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June 23rd, 2012 at 11:14:32 AM permalink
London Olympic mascots are Wenlock and Mandeville.

The theme song is " Chariots of Fire "

Guess which 2 sports were dropped for the 2012 Olympics.

Give you a clue, synchronized swimming was not one of them.


No, Field Hockey was NOT dropped !
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June 23rd, 2012 at 12:07:18 PM permalink
I know baseball's one of them. I guess softball is the other one?

On a separate note, I've heard about a push to get pole dancing in as an Olympic sport...
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June 23rd, 2012 at 12:10:00 PM permalink
You got them right but you have been watching too much Jerry Springer LOL
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June 23rd, 2012 at 12:12:10 PM permalink
Quote: FourFiveFace

On a separate note, I've heard about a push to get pole dancing in as an Olympic sport...


If you've seen the skillful ones perform, you know it's a whole lot more like a gymnastics event than something for a strip club.
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June 23rd, 2012 at 12:14:30 PM permalink
Doc, I have always supported pole dancing for it's athleticism and grace.

And I go to Hooter's because the burgers are great, but wife will not believe me. WOMEN>>> LOL
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June 23rd, 2012 at 12:22:18 PM permalink
>WAS ARCHIE BUNKER RIGHT ?

Well, I dunno, but we could use a man like Herbert Hoover today. What did Bunker say about the Olympics?
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June 23rd, 2012 at 2:27:41 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

>WAS ARCHIE BUNKER RIGHT ?

Well, I dunno, but we could use a man like Herbert Hoover today. What did Bunker say about the Olympics?


I was thinking the same thing.
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June 23rd, 2012 at 2:40:57 PM permalink
It's not what A. Bunker said about the Olympics - it's what he called England! Google it as the political correctness of the 21st Century will not allow me to go unscathed if I quote it
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June 24th, 2012 at 7:40:37 PM permalink
Quote: FourFiveFace



On a separate note, I've heard about a push to get pole dancing in as an Olympic sport...



I'll take Women's Roller Derby over pole dancing any day of the week.
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June 24th, 2012 at 9:04:59 PM permalink
I was surprised Softball got dropped. But then, I like playing softball.

I look forward to the addition of Rugby 7's in 2016, and maybe one day 20-20 cricket. I was surprised 7's isn't a demo sport in the London Olympics.
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June 25th, 2012 at 6:42:20 AM permalink
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I was surprised Softball got dropped. But then, I like playing softball.

I look forward to the addition of Rugby 7's in 2016, and maybe one day 20-20 cricket. I was surprised 7's isn't a demo sport in the London Olympics.


I think the main reason they dropped softball was, the host countries were complaining that the stadium was too small to use it for anything else after the Olympics ended.

There's a similar problem with cricket; you need a rather large stadium, and what do you do with it after the Olympics? Maybe you can play it in an athletics (track) stadium and have a special rule that boundaries on each side are only worth half their normal value, but still, it seems that it would have too much of an effect on the game's strategy.
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June 25th, 2012 at 7:33:07 AM permalink
I would have quoted Archie, but I have already had a 3 day suspension LOL

And I am a true believer in Roller Derby and do not believe those nasty rumors about the games being fixed.

It is the competitive nature of the sport that allowed every match to be decided in the last 30 seconds !
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June 25th, 2012 at 9:22:14 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

It's not what A. Bunker said about the Olympics - it's what he called England! Google it as the political correctness of the 21st Century will not allow me to go unscathed if I quote it



No bum that can’t speak poifect English oughta stay in this country - oughta be de-exported the hell outta here! - Archie B.

If you want to make reference to a quote and you really think it's controversial, put it in a spoiler. I don't remember the show as well as you do.
But I can't believe anything in a 40 year old TV show can be that controversial.

I thought "All in the Family" was based on a British TV show.
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June 25th, 2012 at 9:25:07 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

I think the main reason they dropped softball was, the host countries were complaining that the stadium was too small to use it for anything else after the Olympics ended.



That makes sense. Also shows they must be over engineering the stadiums for the event.

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There's a similar problem with cricket; you need a rather large stadium, and what do you do with it after the Olympics? Maybe you can play it in an athletics (track) stadium and have a special rule that boundaries on each side are only worth half their normal value, but still, it seems that it would have too much of an effect on the game's strategy.



It'd be huge and make the game all about power hitting... 20/20 cricket is heavily biased that way already. But again, yeah, I didn't think about it, but making a stadium would be hard to re-use in a non-cricket playing country.

The answer in both cases would not to make permanent grounds... no reason why the Olympic grounds have to be so fancy.
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June 25th, 2012 at 9:25:40 AM permalink
Archie Bunker called England a "homosexual slur" country.
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June 25th, 2012 at 9:32:15 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

But I can't believe anything in a 40 year old TV show can be that controversial.



As Victor Hugo told his publisher concerning royalties: "?"

In any case, the host city doesn't determine what sports will be played. The IOC decides such things.
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June 25th, 2012 at 9:41:43 AM permalink
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But I can't believe anything in a 40 year old TV show can be that controversial.


