How many of you (us) are Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual or Transgendered?
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71 members have voted
Quote: mkl654321Don't bother trying to explain that to Jerry. Topics like paleontology and places like Olduvai Gorge are a tad too esoteric. But you're quite correct.
I thought it was common kowledge.
BTW I got you unblocked.
Quote: AZDuffmanSample size far too small to draw a conclusion. The general population probably tends to be 1-2% with another 3-4% who are "confused" because popular culture has tried to make it seem normal. And some of that 3-4% will try it out because it is better than being alone in their mind.
The sample size may be too small to infer the prescence of of some unkown factor in casino chips or the air in Vegas. But I think it's representative of people who read this board frequently and perhaps those who post often. I lurk in other places, where I never or hardly ever post but vote in polls often.
So there :P
Of course, GLBT covers a lot of ground, particularly the T part. I've known people, usually men, with a clothes fetish describe themselves as transgendered. Such factors can broaden the pool to a pond.
BTW "it" may not be normal. So what?
Quote: Wavy70So it's more or less the same banter that occurs on just about every newscast? When Geoff Fox on WTHN mentions his wife is he flaunting his heterosexuality?
Watch GoodDay NY the weather guy there seems to need to be in a muscle tee with his arms oiled.
Out of curiosity were you offended that he made inappropriate comments or that he made them about another male?
There is a reason why I began my original post with "Everyone please excuse my lack of knowledge on this subject." I didn't grow up around gays and don't really know much about them. In order to gain some insight, I asked what I considered to be some legitimate questions. Some seem to be offended by them especially when I asked why some gays feel the need to flaunt their behavior. It was pointed out that straight people flaunt themselves as well. Sure they do but this thread is about gays. That's why I didn't ask about straight people or why some authority figures abuse their power or why some athletes and movie stars keep getting arrested. I'd still like to know why some gays flaunt their behavior.
You asked me for examples, I provided them and you dismissed them as the same banter that occurs on just about every newscast. I don't think saying "I don't swing that way" to the entire world from the news desk is banter of any kind. I've never heard Geoff Fox or any other person make lewd, crude and derogatory remarks about another human being. I think this guy gives a black eye to the gay community and I believe that most people gay or straight would agree. Perhaps we should make it a poll. I have no animosity or ill will towards anyone's beliefs or life styles.
No, I was not offended by any inappropriate comments and I was not offended that he made them about another male. Were you offended by my posts, Wavy?
God bless the numbers!
Now what I'd like to know is who are the other 4 gay people? I mean, does it really matter if you identify your handles, you're already afraid of everyone by using anonymous names. Then I'd like to know how many are men, and how many of them speak with a lisp.
Quote: JerryLoganNow what I'd like to know is who are the other 4 gay people? I mean, does it really matter if you identify your handles, you're already afraid of everyone by using anonymous names. Then I'd like to know how many are men, and how many of them speak with a lisp.
Wait, your gaydar doesn't work over the Internet? I think you should get it returned, man.
Your continuing insinuations about us who refrain from using our real names as being cowardly is hilarious, by the way.
In the short time since you posted this, there were three more GLBT votes, one more non-GLBT, and one more unsure.Quote: JerryLoganLet's summarize this and be done with it. We got 43 voters. 1 wise guy said he wasn't sure, 37 are normal people, and 5 admit to being gay.
Good luck trying to figure out who voted for what.
Not that it will help figure it out, you left out a rather significant detail: Transgenered? Which way did you switch?Quote: bjgodI am trans-gender so I'm gay and lesbian... Wait I think... I dont like guys so Im not gay but I like girls so Im lesbian so Ultimately I am gay right.... Man am I confused this question has brought more questions bargained for...
Of course, based upon your handle, we can make a semi-educated guess. Or can we?....
Quote: DJTeddyBearNot that it will help figure it out, you left out a rather significant detail: Transgenered? Which way did you switch?
Might as well.
I'm transgendered, too. In fact, Nareed is a woman's name (I made it up, yes, but for a female character). I was going to use a different nick, D'kian, which is a male name, but the board didn't like the apostrophe. In these kinds of boards I always use only those two names.
The rest is quite complicated and would be better adressed on a separate thread. I'll just say my sexual preferences confuse me no end.
