside too long going in between casinos.
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March 21st, 2013 at 3:30:23 AM
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So who would pay to maintain this sidewalk?Quote: EvenBobPeople spend no money on a sidewalk, getting them
where they're going faster would have them spending
faster. Plus, people love moving walkways, they can
just stand there and get where they're going. Its an
attraction in and of itself.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 21st, 2013 at 3:45:56 AM
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I agree with moving people about the strip more efficiently, but I don't think moving sidewalks is the solution. I think what is needed is a properly placed monorail (I actually use the current monorail quite a bit at $1 a ride for locals, it's pretty cost efficient and quick for me...but that's another discussion).
The problem with the current monorail is location. It is a long walk to the back of all the properties and it doesn't do anything for the west side of the strip. Also how insane is it that at the point that the monorail really ends, after the most southern stop at MGM, when it makes it's turnaround loop, almost at Tropicana and Koval, it is about a quarter mile from the airport. Just truly insane. The monorail should run from the airport right up the center of the strip (access to both sides) and be extended downtown. Do away with those deuce and strip express buses. What a horrible way to travel. The deuce crawls along overcrowded, way to much time getting in and out. It's an hour trip from lower strip to downtown. Just ridiculous. Yes I know there is opposition to this idea from the taxi cab industry. That is why the current monorail ends so close to the airport. Screw them. You overcome that kind of politics to upgrade to a world class destination that Vegas should be. The taxi cab industry will still do just fine.
The problem with the current monorail is location. It is a long walk to the back of all the properties and it doesn't do anything for the west side of the strip. Also how insane is it that at the point that the monorail really ends, after the most southern stop at MGM, when it makes it's turnaround loop, almost at Tropicana and Koval, it is about a quarter mile from the airport. Just truly insane. The monorail should run from the airport right up the center of the strip (access to both sides) and be extended downtown. Do away with those deuce and strip express buses. What a horrible way to travel. The deuce crawls along overcrowded, way to much time getting in and out. It's an hour trip from lower strip to downtown. Just ridiculous. Yes I know there is opposition to this idea from the taxi cab industry. That is why the current monorail ends so close to the airport. Screw them. You overcome that kind of politics to upgrade to a world class destination that Vegas should be. The taxi cab industry will still do just fine.
March 21st, 2013 at 4:55:22 AM
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Monorail from airport to Fremont would be great. Then all you need is a connection from east side of strip to the west side. They already have most of the west side in place from Mandalay to Excalibur, and from Monte Carlo to Bellagio.
They could make it work and people would love it.
The cabs would be fine.
They could make it work and people would love it.
The cabs would be fine.
March 21st, 2013 at 6:14:20 AM
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Kewjl -
You're right that the monorail ends about 1/4 mile from the airport, but that's the distance to the closest corner of the property. The terminal is more like a mile away. And If you really build it, it would need to wrap around the empty lot, adding a stop at the Hard Rock and UNLV, making the extension about two miles.
Of course, there are already plans, with approvals, to do this. There's just no funding.
FYI. There's also plans for a branch that goes behind the west side of the strip as well as a branch to Fremont.
But I agree that an airport connection would be the best thing for this city.
You're right that the monorail ends about 1/4 mile from the airport, but that's the distance to the closest corner of the property. The terminal is more like a mile away. And If you really build it, it would need to wrap around the empty lot, adding a stop at the Hard Rock and UNLV, making the extension about two miles.
Of course, there are already plans, with approvals, to do this. There's just no funding.
FYI. There's also plans for a branch that goes behind the west side of the strip as well as a branch to Fremont.
But I agree that an airport connection would be the best thing for this city.
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March 21st, 2013 at 6:29:16 AM
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Quote: kewljYes I know there is opposition to this idea from the taxi cab industry. That is why the current monorail ends so close to the airport.
You cuold extend the monorail to the airpot.
