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Quote: lilredrooster𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘔𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘓𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘋𝘰𝘣𝘪𝘦 𝘎𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘪𝘴
My dad never missed this when it hit TV Land. I was very neutral on it. Funny enough, but I chalk it up to so far before my time I will never totally be into it.
Quote: lilredrooster𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘔𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘓𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘋𝘰𝘣𝘪𝘦 𝘎𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘪𝘴
I 𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐝 this show - had to see it every week
Two not particularly well-known facts about the show (although the second one, I am not entirely sure is true).
First, the reason Bob Denver was replaced early in the run was, he was drafted - but it turned out that he had broken his neck once, so he was 4-F and returned to the show.
Second, reportedly, had the show gone on for another season, Dobie's mother was going to get pregnant and give birth, with all of the sibling rivalry "hijinks" that supposedly ensues as a result.
Quote: AZDuffmanMy dad never missed this when it hit TV Land.
It also featured a very young
Warren Beatty as a regular.
what a deal - loved it
$3.99 breakfast buffet got you all the scrambled eggs, bacon, melted cheese, biscuits, hash browns and french toast you could shove down
easily 5,000 calories.............................. (-:}
Quote: lilredroosterBob's Big Boy Restaurants
what a deal - loved it
$3.99 breakfast buffet got you all the scrambled eggs, bacon, melted cheese, biscuits, hash browns and french toast you could shove down
easily 5,000 calories.............................. (-:}
I remember the breakfast buffets hitting in the 1980s. On vacations we all ordered one with the understanding there would be no stopping for lunch. Shoney's was about the best I ever saw. I stopped at a local one on my 50th birthday solely to break the bacon into a "50" like Walter White but I was happier as I was not married to Skylar.
They are now pricier but who does not like treating themselves to one a couple or three times a year.
Quote: AZDuffman[qlike Walter White but I was happier as I was not married to Skylar.
Skyler White, shudder. Being married
to her would be like a prison sentence.
Quote: EvenBobOne of the few sophisticated comedies
on TV at that time. Most comedies,
like Lucy, Beaver, Mayberry, and later
ones like Hillbillies, Green Acres,
Munsters, on and on, were childish
and ridiculous by comparison.
Not to mention Gilligan, Mr. Ed, Bewitched, Jeannie, McHale's Navy, My Mother the Car, etc.
Most TV was terrible back in the 60s.. The shows that stood out (that I remember) were Star Trek, Twilight Zone, The Avengers (Diana Rigg and Patrick McNee) and Perry Mason. And there's lots to criticize in those shows as well.
Quote: lilredroosterBob's Big Boy Restaurants
what a deal - loved it
$3.99 breakfast buffet got you all the scrambled eggs, bacon, melted cheese, biscuits, hash browns and french toast you could shove down
easily 5,000 calories.............................. (-:}
I don't know when the Big Boy deal was around, but that sounds pretty good. I'm still blown away that Excalibur's Roundtable buffets used to be $3.99 in the early 90s. It included crabs and prime rib. If you put inflation to factor, $3.99 in 1991 is equivalent to $7.63 in 2020 with inflation. Pre-covid, it was nearly impossible to find a buffet under $20 on the strip.
https://vegasinc.lasvegassun.com/business/2020/aug/12/bobs-big-boy-expanding-to-southern-nevada/
Quote: gordonm888Most TV was terrible back in the 60s..
Only in retrospect. Actually being
there as a teen, as I was, TV was
absolutely WONDERFUL! All
the silly comedies were hilarious.
My whole fam watched Batman
and Bonanza and Hillbillies and
Green Acres and Bewitched. It
was the heyday of TV. A lot of these
shows were so popular they are
still in reruns around the world.
Fri night in my house was glorious.
Wild Wild West, Man From Uncle,
Twelve O'Clock High. We even got
to eat Mexican TV dinners in front
of the TV.
Get Smart, F Troop, Lost
in Space, Gomer Pyle, The Virginian,
Combat, The Fugitive, The Invaders,
Family Affair, Run For Your Life,
Gilligan, Monkee's, we absolutely
adored all these shows. TV has never
been as good since the mid 60's.
It was the polar opposite of 'terrible'.
That was the 70's and 80's.
If right, that means if you are 30 years old or less that you may not even be aware this was how some cans were opened back in the day
apparently you have to click on the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLFYgkgHvr0
Ralph (Jackie Gleason) always had big ideas, big plans - and they always got shot down
his friend Ed Norton (Art Carney) was priceless as a character
Quote: odiousgambitMaybe you still can buy cans you open this way,
All corned beef cans open that
way. I have 10 cans in the pantry
right now.
