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Quote: mcallister3200Fewer things driving are more annoying today than some old fogie driving a 60 year old car on the freeway 15 miles below the speed limit and thinking it’s the coolest thing ever. Or smelling their exhaust while walking in town, and them thinking it’s the coolest thing ever.
Get that junk off the road, no one thinks using a 30 year old computer is cool, it’s pretty much the same thing.
When I was a teenager, one of my neighbors was a tiny old lady driving a big old car where her eyes looked through the steering rather than over it. She painted the thing herself with a paint brush, bird's egg blue. A friend working at the gas station where they still did lots of mechanical work joked that when she brought her car in they had to make new parts for it rather than buy them.
Fortunately, I don't think she drove it on the freeway. At least not in the last 20 years. I do remember hearing she eventually drove it straight into a big ditch at the end of the road and finished it off.
Quote: EvenBobIn 1967 $300 was a lot of money.
I was taking home $55 a week in my
job, so $300 was almost a month and
a half's wages. It's really cute that
you had a rich daddy who spoiled
your ass so you had no concept
of living in the real world.
My dad took out a loan of $50
for Xmas presents in 1963. Took
him 6 months to pay it back.
Cute, huh.
I remember in 1970 one night when I bar-hopping with my high-school buddies (drinking age was 18 then, remember?). We were driving around and ran low on gas. We pooled the loose change in our pockets and were good for 3 or 4 gallons. I think the going price back then was ~ $0.30 per gallon. Don't recall what we were paying for beers.
Quote: billryan
If someone spent $2400 on a car today, no one would say it is a lot of money.
If you think $300 was a small
amount of money in 1967,
you weren't around then.
In 67 you could buy 3 pounds
of hamburger for $1. I could
buy a used book for .25 cents.
Gas was 19 cents a gallon.
Bread was 25 cents, McD
burger was 15 cents, a Snickers
was a nickel, a full ounce of
weed was $10.
$2400 is only a small amount when
you talk about car prices. Ask
somebody to loan you $2400
and see what you have to go
thru to get it.
Quote: rxwineWhen I was a teenager, one of my neighbors was a tiny old lady driving a big old car where her eyes looked through the steering rather than over it. She painted the thing herself with a paint brush, bird's egg blue. A friend working at the gas station where they still did lots of mechanical work joked that when she brought her car in they had to make new parts for it rather than buy them.
Fortunately, I don't think she drove it on the freeway. At least not in the last 20 years. I do remember hearing she eventually drove it straight into a big ditch at the end of the road and finished it off.
I learned just a few years back about how my dad's grandmother drove. Had some big 1940s car for years. Drove it to see her sister. Standard shift. Never took it out of first. Trip was just a few blocks.
Quote: EvenBobIf you think $300 was a small
amount of money in 1967,
you weren't around then.
In 67 you could buy 3 pounds
of hamburger for $1. I could
buy a used book for .25 cents.
Gas was 19 cents a gallon.
Bread was 25 cents, McD
burger was 15 cents, a Snickers
was a nickel, a full ounce of
weed was $10.
$2400 is only a small amount when
you talk about car prices. Ask
somebody to loan you $2400
and see what you have to go
thru to get it.
Axelwolf once handed me $2,000 worth of gift cards and completely forgot about it. A former poster here once forgot I was holding about $1600 for him. We clearly have different ideas of what a lot of money is.
When someone tells me they spent 2400 on a car, which you say was the same as $300 was in 1967, my first reaction isn't that was a lot of money.
It's not a big deal. I think I paid $300 for my second car, a 1968 Buick Skylark. One of the ugliest cars Americans ever designed. It was as if they took a Cutlass and decided how badly they could move its lines.
In 1971/72 I got my first job. It paid $13 a week for three weeks and $19 on the fourth week. My Dad celebrated my getting a job by cutting my allowance from $4 a week to $2.I told them I was going to save $500 in a year and my Uncle said if I did that he'd match it.
To his surprise, he had to match it.
I've no idea why you chose to take shots at my parents or my upbringing, but if you ever wonder why I ignore your PMs, maybe this will give you a clue.
Quote: billryanAxelwolf once handed me $2,000 worth of gift cards and completely forgot about it. A former poster here once forgot I was holding about $1600 for him. We clearly have different ideas of what a lot of money is.
When someone tells me they spent 2400 on a car, which you say was the same as $300 was in 1967, my first reaction isn't that was a lot of money.
I agree, $2400 for a seven year old car sounds like a great deal to me.
How does anyone even find gasoline for old muscle cars these days?