Quote: rdw4potusAfrican Americans are Americans who are from Africa. Some of those people are white (South Africans, Zimbabwans, Egyptians, etc.). Some people who are black identify as Caribbean, Panamanian, Fijian, Samoaan, etc. Refering to all people who are black as "african american" incorrectly excludes white africans and incorrectly includes black people who do not identify as african. Further, saying "he's the black guy" is like saying "she's the bigger gal" or "they're bald." It gives the proper and obvious identifying characteristic without imposing an unknown and unnecessary cultural identification.
What i find halarious is when some news anchor by either their own PC talk or reading the teleprompter and call a black african "african-american." It happened one station a balck woman won Miss South Africa and the station said she was the "first african american to win that title." There was a flood of calls to correct it.
Quote: ElectricDreamsYour continuing insinuations about us who refrain from using our real names as being cowardly is hilarious, by the way.
Yeah, I wonder how he feels about "Rob Singer" not being a real name either (it's a parody of "Bob Dancer").
Quote: MathExtremistYeah, I wonder how he feels about "Rob Singer" not being a real name either (it's a parody of "Bob Dancer").
You need to study things more before you write. RS has had a website for 10 years at least, and he's always had his real name listed there as well as disclosing it in his longtime videos and on many of the other forums.
Quote: JerryLoganYou need to study things more before you write. RS has had a website for 10 years at least, and he's always had his real name listed there as well as disclosing it in his longtime videos and on many of the other forums.
Is the Wizard wrong?
Quote: Wizard's interview w/ SingerHe also had a good sense of humor. His pseudo-name, Rob Singer, was chosen as a parody of the name of his main nemesis, Bob Dancer. If he ever writes to me again with more evidence of his claims, I would be happy to entertain them.
https://wizardofodds.com/news/Chat-wih-Rob-Singer.html
You need to study things more before you write. RS has had a website for 10 years at least, and he's always had his real name listed there as well as disclosing it in his longtime videos and on many of the other forums.
Is the Wizard wrong?
Quote: Wizard's interview w/ Singer
He also had a good sense of humor. His pseudo-name, Rob Singer, was chosen as a parody of the name of his main nemesis, Bob Dancer. If he ever writes to me again with more evidence of his claims, I would be happy to entertain them.
https://wizardofodds.com/news/Chat-wih-Rob-Singer.html
1. The Wizard is not wrong.
2. I didn't know that's how Singer chose his pen name. Pretty slick if you ask me.
Other than that, i don't see how this exonerates you from being afraid to do whatever you can in order to get the info from RS.
Quote: MathExtremistIs the Wizard wrong?
https://wizardofodds.com/news/Chat-wih-Rob-Singer.html
I think Jerry's point is that there are ways to find Rob's real name. The pseudonym isn't meant to protect Rob's identity so much as it's meant to mock Mr. Dancer. In some cases, it's a little different with online screennames - annonymity really is the desired effect.
Quote: rdw4potusAlso, Jerry: you have my real name and mailing address. You owe me $4...
Just be patient. He'll soon make a million with the Jerry Springer method and he will be making so much cash he'll probably need to burn it so it doesn't fill up his house. So I'm sure you'll get the $4 out of sheer desperation to get rid of money.
Quote: bjgodThe dont come from africa they come from Sumaria. Every culture and most modern religions can trace Homo sapian back to sumaria. Even those first to people in the bible the suamrians were worshiping a couple of people named adamu and eveo as the first of their species thousands and thousands of years before the bible was even a sparkle in anybodys eyes!
And then came Wall-E
Quote: TheNightflyAnd then came Wall-E
Thats right I take in cards and shit out money!
Quote: mkl654321It is...er....INTERESTING that Singer started claiming to have won $985,000 at just about the exact same time that Dancer published his book, "Million Dollar Video Poker". I'm surprised Singer didn't claim to have won $1,000,005 just to say he had won more than Dancer. But then, math was never Singer's strong point.
Wrong again, are you ever right?
Ever since RS has had his website up when he began as a professional player he's kept a running total of his wins and losses. That would be for about 10 years. That would make you, again, a liar.
I am a straight male, and voted in the poll accordingly.
