Would a free online casino draw you to a land based casino?
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June 20th, 2012 at 7:13:37 AM
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There is a push by some of the major slot manufacturers to sign casinos up to have a virtual online casino. I'm in Michigan and I don't see legalized online gaming coming here very soon. There is a substantial cost in both startup and ongoing fees. As sold the idea is to build a base of online customers that you can expose to your bricks and mortar casino and then potentially have a "pay to play" virtual casino where customers would pay for the privilege of additional content. I am quite skeptical of the value. What's your opinion?
June 20th, 2012 at 7:26:47 AM
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June 20th, 2012 at 7:34:37 AM
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I would play online if I could win/earn free play or other comps at the land-based casino. And I'd think you might offer that if the comp rate were lower than the sum of the website fees plus comp costs minus ad revenue minus expected earnings from player land-based casino visits.
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June 20th, 2012 at 7:40:25 AM
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Quote: rdw4potusI would play online if I could win/earn free play or other comps at the land-based casino.
There's a thought.
There are other things a real casino can do with an online, for fun version:
Offer lessons for table games
Promote games
Advertise promotions
Trial new games
One area where most casino websites fall far short, IMO, is in cataloguing their table games. They offer a list of games,a dn that's supposed to be enough. It's not. I'd like to know what side bets are available, what the limits are (even if they fluctuate, like say "Min $3/$5/$10 depending on various factors"), and most of all I'd love a map of the table games layout. I suppose these change in time, so it would be hard or impossible to keep updated, but it would be so useful for larger casinos with multiple pits.
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June 20th, 2012 at 8:19:14 AM
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Not really. A free online casino, unless it's superbly coded and designed, wouldn't do much to help bring me to a brick and mortar one.
On the other hand, a money play online casino would help bring me to both. I would jump at the ability to arrive at the B&M building and grab my online balance in clay or cash. Or ignore cashing out my machine tickets (if I played slots) and use them at home. Use my online comp points to get a free room, or trade live play comps for a good freeroll.
Plus the extra amount of trust that a brick and mortar casino brings to its online department.
Paid website access will never work, not with so many online casinos where all areas are open to all members. Online casino's revenue has to come from game edge and poker rake.
And live video online gaming could be better for it, too - instead of a special recording room in Caymans, one could bet on the dice being thrown and roulette spins right in the casino with live players. A lot of players don't trust online live casinos, but when they can come to the same wheel in person (or indeed have played there before), it's different. Requires single zero wheels though as is the norm online.
Brand loaylty should help keep the audience playing at the same place live and online as well.
But to work that way it needs to have money play available, once you start playing for money, you want to play for money, and with at least player account level or deeper integration.
Of course there are all the legal challenges. I wonder if cage-only deposit/withdrawal (so you only manage your account remotely and don't send any money across state lines) could have things easier, or if that's thoroughly blocked as well.
On the other hand, a money play online casino would help bring me to both. I would jump at the ability to arrive at the B&M building and grab my online balance in clay or cash. Or ignore cashing out my machine tickets (if I played slots) and use them at home. Use my online comp points to get a free room, or trade live play comps for a good freeroll.
Plus the extra amount of trust that a brick and mortar casino brings to its online department.
Paid website access will never work, not with so many online casinos where all areas are open to all members. Online casino's revenue has to come from game edge and poker rake.
And live video online gaming could be better for it, too - instead of a special recording room in Caymans, one could bet on the dice being thrown and roulette spins right in the casino with live players. A lot of players don't trust online live casinos, but when they can come to the same wheel in person (or indeed have played there before), it's different. Requires single zero wheels though as is the norm online.
Brand loaylty should help keep the audience playing at the same place live and online as well.
But to work that way it needs to have money play available, once you start playing for money, you want to play for money, and with at least player account level or deeper integration.
Of course there are all the legal challenges. I wonder if cage-only deposit/withdrawal (so you only manage your account remotely and don't send any money across state lines) could have things easier, or if that's thoroughly blocked as well.
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June 20th, 2012 at 8:31:04 AM
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I already do - Caesar's Palace has an online casino, and supposedly I can earn TR points.
So far, it's just slots, roulette, and blackjack; I mainly use it to work on my blackjack strategy. They're supposed to be adding VP "real soon now"; I'll probably transfer from my existing "usual" VP site when that happens.
Perhaps another option needs to be added to the poll: "I would play, but would never pay real money for chips/credits."
So far, it's just slots, roulette, and blackjack; I mainly use it to work on my blackjack strategy. They're supposed to be adding VP "real soon now"; I'll probably transfer from my existing "usual" VP site when that happens.
Perhaps another option needs to be added to the poll: "I would play, but would never pay real money for chips/credits."
June 21st, 2012 at 9:19:11 AM
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It does raise an intriguing possibility. Suppose by going to the land based casino you could earn free credits for the online casino. This hypothetical online casino would have a limited number of games with no house advantage (i.e. payouts in craps would be adjusted to zero out house advantage, blackjack would be altered so that basic strategy zeros out house advantage, but bets controlled so that the player can't count). No money would change hands, but the free credits could be exchanged at the next physical visit for real cash.
Would this arrangement get around the transfer of money over state lines? I think it could. But it would build loyalty in the player to return to the brick and mortar casino, where normal rules of play exist.
Would this arrangement get around the transfer of money over state lines? I think it could. But it would build loyalty in the player to return to the brick and mortar casino, where normal rules of play exist.
