Aussie
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November 28th, 2013 at 7:57:21 PM permalink
Will most likely be making a trip to Vegas for a bachelor party next year and tossing up which of these two properties to stay at. It will be a 4 night stay but will most likely only get to play seriously for two days before the non-gamblers arrive for the bachelor party. Couple of questions for those who know:

1. Which will give me the better comps (to be used to offset room cost) based on $100 average bet on Pai Gow Tiles for probably 4-6 hrs per day for 2 out of 4 days. No prior play at either property.
2. Which has the better pool for simply relaxing and why?
3. Will the $20 trick work at either place? Friday check in.

Thanks for any help.
Cheers
AxelWolf
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November 28th, 2013 at 8:10:07 PM permalink
Quote: Aussie

Will most likely be making a trip to Vegas for a bachelor party next year and tossing up which of these two properties to stay at. It will be a 4 night stay but will most likely only get to play seriously for two days before the non-gamblers arrive for the bachelor party. Couple of questions for those who know:

1. Which will give me the better comps (to be used to offset room cost) based on $100 average bet on Pai Gow Tiles for probably 4-6 hrs per day for 2 out of 4 days. No prior play at either property.
2. Which has the better pool for simply relaxing and why?
3. Will the $20 trick work at either place? Friday check in.

Thanks for any help.
Cheers

I don't think the $20 works. I think someone is trying to get their loved one who works at the front desk some extra cash, Just ask for an upgrade.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Tomspur
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November 28th, 2013 at 8:14:36 PM permalink
G'day mate :)

Well here are some answers but I would shop my thoughts around too. Not sure I'm too accurate.

1) CET proeprties have recently become extremely stingy on the comps. They have scaled back and many people have complained about the level of comps they have received in both LV and AC. I woudl be weary of any company who is $24 billion in debt and no international holdings from which to get some cash injection. MGM players club (Mlife) isn't too bad and at least you get all your benefits at any one of their properties. Also I feel like they have better properties overall than what CET has.

2) Pool I believe Caesars wins out of those two choices (Hope you are coming in the spring or after?). The pool at Caesars is fabulous for people watching and relaxing. There are some absolute BELTERS walking around so that can never be a bad thing. I find the mirage pool a little boring, just my opinion. I do however believe the Mirage has a top optional pool....not sure if Caesars has one.
If you are looking at a 3rd option there is always the crazy pool parties at MGM Grand or the uber sexy parties at Rehab @ HArd Rock, just sayin :)

3) It's worth a try but generally on weekends you will struggle as occupancy is high.

All the best and have a great trip!
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s2dbaker
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November 28th, 2013 at 8:40:26 PM permalink
Quote: Aussie

Thanks for any help.
Cheers

You're talking about two mega-casino companies, Caesars with their Total Rewards program and MGM with M-Life. Both programs suck for short term players. Any comps that you get on your first stay will be laughable. My advice is to pay the rack rate and don't sweat the comps. Comparing properties for the long term, Caesars is heading swiftly to "debt restructuring" and drastic changes will follow whereas MGM is at least close to turning a profit.

Both hotels offer really nice pool areas. (I think there's a topless area at Mirage. Caesars, I do not know if they have one)
Rack rates at Mirage and Caesars are comparable but Caesars can get a lot more expensive for the premium rooms
Caesars Entertainment is in the USA only but covers Atlantic City
MGM is in Macau but not Atlantic City

For the one trip, it's a toss-up. For establishing a relationship into the future, go for MGM/Mirage. Caesars' Total Rewards program blows chunks for table game players.
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Aussie
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November 29th, 2013 at 4:18:14 AM permalink
Establishing a relationship for the future doesn't concern me as I live on the other side of the world. Only concerned with any benefits I might be able to get on this occasion. Since my play will be the same regardless, any comps I can get is a significant factor in the choice. I stayed at Encore 3 years ago and was comped 1 night stay based on about 10hrs total of Pai Gow Tiles at an average of about $75 so if I could get something similar at one of these properties I will take my chances there.