Quote: zippyboyIn 1982, I paid $1600 for 1969 Oldsmobile 442, a fair amount for a high-school kid then. Only two stations in Austin then carried the old Ethyl gas it required. Only unleaded gas available everywhere else.
How does anyone even find gasoline for old muscle cars these days?
Many people convert them for unleaded gas or add a fuel additive to each tank.
Quote: zippyboyIn 1982, I paid $1600 for 1969 Oldsmobile 442, a fair amount for a high-school kid then. Only two stations in Austin then carried the old Ethyl gas it required. Only unleaded gas available everywhere else.
How does anyone even find gasoline for old muscle cars these days?
Ethyl = High Test? Regular leaded was available almost everywhere until about 1988 around me. I remember Amoco was the first to go all lead free.
The article also points out that the inventor Thomas Midgely also worked with chlorofluorocarbon.
"A vacuum tube, also called a valve in British English, is an electronic device used in many older model radios, television sets, and amplifiers."
the pocket size transistor radio released in 1957 by Sony changed everything - the Sony TR 63
believe it or not in the early 80s I had a job selling goods to stores and 𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐢𝐭𝐞𝐦𝐬 𝐈 𝐬𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐞𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐯𝐚𝐜𝐮𝐮𝐦 𝐭𝐮𝐛𝐞𝐬
they actually hung around that long
when a tube burned out instead of buying a new radio or tv some people bought a new vacuum tube
to a lot of people when a TV repairman came to their home to fix the TV he was a many of mystery
virtually nobody knew how a TV worked or how to repair it
many times 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚 𝐓𝐕 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐚𝐢𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐧 𝐝𝐢𝐝 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐞 𝐚 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐯𝐚𝐜𝐮𝐮𝐦 𝐭𝐮𝐛𝐞 which anybody with a 7th grade education could easily be trained to do...................(-:\
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you could test all your tubes if you couldn't see which one was burned out
IIRC you could also test the ones you were about to buy to make sure they were good
My first reel to reel player was 12 transistors and my sister had a 15 transistor radio. That year, I got a cassette recorder that was solid state. The technology was advancing like crazy in the mid 1960s.
Quote: lilredroosterthere were 𝐯𝐚𝐜𝐮𝐮𝐦 𝐭𝐮𝐛𝐞 𝐭𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐦𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 in many drugstores for those in the know
you could test all your tubes if you couldn't see which one was burned out
IIRC you could also test the ones you were about to buy to make sure they were good
I remember when I was about 5 going with my dad to a specific grocery store that was like a 15-minute drive away to test TV tubes!
The panel was advanced, incomprehensible science to me! Like real Star Trek technology.
I went to transistor school, not tube school.
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with bated breath or baited breath, whichever is correctQuote: TeachAP4youI remember when life was simple. I will have an important announcement coming to the AP community soon. Stay tuned in.
Quote: TeachAP4youI remember when life was simple. I will have an important announcement coming to the AP community soon. Stay tuned in.
I am very excited to see what you are going to try to sell us. I sure hope it is another baccarat or roulette system.
about the Bullitt Mustang and
remembered my sisters husband
briefly had a 1968 Shelby GT 428
Mustang in 1968. I say briefly
because it was a race car, you
were always doing 80 without
trying. It could get rubber in all
4 gears. It's the only car I was really
scared of, to drive or ride in. My
bro in law got 9 points on his
license in 6 months. You couldn't
drive it in the winter, it had too
much rear wheel torque. Always
sliding off the road. They're worth
$150,000 today.
we knew all or most of our neighbors - most were friendly if not friends - it was nice to pass people by and say a few words - lots of good vibes
there were a few strange people too, who lived in houses on the street but nobody knew anything about them and you rarely saw them and their houses were always dark
as kids we thought one woman who lived alone in a house was a witch - she had that look
now, I live in a condo - only a very few in the building make eye contact or say hello - most, I don't even know their names
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Quote: lilredroosterI fondly remember growing up on a quiet suburban street -
we knew all or most of our neighbors - most were friendly if not friends - it was nice to pass people by and say a few words - lots of good vibes
there were a few strange people too, who lived in houses on the street but nobody knew anything about them and you rarely saw them and their houses were always dark
as kids we thought one woman who lived alone in a house was a witch - she had that look
now, I live in a condo - only a very few in the building make eye contact or say hello - most, I don't even know their names
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I grew up in the midwest and you had at least a casual relationship with most of your neighbors. I have been in Vegas now for 30 years and don't have a relationship with a single neighbor. We will all wave at each other when pulling out of the driveway but I have never had more than a one minute discussion with any of them.
