Mission146
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September 14th, 2012 at 7:49:37 AM permalink
I agree with FinsRule, whether or not it is actually an, "Honest mistake," if they allow the chips to be bet (House error) I don't think there is any way that they could ask you for $20 in chips that are currently used.
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September 14th, 2012 at 7:57:23 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

Make a $25 bet on craps with a new chip on top of the 4 old chips. Play until you lose. When they take the chips and look at them, I can't imagine they'd try to grab $20 of your new chips, it's an honest mistake.



I agree with this advice. When the Red Rock refused to honor some old chips I had, which were outdated by only months, I bet them in the sports book without problem.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
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September 14th, 2012 at 8:05:12 AM permalink
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September 14th, 2012 at 8:27:06 AM permalink
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Any place that refuses older chips and you have no alternative, use them as tip money later.



Your tip - a useless piece of clay. You figure out what to do with it. I like it!
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September 14th, 2012 at 8:36:30 AM permalink
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Any place that refuses older chips and you have no alternative, use them as tip money later.



That would seem to be taking it out on the wrong person. For example, if you passed it off on a waitress, and she was unable to cash the chip, I would view that as stealing her service.
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September 14th, 2012 at 8:39:27 AM permalink
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Mission146
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September 14th, 2012 at 8:49:09 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

That would seem to be taking it out on the wrong person. For example, if you passed it off on a waitress, and she was unable to cash the chip, I would view that as stealing her service.



I disagree with this assessment...slightly. While it is not something that I would do, the chip only has +EV for the waitress and no value to the player. The casino will either honor the chip for the waitress or it will not, so whatever the odds are (at least, whatever the tipper thinks the odds are) of the casino actually accepting the chip from the waitress, expressed as a decimal * the face value of the chip = the effective amount of the tip.

I think, "Stealing," is also a strong word because she must serve you whether or not she is tipped.

I reiterate that I would not do this, anyway. As I have stated on a recent thread, even when I am getting free drinks for my play somewhere, I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.
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September 14th, 2012 at 8:56:08 AM permalink
Please note that I used the example of a waitress, and tipping in restaurants is basically a service fee. To not tip a waitress would be stiffing her for a service provided. I don't argue as forcefully about tipping dealers. Generally speaking, you should, but let's try to leave it at that. We've been through this debate countless times already, and I doubt anybody's position ever changed on it as a result.
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September 14th, 2012 at 9:21:44 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Any place that refuses older chips and you have no alternative, use them as tip money later.

Perhaps a future radio guest will be Brother Chip who goes around town accepting all the gambling chips from churches and other businesses that often wind up with chips including out of date chips.

When a dealer calls out "Foreign Chips" it means from some other casino and its up to the box and floor personnel to make decisions on it. They were routinely accepted years ago before all the paperwork and currency regs, now its less likely to happen. Usually a casino will want ALL the chips that you have in ONE transaction rather than letting you serially wager them.
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September 14th, 2012 at 11:35:17 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

even when I am getting free drinks for my play somewhere, I always tip what the drink would have cost if I had to pay for it, so I'm not one to try to skirt tipping.


Whaaat?!?! So you tip $5 for a rum & coke???
Like my Pa' always said "If if weren't for your patronage, that cocktail waitress wouldn't HAVE a job."
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