You won't get anyone to demolish the line that already exists and rebuild it along the center of the Strip. That would be insanely expensive.
What Vegas could really use is a subway, but I'm unfamiliar with the underground conditions. Still, if you can build an extensive subway network in Mex City, where underground means soggy, jello-like mush, you should be able to build one in Vegas (In Mex City some subway lines are very, very deep as comapred to other cities; in some aprts the "subway" runs on the surface.)
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March 21st, 2013 at 6:35:35 AM
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I don't know if Vegas has enough people to warrant a full subway system. The Las Vegas Metropolitan area is really no bigger the the Metro Milwaukee area and it is a town that is kind of spread out. They could use something specific to the tourist area a rapid way to get from the north end to the south end of the strip, and maybe and express from the north end to downtown. I used the monorail once before, and I wouldn't do it again as it seems, especially on the north end of the line, it goes way off the strip.
This also might be a bit of a radical idea and would require the city to do some major infrastructure improvements but since they are putting of the Ferris Wheel, would it be that far fetched to suggest that Vegas completely shut down Las Vegas Blvd from Mandalay Bay to Wynncore to vehicular traffic, or if that doesn't work may just do the higher foot traffic areas like maybe from Harmon to Spring Mountain. This would obviously require improvements to parallel streets like Frank Sinatra Dr, and requiring streets crossing the strip to either go beneath or have a bridge go over the strip.
This also might be a bit of a radical idea and would require the city to do some major infrastructure improvements but since they are putting of the Ferris Wheel, would it be that far fetched to suggest that Vegas completely shut down Las Vegas Blvd from Mandalay Bay to Wynncore to vehicular traffic, or if that doesn't work may just do the higher foot traffic areas like maybe from Harmon to Spring Mountain. This would obviously require improvements to parallel streets like Frank Sinatra Dr, and requiring streets crossing the strip to either go beneath or have a bridge go over the strip.
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March 21st, 2013 at 7:11:16 AM
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The hotels on the strip have a lot invested in car traffic driving up to their casinos. If Las Vegas Boulevard was made a one way street going North and the Southbound lanes turned into a pedestrian mall similar to Fremont Street, I think that would work better. But what would you do to make money on that lot by the Planet Hollywood that doesn't involve another Ferris wheel?
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 21st, 2013 at 7:19:08 AM
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here's an idea.....Coin Tossing Pavilion! Bikini clad women flipping silver dollars in glass incased stages. Betting consoles circle the stages. Gamblers have two choices....heads/tails. Twenty dollars and hour goes to house for the seat. Coin must settle on floor, camera zooms in to make the call. The real payoff comes when the girl reaches down to pickup coin. O.K., I'm guessing the Pavilion could accommodate dudes wearing g-strings off in the corner. Still fleshing out ideas for the Pavilion. Will be seeking investors shortly.
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March 21st, 2013 at 7:33:30 AM
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We have a winner :)Quote: treetopbuddyhere's an idea.....Coin Tossing Pavilion! Bikini clad women flipping silver dollars in glass incased stages. Betting consoles circle the stages. Gamblers have two choices....heads/tails. Twenty dollars and hour goes to house for the seat. Coin must settle on floor, camera zooms in to make the call. The real payoff comes when the girl reaches down to pickup coin. O.K., I'm guessing the Pavilion could accommodate dudes wearing g-strings off in the corner. Still fleshing out ideas for the Pavilion. Will be seeking investors shortly.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 21st, 2013 at 7:34:16 AM
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The powers that be in Vegas conspire to make getting around for tourists as HARD as possible. So no moving walkway.
How bout every new casino/hotel stop trying to outdo the last one and go back to providing real value? How bout stop trying to rip tourists off at every turn? Joe Sixpack isn't looking to blow $10K on a night at Rain or $5K on a handbag in the Forum Shops. Provide him with a lot of fun without it costing a lot of money, the way Vegas used to be, and he'll come back.