Quote: DRichI grew up in the midwest and you had at least a casual relationship with most of your neighbors. I have been in Vegas now for 30 years and don't have a relationship with a single neighbor. We will all wave at each other when pulling out of the driveway but I have never had more than a one minute discussion with any of them.
Frank Culotta said that is what let them successfully rob so many places. Phoenix was much the same. Cinder block fences between places. You don't know your neighbor, you don't want to know your neighbor.
Quote: AZDuffmanFrank Culotta said that is what let them successfully rob so many places. Phoenix was much the same. Cinder block fences between places. You don't know your neighbor, you don't want to know your neighbor.
I just decided to google Frank Cullotta to see if he was still with us. He passed away on August 20.
Quote: GreasyjohnI just decided to google Frank Culotta to see if he was still with us. He passed away on August 20.
Yes, up until last year he was still working with a group that did old Vegas tours and Mafia tours in Las Vegas. One of the regular stops on the tour was a tavern that I used to hang out at. I would probably seehim once a month. My wife spent some interviewing him for a book and described him as a very polite and respectful man.
Quote: EvenBob
I have never been a muscle car fan but I do like the looks of that car.
Quote: lilredroosterI fondly remember growing up on a quiet suburban street -
we knew all or most of our neighbors - most were friendly if not friends - it was nice to pass people by and say a few words - lots of good vibes
there were a few strange people too, who lived in houses on the street but nobody knew anything about them and you rarely saw them and their houses were always dark
as kids we thought one woman who lived alone in a house was a witch - she had that look
now, I live in a condo - only a very few in the building make eye contact or say hello - most, I don't even know their names
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When I lived in Queens and then Henderson, the only neighbors I knew were fellow dog owners I'd meet walking my dog.
Quote: GreasyjohnI just decided to google Frank Cullotta to see if he was still with us. He passed away on August 20.
His YT channel was Coffee With Culotta. From what I have read about him he seems to be fairly intelligent but ended up in a life of crime. He would change his MO at regular intervals. Really if it was not for Spilotro he might not have pulled the Bertha's heist and got caught.
Quote: lilredroosterI fondly remember growing up on a quiet suburban street -
we knew all or most of our neighbors - *
I was in a city neighborhood till
I was 11 in the 50's. We knew who
lived in every house on our street
for blocks. Not because we wanted
to, we were forced to. We played
with their kids, saw them working
in their yards, saw them walking
to the store. We were friendly but
not friends.
Things gradually changed in the US,
Canada, Briton, Germany. More cars,
more home entertainment, more
supervising who our kids played
with. I've read that keeping good
relationships with neighbors is
hard work, lots of patience and
give and take involved. More and
more we're opting out of it.
We enjoy the solitary lifestyles.
I read that we developed such
huge brains not to survive, but
to get along with other humans.
It's like playing a never ending
chess game, dealing with all
the people around you.
I have experienced both worlds,
knew all the neighbors on a first
name basis, to now where I have
no idea who my neighbors are.
Do I miss the old days, hell no.
Other people are usually not
a boon to your life, they're a
pain in the ass. Not knowing
my neighbors and all their problems
is one less thing to deal with.
Jean-Paul Sartre said "Hell is
other people because of how
we are unable to escape the
watchful gaze of everyone
around us." Think Gladys
Kravitz from Bewitched..
Quote: EvenBob............................Other people are usually not a boon to your life, they're a pain in the ass.
there's some truth to what you write, but still
to me, face to face human contact - if friendly and courteous - beats the hell out of posting on boards like this, or being glued to whatever screen
yes, you can distract yourself with all this wondrous tech stuff - but it's just not the same as having a beer or a cup of coffee with someone and chatting
spending hours and hours on various screens to me is a way of fooling yourself into believing that human companionship is not valuable
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Quote: EvenBobI was in a city neighborhood till
I was 11 in the 50's. We knew who
lived in every house on our street
for blocks. Not because we wanted
to, we were forced to. We played
with their kids, saw them working
in their yards, saw them walking
to the store. We were friendly but
not friends.
Things gradually changed in the US,
Canada, Briton, Germany. More cars,
more home entertainment, more
supervising who our kids played
with. I've read that keeping good
relationships with neighbors is
hard work, lots of patience and
give and take involved. More and
more we're opting out of it.
We enjoy the solitary lifestyles.
I read that we developed such
huge brains not to survive, but
to get along with other humans.
It's like playing a never ending
chess game, dealing with all
the people around you.
I have experienced both worlds,
knew all the neighbors on a first
name basis, to now where I have
no idea who my neighbors are.
