Blonde4ever
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December 24th, 2014 at 5:29:06 PM permalink
I have always supposed that it would be pretty easy to get comps from the D, but I had no idea HOW EASY!

On Oct 31, 2014 I played $1 a spin on a slot machine from 2 pm till 6 pm....got a handpay and came out way ahead.

I just got a flyer in the mail today from them offering...

8 free nights (4 in Feb 4 in March)
$150 in freeplay ($75 each month)
$100 in free food ( $50 each month)
2 free show tix to F. Scinta
2 $50 match plays
2 $ 25 match plays
(And I won't even use those last two)

(If only i were going in Feb or March...)
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Avincow
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December 24th, 2014 at 6:29:30 PM permalink
Quote: Blonde4ever

I have always supposed that it would be pretty easy to get comps from the D, but I had no idea HOW EASY!

On Oct 31, 2014 I played $1 a spin on a slot machine from 2 pm till 6 pm....got a handpay and came out way ahead.

I just got a flyer in the mail today from them offering...

8 free nights (4 in Feb 4 in March)
$150 in freeplay ($75 each month)
$100 in free food ( $50 each month)
2 free show tix to F. Scinta
2 $50 match plays
2 $ 25 match plays
(And I won't even use those last two)

(If only i were going in Feb or March...)



Why wouldn't you use the last two? The casino is giving you free money. I don't play slots, but if the casino gives me freeplay, I will play slots.

All you need to do is go to the Baccarat table and sit there for 4 hands. Place your bet with the match play on the Player's circle. Alternatively, you can go to the Roulette table and bet on black for 4 spins or go to a Craps table that is not too crowded and ask the dealer how to place a Pass Line bet. I personally would use the match play on Blackjack, but you probably don't want to go through the hassle of learning the strategy.
Blonde4ever
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December 24th, 2014 at 6:35:03 PM permalink
I might use them...but I would likely need coaching...lol
I think roulette would be easiest for a non table game player, right?
I just play VP and slots.
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Greasyjohn
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December 24th, 2014 at 6:43:12 PM permalink
You will like the Scinta show. It is very good.
Blonde4ever
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December 24th, 2014 at 6:45:49 PM permalink
Strangely enough I bought tickets from Ebay for his show for that October trip, but I got so busy gambling that I blew it off.
I shouldn't have done that!
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Mission146
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December 24th, 2014 at 6:59:48 PM permalink
Quote: Blonde4ever

I might use them...but I would likely need coaching...lol
I think roulette would be easiest for a non table game player, right?
I just play VP and slots.



No coaching, your best bet, if you are restricted to Even Money bets (I know my Match Plays at The D were) is to bet Player on Baccarat. Just put the Match Play and the same amount in chips on Player and the dealer will take care of the rest, there's nothing to know how to do.

In terms of EV, Pass or Don't Pass in Craps are also close, and require no knowledge.

EDIT: Downtown or Off-Strip casinos will also usually comp better than Strip casinos, as you probably already know. I'm not very surprised by these comps from The D, at 1000 spins/hour, you would have spun 4,000 times.

According to:

http://www.americancasinoguide.com/slot-machine-payback-statistics.html#Nevada

Downtown Las Vegas averages 95.2% return on dollar slots (and you might have been playing $1/spin at a lower denomination, you didn't specify) which would be an expected loss of $192 on $4,000 coin-in.

An expected loss of $48/hour looks REALLY good to Downtown casinos, good enough to try to compel you to stay there, certainly.
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Blonde4ever
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December 24th, 2014 at 7:02:37 PM permalink
Thanks for the advice!
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Mission146
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December 24th, 2014 at 7:04:51 PM permalink
Quote: Blonde4ever

Thanks for the advice!



You're welcome, and I Edited and added a bit into my post after you read it, btw.
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Blonde4ever
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December 24th, 2014 at 7:09:01 PM permalink
I was playing a Buffalo Deluxe...a penny machine...not even close to the max bet.
I was pretty pleased with the outcome when I got a $1500 handpay.
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Mission146
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December 24th, 2014 at 7:21:46 PM permalink
Quote: Blonde4ever

I was playing a Buffalo Deluxe...a penny machine...not even close to the max bet.
I was pretty pleased with the outcome when I got a $1500 handpay.



That's definitely a good result, and I am REALLY not surprised now if their PC system can differentiate between slot denominations. (I don't know if it can or not).

The Downtown LV penny machine return (same link as post above) returns an average of 88.83%, which means you would have had an expected loss of .1117 * 4000 = $446.80 (Again, assuming 1000 spins/hour) and the result is losing about $111.70/hour, per expectation.

I don't know if they would go as far to assume that your Free Play will be used on penny slots rather than VP, but if they did, let's break down the values, by offer, per month.

$75 Free Play = 75 * .8883 = $66.62

$75 Match Plays per Month (Craps-Pass Line): (.5071 * -75) + (.4929 * 150) = 35.9025

Four Nights @ Cost to the D: $20-$50 total

$50 in Food at Cost: $15-$25 total

Two Free show Tickets @ cost to The D: ???

We'll say they are giving you anywhere from about $150-$190 in terms of what this total offer costs them in cash and prizes. As you can see, if you play just four hours in addition to the free play and match play at a penny machine, spinning at 1000 games/hour, your expected loss is going to be more than double the sum of the value of your offers in terms of cost to The D.

Of course, there are the free drinks and taxes they have to pay on the revenue of your losses (theoretically, if you lose) and this and that, but overall, based on just that same four hours of action happening again, they'll come out ahead on it.

Although, if you take them up on the offers, I'm sure they anticipate you'll play more than that!
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