How bout every new casino/hotel stop trying to outdo the last one and go back to providing real value? How bout stop trying to rip tourists off at every turn? Joe Sixpack isn't looking to blow $10K on a night at Rain or $5K on a handbag in the Forum Shops. Provide him with a lot of fun without it costing a lot of money, the way Vegas used to be, and he'll come back.
March 21st, 2013 at 8:19:13 AM
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Just what are all these people about to get onto a Ferris Wheel supposed to be buying anyway?
March 21st, 2013 at 8:31:18 AM
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EvenBob has it figured out. They need the moving walkways. This enables the people that actually have the money to gamble, and that enjoy gambling, to get to and from the casinos more efficiently. Many seniors simply can't get around the new LV because of bad hips, backs, knees, etc...
March 21st, 2013 at 8:32:01 AM
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Quote: AhighBut on the subject of the moving walkway: I would actually like to see a moving walkway that is built into segments. Like the first one moves at 3mph .. then connects to another one that moves 6mph, then 9mph, and 12mph, on up to 20mph or even higher. Basically something that kids would get a kick out of and also something that moves you around fast enough to be both fun and to keep you from staying outside too long going in between casinos.
The Paris Metro actually has something like this. There are only two different speeds, and the slow segments at the beginning and end simply serve to transition you to and from the fast segment. Still, it's pretty cool.
March 21st, 2013 at 8:46:21 AM
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I second the moving walkway idea, I think it would have to be a private endeavor though because it would be directly harming inter major casino business.
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March 21st, 2013 at 9:05:00 AM
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A ride on a Ferris wheel.Quote: FleaStiffJust what are all these people about to get onto a Ferris Wheel supposed to be buying anyway?
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 21st, 2013 at 10:42:42 AM
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A subway to the strip with stops at the major corners would be great.
McCarran -> Hacienda -> Sahara -> Harmon -> Flamingo -> Sands -> Convention Centre with a hook into the east (CZR) Monorail at Sahara and the Convention centre and a hook into the "West" (MGM) monorail at Hacienda. Arrange the exits and entrances to be the same place as the staircases over the strip. Charge $10 for an all-day pass and $2/trip.
But that would cost well over $50M.
Traffic in Vegas is very high but people are not spending nearly as much. The peoplemovers on the sidewalk are great to move people but I think casinos really don't want people to move.
McCarran -> Hacienda -> Sahara -> Harmon -> Flamingo -> Sands -> Convention Centre with a hook into the east (CZR) Monorail at Sahara and the Convention centre and a hook into the "West" (MGM) monorail at Hacienda. Arrange the exits and entrances to be the same place as the staircases over the strip. Charge $10 for an all-day pass and $2/trip.
But that would cost well over $50M.
Traffic in Vegas is very high but people are not spending nearly as much. The peoplemovers on the sidewalk are great to move people but I think casinos really don't want people to move.
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March 21st, 2013 at 11:51:34 AM
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As long as we're thinking large here, my vision of a Las Vegas Light Rail Mass Transit System would start with a line from the Airport up to Fremont above Las Vegas Boulevard. It has to be above ground for sight seeing. Each station along the strip would be built to accomodate an East-West line that may or may not be buried beneath the streets. The first East-West line would run along Flamingo Road out to East Side Cannery and past Chinatown. Once those routes are established then build the thing out to the air force base and down to the M adding East-West "ribs" as demand warrants. Make it a zone system like London or the Long Island Rail Road.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 21st, 2013 at 11:57:32 AM
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When the casinos wind up wanting to allow a prostitute to come to your room, ordered through room service legally, they will be out of ideas. It is the basic protocol of always wanting something more to differentiate the gambling options country wide. Until everyone has it, then they come back to the ballots and legislators with their new ideas.
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March 21st, 2013 at 3:59:26 PM
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Quote: skrbornevryminThe key lies in understanding what makes vegas different and capitalizing on it.