Do I miss the old days, hell no.
Other people are usually not
a boon to your life, they're a
pain in the ass. Not knowing
my neighbors and all their problems
is one less thing to deal with.
Jean-Paul Sartre said "Hell is
other people because of how
we are unable to escape the
watchful gaze of everyone
around us." Think Gladys
Kravitz from Bewitched..
The main advantage of the old way was security, If someone out of place hit a neighborhood there were eyes on them instantly. That deterred crime. It was neighborhood watch before there was neighborhood watch. Depending on the circumstances one of the men of the neighborhood might say, "can I help you?" to show that the person was out of place and being watched.
Instead of sitting on the front porch and getting to know your neighbors, people were now retreating to their backyards.
Quote: lilredroosterthere's some truth to what you write, but still
to me, face to face human contact - if friendly and courteous - beats the hell out of posting on boards like this
Not for me, at all. Most people
bore me to tears, I want to be
away from them almost
immediately. Most are so into
their own lives they want to
fill you in on all the tedious
details. I'm the opposite, I never
talk about myself or my life
in person. It's why I know almost
everything about people I know
and they know nothing about me.
I never talk about it and they
never ask. People tend to be very
into their own melodrama.
Quote: EvenBobNot for me, at all. Most people
bore me to tears, I want to be
away from them almost
immediately.
to me, except for having a paramour, the greatest thing in the world is having a really good friend
my 2 best friends have passed - wow - do I miss them
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Quote: lilredroosterto me, except for having a paramour, the greatest thing in the world is having a really good friend
A good friend is not 'most people'.
Most people bore me to tears.
Quote: AZDuffmanRemember when during sweeps there would be a Made For TV Movie that EVERYONE was talking about the next day? It was a 70s and 80s thing but some of them I still remember. The better ones were based on some kind of true story.
That was when 35 million people
all watched the same show. Now
it's considered decent ratings
if 4 million watch.
Quote: EvenBobThat was when 35 million people
all watched the same show. Now
it's considered decent ratings
if 4 million watch.
I remember watching "The Day After" in junior high and thinking "OMG (unabbreviated) we could all die immediately in a nuclear war."
According to the interwebs: More than 100 million people, in nearly 39 million households, watched the program during its initial broadcast.
But by 1984, when The Terminator came out, we were all like "pfft, that'll never happen."
Quote: smoothgrhI remember watching "The Day After" in junior high and thinking "OMG (unabbreviated) we could all die immediately in a nuclear war."
According to the interwebs: More than 100 million people, in nearly 39 million households, watched the program during its initial broadcast.
But by 1984, when The Terminator came out, we were all like "pfft, that'll never happen."
As cheesy as that movie looks today you cannot explain the feeling then to someone not alive at the time. If you want to see how close we came watch "Able Archer." One Russian stopped their side from launching!
Quote:During a VIP visit to the headquarters of the Strategic Air Command (SAC), at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha, Nebraska, the Air Force's early warning radar indicates that an unidentified aircraft has intruded into American airspace. Shortly after, the "intruder" is identified as an off-course civilian airliner and the alert is cancelled, but a computer error causes one American bomber group to receive apparently valid orders for a nuclear attack on Moscow. Attempts to rescind this order fail because a new Soviet countermeasure jams American radio communications. Unable to obtain confirmation or denial of the order, Colonel Jack Grady (Edward Binns), the US bomber group's commander, follows the order and commands his group to continue to their target.
Quote: rxwineActually the most interesting thing about that is the idea that an unknown countermeasure could disable a safety system to prevent a mistake. Wouldn't have to be a nuclear mistake, just a mistake bad enough to start a war.
In Able Archer it was some kind of cloud cover. The USA was on an annual wargame exercise. The Russian on duty thought it made no sense that the USA would only launch 5-10 ICBMs.
I believe they've made a comeback and are still around in some places
Quote: lilredroosterback in the day the Bookmobile came to our neighborhood once a week - it was a great thing - very popular - of course the selection was quite limited
I believe they've made a comeback and are still around in some places
Thank you! I would bet without this thread I never would have thought about "Bookmobile" again!
Quote: rxwineActually the most interesting thing about that is the idea that an unknown countermeasure could disable a safety system to prevent a mistake. Wouldn't have to be a nuclear mistake, just a mistake bad enough to start a war.
Like claiming naval forces from a certain nation attacked a US ship in international waters, say in the Gulf of Tonkin?
Or how WW1 started ? Or even WW2? Many, if not most wars are started by accident.