Then they made the original series available on late night tv and their fame just exploded. A few years later, some lost episodes were found, many of which would have been better off staying lost. The original pilot is not in syndication and is terrible, imho.
somebody told me that the local bowling alley might hire me as a pinsetter
I went and talked to the Manager - he said he might hire me - but he gave me a warning
he told me the ball would sometimes take an odd bounce and it could hit me in the head.....................(-:\
$.50 𝘢𝘯 𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘐 𝘮𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 𝘨𝘦𝘵 𝘩𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘢 𝘣𝘰𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘣𝘢𝘭𝘭......................(-:\
Quote: billryanIt's amazing the original honeymooners only lasted one season. I grew up watching the skits on the Jackie Gleason show in the mid-1960s and always thought they were a bit of a ripoff of The Flintstones.
Then they made the original series available on late night tv and their fame just exploded. A few years later, some lost episodes were found, many of which would have been better off staying lost. The original pilot is not in syndication and is terrible, imho.
Other way around of course. Flintstones was a spoof of "The Honeymooners" and "The Simpsons" is now spoofing "The Simpsons" which shows how solid the concept was.
Strange digression time- My Dad was away much, if not most of the time but when he was home he ruled our tv with an iron hand. We kids could make suggestions but he had the ultimate say so.
One Sunday night, we are watching the Jackie Gleason show and he falls asleep. Usually, when he was home, he would then switch to another show he liked. This time, he is sleeping and we are afraid to change the channel so we end up watching the next show. A stupid show about a bunch of tourists who go on a three-hour boat tour.
in 1975, 2 little girls, Sheila and Katherine Lyons, ages 10 and 12 disappeared in Wheaton, Maryland about 2 miles from my home
along with dozens of other people I searched the neighborhood and the woods looking for them but to no avail
they were never found
42 years later, in 2017, Lloyd Welch plead guilty to their murders - he was a maintenance man at Wheaton Plaza, a large shopping center
now, this is not all that unusual
back then, it was unheard of
still haunts me to this day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Katherine_and_Sheila_Lyon#Lloyd_Welch
Quote: lilredroosterwhen I was 15 I badly wanted to work. I wanted to make $$$$$$
somebody told me that the local bowling alley might hire me as a pinsetter
I went and talked to the Manager - he said he might hire me - but he gave me a warning
he told me the ball would sometimes take an odd bounce and it could hit me in the head.....................(-:\
$.50 𝘢𝘯 𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘐 𝘮𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 𝘨𝘦𝘵 𝘩𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘢 𝘣𝘰𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘣𝘢𝘭𝘭......................(-:\
And that's where word "pinhead" originates.
jk
(although I did check to make sure it didn't)
Or maybe you still have one?
Or maybe you now collect kids and stick pins in them.
Quote: lilredroostertabletop jukeboxes at the local diners
Doesn't Johnny Rockets still have those?
Quote: ThatDonGuy
Doesn't Johnny Rockets still have those?
they might, I'm not sure - I ate there once and never went back - was unimpressed
Quote: lilredroostertabletop jukeboxes at the local diners
Having change in your pocket was a big deal in the 50s and 60s. Everywhere you went there was a machine to put money into. Candy machines Coke machines, pay phones, pinball machines, jukeboxes, cigarette machines, gumball machines, Kotex machines, Trojan machines, machines to weigh yourself, machines for kids to ride on outside of grocery stores. 95% of that stuff has disappeared. There were people who owned scores of these machines and made a good living.
four 9 cent stamps for $.50 - etc, - a nice 28% profit for Uncle Sam if he ever sold any there.................................(-:\
Quote: lilredroosternow, this is not all that unusual
back then, it was unheard of
still haunts me to this day
Quite the opposite actually. This was much more common in the 70s.
Kidnapping, murder, and violent crime in general has been at an all time low for years. People just get the impression that things are more dangerous now because of how easily information spreads via technology.
Quote: EvenBob
Having change in your pocket was a big deal in the 50s and 60s. Everywhere you went there was a machine to put money into. Candy machines Coke machines, pay phones, pinball machines, jukeboxes, cigarette machines, gumball machines, Kotex machines, Trojan machines, machines to weigh yourself, machines for kids to ride on outside of grocery stores. 95% of that stuff has disappeared. There were people who owned scores of these machines and made a good living.
Well, yeah, membership in the mafia let most guys live well back then.
Japan is still vending machine nuts. Amazing what they sell in them.
