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October 12th, 2020 at 3:16:22 PM permalink
Metal Detectors, Pat Downs, Open Container Bans & Baggage Checks Coming To Vegas Casinos Amid Crime Wave

The Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas using metal detectors, begins limiting entry
https://news3lv.com/news/local/the-cosmopolitan-of-las-vegas-installs-metal-detectors-limiting-entry

Wynn Las Vegas cracking down on weekend security
https://news3lv.com/news/local/wynn-las-vegas-cracking-down-on-weekend-security
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October 12th, 2020 at 3:18:04 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

Metal Detectors, Pat Downs, Open Container Bans & Baggage Checks Coming To Vegas Casinos Amid Crime Wave

The Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas using metal detectors, begins limiting entry
https://news3lv.com/news/local/the-cosmopolitan-of-las-vegas-installs-metal-detectors-limiting-entry

Wynn Las Vegas cracking down on weekend security
https://news3lv.com/news/local/wynn-las-vegas-cracking-down-on-weekend-security



That is fantastic news. I hope it is not temporary but permanent.
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October 12th, 2020 at 3:35:42 PM permalink
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That is fantastic news. I hope it is not temporary but permanent.



Do you like being harassed as if you are a criminal or do you just want to see Vegas fail?
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October 12th, 2020 at 3:54:55 PM permalink
Las Vegas police investigating overnight Strip shooting - video news
https://news3lv.com/news/local/las-vegas-police-investigating-overnight-strip-shooting
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October 12th, 2020 at 4:03:54 PM permalink
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Do you like being harassed as if you are a criminal or do you just want to see Vegas fail?



Bet you are against metal detectors and ID checks at airports
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October 12th, 2020 at 4:25:10 PM permalink
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Bet you are against metal detectors and ID checks at airports



No, aviation has had its problems so we have to deal with it. I still do not like going thru all the hassle and is why I would rather drive up to 300 miles or so.

As to casinos, if it feels like a police state I am way less likely to visit.
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October 12th, 2020 at 4:32:50 PM permalink
Bunch of ex-cop bouncers. Looks like a fascist place to me.
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October 12th, 2020 at 4:46:24 PM permalink
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Do you like being harassed as if you are a criminal or do you just want to see Vegas fail?



I am willing to inconvenience myself a little to see others held accountable.
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October 12th, 2020 at 4:51:46 PM permalink
Most stores need cops on duty to enforce mask rules. People are out of control in this country.
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October 12th, 2020 at 4:57:47 PM permalink
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I am willing to inconvenience myself a little to see others held accountable.



Those in power love that. It will not help you but makes their lives easier.
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October 12th, 2020 at 4:58:31 PM permalink
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Most stores need cops on duty to enforce mask rules. People are out of control in this country.



If that us what we need it is really the other way around.

Why not a "no mask" section same as smoking sections?
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October 12th, 2020 at 5:02:37 PM permalink
The words "lethal disease" come to mind. Who can stay open for that unless you don't mind killing your workforce? Maybe Game Stop doesn't mind.
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October 12th, 2020 at 5:02:49 PM permalink
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Those in power love that. It will not help you but makes their lives easier.



I don't do it to help me, I do it because I like seeing others get annoyed.
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October 12th, 2020 at 5:09:24 PM permalink
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The words "lethal disease" come to mind. Who can stay open for that unless you don't mind killing your workforce? Maybe Game Stop doesn't mind.



Killing your workforce?

Only 1 in 50 has had it at all.

99% of those that do get it survive.

Most of those that do not had several other conditions causing death.

Unless you are in a high risk group it is really not worth worrying about at the level people are worrying.

I remove my mask at any chance I get.
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October 12th, 2020 at 5:13:04 PM permalink
Again, I'm not authorized to put a warning on that post about COVID-19 misinformation.
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October 12th, 2020 at 6:00:30 PM permalink
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I remove my mask at any chance I get.



Well, fuck you then you selfish piece of shit.

I'll happily take a suspension to convey that.
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October 12th, 2020 at 6:08:19 PM permalink
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Killing your workforce?

Only 1 in 50 has had it at all.

99% of those that do get it survive.

Most of those that do not had several other conditions causing death.

Unless you are in a high risk group it is really not worth worrying about at the level people are worrying.

I remove my mask at any chance I get.



The 99% that survive are contagious and supposed to be quarantined.

It's better for the economy if everyone wears their masks.

It doesn't cost you any money ($2 for a decent mask).