Quote: benbakdoffEveryone please excuse my lack of knowledge on this subject. Assuming everyone on this board is at least 21 years old, how could someone answer the poll with "I'm not sure?" When will they be sure? How much trial and error do they need?
For that group, there should also be boxes for "None of the above" and "All of the above."
Quote: SanchoPanzaFor that group, there should also be boxes for "None of the above" and "All of the above."
I should make a detailed poll for the 12 positive/unsure respondents. Than you'd see things like "all of the above." But in this poll there's no room for it, as you can't be both GLBT and not-GLBT.
Quote: SanchoPanzaFor that group, there should also be boxes for "None of the above" and "All of the above."
The folks claiming we need more than two genders have come up with 6 genders IIRC.
Quote: JerryLoganWrong again, are you ever right?
Ever since RS has had his website up when he began as a professional player he's kept a running total of his wins and losses. That would be for about 10 years. That would make you, again, a liar.
Oh for crying out loud....
If something is factually wrong, then correct it (specifically) and the record straight.
From your post, I don't see where you did that.
That would make you, again sir, a mamby-pamby poster.
ps: Happy Holidays.
Quote: JohnnyQOh for crying out loud....
If something is factually wrong, then correct it (specifically) and the record straight.
From your post, I don't see where you did that.
That would make you, again sir, a mamby-pamby poster.
ps: Happy Holidays.
OK. In June 2005 when RS put out that monster challenge to the LVA people, his winnings at the time were only $640,000. That is per the Gambling Today article that I've already posted from RS. That was also about the time that Million Dollar Winnings book from Bob Dancer was released. I've read it. In other words, exactly what I referred to in my first post. So, by deduction, that alone, even if you did not look at Mr. Singer's results at all until 2009, is proof that what mkl6543210 said was an out-and-out lie.
Quote: JerryLoganOK. In June 2005 when RS put out that monster challenge to the LVA people, his winnings at the time were only $640,000. That is per the Gambling Today article that I've already posted from RS. That was also about the time that Million Dollar Winnings book from Bob Dancer was released. I've read it. In other words, exactly what I referred to in my first post. So, by deduction, that alone, even if you did not look at Mr. Singer's results at all until 2009, is proof that what mkl6543210 said was an out-and-out lie.
May I ask why this is in the GBLT thread and has not split off into a seperate thread?
Quote: CroupierMay I ask why this is in the GBLT thread and has not split off into a seperate thread?
Well, I'd tell you. but I've made it my purpose not to flame other posters.
How about a GLBT section? The poll numbers are quite telling.
Quote: NareedHow about a GLBT section?
What on earth for?
Quote: JohnnyQOh for crying out loud....
If something is factually wrong, then correct it (specifically) and the record straight.
From your post, I don't see where you did that.
That would make you, again sir, a mamby-pamby poster.
ps: Happy Holidays.
Jerry is just spewing at me because I called his god "either a fraud or an idiot". The fact is, Singer has made different and overlapping claims about how much he's won, on his website, in his blogs, in the excrement he writes for rags such as "Gaming Today", and in his laughably idiotic book, "The Undeniable Truth Blah Blah Blah". In any case, it's all hooey--there's no possible way he could have won even a fraction of the amount he claims, not using his stated methods.
And if Jerry calls me a liar, then I'm pleased, because that serves as validation that I'm telling the truth.
Happy holidays to you as well.
Quote: blackjackgoldenJust imagine what type of attention it would get 50 years ago...
You got a point!
Quote: CalderWhat on earth for?
Why on Earth not?
Watch out for a new poll.
Quote: NareedThe numbers still intrigue me. I'm bumping up the poll to see if they change some more. But right now we have 14 out of 60, which is too close to 25%. Or maybe 11 out of 60, which is still way higher than what I thought it would be.
Watch out for a new poll.
I wouldn't read anything into it. Unscientiffic polls can skew anything. In society I would put the real number at 1-2%. No way to tell if there are "joke" postings or stuffing the ballot box.
Quote: AZDuffmanI wouldn't read anything into it. Unscientiffic polls can skew anything. In society I would put the real number at 1-2%. No way to tell if there are "joke" postings or stuffing the ballot box.
Oh, I draw no inferences on society. Even so, 2% of 6 or 7 billion is a lot of people.