Quote: lilredroosterstamp vending machines - I swear to God I never ever saw a single person using one
four 9 cent stamps for $.50 - etc, - a nice 28% profit for Uncle Sam if he ever sold any there.................................(-:\
Those were/are privately owned. You pay a premium to avoid going to the post office.
I currently sell US Stamps for 20% off face and few people buy them.
Coldcaße squadsx exist because crime rates Ares low and aging cops sit in the archives all day rather than chasing muggers.
Quote: AZDuffman
Well, yeah, membership in the mafia let most guys live well back then.
I worked in an adult bookstore
peep show for a year, owned
by the West coast Mafia. They
came in once a week and
emptied the quarters out
of the movie machines. Took
a hand truck to take them
out to the van. They had a
string of stores on the coast.
They actually had nicknames
just like in the movies. Never
any last names. Very professional,
never had any trouble with
them. Best job I ever had as
far as getting paid to sit there
and read books all day. We
had a pay phone in the store
and to get ahold of them we
called a number that changed
all the time. They would answer
by saying 'Identify yourself'.
Quote: EvenBobI worked in an adult bookstore
peep show for a year, owned
by the West coast Mafia. They
came in once a week and
emptied the quarters out
of the movie machines. Took
a hand truck to take them
out to the van. They had a
string of stores on the coast.
They actually had nicknames
just like in the movies. Never
any last names. Very professional,
never had any trouble with
them. Best job I ever had as
far as getting paid to sit there
and read books all day. We
had a pay phone in the store
and to get ahold of them we
called a number that changed
all the time. They would answer
by saying 'Identify yourself'.
Joe Pistone said they would empty the money, add the product, give the owner whatever his cut was, and be on their way.
g9od for you.Quote: billryanexited. I told him I thought I might be a bit over-qualified for the job and we parted ways.
Quote: AZDuffmanJoe Pistone said they would empty the money, add the product, give the owner whatever his cut was, and be on their way.
Yup. They emptied he machines,
gave me boxes of XXX mags
and sex toys for under the
counter, and left. Just a job
for them. It was always 3
men, 2 on the machines and
1 by the door with a gun in
a shoulder holster. Looked
bored to death. Real life
mobsters lead a very boring
existence.
The biggest buyers
of the toys were women and
young college girls. Great
job..
That was 45 years ago. I looked
at Google maps of Santa Barbara
a couple years ago and the store
is still there, still called The Adult
Store and probably still owned
by the Mob.
Quote: billryanGuys servicing porno shops aren't mobsters.
They had Mob nicknames, were middle
aged, and at least one always had a
gun. I don't care what their rank was,
they were mobbed up. They all had
heavy East coast accents too. They
weren't mean or rude or nasty, but
they had a 'don't mess with me' aura.
Like Chili Palmer in Get Shorty. But
not as cool as John Travolta.
Quote: billryanGuys servicing porno shops aren't mobsters. They are mooks who work for a mobster. They may work their way up, but what they are doing is far more work than a mobbed-up guy would do. On the East Coast, a made guy might have a dozen revenue streams with dozens of employees. Just as you worked in a mobbed-up place but weren't a mobster, the guys collecting quarters and answering phones were only one rung up the ladder. Go up a few more rungs, and you are wearing thousand-dollar suits and having five-hour lunches. When you aren't serving a sentence upstate, that is.
Maybe a capo would not do this work himself, but plenty of made guys would. How else do you know you are not getting robbed? In "Donnie Brasco" he said how made guys had routes like this.
He did also say mob life is exceptionally boring. In the end they mostly are doing a job like anyone else and their life is the same repetition. Same hassles as even in the life of a racketter you have people involved that do not do things as they need to be done. In the end that is what I hated about running a business. Simple things getting done wrong all the time that you gotta watch every minute and clean up after.
Low level made guys have to do low level work like collecting on their route. Low level made guys do not usually live a great life, often it is not much better than a working stiff despite what you see in the movies and on TV.
Quote: EvenBobYup. They emptied he machines,
gave me boxes of XXX mags
and sex toys for under the
counter, and left. Just a job
for them. It was always 3
men, 2 on the machines and
1 by the door with a gun in
a shoulder holster. Looked
bored to death. Real life
mobsters lead a very boring
existence.
The biggest buyers
of the toys were women and
young college girls. Great
job..
That was 45 years ago. I looked
at Google maps of Santa Barbara
a couple years ago and the store
is still there, still called The Adult
Store and probably still owned
by the Mob.
That has to be a business that just grinds a person down to nothing. I just heard a podcast about a guy was a DJ at a strip club. Thought it was a dream job but the guy he was replacing said he will hate life in 6 months. He was making a fortune as the girls had to kick up 10% of their tips with a certain minimum. With 20 or so girls and it all being cash his home safe was soon jammed full, But he did hate life! A few of the women seem to not mind the adult industry, the rest of the people seem to get addicted to the money and notice how low humanity really is.