Do any of these casinos have Pai Gow Tiles in a high limit room? If so what limit would it be at?
Isitingood
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November 30th, 2013 at 2:17:36 PM permalink
Quote: s2dbaker

You're talking about two mega-casino companies, Caesars with their Total Rewards program and MGM with M-Life. Both programs suck for short term players. Any comps that you get on your first stay will be laughable. My advice is to pay the rack rate and don't sweat the comps. Comparing properties for the long term, Caesars is heading swiftly to "debt restructuring" and drastic changes will follow whereas MGM is at least close to turning a profit.

Both hotels offer really nice pool areas. (I think there's a topless area at Mirage. Caesars, I do not know if they have one)
Rack rates at Mirage and Caesars are comparable but Caesars can get a lot more expensive for the premium rooms
Caesars Entertainment is in the USA only but covers Atlantic City
MGM is in Macau but not Atlantic City

For the one trip, it's a toss-up. For establishing a relationship into the future, go for MGM/Mirage. Caesars' Total Rewards program blows chunks for table game players.[/

Caesers Palace has a topless pool it's called the Venus Pool Club.

wroberson
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November 30th, 2013 at 2:30:02 PM permalink
Caesars pool is open in the winter.
You might feel the need to dress up.
Mirage is low key and casual dress flies.
I was given 2.70 in express comps for my 2-3 hours a the Mirage.
.07 cents for my hour at Caesars Rio.
For me I,m more comfortable when I can be myself.
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Isitingood
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November 30th, 2013 at 2:30:19 PM permalink
Mlife is crap! It takes 25k to hit pearl while it takes only 5K to hit Platinum at CET. You don't get any tier credits Sports Betting on Mlife and a lot of Pearl members are jumping ship because you can play Myvegas for free and get comped rooms.

Well here are some answers but I would shop my thoughts around too. Not sure I'm too accurate.

1) CET proeprties have recently become extremely stingy on the comps. They have scaled back and many people have complained about the level of comps they have received in both LV and AC. I woudl be weary of any company who is $24 billion in debt and no international holdings from which to get some cash injection. MGM players club (Mlife) isn't too bad and at least you get all your benefits at any one of their properties. Also I feel like they have better properties overall than what CET has.

2) Pool I believe Caesars wins out of those two choices (Hope you are coming in the spring or after?). The pool at Caesars is fabulous for people watching and relaxing. There are some absolute BELTERS walking around so that can never be a bad thing. I find the mirage pool a little boring, just my opinion. I do however believe the Mirage has a top optional pool....not sure if Caesars has one.
If you are looking at a 3rd option there is always the crazy pool parties at MGM Grand or the uber sexy parties at Rehab @ HArd Rock, just sayin :)

3) It's worth a try but generally on weekends you will struggle as occupancy is high.

All the best and have a great trip!

Isitingood
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November 30th, 2013 at 2:56:54 PM permalink
Quote: Aussie

Will most likely be making a trip to Vegas for a bachelor party next year and tossing up which of these two properties to stay at. It will be a 4 night stay but will most likely only get to play seriously for two days before the non-gamblers arrive for the bachelor party. Couple of questions for those who know:

1. Which will give me the better comps (to be used to offset room cost) based on $100 average bet on Pai Gow Tiles for probably 4-6 hrs per day for 2 out of 4 days. No prior play at either property.
2. Which has the better pool for simply relaxing and why?
3. Will the $20 trick work at either place? Friday check in.

Thanks for any help.
Cheers



Caesers Palace Garden of the Gods Pools is one of the most beautiful in Vegas. I get better comps at CET then MLife and the $20 trick does work at Caesers Palace depending on when you go. Fri it might not work because Caesers is packed on Fri and Sat. I have never tried the $20 trick at the Mirage.
scottndindy
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May 17th, 2014 at 6:50:17 PM permalink
Tiles at Caesars is 100 minimum. Mirage has a 25 minimum.

Caesars will not give you any love on your present stay for tiles at $100. My last trip at Caesars was mostly tiles and also baccarat. I averaged $475 per hand and I got a room in Augustus Tower taken care of and $500 in food. They also deducted all of my total rewards points. Mirage will be more inclined to take care of your room for your bet but remember that tiles only comps out to about 30 hands per hour. This means you see virtually nothing.

If you don't get a comp you are going to be stuck paying and Mirage is definitely cheaper than Caesars.

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