They should quit wasting money on "window dressing" and do a better job of understanding their
customers, creating value, and making vegas the best of the best in all regards.
CREATING VALUE for the customer, now there's a novel concept for the Casino Mgr's / Owners.
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March 21st, 2013 at 4:15:38 PM
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Quote: 7outlineawayThe powers that be in Vegas conspire to make getting around for tourists as HARD as possible. So no moving walkway.
How bout every new casino/hotel stop trying to outdo the last one and go back to providing real value? How bout stop trying to rip tourists off at every turn? Joe Sixpack isn't looking to blow $10K on a night at Rain or $5K on a handbag in the Forum Shops. Provide him with a lot of fun without it costing a lot of money, the way Vegas used to be, and he'll come back.
You have a good point. They are not motivated to do anything like a people mover sidewalk, because they would be spending money to cost them money. I have a feeling if the boardwalk in AC was actually destroyed by Sandy, the casinos might have tried to not have it replaced. They would have their guests stuck who would be too afraid to walk on the street or unwilling to walk on a bottle-necked sidewalk. It would be just an oops moment.
I am a robot.
March 21st, 2013 at 4:26:58 PM
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For 50 million, convert an existing property to be super accomodating to folks in wheelchairs and scooters. Lower table and machine heights, wider aisles, no stairs, oxygen (bottle) bar, easy read lettering...
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
March 22nd, 2013 at 2:43:29 AM
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For a $1-2 million fee I would be willing to consult with them and "study" how to spend the other $48-49 million - but I'm guessing that the job probably already belongs to someone's brother in law.
March 22nd, 2013 at 4:41:48 AM
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What? You bring all these people together and all they buy is a ticket to ride? No food, drink, umbrellas, etc.? Whats some jerk about to ride a Ferris wheel know about spending real money? Let the jerks stay home.Quote: s2dbakerA ride on a Ferris wheel.
Geriatric gamblers can't navigate Vegas? Thats okay... Tell them to go to local Indian casinso. Keep Vegas for the hale and hearty.
March 22nd, 2013 at 5:07:09 AM
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I find Vegas reasonably navigable. Yes, there is some traffic (what town its size doesn't), but the town is laid out in a grid pattern, but TBQH, when I go to Vegas, the traffic there is better than it is where I live.
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
March 22nd, 2013 at 8:31:40 AM
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Quote: s2dbakerBut what would you do to make money on that lot by the Planet Hollywood that doesn't involve another Ferris wheel?
The Las Vegas Gold Nugget, Gemstone, Dinosaur Bone, Dead Mobster, Card Counter, Jimmy Hoffa and Booby Prize Dig!
Dig a big hole, maybe 6-10 feet deep on the entire lot. Fill the hole with really fine grade beach sand and sprinkle in small gold nuggets, gemstones, small fossils, an occasional dead-body part, tons of cracker jack-style vegas prizes and some unclaimed pawn-shop antiques. You could charge people an hourly rate (50/hr?) to rent a child-size plastic shovel and bucket with a vegas logo on it. You get to keep what you find as well as the bucket and shovel. If you find something valued at $1000 or more you get your picture taken with a polaroid camera and thumb tacked to the wall along the entry way. The line could also be patrolled by porn slappers and time-share agents offering free show tickets and such to those willing to attend a "short presentation" later in the day. Also, bottled water could be sold at up to 10 times cost by scantily-dressed women with bunny rabbit ears and tails. Am I missing anything?
March 22nd, 2013 at 8:48:59 AM
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Would you pay to dig in the sand? I think the first test of an idea is "would I buy that?"Quote: skrbornevryminAm I missing anything?
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 22nd, 2013 at 9:11:51 AM
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Quote: s2dbakerWould you pay to dig in the sand? I think the first test of an idea is "would I buy that?"
Depends on whether I could determine if it was positive ev. :) - Maybe they should have a list of the "unclaimed prizes."