Quote: AZDuffmanMaybe a capo would not do this work himself, but plenty of made guys would. How else do you know you are not getting robbed? In "Donnie Brasco" he said how made guys had routes like this.
He did also say mob life is exceptionally boring. In the end they mostly are doing a job like anyone else and their life is the same repetition. Same hassles as even in the life of a racketter you have people involved that do not do things as they need to be done. In the end that is what I hated about running a business. Simple things getting done wrong all the time that you gotta watch every minute and clean up after.
Low level made guys have to do low level work like collecting on their route. Low level made guys do not usually live a great life, often it is not much better than a working stiff despite what you see in the movies and on TV.
There is no such thing as a low-level made guy. There are low-level guys and there are made guys. When the Gambinos were being brought down in Federal court, the evidence showed that while they had hundreds of low-level employees- there were less than two dozen actual made men. Carrying a gun doesn't make you a mobster.
People watch the Sopranos and think that's how the mafia works. At best, Tony Soprano ran a crew, not a family.
To give real life examples- John Gotti Jr ran numerous clubs in NYC and had coat check concessions in dozens more, but didn't become a made man until his dad went to prison for life. Carmine Agnello was married to Gotti's daughter and ran the immense Willets Point junk empire but never got made.
Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: lilredroostertabletop jukeboxes at the local diners
Doesn't Johnny Rockets still have those?
a diner had those. I picked the wrong song and was embarrassed
Quote: AZDuffmanThat has to be a business that just grinds a person down to nothing.
Anything to do with the porn
industry is a lower than low
business. It attracts the
underbelly of society and
they drag you down with
them. I was a college kid,
it was a great place to do
my homework and get paid
at the same time. After a
year I was sick of it, but it
was worth the experience.
You can understand how cops
get so jaded, they deal with
the lowest part of society
every day. I never do, and most
people don't, by choice. Cops
have no choice. Like a cop said
on Live PD, I get paid to hear
people lie to me all day long.
Lefty joined the mob in the late 1940s and worked his way up the ladder. By the 1960s, he was one of the families top earners and lead a very violent crew that enforced whatever the bonanno boss's wanted, but he didn't become a made man until 1978.
Quote: billryanThere is no such thing as a low-level made guy.
You seem really hung up on 'made'
guys. Who cares. We're talking
about the day to day earnings
of organized crime. It's like every
other business, the real money
is made at the lowest levels.
In this case it's hookers,
drugs, porn, petty crime. Everybody
involved in it, from the lowest
ranking to the upper tier, is all
part of the organization.
Quote: EvenBobsir
You can understand how cops
get so jaded, they deal with
the lowest part of society
every day. I never do, and most
people don't, by choice. Cops
have no choice. Like a cop said
on Live PD, I get paid to hear
people lie to me all day long.
I've seen enough of it not even being a cop. I seriously do not know how some of society manages to survive day to day.
Quote: billryanSince Donnie Brasco was mentioned, let's use Lefty Ruggerio as an example. He was the guy Al Pacino played in the movie.
Lefty joined the mob in the late 1940s and worked his way up the ladder. By the 1960s, he was one of the families top earners and lead a very violent crew that enforced whatever the bonanno boss's wanted, but he didn't become a made man until 1978.
Lefty was always broke. He was in such gambling debt he could not be made for a few years. Different mobs have different numbers of made men. But a low level made man has to hustle and hustle to survive. They make a score, blow the cash, then are broke until they find the next score. Their life is a couple dozen things making a few hundred a week, which they must kick up about half of. For every Sammy Gravano who builds some legit on the surface companies there is a guy who has to pull petty scam after petty scam. Everyone you work with is trying to rip everyone they work with off.
Very few of these guys have money at any given time. It is not an easy life.
Quote: unJonWhole lot of mafia experts on this thread. Who knew.
Cant be surprising. We should all know at this point between EB and BR they or one of their friends has had experience with nearly every possible occupation or scenario in human history, better resources than the entirety of literature that could be referenced.
but it's obvious they're nothing like what they used to be
their signature advantage was brutality - they had no problem killing to get their way
now, the same is true for all sorts of assorted gangs who have moved into their territory
and gambling, which was huge for them, is legal almost everywhere now
great movie IMO - "Atlantic City"
the character played by Burt Lancaster wasn't a mob guy but he was a numbers runner who lost everything when A.C. installed casinos there
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