Why don't you care about the lives of high risk people? If you wind up spreading it to high risk people your response will be "oh, well, you gotta die for me to be comfortable?"
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October 12th, 2020 at 6:14:53 PM permalink
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The 99% that survive are contagious and supposed to be quarantined.

It's better for the economy if everyone wears their masks.

It doesn't cost you any money ($2 for a decent mask).

Why don't you care about the lives of high risk people? If you wind up spreading it to high risk people your response will be "oh, well, you gotta die for me to be comfortable?"



Or as a nihilist like me would say, I don't care if you die or if I die.
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October 12th, 2020 at 6:57:38 PM permalink
Take one quick look at about 1/3rd of the US high risk population and itís clear they donít care about their own health or value their own lives.

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October 12th, 2020 at 7:01:51 PM permalink
Bismarck is about out of hospital beds.
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Bismarck is about out of hospital beds.



I don't think she has been used since 1945 when she sank off the coast of Iwo Jima.
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October 12th, 2020 at 8:20:38 PM permalink
"If there's no health insurance, nobody is sick."
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October 12th, 2020 at 10:52:49 PM permalink
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Take one quick look at about 1/3rd of the US high risk population and itís clear they donít care about their own health or value their own lives.



One can argue nearly all people who commit suicide don't value their own lives.

Regardless, the powers that be in this country protect those lives, even ones being purposefully thrown away.
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October 13th, 2020 at 12:48:58 AM permalink
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I don't think she has been used since 1945 when she sank off the coast of Iwo Jima.



Damn iceberg!
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October 13th, 2020 at 1:29:26 AM permalink
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Do you like being harassed as if you are a criminal or do you just want to see Vegas fail?



Keeping me safe is not harassment. It will not make Vegas fail. And I hope that they ask for and record IDs of everyone who enters.

Deal with it.
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October 13th, 2020 at 3:11:25 AM permalink
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Deal with it.


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October 13th, 2020 at 4:15:29 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

The 99% that survive are contagious and supposed to be quarantined.

It's better for the economy if everyone wears their masks.

It doesn't cost you any money ($2 for a decent mask).

Why don't you care about the lives of high risk people? If you wind up spreading it to high risk people your response will be "oh, well, you gotta die for me to be comfortable?"



If I would be in a high risk area like a hospital I would wear one with no problem. The grocery store is not a high risk area. Daily life is not a high risk area,

The masks are not doing anything other than making people feel safe. As to the economy it would be best for it if we just opened everything back up as we flattened the curve like we planned to months ago.
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October 13th, 2020 at 5:02:10 AM permalink
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If I would be in a high risk area like a hospital I would wear one with no problem. The grocery store is not a high risk area. Daily life is not a high risk area,

The masks are not doing anything other than making people feel safe. As to the economy it would be best for it if we just opened everything back up as we flattened the curve like we planned to months ago.



Where are you located that everything isn't open?

NYS still has some closures but already shopping malls and casinos are open.

And while NYS is being very strict, they also went from the highest per day death toll in the USA (1000 per day) to the lowest (one per day), so it's difficult to say the measures aren't working. (That includes mask wearing so again I don't understand your theory that it does nothing. The states that currently have the highest transmission rates are the ones with the most lax mask rules. That's a direct correlation you repeatedly ignore)
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October 13th, 2020 at 5:04:09 AM permalink
A concern for the increased security at Wynn/Encore etc will be that the same thing will happen as has happened with MGMís ďemergency response team officersĒ they added after the shooting. Replace emergency with slot vulture and it would be more indicative of their actual job description. MGMís officers had nothing to do and were instead used to harass APís or anyone theyíre remotely suspicious of, with Wynn/Encore being the way they are I have little doubt that will be the case here as well.
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October 13th, 2020 at 5:29:05 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Where are you located that everything isn't open?

NYS still has some closures but already shopping malls and casinos are open.

And while NYS is being very strict, they also went from the highest per day death toll in the USA (1000 per day) to the lowest (one per day), so it's difficult to say the measures aren't working. (That includes mask wearing so again I don't understand your theory that it does nothing. The states that currently have the highest transmission rates are the ones with the most lax mask rules. That's a direct correlation you repeatedly ignore)



I am in PA, still many restrictions. NY had a high death toll because your governor put sick people into nursing homes by force. He was lent a huge hospital boat for this purpose but ignored it. That is a huge part of the decrease.