But at the time Archie was viewed as a racist. I lived in Baltimore at the time, and Washington DC affiliate station refused to air the show. Once Norman Lear's show started to eliminate prejudice in a small way, then some Southern stations were up in arms about it.
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June 25th, 2012 at 9:43:45 AM permalink
Archie Bunker's own ethnicity is never explicitly stated, other than the fact that he is a WASP. (Archie's character voice was created by a mix of accents Carroll O'Connor heard while studying acting in New York City. Although an Anglo-Saxon ancestry might suggest he is of English origin, Archie mocks the British and refers to England as a "fag country," because of their English accents. He also refers to Germans as "Krauts", the Irish as "Micks", the Japanese as "Japs", the Italians as "Dagos", the Chinese as "Chinks", Polish persons as "Polacks" and Hispanics or Latinos as "Spics." He often uses the word "colored" in reference to African-Americans.
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June 25th, 2012 at 10:57:43 AM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

Archie Bunker called England a "homosexual slur" country.



I actually saw a TV show that was only made a few months ago that had a character that the female lead thinks is gay. When he makes a pass at her, she says, "I always thought you were ...", to which he finishes the sentence "... British".


In general I have always thought that UK was about a decade or two ahead of the USA in gay tolerance. Case in point is "Victim" (a 1961 film) which is notable in film history for being the first English language film to use the word "homosexual". On its release in the United Kingdom it proved highly controversial and was initially banned in the United States. At the same time, the big homosexuality movie in the USA was "Children's Hour".
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June 25th, 2012 at 11:33:45 AM permalink
Quote:

I thought "All in the Family" was based on a British TV show.



It is, and the lead character was a bus driver. Sort of a roundabout "The Honeymooners" reinvented there, and again reinvented here.

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Quote: pacomartin
But I can't believe anything in a 40 year old TV show can be that controversial.



Mild compared to a movie like Blazing Saddles... try that remake.
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June 25th, 2012 at 2:12:26 PM permalink
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Mild compared to a movie like Blazing Saddles... try that remake.


Now that's a funny movie! Like most of Mel Brooks's stuff, it was designed to offend everyone almost equally.

Of course you can't watch it on broadcast TV and get anything out of it, and I'm not sure they leave enough in on cable to make it really funny.
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June 25th, 2012 at 2:15:02 PM permalink
Cable left out the sounds effects after the cowboys ate beans. Figure that out !
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June 25th, 2012 at 3:10:24 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Cable left out the sounds effects after the cowboys ate beans. Figure that out !


That's Criminal!!!
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June 25th, 2012 at 4:46:51 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Guess which 2 sports were dropped for the 2012 Olympics.

Give you a clue, synchronized swimming was not one of them.


No, Field Hockey was NOT dropped !



I saw a few branches on this thread about what the
Olympics SHOULD have.

How about Women's Lingerie Football ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingerie_football

I thought I had seen an article where our local
team (I didn't know we had one until I saw the
article) players were not even paid. Hmmmmm.

And no, I don't know if this particular post
improves the overall quality of the forum !
But I've been AWOL for a few weeks, so.....
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June 25th, 2012 at 4:49:51 PM permalink
I , for one, found your post most entertaining. WELCOME BACK
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July 17th, 2012 at 9:43:52 AM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Archie Bunker's own ethnicity is never explicitly stated, other than the fact that he is a WASP. (Archie's character voice was created by a mix of accents Carroll O'Connor heard while studying acting in New York City.



Carrol O'Connor was Irish, which would have been a natural for his character. But Archie Bunker does call the Irish "Micks" in the show. I assume that the writers felt they were better off if Archie Bunker insulted every single ethnicity he could think of.

Sally Struthers was partially Norwegian. When I visited Sweden, they tell ethnic Norwegian jokes, which seems surreal to me.

I don't know what ethnicity Jean Stapleton was, but she was a brilliant actress. I saw her live in Romeo and Juliet, The Shakespeare Company, Washington, DC, 1994.
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July 17th, 2012 at 9:50:54 AM permalink
Carrol O'Connor was also Catholic...
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July 17th, 2012 at 2:15:07 PM permalink
Quote: 98Clubs

Mild compared to a movie like Blazing Saddles... try that remake.





Mel Brooks argued that he doesn’t think the word should ever be used unless “absolutely correctly to show racial prejudice. And we dIdn’t show it from good people, but from bad people who didn’t know any better.” In 1974, they got no complaints from a black person about the n-word. They did get more complaints from people about punching the horse.
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July 17th, 2012 at 3:46:34 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

.... When I visited Sweden, they tell ethnic Norwegian jokes, which seems surreal to me.


That may go on most everywhere, including Scandinavia, so long as the political-correctness police are not very active.

When I was in college in the 1960s, there was a visiting student from Finland who was a friend on campus for one year. I don't think he ever had anything nice to say about the people from Sweden. He said that in Finland the word "Swede" was their derogatory slang term for a homosexual. I asked him how they distinguished that usage from referring to someone from Sweden. He replied that there was no need to make a distinction. Another time I asked him why he was so negative about the people from Sweden. He though and then said that it was probably because they had so much money. I really liked this guy, but he made no effort at all to hide his bias against that one particular group.
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July 17th, 2012 at 5:13:57 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

I really liked this guy, but he made no effort at all to hide his bias against that one particular group.



The idea of one tiny group of Nordic people having ethnic issues with another tiny group of Nordic people seems hysterical. Kind of reminds you have the Star Trek episode where the people who are white on the right side hate the people who are white on the left side.


The one thing I remember about a Swedish party was the speeches. People get snockered in Sweden and they give speeches. It's like the Japanese singing Karaoke. One guy was drunk out of his mind and he kept making Goth jokes. Gotland is an island with about 60K people in the middle of the Baltic sea. Apparently Goth jokes in Sweden are equivalent to West Virginia jokes in the USA. Since I had no idea what they were saying I just kept drinking. Finally I made friends with a pretty young Secretary named Cherstain who was also drunk which seemed to make me look better.
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