As to the board, you're also right. Ergo my second poll on the subject.
We may have an unusually high concentration of GLBT people here, though. We could find out by doing a more rigorous poll, say by asking each poster to send me a PM saying how they voted. I'm thinking about it. Maybe when the heavy work load period at the office passes, as right now I can't give the matter too much attention.
Quote: DeMangoAre there more "sinners" amongst the gambling crowd? Looks that way according to the poll. However I'll bet that when you distance the AP crowd away from the gambling crowd, their numbers (AP'ers) will return to "normal". Not sure these days what normal is being how this lifestyle is a choice, but Kinsey had it at 3%, I believe.
The AP lifestyle is a choice? I'd say.
However, I don't know how an intelligent person can argue that all people are born heterosexual, and choose to be homosexual. Why would anyone choose a harder lifestyle?
Of course the AP lifestyle is harder too, and people choose that... Oh man, I totally just confused myself.
Quote: FinsRuleThe AP lifestyle is a choice? I'd say.
However, I don't know how an intelligent person can argue that all people are born heterosexual, and choose to be homosexual. Why would anyone choose a harder lifestyle?
Of course the AP lifestyle is harder too, and people choose that... Oh man, I totally just confused myself.
You would need to ask someoe who chooses the homosexual lifestyle why they chose it. And other than someone forced into it in prison, it is at the least a choice of behavoir-people are responsible for their actions.
Quote: NareedWhy on Earth not?
I'm wondering why a board devoted to gambling needs such a distinction. Do lesbians gamble differently than straights? There's plenty of room in the Off Topic sections for whatever people want to kick around. Does the Wizard need separate sections for blacks, hispanics, asians, Jews, Catholics, and Muslims?
I see the point of these boards as inviting everyone with a common interest (gambling) to one place to exchange thoughts and ideas. Seems odd to me to go out of the way to subdivide people by distinctions that are irrelevant to the subject of the board.
Quote: AZDuffmanYou would need to ask someoe who chooses the homosexual lifestyle why they chose it. And other than someone forced into it in prison, it is at the least a choice of behavoir-people are responsible for their actions.
What would you say about people who are attracted to people of the same gender and do not act on it? Are they still choosing to live a (somewhat half-assed) "gay lifestyle?" Or are they combating the inclinations that they were born with?
Quote: rdw4potusWhat would you say about people who are attracted to people of the same gender and do not act on it? Are they still choosing to live a (somewhat half-assed) "gay lifestyle?" Or are they combating the inclinations that they were born with?
If they are only having sexual relations with people of the oppisite sex then they are straight. It is about behavior, not some biology no one has proven yet.
Quote: CalderI'm wondering why a board devoted to gambling needs such a distinction. Do lesbians gamble differently than straights? There's plenty of room in the Off Topic sections for whatever people want to kick around. Does the Wizard need separate sections for blacks, hispanics, asians, Jews, Catholics, and Muslims?
Well put.
Quote: odiousgambitI think there is a certain new phenomenon of gay fascination that sort of is spreading around, and someone like that can cash in. The show Tosh.O is doing that for sure. Nothing new under the sun, though, we went through Richard Simmons years ago too.
As for me, there seems to be a dearth of information on the subject of homosexuality from the perspectives that interest me. Perhaps a new thread on that later.
It's more a matter of some sort of "oral/anal fixation", perhaps not that different from the "reason" many self-styled supposedly-learned internet-posters are compelled to write 1,000's of wordy posts about a myriad of currently-unresolved matters. (Not exactly the game-theory motto of, "Bring it to a toss-up when playing a much-better opponent.")
Being in any way "gay" is being abnormal, whether physical and/or pyschological in its manifestation. We don't see eg, half-dressed diabetics following in noisy parades decrying their own unfair treatment... because they at least now have the option of reasonable treatments.
The mind compensates for what the body lacks; and versa. We're all very good at "accepting what we can't change", but just as often in all the wrong ways.
While there may be a temptation to add "...yet" to what I'm about to say, I'll say it anyway:Quote: CalderSeems odd to me to go out of the way to subdivide people by distinctions that are irrelevant to the subject of the board.
Members are being asked a question, but nobody is being asked to identify their choice.