Sorry, but I will always fail to see how making healthy people wear masks makes a difference. I can see how having people work from home does. Any office I have worked in is set up to spread any bug going around. Making me wear a mask to grocery shop not so much. Wearing the mask to get to my table but not once I sit at it not at all.
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October 13th, 2020 at 5:31:02 AM permalink
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Well, fuck you then you selfish piece of shit.

I'll happily take a suspension to convey that.



How nice.
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October 13th, 2020 at 5:47:51 AM permalink
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Quote: mcallister3200

Take one quick look at about 1/3rd of the US high risk population and itís clear they donít care about their own health or value their own lives.



One can argue nearly all people who commit suicide don't value their own lives.

Regardless, the powers that be in this country protect those lives, even ones being purposefully thrown away.



I have no idea what point youíre trying to make here comparing already dead people to somewhat alive people.

Iím all for masks and reasonable precautions the only point Iím making about protecting some of the at risk populations is that you canít really protect people who donít want to protect themselves, the you canít help people who wonít help themselves thing.
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October 13th, 2020 at 6:00:00 AM permalink
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NY had a high death toll because your governor put sick people into nursing homes by force.

Wrong. NY's nursing home COVID infection rate is 31st in the nation...well below the COVID containment juggernauts of Louisiana, Georgia, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, California...
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October 13th, 2020 at 6:05:19 AM permalink
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Wrong. NY's nursing home COVID infection rate is 31st in the nation...well below the COVID containment juggernauts of Louisiana, Georgia, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, California...
Nursing Home COVID Data



I am not interested in how it compares. All kinds of things are skewing these numbers. The county to the north of me, about 15 miles away, was a higher infection rate county almost entirely because of its number of nursing homes. All the counties surrounding had lower county numbers.

My point is the death rate went up because patients were forced into nursing homes instead of using the hospital ship that was loaned to the state. You cannot say with a straight face that putting sick people into nursing homes did not spike the death rate.
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October 13th, 2020 at 6:19:15 AM permalink
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Quote: UP84

Wrong. NY's nursing home COVID infection rate is 31st in the nation...well below the COVID containment juggernauts of Louisiana, Georgia, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, California...
Nursing Home COVID Data



I am not interested in how it compares. All kinds of things are skewing these numbers. The county to the north of me, about 15 miles away, was a higher infection rate county almost entirely because of its number of nursing homes. All the counties surrounding had lower county numbers.

My point is the death rate went up because patients were forced into nursing homes instead of using the hospital ship that was loaned to the state. You cannot say with a straight face that putting sick people into nursing homes did not spike the death rate.

Yes I can because the numbers show otherwise. Also, the the ship was initially forbidden by the DOD from taking any COVID cases. It was designed to handle the overflow of non-COVID related cases. It was only later allowed to take COVID cases, and by then the crisis has abated.
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October 13th, 2020 at 10:49:04 AM permalink
Quote: UP84

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: UP84

Wrong. NY's nursing home COVID infection rate is 31st in the nation...well below the COVID containment juggernauts of Louisiana, Georgia, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, California...
Nursing Home COVID Data



I am not interested in how it compares. All kinds of things are skewing these numbers. The county to the north of me, about 15 miles away, was a higher infection rate county almost entirely because of its number of nursing homes. All the counties surrounding had lower county numbers.

My point is the death rate went up because patients were forced into nursing homes instead of using the hospital ship that was loaned to the state. You cannot say with a straight face that putting sick people into nursing homes did not spike the death rate.

Yes I can because the numbers show otherwise. Also, the the ship was initially forbidden by the DOD from taking any COVID cases. It was designed to handle the overflow of non-COVID related cases. It was only later allowed to take COVID cases, and by then the crisis has abated.



Let me add to that once covid cases were accepted, that didn't over rule the nearest hospital rule for ambulances. There were so many ambulances called the city had to suspend requests to be taken to anything but the nearest hospital.

This meant the hospital ship really only served a very small slice of the city within it's ambulance range.

Although NYC is extremely small, it can take an hour or more to cross town. Not reasonable when other hospitals are within shorter range.

Finally the Cuomo nursing home forced death rate has been debunked by multiple sources.

https://khn.org/news/is-cuomo-directive-to-blame-for-nursing-home-covid-deaths-as-us-official-claims/
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October 13th, 2020 at 11:50:09 AM permalink
Diverting to original topic.

Well they arenít asking you to bend over yet to get in, so allís good.

You almost canít buy bubblegum* without a camera filming it. Passive security measures are here to stay. Might as well adapt to those.

More extensive measures might go away if the problems go away.



*maybe a bubblegum machine
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